fast food real vs as advertised

[spartanmanor]

http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm

http://www.thewvsr.com/kfcbowl2.jpg http://www.thewvsr.com/kfcbowl1.JPG

[spartanmanor]

I think I am getting sick. :puke:

[rulerboyz]

Oh no, not those famous bowls again.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88239

[thedelihaus]

Love it!

Great "pro" vs. "amateur" photos, the advertized set-up food vs the stuff that's assembly lined into your gullet!

I quite enjoyed it! Thanky!

[MitsuMan]

I think I am getting sick. :puke:

Judging from the picture on the right, someone already did. :puke2:

[LDK180]

That throws "presentation is everything" right out the window.

[basite]

I wonder how people can eat fastfood, yuck!

all of those things look 'untastefull'

[rickon66]

I have often wondered if there is any kind of truth in advertising law that covers the way fast food items are presented in ads and on the menus Vs. the way they really are sold. Example: Arbys roast beef with the buns at least an inch apart, filled with beef Vs. buns touching with no beef showing around the edges at all.

[mulester7]

.....Guys, I think the key-action with KFC Famous Bowls, would be to order one with their white gravy instead of the brown....the white gravy is about 40 times better....I go to a local KFC location frequently for the all-you-can-stuff buffet....the mashed potatoes are instant, nothing like Cracker Barrel, but pretty decent....many times at my KFC location, I build a mound of mashed potatoes, open the middle with the white gravy laddle, and fill it up with their white gravy....then sometimes, I put a scoop of whole kernal corn into the white gravy....so far so good....all that's left to have a Famous Bowl would be the deep-fried battered white chicken pieces and cheese, and there's for sure nothing wrong with those two adds....shoot, I normally go the buffet route, but I'll try a Famous Bowl with white gravy and report....

[spartanmanor]

I have noticed a big difference in food quality at different KFC's. Here in the city they pretty much all will turn your stomach. The ones I have been to in rural farming communities are pretty darn good and the all you can eat buffets are a winner. I am still a little frightened by the bowl though.

[thedelihaus]

I have often wondered if there is any kind of truth in advertising law that covers the way fast food items are presented in ads and on the menus Vs. the way they really are sold. Example: Arbys roast beef with the buns at least an inch apart, filled with beef Vs. buns touching with no beef showing around the edges at all.

If this was the case, I imagine cosmetics and clothing and Hollywood would need to conform as well. I worked relating with advertizing- it's "Sell the Sizzle, not the Steak", for good or for bad...

Pardon me for singling out women, her- the media takes less shots of the men without "makeup" than unsuspecting starlets...

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/pleasurepaul/allceleb5.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/pleasurepaul/allceleb4-1.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/pleasurepaul/allceleb3.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/pleasurepaul/allceleb2.jpg

[Fisherdude]

I have often wondered if there is any kind of truth in advertising law that covers the way fast food items are presented in ads and on the menus Vs. the way they really are sold. Example: Arbys roast beef with the buns at least an inch apart, filled with beef Vs. buns touching with no beef showing around the edges at all.

Having been in the business, I have the answer.

You may not photograph a food product with more ingredients then it actually has. You may arrange the ingredients any way you wish. For example, if a roast beef sandwich has four onces of sliced beef, you may arrange the beef so that 3 1/2 ounces are hanging out the side facing the camera, and the rest of the bun is empty.

Campbell Soup got in major hot water (no pun intended!) several years ago for photographing soup that had a layer of marbles on the bottom of the bowl, so that all of the ingredients were pushed up to the top so that it looked like the bowl of soup was chock full of noodles, veggies, etc. That's going too far.

There are professionals in the food photography business that have perfected amazing tricks to make food look like it was just prepared, when in fact it's been sitting under the camera for hours.

Taco Bell is a master at this. Look at the pics on the menu board, and then unwrap your burrito.

Hhhmmmmm.

[spaceman]

Dang, the "truth in advertising" thing should REALLY apply to women. :yikes: I'm not a mean-hearted person, but some of those "beauty queens" are just downright scary. :para:

[Sluggo]

Man,Im glad I clicked on this thread!
I no longer have an Apetite and every fantasy Ive
ever had of a famous female celebrity is completely
Destroyed

[jimfet]

I love those KFC bowls. Plus the gas build up they produce is simply wonderful.
I've got tickets to the finger pull tonight.

