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Morden2004
11-21-2003, 09:50 AM
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Paul (Morden2004)[/SIZE]

Kenwood Man
11-23-2003, 09:53 AM
Hey,
I just got a chanse to move my Sansui gear I've had it in a location where its dificult to see the s/n. Anyway here is what I have! :)

Sansui G 6700: 810020220
Sansui G 4700: 829114336

Morden2004
11-23-2003, 10:01 AM
I have replaced the old Sansui Sales on eBay report with two new reports;

Sansui - Sales {by PRICE} and
Sansui - Sales {by DATE}

These two reports give you a good look at the price trends for Sansui gear sold on eBay.

Go to: http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html to view all reports and to download data in Excel format.

Morden2004
11-23-2003, 10:04 AM
Thanks, Peter. Serial numbers have been added.

Paul

Morden2004
11-24-2003, 06:55 AM
Here are the most recent Sansui sales on eBay:

Date ........Model ....Price ....ProductClass

22-Nov-03 6060 $31.01 Receivers
22-Nov-03 8080DB $172.50 Receivers
22-Nov-03 8080DB $103.51 Receivers
22-Nov-03 AU-517 $130.00 Integrated Amps
22-Nov-03 AU-717 $157.50 Integrated Amps
22-Nov-03 AU-717 $150.00 Integrated Amps
22-Nov-03 AU-719 $151.00 Integrated Amps
22-Nov-03 AX-7 $37.00 Audio Mixers
22-Nov-03 CA-2000 $167.50 Preamps
22-Nov-03 G-8700DB $305.00 Receivers
22-Nov-03 QR-6500 $147.50 Quad Receivers (4Ch)
22-Nov-03 RA-500 $28.77 Reverb Amps
22-Nov-03 SE-8 $50.00 Equalizers
22-Nov-03 SE-88 $66.00 Equalizers
22-Nov-03 SP-7500X $125.50 Speakers
22-Nov-03 TU-505 $26.00 Tuners
22-Nov-03 TU-717 $256.27 Tuners
22-Nov-03 TU-717 $202.50 Tuners
22-Nov-03 TU-717 $258.00 Tuners
22-Nov-03 TU-D55X $20.00 Tuners
23-Nov-03 441 $5.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 5000A $56.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 7900Z $102.50 Receivers
23-Nov-03 8080DB $122.75 Receivers
23-Nov-03 881 $56.62 Receivers
23-Nov-03 9090DB $222.50 Receivers
23-Nov-03 A-900P $50.00 Integrated Amps
23-Nov-03 AU-717 $79.89 Integrated Amps
23-Nov-03 AX-7 $36.00 Audio Mixers
23-Nov-03 CA-3000 $550.00 Preamps
23-Nov-03 G-4500 $32.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 G-7500 $90.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 G-7500 $95.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 G-9000 $260.00 Receivers
23-Nov-03 P-L50 $16.00 Turntables
23-Nov-03 QBL-100 $61.00 Audio/Video Control Unit
23-Nov-03 QD-5500 $137.50 Quad Reel-to-Reel Tape Decks (4Ch)
23-Nov-03 QS-500 $48.50 Quad Power Amps (4Ch)
23-Nov-03 RA-500 $6.53 Reverb Amps
23-Nov-03 RA-500 $21.00 Reverb Amps
23-Nov-03 RA-500 $51.01 Reverb Amps
23-Nov-03 RG-900R $51.01 Equalizers
23-Nov-03 RX-4010 $9.95 Cassette Tape Decks
23-Nov-03 SC-1330 $99.99 Cassette Tape Decks
23-Nov-03 SDM-2 $2.25 Misc.
23-Nov-03 SE-8 $26.00 Equalizers
23-Nov-03 SE-8 $90.00 Equalizers
23-Nov-03 SP-3000 $250.00 Speakers
23-Nov-03 SP-50 $32.00 Speakers
23-Nov-03 SP-5500X $100.00 Speakers
23-Nov-03 SP-M1 $41.25 Speakers
23-Nov-03 SR-838 $169.69 Turntables
23-Nov-03 SS-20 $19.99 Headphones
23-Nov-03 S-X1130 $129.99 Receivers
23-Nov-03 T-900SW $61.00 Tuners
23-Nov-03 T-910 $29.95 Tuners
23-Nov-03 TU-5900 $50.00 Tuners
23-Nov-03 TU-717 $103.50 Tuners
23-Nov-03 TU-717 $231.29 Tuners

Glenz75
11-24-2003, 09:36 PM
Hi there, recently I made a list of all the Sansui gear I own and have dated it all via the serial numbers.
Here is the list for you to add to your database of Sansui...

