View Full Version : I saw a tube amp at London Drugs for $799


Kelvin
06-13-2007, 12:11 PM
I don't know what to think.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6150/2094647largegm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Electronics.htm?CatalogNavigationBreadCrumbs=Elect ronics;Electronics;Home%20Audio;Home%20Theatre%20S ystems;Vuum%20Audio%20Vacuum%20Tube%20Amplifier%20 System%20with%20Speakers,%20iPod%20Docking%20Stati on%20and%20Remote%20-%20VTI-B1&CS_Catalog=Electronics&CS_RootCategory=Electronics&CS_Category=Home%20Theatre%20Systems&CS_ProductID=2094647&ProductTab=1

hpsenicka
06-13-2007, 12:19 PM
I'd be thinking about the following:

1) Does it make sense to consider an upscale tube rig to use as a docking station for a digital device that uses lossy compression to store music.

2) Why is a drug store chain stocking upscale marketed audio toys?

Celt
06-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Why is a drug store chain stocking upscale marketed audio toys?

They're obviously on drugs... :D

spartanmanor
06-13-2007, 12:40 PM
With video output as well. Someone needs to educate the public about the medium.

Holst
06-13-2007, 12:46 PM
I remember people frowning when Pioneer gear started showing up at non audio salon type places in the 70's. Either people will wake up and become audio enthusiast or we are on the verge of becoming yet another version of un-cool.

Analog_Ed
06-13-2007, 12:53 PM
I also have seen the same amp sold under the HCT brand name.

The price here in the states is $259

For your reading enjoyment...
http://www.vuumaudio.com/index.html

The specs are impressive...LOL

VACUUM TUBE AMPLIFIER
Power Output ....................................... 15W x 2
Frequency Response .......................... 20Hz ~ 20KHz +/- 1.5dB
Harmonic Distortion .............................. <0.5%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio ............................ >86dB
Input Impedance ................................... 100K Ω
Output Impedance ................................ 4Ω, 8Ω
Power Supply ...................................... AC100 ~ 120V 50/60Hz
AC220 ~ 240V 50/60Hz
Dimensions: (W x H x D) ...................... 260 x 130 x 145mm
Included Vacuum Tubes ...................... 6N1 (ECC85) x 2
6E2 (EM 87) x 1
SPEAKERS
Driver Unit ............................................ 4" + 1" Dome Per Channel
Impedance ........................................... 4Ω
Max. RMS Power ................................. 50W Per Channel
Dimensions: (W x H x D) ...................... 144 x 237 x 177mm



Ed

spartanmanor
06-13-2007, 12:56 PM
Nice mark up by London Drugs. Guess they need to pay for their fix. :smoke:

Grumpy
06-13-2007, 01:12 PM
Don't think i would call that upscale.

hpsenicka
06-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Don't think i would call that upscale.

I was thinking in the context of iPod accessories... not in the context of quality tube gear.

KeninDC
06-13-2007, 02:34 PM
I saw a werewolf ordering a Pina Colada at Trader Vics.

House de Kris
06-13-2007, 05:20 PM
1) Does it make sense to consider an upscale tube rig to use as a docking station for a digital device that uses lossy compression to store music.

It baffles me how people seem to forget that the iPod doesn't force you to use lossy compression.

hpsenicka
06-13-2007, 05:34 PM
It baffles me how people seem to forget that the iPod doesn't force you to use lossy compression.

I am well aware that an iPod is not strictly limited to using lossy compression.... but it is designed and marketed with compressed audio in mind, and uses lossy compression by default.

Also, FLAC files, one of the most universal lossless compression formats, are not supported.

Rybeam
06-13-2007, 06:38 PM
Can a York tube amp be far behind ? Or maybe a Dual !

boyon00
06-13-2007, 06:54 PM
I saw a werewolf ordering a Pina Colada at Trader Vics.

And his hair was purple:D

jrsh92
06-13-2007, 07:09 PM
Although 0.5% distortion is pretty bad, it's tubes... so it's better than transistor distortion, I guess. Pretty powerful amp in terms of tubes, and really nice looking. I would really like to hear one, it appears to come with cheap speakers, unfortunetely, but that can be fixed.

Analog_Ed
06-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Although 0.5% distortion is pretty bad, it's tubes... so it's better than transistor distortion, I guess. Pretty powerful amp in terms of tubes, and really nice looking. I would really like to hear one, it appears to come with cheap speakers, unfortunetely, but that can be fixed.