[yamahammer]

kinda makes you feel bad when you wake up next to your woman and wish you had a movie star instead i wonder how many of them have morning breath to go along with them mugs

[mulester7]

I love those KFC bowls. Plus the gas build up they produce is simply wonderful.
I've got tickets to the finger pull tonight......Jimfet, you're putting on a Finger-Pull tonight, but it's over the beans you ate for lunch...that Famous Bowl you're going to eat for supper doesn't have any ingredients that are especially gaseous....hey, you eat, you fart, you eat, you fart, 'ya know?....been that way for awhile.....

[mulester7]

.....well, I got in the car and went to the local KFC I frequent....I used the drive-thru for the first time ever, and asked for two Famous Bowls with a lot of white gravy used instead of the brown gravy, (the cheap stuff that leaves you with an unpleasant whang)....I brought them home, ate one of them with fairly heavy pepper, and finished it about 20 minutes ago....via a route through the bathroom, I'm happy to report the red splotches on my face and red tile-prints on my knees are fading after calling Ralph and Earl......

.....just kidding....it was very, very good.....mine had too many mashed potatoes in it with too little corn, but the chicken nuggets that covered the top, wet with the white gravy, were to die for with melted cheese on them....ask for white gravy instead of their brown....I gave a total of around $8.50 for the two bowls....so one is $4.25....I can hit the buffet of that local KFC at senior discount by AARP membership at 55, and walk out bent-over on all the original legs and wings I want, plus ALL the rest of the buffet including HOT house-made biscuits with butter and honey for $6.19 total, including refillable sweet iced-tea cup....you tell me.....

[Geoff Bourquin]

The women in those pictures are shown at the extremes. The most beautiful woman in the world can look scary as hell under the right (wrong) circumstances. With the proper light, makeup, and smile even a woman who would not usually be considered pretty can look very pretty.

Now to the food.
:puke2:
The real food never looks as good as the pictures. The photographers spend hours sculpting the food and arranging lighting to make it look perfect. The kid at (your favorite fast food joint) with the oozing acne, runny nose and ratty hair slaps it together in the shortest time possible so he can get out of there and pick up his girlfriend in his 1982 Toyota with the gray primer hood and red primer rear quarter panel.

[billinkansas]

... so he can get out of there and pick up his girlfriend in his 1982 Toyota with the gray primer hood and red primer rear quarter panel.

... and head straight to the riverfront for the submarine races. Been there.

[Andyman]

I've said for years that the problem with corporate America is that they believe that what they see in the ads is what they are serving the public, be it food, or cars, or those oh-so -perky folks that just jump right up to help you when you need whatever it is that they are selling. It doesn't help when field management goes berserk trying to "deliver" those goods whenever the suits come through either, spending the payroll bucks up front to get ready and then screwing the rest of the week after the dog and pony show has left.

[wajobu]

URP...UUURRRPPPP...

Oh, oh.

[gearhead]

On a similar note-have you ever noticed in most manufacturer's car ads, all the vehicles look like they have dark-tinted wondows?

[CUlater]

Many of those women's pictures are not really them. I mean, they don't look that good all the time, I agree, and several of the 'unmadeup' ones are the actual item, but several (c'mon, no freakin' way that's Tyra Banks, for example) are just vaguely similar looking women not made up at all.

That's the frustrating thing about the internet - the pedigree and accuracy of so much stuff on it is questionable. Remember, just because something is posted doesn't mean its verified or accurate. Caveat Emptor.

[Geoff Bourquin]

It has to be true. They wrote it, so it must be! :drool:

[Urizen]

Since when did BK offer the Whopper with green leaf lettuce?

Always chunks of Iceburg, here.:smoke:

Halle Berry is beautiful in both pics.

Great thread.

[thedelihaus]

To be fair... The women in those pictures are shown at the extremes. The most beautiful woman in the world can look scary as hell under the right (wrong) circumstances. With the proper light, makeup, and smile even a woman who would not usually be considered pretty can look very pretty....

you are 100% correct.

What you are looking at are the folks at one stage at their best, with sheets of makeup on, and very controlled, managed photoshoots, lighting technicians, Leica cameras, and often featuring touched-up photos, either via old-school airbrush or modern photoshop techniques.

