I have been trying to broaden my jazz library the last few months. I bought a double of Chet Baker but his singing slayed me.

So far I like Dave Brubecks Take Five and I really like Coltrane's A Love Supreme.

Anybody suggest what I can buy next from these two jazz cats(got thr lingo down pat)

Thanks to All

Al

For Coltrane, I'd recommend Lush Life, My Favorite Things, Soultrane, and Blue Trane. For Brubeck, as a next step I'd recommend The Dave Brubeck Quartet at Carnegie Hall.

Thanks Rich,I knew you'd be there for me


Alan

From Brubecks "Time Series",I really like "Time In"....

I would have liked to got my hands on this Coltrane collection -

http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7784

John Coltrane - The Heavyweight Champion: The Complete Atlantic Recordings

After you try My Favorite things I would suggest :The Complete Africa/Brass Sessions by "John Coltrane Quartet", Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane- At Carnegie Hall, and Crescent.

I went to Indigo and purchased Blue Train. Also picked up a dave Brubeck out of the cut-out bin..

Thanks a lot Guys

Alan

I love Coltrane when he does the Bop/Hard Bop stuff or mellower. Im not a Free Jazz guy and he can get a little too much for me when he goes that route, and often does.


Coltrane ~ Soultrane
Lush life
John Coltrane Quartet ~ Ballads
Coltrane/ Johnny Hartman

RC

I love Coltrane when he does the Bop/Hard Bop stuff or mellower. Im not a Free Jazz guy and he can get a little too much for me when he goes that route, and often does.


Coltrane ~ Soultrane
Lush life
John Coltrane Quartet ~ Ballads
Coltrane/ Johnny Hartman

RC
I agree completly withyou on Coltrane.Some of his stuff can be difficult to listen to....

Coltrane/Johnny Hartman is a must.

I would have liked to got my hands on this Coltrane collection -

http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7784

John Coltrane - The Heavyweight Champion: The Complete Atlantic Recordings

Five years ago they popped up quite often for around $100 on Ebay. I got mine for $120 with shipping. It is not 180 G. I think the second pressing is.

I agree completly withyou on Coltrane.Some of his stuff can be difficult to listen to....
How about "OM". A wall of noise.

How about "OM". A wall of noise.



What's "OM"...

"OM" is an Album by John Coltrain. There are a couple albums on Ebay. Pure noise. The CD is not cheap. A little over $20 on a Japan Import.

I love Coltrane when he does the Bop/Hard Bop stuff or mellower. Im not a Free Jazz guy and he can get a little too much for me when he goes that route, and often does.


Coltrane ~ Soultrane
Lush life
John Coltrane Quartet ~ Ballads
Coltrane/ Johnny Hartman

RC

Are you sure? There is all kinds of Free Jazz. Not just John Coltrane attacking his sax. I used to say the same thing until I got away from the Dolphy, Coltrane, Coleman material. Innovative from a musicians standpoint, but I don't care for that either. Check out more Mingus for starters. Not that you have not allready.

Coltrane/Giant Steps - a classic

Alan,

Give some of Brubeck's newer stuff a listen:

London Flat, London Sharp
Park Avenue South
The Crossing
So What's New?
Young Lions & Old Tigers
Late Night Brubeck/Nightshift: Live At The Blue Note (2 separate ceedees)

All recorded by Telarc and all quite good.

Some 70's material:

We're All Together Again (For The First Time)
All The Things We Are
Back Home

Some 80's material:

Tritonis
Paper Moon

Brubeck hasn't released a bad album yet as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers

PS For Coltrane.....the One Down..One Up: Live At The Half Note 2 disc set should grab you.

After what you said about Chet Baker, you are dead to me.

When first listening to Coltrane, I'd recommend focussing on his early work, especially those already mentioned such as Blue train, Soultrane, Lush Life. Check out the Allmusic Guide recommendations. Usually right on for jazz. Also recommend Coltrane/Hartman - perhaps the most romantic album of all time. As you get your feet under you, Coltrane-wise, you can expand into his more sonically complex albums such as Giant Steps, Love Supreme, etc. No doubt, the man could play, and was an artist of deep integrity and spirituality. His entire catalogue is definitely worth exploring. The world is a far better place as a result of John Coltrane.