2000A - 810040398 April 1970
1000X - 11120946 Jan 1971
350A - 814020413 Feb 1974
800 - 28114492 Nov 1968
QRX5500 - 234120379 Feb 1974
QRX7001 - 235079454 July 1975
TU-666 - 231020591 Feb 1971
G-6000 - 858050948 May 1978

AU101 - 513123205 Dec 1973
AU505 - 833020106 Feb 1973
AU9900 - 216020087 Feb 1976
AU919 - 229080010 - Aug 1979

SP1200A - 94090961 Sep 1974
SP1200A - 94090926 Sep 1974
SP2500A - 95010663 Jan 1975
SP2500A - 95010649 Jan 1975
SD7000 - 110080003 Aug 1970

Some of the dates could be wrong, I did question the speakers when I did them as the "A" versions could not have been made in 1970, as 74,75 seem to match better.
Hope this list is some use to you anyway
Cheers :)
Glen

ProAc_Fan
11-24-2003, 11:10 PM
Paul I notice you don't list MSRP's for the speakers. Is that just an oversight or do you need them? If you need them, I'll be happy to provide them for you.

Mike

Morden2004
11-25-2003, 04:52 AM
ProAc_Fan:

I only have MSRP where I could locate it. Many of the models were "clones" of other models as I found new sales for them - hence no MSRP for those.

I hadn't noticed that speakers were so short of MSRP's. If you have these numbers then, by all means, send them over and I'll (puff puff) key in more data :D

Thanks,

Paul

Morden2004
11-25-2003, 04:53 AM
Glenz75:

Thanks for the serial numbers. I'll get those added along with yesterdays eBay sales sometime this morning.

Paul

Morden2004
11-28-2003, 11:23 AM
Latest Sansui database counts:

# Models: 893
# eBay Sale prices: 676
# Serial Numbers: 167

Updated as of Nov. 28, 2003 @ 12:00 PM EST

http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html


Paul

Morden2004
12-02-2003, 06:55 AM
Latest database specs:

# Models = 896
# eBay prices = 763
# Serial Number = 179

Updated as of 08:00 AM this morning.

Sansui Database (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

Paul

zulualpha
12-06-2003, 03:22 AM
A splendid list -

here the s/n´s of my Sansuis

TU-X1 1210040070
AU-X1 1220050138

both sold in Germany about 1979/80

zulualpha

Morden2004
12-06-2003, 05:02 AM
Zulualpha said "A splendid list -

Why, thanks. I do like some feedback :D

I had a problem with your serial numbers. They are not "in spec" as I (we) understand them.

If I drop the leading "1" in each s/n, they decode correctly. I am wondering if there was some sort of different s/n system for units sold in Europe. I must ask B/F if he know of this.

Anyway, I added them with my modification and they decode correctly, I think.

BTW, the Sansui database now has 898 Models, 819 eBay prices and 186 serial numbers.

Next milestone, 1,000 eBay prices!

Paul

BeatleFred
12-06-2003, 01:32 PM
Hi Paul,

Perhaps z-a can verify if there is an extra digit in his serial #'s or whether it was a typo, as far as I know, the s/n code should be the same.