The other extreme is photos developed at Wal-Mart or Osco Drugs, poor resolution, disposable cameras and the person being caught in both unflattering light and in an unflattering moment- often to the joy of the paparazzi photogs.

The photos I posted were only meant to show the extremes, similar to the extremes of the food photos- as in what you are being sold or convinced to buy into, in contrast to what is reality and what you are being served- even if the example is closer to it's worst.

I'd be pleased to sooner find a partner that was realistically attractive, warts, pimples, gaseous emissions, rashes and all, and hope they feel good about themselves and can live comfortably and happily, than be expected to find a partner that looks like these, let's face it, unrealistic painted and artificially created "icons" and ideals of what a woman should be.

compare "Glamourshots" type professional photos to Polaroids of the same person, and you'll get the same results.

I imagine often when one meets a person at a bar, a church group, a party, a business meeting, they aren't radiating like a nuclear L'oreal ad, but nonetheless personality, demeanor, and a natural beauty still strikes the awestruck as nothing less than beauty.

It's a lose-lose situation for real-life people. The one being portrayed as a human painting or sculpture with no trace of imperfection leaves both the desiring persuant and the desired persuee with unrealistic, unobtainable goals.

I agree it's not fair. To anyone.

And relating to the food- I doubt it's fair when one buys a Big Mac and it looks like a soggy, stepped-on slop of mess assembled from pre-packaged lettuce and tomato, frozen patties, oozing special sauce and katsup and mustard that's somehow managed to migrate to the top of the bun, and mass-market cheese, assembled by a youngster just entering, just being introduced to a workforce the first time, and making a nickel over minimum wage, to a burger with farm-fresh organic tomato and lettuce, fresh ground chuck, and imported hand churned cheese, being photographed by a 60-100k+ a year professional photographer and an industry that specializes in food photography.

Many of those women's pictures are not really them. I mean, they don't look that good all the time, I agree, and several of the 'unmadeup' ones are the actual item, but several (c'mon, no freakin' way that's Tyra Banks, for example) are just vaguely similar looking women not made up at all....

I'd betcha a McIntosh amp and raise ya a Rega Planet turntable all those photos are real. Keep in mind you're getting shots of people at their most in-opportune.

As for Miss Banks, it's possibly a shot of her after an illness or long work-day. But remember, models are hired for lengthy limbs, great cheekbones, low weight, good genetic eye structure and most importantly, potential, with a little makeup and the like, to be "transformed".

I've worked in the past with filmmakers, photographers, make-up artists and advertising firms and have met a few of the starlets above.

Most of those pictures, the less flattering of them, but others, I kid you not, without mentioning names, are actually better than some may look in person. Of course, this wouldn't matter much, if some of their attitudes and personalitys weren't so ugly- the true dissapointment.

My biggest shock is how many of the female stars are tiny- Madonna is a small woman (and to me very attractive in person), many others are small in stature as well, while others are pretty tall for a female's standard.

Makes it important when casting for films- more than one would realize.

Case in point- who ever thought Katie Holmes, who looks tiny on screen, was as tall as she is? She towers over Tom Cruise, who, by no means a giant at five foot eight or nine or so, with 1 or two inch platform shoes is still dwarfed by Ms. (Mrs.) Holmes.

Food for thought.

Pun intended.

It has to be true. They wrote it, so it must be! :drool:

That seems to me to be a pot-shot, and a condescending statement aimed at my post. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

The photos posted were hopefully in support of our discussion about truth of pruduct vs. smearing of said truth in advertising. I'm not claiming I'm 100% right, but with some longstanding experience of this field, I feel I've made a good point, and I feel I have at least a modicum of experience to speak from. The goal here was not to attack any celebrities- it's a tough gig to do, no matter if you chose the career willingly or not- it has it's benefits but also has it's dark side. My goal was to highlight the fact that what you see, is not always what you actually get.

And to further bolster your opinion, that what you see, either of a starlet or hamburger at it's glorious best, or what you get, a starlet with the flu or a hangover or exhastion after a long day's work or a burger that looks like it's been stepped on, is not always what you get.

What you get is closer to being somewhere in the middle (or realistically to the lesser end).