Are you sure? There is all kinds of Free Jazz. Not just John Coltrane attacking his sax. I used to say the same thing until I got away from the Dolphy, Coltrane, Coleman material. Innovative from a musicians standpoint, but I don't care for that either. Check out more Mingus for starters. Not that you have not allready.

Saying that "Im not a Free Jazz guy" is a little bit of generalization. Free jazz covers a lot of ground for sure. It more Coltranes style when he is in in that Free Jazz mode that I dont care for.

There are many that I enjoy quite a bit.

RC

When first listening to Coltrane, I'd recommend focussing on his early work, especially those already mentioned such as Blue train, Soultrane, Lush Life. Check out the Allmusic Guide recommendations. Usually right on for jazz. Also recommend Coltrane/Hartman - perhaps the most romantic album of all time. As you get your feet under you, Coltrane-wise, you can expand into his more sonically complex albums such as Giant Steps, Love Supreme, etc. No doubt, the man could play, and was an artist of deep integrity and spirituality. His entire catalogue is definitely worth exploring. The world is a far better place as a result of John Coltrane.
I agree with you although I think Giant Steps is very accessable, that album takes bebop to it's deepest level. I also wouldn't dismiss his "Free Jazz" explorations out of hand. some of his performances such as One Down, One Up form New Thing At Newport; "Nature Boy" from The New wave in Jazz will give an insight into what direction he was going in the last year or so of his life.

Thanks for all the help guys.I ordered Coltrane\Hartman and Brubeck-Late Night Brubeck.

I once had a cd by Sonny Sharrock but i found it too "jangly" anybody like him

Thanks Again






Toz,sorry I said that about Chet,I meant Dusty Baker,yeah that's it

Good choices both Opt! I think you will be pleased.

RC

Thanks Dou!!

Lots of good recs, to which I will add:

The Gentle Side of John Coltrane (double album/compilation)
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane
The Miles Davis Quintet/The Legendary Prestige Quintent Sessions (This is a 4
CD box set, however I think the individual LPs are still available.)

I wouuld also suggest the Duke Ellington & John Coltrane, record as it compliments the Coltrane\Hartman you ordered. They were recorded at a time when Coltrane had some modifications done to his horn and felt that he could not play as he wished, what wonderful masterpieces by some great artists. It shows how beutifully Coltrane could play!

I once had a cd by Sonny Sharrock but i found it too "jangly" anybody like him
Saw Sonny Sharrock touring with Herbie Mann years ago. Thought the guy could really play. Came across one of his LPs titled Machine Gun so I thought I'd pick it up. Aptly titled - I don't think I listened to a full side.

I have Blue Train and Giant Steps and can recommend both.

Alan

I just rented Byrd from Netflix and watched it last night. Interesting bio of Coltrane directed by Clint Eastwood and starring Forest Whitaker. Not a very satisfying biography but some nice music.

Bird, Wasn't that about Charlie Parker?

RC

Duhhh! Don't know what I was thinking. I spent the weekend listening to a lot of Coltrane and then saw the movie.

I have read that Parker was a big influence on Coltrane. I missed the movie when it came out. Is it worth renting?

RC

Thanks for all the help guys.I ordered Coltrane\Hartman and Brubeck-Late Night BrubeckThe Coltrane/Hartman album is one of my favorite "late night" albums. :thmbsp:

The Heavyweight Box is fantastic (it does have several alt tracks, so that may be a turnoff for a new fan.. but you will find you need the box later if you become a convert).

There is also a 3 CD set that is worthwhile: Retrospective: The Impulse Years. It is a good overview of the period. I love "In a Sentimental Mood" on the Ellington album and it is also on the Impulse Years.

You should also look into the Miles Davis catalog for more Coltrane.

I have read that Parker was a big influence on Coltrane. I missed the movie when it came out. Is it worth renting?

RC

Yes, the soundtrack is great, Eastwood mixes Bird with contemporary rhytm sections and it works pretty well. Loiok out for the artistic license with the story but watch it a few times.

Agree with fd on the movie. It was also very clear that Eastwood has a lot of regard for Parker's contributions to Jazz.