There is also a 6L6 version on the website, that boasts 2% distortion..and don't knock those speakers, they are the next insignia.

Ed

absolon
06-14-2007, 12:41 AM
2) Why is a drug store chain stocking upscale marketed audio toys?

They have a pretty well stocked audio department aimed at the home theatre market. The salespeople are way more knowledgeable than Future Shop/Best Buy and equipment is at least name brand. Also do cameras and computers along with drugs, condoms and beauty supplies.

jrsh92
06-14-2007, 06:55 AM
There is also a 6L6 version on the website, that boasts 2% distortion..and don't knock those speakers, they are the next insignia.

Ed
2%? Might that work as a guitar overdrive channel if you just ramped it all the way up (past rated power)? That's getting pretty high. Maybe just pull out the volume control for max volume and INSANE FUZZ.
Yeah, that's probably not the best example of what tubes can do... and the fact that they set up something that's supposed to sound good/unique with those speakers doesn't help.

nukeme
06-14-2007, 07:19 AM
And his hair was purple:D

or, his hair was perfect.....:yes:

drknstrmyknight
06-14-2007, 08:15 AM
I am well aware that an iPod is not strictly limited to using lossy compression.... but it is designed and marketed with compressed audio in mind, and uses lossy compression by default.

Also, FLAC files, one of the most universal lossless compression formats, are not supported.


Rockbox lets you use .flac files on your ipod.
For the money, with apple lossless encoding, I think you're going to have a hard time finding as good a source as an IPOD.

2DualsNotEnough
06-14-2007, 08:26 AM
$695 US doesnt seem like too bad a deal,considering that tube ipod setup one company was offering for over 4 grand.
Jimmy

hpsenicka
06-14-2007, 10:44 AM
They have a pretty well stocked audio department aimed at the home theatre market. The salespeople are way more knowledgeable than Future Shop/Best Buy and equipment is at least name brand. Also do cameras and computers along with drugs, condoms and beauty supplies.

Cool! One-stop shopping! :banana:

bowtie427ss
06-14-2007, 11:44 AM
I saw a werewolf ordering a Pina Colada at Trader Vics............. and i'm guessing he had a chinese menu in his hand?

Holst
06-14-2007, 11:46 AM
They have a pretty well stocked audio department aimed at the home theatre market. The salespeople are way more knowledgeable than Future Shop/Best Buy and equipment is at least name brand. Also do cameras and computers along with drugs, condoms and beauty supplies.

....and really, as we all know, if you have a tube amp, you'll be needing those condoms:smoke:

yrly
06-14-2007, 11:52 AM
I think these things are OEMed from Dared. They sell them all over the place under many brands too, just saw one in a catalog the other day and it wasn't somewhere you'd normally have expected to see one.

absolon
06-14-2007, 01:54 PM
....and really, as we all know, if you have a tube amp, you'll be needing those condoms:smoke:

Does that mean us transistor types should feel inadequate?:scratch2:

basite
06-14-2007, 02:36 PM
you're looking at a fatman I-tube, sold in the regular multimedia store, ready to be wrecked by the mass of people who don't know what a tube is...

I heard it a few times, it did sound tube-ish, but it certainly isn't 'upscale' you'd have to turn the volume half way open to get a decent sound, which still wasn't normal listening level. The speakers were crap, no extra inputs at the rear, only for the ipod dock.
but, even when it's not good at all, they are mass market tube products...

and wait, no no no, we're not finished yet
look at this:
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/catalog/tree/en/us/consumer/home_entertainment_gr_us_consumer/audio_systems_ca_us_consumer/micro_systems_su_us_consumer/ce/_productId_MCD908_37_US_CONSUMER/_activeTab_features/DVD_Micro_Theater+MCD908_37?proxybuster=SB0OWT1BV3 O2LJ0RMRCSHP3HKFSESI5P

it's a hype I guess...

Keep them spinning,
Bert.

ARRAY
06-15-2007, 01:45 AM
London Drugs is great. Nice place to shop, with some really fair pricing at times for good quality merchandise. Nice store layout too. Saw / laid hands upon the tube amp in question but haven't heard it as of yet - the salesman didn't have it set up at the time. Considering I wouldn't consider buying it, I didn't want to waste the guys time (even though they are non-comissioned). It looks neat, but I would not fork out for a Chinese amp no matter what it sounded like. It is sure to remain an interesting curiosity.