I am glad to see that the Database is expanding, however, as I mentioned before, alot of the beginning/ending dates of manufacture are in need of correction. For example, the AU-517, 317, and 117 are all part of the same Line, thus its clear that the AU-317 cannot be dated 73-74 (as it is shown in the database) if the 517 & 117 are given as 78-80, correct? Sansui also had a tendency to add some lower wattage models to the Line a year or so later, such as this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3063755973&category=3280

Have you been in touch with Bill Jahn yet? Perhaps he can provide you with his copy of Sansui model/date info which is quite accurate. I did tell Bill I'd look over the List & proofread it when I had a chance (and I will do that, Bill :) but a quick perusal of it for now-looks pretty accurate. The info is laid out in the same style as they appeared in those October Audio magazine Annual Directory issues.

If you really wanted to speed up the process of adding additional s/n's to the d-base, I'd suggest sending a pre-written request to all the Ebay Sansui sellers and asking them- most would probably be happy to comply and write back to you with the s/n they have for the unit, though some may not for whatever reasons. Since there will always be Sansui's coming along on Ebay (and places like Ebay Germany as well), this project will be an ongoing one :)

Regards,

B/F (For now, as an example, I'd list the AU-20000 as 1975-77, ditto the BA-5000, and if there are any spotted in the future on Ebay with an 8 in the third digit, then I'd revise it to 75-78)

Morden2004
12-06-2003, 02:32 PM
[B/F]

I have emailed William and asked for those Sansui pages. We just concluded another bit of business as he found 2 drivers for my Boston A70's.

I made some data changes to the "date trigger" that allows my routines to select the date from the serial number for those 117's, 317's and 517's etc.

You can verify and report back to me any that seem to be inaccurate.

How this new date routine works is;

If the manufacturing dates are all contained in the same decade, then my "DECADE-START" date field will be the start year of that decade. For example;

1973-1975 DECADE-START=1970

However, if the manufacturing dates span a decade boundary, the my DECADE-START date field is the START YEAR of manufacturing. For example,

1978-1982 DECADE-START=1978

That way I can calculate that a year digit of "2" in the serial number of that last example is 1982 and not 1972 based upon the DECADE-START of 1978.

It's quite flexible but like all flexible systems it requires a bit of data tweaking. And I'm forever adding data and making adjustments when I find errors. It's becoming a full time job :D

HELP!

Paul

Morden2004
12-07-2003, 07:00 AM
I have added a Database Statistics link at the top of the Sansui Database Web page that states the current database statistics (counts) and shows the last date/time that the database was updated.

This makes it easier to tell if things have changed since your last visit - .. and you ARE visiting the site, right? :D

See the Sansui Database (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html) here.

Paul

zulualpha
12-08-2003, 03:11 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BeatleFred
[B]Hi Paul,

Perhaps z-a can verify if there is an extra digit in his serial #'s or whether it was a typo, as far as I know, the s/n code should be the same.

B/F is right, I had a closer look at the s/n of my Sansuis.
I mistook the residues of a sticker from the Sansui-Dealer.
They are both in fact nine digit s/n´s.
Time for some glasses...
zulualpha

HiFi
12-08-2003, 07:22 PM
I'm not sure if you can use this or not, but I picked up a pair of SS-20 headphones yesterday, complete with box, extension cord, and product literature. S/N is 641 61.

Morden2004
12-09-2003, 04:21 AM
HiFi:

Where did you find the serial number on those SS-20's??? I have a fabulous pair of SS-50's (eBay, of course :D ) and I can't find any evidence of a serial number.

Paul

HiFi
12-09-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
HiFi:

Where did you find the serial number on those SS-20's??? I have a fabulous pair of SS-50's (eBay, of course :D ) and I can't find any evidence of a serial number.

Paul

The serial number is on a small sticker on the box (black with gold numbers). These even have the original sales reciept, and it's on there too.

Morden2004
12-10-2003, 08:06 AM
Sansui Database Statistics as of: 10-Dec-03 10:02 AM


# of Models # of Prices # of Serial Numbers

904 ........... 928 ...........198


See the database here (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)


Paul

crankitup99
12-11-2003, 08:22 PM
just wanted to give ya a tip of the cap on your effort of sansui values!!! just giving credit where credits due,man what a assistance to folks that dont have a clue of values. keep up the good work sir ,regards the crankkker

crankitup99
12-11-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by crankitup99
just wanted to give ya a tip of the cap on your effort of sansui values!!! just giving credit where credits due,man what a assistance to folks that dont have a clue of values. keep up the good work sir ,regards the crankkker

Morden2004
12-12-2003, 04:30 AM
Thanks a lot, Cranker! I've been happy gathering those Sansui numbers - but I don't know for how much longer I can keep it up. My server will be going off-line in April for several months while I build a new house.