To avoid any more of this topic, concerned it could become unpleasant, or political, I politely step down from discussing it any further- I don't want bad feelings among disagreeing AKers and certainly don't want to foster any unpleasant pot-shots.

[hdrl1935]

Before I say anything.......I LOVE THE KFC BOWLS. I've been doing that since I was a kid, so I dig it:yes: Second, I was lucky enough to spend some time in Brazil (chasing a woman around the world) :D. They love McDonald's down there. I mean like you wouldn't believe. Now, I'm not a big fan of McD's, but what the hell, I'll try some Brazilian Mc'D's. That chit is good. And most of all, the presentation (LOL) was impressive. It was much better than their American counterparts. Honestly:tresbon: Those of you that travel to other countries, have you noticed the same thing?:scratch2:
-Derek:music:

[Danger Boy]

KFC Famous bowl has 720 calories and 34 grams of fat

KFC popcorn chicken (family size) has 1210 calories and a whopping 77 grams of fat.

KFC Crispy Twister 650 calories and 34 grams of fat.

[jimfet]

AAAAHHHHH....that was a good one.
Oh Oh. I feel another.

[LDK180]

Can anyone name the actress in the photo that appears in the third row of the second column, and the movie that the photo came from? She is in makeup and costume. BTW a very good movie IMHO.

[70salesguy]

Speaking of car ads......

Notice how in most car ads on TV the road is wet!

Same as in the movies, the street is wet too!

Back in the 80's they started shooting movies in the town I lived in. The movie company/police dept. liason was a good friend of mine. He invited me down one night to watch them shoot a scene downtown.

They took a couple of takes and then they wet the street down again, since it was drying out. I asked why they did this and he said it was because dry pavement or concrete didn't look good in the movies. When it's wet, it shines and reflects all the light from signs and other things.

Watch your next car ad on tv and see if the road is wet!

[grumpy]

10 pounds of bondo on a POS on a pile of chit still leaves a POS.

I eat much healthier now and wouldn't touch a KFC toilet bowl to save my life. Even when i eat everything in site I hated KFC. Their chicken makes me ill as hell. Now Popeye's makes some damn good spicy chicken !

[rickr15]

Now Popeye's makes some damn good spicy chicken !

Gotta get the cajun gravy with that.

[grumpy]

I skipped the gravy and went straight to the red beans and rice....Now theres an out of order john waiting to happen !

[Sandy G]

What "gets" me is how damn good Burger King smells when you drive by one of their joints..and how "blah" tasting they really are when you get it..You might as well be chewing on cardboard, but the smell makes you think its gonna be the tastiest thing you ever put in yr mouth...

[spartanmanor]

two words: chicken mcnoggin

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/graphics/chckhead.jpg

[VinylHanger]

Julia Roberts looks mighty fine in both pics.

As for fast food, we do a lot of Taco bell, but only out of convenience. We can hit the local Chinese place for a lunch special for the same money. And as for burgers, the Carl's Jr. 6 dollar burger is awesome.

Hmmmm.... I'm feeling like Chinese.... of course one of the Chinese places in town was cited for killing a goat in the back alley, we don't go there. :no:

[philo426]

Cheryl Crow looks great too.I can't figure out why Lance dumped her!The only thing I can think of is she is a touring musician so the time apart could have been deal breaker!

[willyrover]

At this point, anyone who believes advertising of any kind (especially photoraphs of a product) is probably missing a few marbles.

The whole point of photos on packaging is to sell the product. Otherwise, why not just package everthing with plain brown wrappers and a small typewritten label identifying what is inside?

[mulester7]

At this point, anyone who believes advertising of any kind (especially photoraphs of a product) is probably missing a few marbles.

The whole point of photos on packaging is to sell the product. Otherwise, why not just package everthing with plain brown wrappers and a small typewritten label identifying what is inside?.....if you've got a fuzzy cheap-looking label, in most cases, the buyer expects the contents to be no better than the label, imo....conversely, you get great-looking product-labeling, and the public will buy it once....if the product has winning taste inside, word-of-mouth will take it from there.....


....brought to you today by "Maude's Cafe"....her motto is, "Only Grandma's Need Apply".....

[geaugafletcher]

Chicken McMaggets, my brother always called them.

Does anybody expect much of anything to look the same compared to its advertising pictures?

There are a few women in that collage that look better without makeup - the true beauties. :)