View Full Version : Possible McIntosh fraud on Ebay!


Empire
10-21-2003, 09:31 PM
:confused: Someone has just listed (17 times) McIntosh MC500 amps on Ebay for a Buy It Now price of $999 ! This is either a major error or clearly a fraud. On Ebay search for Item # 3054591923


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3054591923&category=39783

Don C
10-21-2003, 10:03 PM
I sent a message to rules and safety about it. It looks like a hijacked account to me. I'm guessing that once you contact him, he will offer it even cheaper off ebay, and payment by wire transfer or scam escrow account only.

Empire
10-21-2003, 10:17 PM
Hi Don,

"I sent a message to rules and safety about it" I should have thought of that. I will send them a message too.

Gary

McIntosh collector for over 25 years

DingusBoy
10-21-2003, 10:38 PM
I say we spam the "seller" with false interest. Might keep them away from audio sales if it's too much trouble for them. Ebay takes forever to follow through.

Sending mine now.

"I'm interested in the Mcintosh amp. Please put me on the approved list.

Thanks,

Mr. R. Davies"

WhiteSE
10-21-2003, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I saw that to, and asked about condition and pics, etc etc....ridiculous price,,,used in AudioClassis like 4800 bucks....I wish it was that easy!!!

Brian
10-22-2003, 09:08 AM
I sent an email to be placed on the bidders list - ya gotta love that one. I was thinking about sending a cc to McIntosh. They would also have an interest in gettting this guy since Mc is so strong in dealer support, customer support and publically states that units bought off the net are not covered for service but, then that presents bad customer relations. How many look at a manufacturers web site before buying a product.

Empire
10-22-2003, 11:52 AM
Here is what he is sending back to people.

hi there,
i am sorry for the delay.
I want to let you know this item is allmost brand new,little used,and comes
with original box,it coming with US warranty (8 mounts),it is US model.It
will come with the receipt from the authorized dealer and there will be
no problem for you to use the warranty.

Look here all the details I think you need to close this deal quick and
succesfully.I'm sales representative for US corporation that trades with
it products and since the end of November l'm working for its italian branch.
THE BUY IT NOW PRICE IS $999 WITH SHIPMENT INCLUDED and you can buy it
without winning the auction.

Right now l'm located in Napoli (country: Italy ) and here I met my source
directly in the factory.

Shipping:
l will ship via UPS but you can choose other mail carrier .lt usually takes
48 hours till the package arrives to your door. l will cover the shipping
and insurance costs.

Payment:

l'm a serious seller with more than 2 years of experience in this field.
l'm a fair trader with a very good feedback on ebay which is the proof that
l have closed a lot of sucessful deals.During this period l learned that
the best deals are closed when the risk involved is minimum.
You will arrange payment through western union(www.westernunion.com)

I have something safe for you because I want you to be sure that you will
receive the product and I hope we will colaborate in future too because
I want to develop this bussines as soon as possible.

Look what I can do for you:

-you will make the transfer to my location(Napoli,Italy ) but not to my
name(you will use your wife name for example as receiver's name)so you can
be sure that i will not pick up the money untill you get the product.

So you make a deposit at western union and you will give me the transfer's
details(SENDER NAME,RECEIVER NAME,MTCN) so i can check that the deposit
was made.

YOU CAN EASYLY MAKE THE PAYMENT AT www.westernunion.com WITH YOUR CREDIT
CARD .ONLINE AND MAIL ME THE CONFIRMATION or if you wish to send the payment
with your credit card via Western Union wire transfer, please call this
tool free number : 1-800-CALL-CASH . They will charge your credit card and
they will send a wire transfer to my name and address.

After i verify I will send you the product imediatly and email you the
tracking number from UPS.

-only after you will receive the product and check it if it ok you will
have to change the of the transfer to my name so i can collect my money.So
untill you will have the product in your hands the money will be deposited
on your best friend's name at western union agent.

I think it is better to not inform western union that you will change the
receivers name in a few days because it is possible they to ask you to
pay the fees twice.

My old buyers of course make the transfer at western union direct to my

name which is easier and i will be happy if you can trust in me but because
it is our first deal i proposed you this very safe and efficient method
so you can only deposit the money first and after you get the product to
allowed me to cash it.


Probably this payment method it is not very familiar to you but since i

am in Italy (where is a lot of birocracy ) l have used it for many times
and each of my customers being satisfied and l have to
admit that it is most efficient process to go through.

Return policy: 20 days.my suppliers only approved this kind of
deal and thay is why i have to do only this way.



if you are are agree with what i was telling you,first of all i need your
full name and address,so i can make a reservation at UPS service and you
will have the package in 48 hours at your place.

mail me asap ,if you are still interested!

regards
....



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THOR
10-22-2003, 05:23 PM
Is he telling the truth about the Western Union thing? Or will he still be able to get the money??

Don C
10-22-2003, 06:00 PM
He will definitely be able to get the money. If there was any doubt before, it is erased now. This is definitely a ripoff.

moondog
10-22-2003, 06:17 PM
Oh yeah... It's now an INVAID ITEM.

Like it ever was VALID. :rolleyes:

gbkirsch
10-24-2003, 11:18 PM
How many fell for this before it was pulled??? Hopefully no one here!

Gary

WhiteSE
10-24-2003, 11:19 PM
Well, I am waiting for my 2....

































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