I've been a big fan of yours :yippy: since I first spotted one of your ads on ePay. Don't you get too uptight about the ALL CAPS in your writeups, your ads always bring a smile to my face because you have so much passion for your product and your writeups show it!

Nice to see ya here on AK. This is a GREAT PLACE for audio-nuts. A really nice atmosphere and quality talk.

NOW HOW ABOUT SOME SERIAL NUMBERS FOR ME WHEN YOU HAVE SANSUI STUFF FOR SALE? :D

Seriously, though, anyone who has Sansui stuff either in their possession or on ePay can just ship me those numbers or post them here. The Serial numbers validate the manufacturing dates for the equipment.

Welcome aboard!

Paul

Morden2004
12-12-2003, 12:36 PM
Sansui Database Statistics as of: 12-Dec-03 2:29 PM

# of Models
906

# of Prices
971

# of Serial Numbers
203


Sorry I was late updating today. But it is only a hobby :D

Paul


Sansui Database link (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

car67
12-12-2003, 11:42 PM
Hi Paul,

I finally got the chance to visit your database today and what a great job you've done! I also got off my bum and took down the serial numbers for my lot. :) A few too many pieces at the moment :) and some will have to find new homes.

Model # Serial Number
G-3500 818100023
SE-7 919090331
AU-555A 223100180
AU-919 229090201
TU-717 847100541
SC-3330 250030989
TU-7700 815060214
AU-317 II 839040049
SR-222 II 669090590
SR-222 II 318102959
AU-317 838053637
TU-417 849031210
TU-417 849011502
AX-7 217080070
SC-1330 249122572
TU-217 848064911
TU-217 849021006
TA-300 039011709
AU217 II 839060098
SC-1110 247080805

cheers
Jack

Morden2004
12-13-2003, 05:47 AM
Car67:

Well, if you need to make some room at home for food or loved ones, just ship a few of those units to the GWN. I'll be waiting :D

Thanks for the numbers. I'll put them in shortly.

Paul

PS: Actually, I just added them. Quite a list. Had a severe case of Carpal from typing them in. Does AK have Health Insurance?

Chris11123
12-13-2003, 12:14 PM
hey awesome list, heres 2 serials for the sansui speakers i have

sp-3500 92081441


s-750 (i think these are 80's speakers as they are plasticy and light) 92303030783

Morden2004
12-13-2003, 02:32 PM
Chris11123:

Is that S-750 or S-75U?? I don't have a model S-750.

And, why only 1 serial # for the SP-3500? Don't ya have two? :p:

Paul

Chris11123
12-13-2003, 03:04 PM
its an 80's speaker s-750 ill post pics and i didnt know there were 2 serial numbers ill post the other soon

Morden2004
12-13-2003, 03:36 PM
With 2 speakers there will be 2 serial numbers.

Unless you are a MONO Hi-Fi kind of guy :rolleyes:

Were the S-750 speakers bought in North America? Or were these from overseas?

Paul

Morden2004
12-14-2003, 07:22 AM
Sansui Database Statistics as of:
14-Dec-03 8:44 AM

# of Models
911

# of Prices
1014 :yippy:

# of Serial Numbers
228



Paul

Sansui Database link (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

BeatleFred
12-14-2003, 05:41 PM
Keep up the good work, Paul. By the way, I like the S/N by Model list, thats a convenient way to see all the #'s & their manufacture dates for any particular model. (I did see a typo, the AU-20000 you have listed should be Nov 75, not 85 but I can imagine these typos are only natural when youre dealing with so much information on a daily basis :)

Here's a rare-bird that you might want to add to the List of Sansui models, the overeseas version of the G-7700:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3065726944&category=50592


Regards,

B/F

Morden2004
12-14-2003, 06:08 PM
Thanks B/F. I have made that adjustment to the mfg. dates for the AU-20000.

I added the G-771 as well. I love those G-xxxx receivers and I may add my 2nd shortly :cool:

New reports were just generated.

Paul

Morden2004
12-15-2003, 06:23 AM
Yes, we set a new total Sansui sales record yesterday :yippy:


Yesterday's eBay sales of vintage Sansui gear exceeded $6,000.

To help you appreciate the sales volumes for classic Sansui equipment sold on eBay I have created yet another report;
Sansui Sales by Class - Totaled by Date.

This new report is now available on the Sansui Database page located
here. (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

Paul

SteveA
12-16-2003, 12:36 PM
Hi,

Just one to add

CD-x711 - 619042840

Chris11123
12-16-2003, 12:42 PM
sansui sp-3500 speakers sorry i didnt have other sn that time

92081441
92081435

Morden2004
12-16-2003, 03:15 PM
Thanks Steve and Chris. Updates shortly.

Paul

crankitup99
12-16-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
Thanks a lot, Cranker! I've been happy gathering those Sansui numbers - but I don't know for how much longer I can keep it up. My server will be going off-line in April for several months while I build a new house.

I've been a big fan of yours :yippy: since I first spotted one of your ads on ePay. Don't you get too uptight about the ALL CAPS in your writeups, your ads always bring a smile to my face because you have so much passion for your product and your writeups show it!

Nice to see ya here on AK. This is a GREAT PLACE for audio-nuts. A really nice atmosphere and quality talk.

NOW HOW ABOUT SOME SERIAL NUMBERS FOR ME WHEN YOU HAVE SANSUI STUFF FOR SALE? :D

Seriously, though, anyone who has Sansui stuff either in their possession or on ePay can just ship me those numbers or post them here. The Serial numbers validate the manufacturing dates for the equipment.

Welcome aboard!

Paul hello paul got a serial # from my g-9700 sale on e-bay didnt meet reserve but sold off e-bay fetched 450.00 my reserve was 499.00 here it is 819080118 have a good un regards the crankkker

Morden2004
12-17-2003, 05:02 AM
Crankitup:

Thanks for that serial # - in fact any time you have a Sansui item in your bag, shoot me the number:D

I was watching that G-9700 auction :worried: - yup, I was thinking about bidding on that monster!

But, MBH would have cut my internet connection :rant: if I brought another piece of equipment into this place so I held myself back :dammit:

I'm still lusting after a G-9000 if I get a chance.

Paul

Morden2004
12-19-2003, 07:42 AM
Here's the latest stats for the Sansui database:

Sansui Database Statistics as of: 19-Dec-03 9:29 AM

# of Models
920

# of Prices
1123

# of Serial Numbers
248

Check us out at Sansui Database (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)


Paul

PS: I'm hoping to have the forum chief create a sticky message for me so that we won't have a gigantic thread for routine reporting of database stats.

BeatleFred
12-19-2003, 07:02 PM
Hi Paul:

I was just browsing thru the serial #'s by Model section and I noticed that you have a listing for a 9090 receiver thats dated January 1974. Do you recall where you got that particular one from?

I ask because I am wondering if it is accurate or if its a typo. The 9090 was introduced by Sansui for the 1976 model year. My feeling is that the very earliest 9090's would date to late '75. 1974, and especially the very first month of '74 seems WAY too early to me. I have plenty of hi fi mags going back 30+ years and Sansui advertised in these mags every month. If the 9090 were around as early as that, I am sure I wouldve noticed it already in any 1974 hi fi magazine or buying guide.

Regards,

B/F

ckelly
12-20-2003, 05:01 AM
Paul

Here is the serial number for my amp:

019101425

october 1969?

Mine is a Sansui AU555

I also noticed you have one dated 1979 - i think it's a typo as this model was made between 1970 - 1973


Chris

Morden2004
12-20-2003, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the s/n.

yes, 1969.

I will fix the "starting mfg. date" in the database and that will make the other one correct. Thanks for pointing that out!

Paul

BeatleFred
12-20-2003, 02:33 PM
Paul- any info on that '74 9090?

B/F

Morden2004
12-20-2003, 03:02 PM
B/F: You have a PM.

BeatleFred
12-20-2003, 03:30 PM
Hi Paul:

I received your PM. Not sure if you wanted me to respond via PM, but as you may know, it doesnt take too many PM's before the mailbox gets full (both the Inbox & Sent Items) messages.

Well, since you dont keep track of where the s/n's come from, I suppose you're unable to then contact the person whom you obtained that particular # from to verify its accuracy (or perhaps you obtained it from an Ebay photo). So, I guess its up to you whether you wish to keep it or not, though I suspect the year is wrong. By the way, I realize what youre doing is ALOT of work, so please dont interpret my proofreading as criticism.

*** Just wanted to mention: I was unable to get Online before- I noticed the green led for Cable was out on my cable modem. I unpluggd the power cord several times as RoadRunner, my broadband net provider suggested that I do. Didnt work. I then had no choice but to make an appointment with them to have someone sent over, and I was told that the next available time was Friday, Dec 26th! Aaaaaargh, no Internet, no emails, no AK etc.. until then?!! I think I'd go nuts!! I am also in the process of likely selling my AU-X1 with the Oscillaiton problem to someone who's interested in it who lives in Holland and so I need to get Online to be able to be in touch with this person, so its at this time of the Holiday season thats the worst possible time for me to lose my Online service.

Well, I did go outside the house to check the cables, not much I could do except make sure theyre tight and pull on them a bit, well..... if that helped or not I dont know, but luckily when I went back inside and tried my pc again, the green led on the cable model came back- Hooray!, I am SO relieved! Otherwise, I wouldve had to resign myself to being w/o the computer Online until the end of the following week.

Just wanted to mention this in the event it might reoccur and thus I would be unable to access AK and my emails, in case anyone was trying to reach me. Keeping my fingers crossed all will stay well.

B/F

Morden2004
12-20-2003, 04:52 PM
I found that Scotch and Hammer are great tools to keeping the cable modem on-line. You hit the hatch with the Scotch and the modem with the hammer :D

I don't know where the actual year range came from for my database (it might have been that one Sunday when site 'X' allowed use to 'view' their listings for free :dunno: ) but I show 1974-1979 as the years of manufacture for the 9090. Do you believe that is incorrect?

Paul

BeatleFred
12-20-2003, 05:16 PM
Hello again Paul,

I am referring to the section on your database site where you can view the list of serial numbers for any particular Sansui model. I didnt look over the whole thing, but when I was browsing thru the serial numbers for the 9090, I noticed the serial of one that is a January 74 model.

As I mentioned before, its highly doubtful that the 9090 was introduced by Sansui as early as the '74, let alone the very first month of '74. If that were the case, I am 99% positive that Sansui would have made a noticeable announcement about it in any hi fi magazine at the time (which I dont see) since the 9090 was truly a big step from all the receivers that came before it. The announcment about the new 9090 and 8080 models were shown in 1976 hi fi magazines that I have, and possibly late '75 magazines - I can recheck when I have the time. In '74 the main Sansui Receiver Line was the 881, 771.. Line along with Quad models like the QRX-7001 which you may notice, has similar knobs and pushbuttons on the front panel.

So, yes I do think the '74-'79 timeline is inaccurate. Most vintage models have a 2 year manufacturing lifespan, so thats the time increment I would choose and then as the s/n database grows with more entries, it can then be checked if there are any early and late models such as a late '75 and early '78 Sansui 7070 (which is the whole point of having the s/n database- to be able to verify the manufacturing dates). And as I also mentioned to you before, I would get hold of Bill Jahn's Sansui list since it is pretty accurate and then incorporate those dates for the manufacturing years in your database.

B/F

Morden2004
12-20-2003, 08:26 PM
I think your right about the usual 2 year mfg. runs and if you don't see announcements in 74 and 75 for these units - then its pretty certain I have the dates wrong *and* I have a bad s/n as well.

I'll dump that s/n and adjust the dates tomorrow.

Paul

crankitup99
12-23-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
Crankitup:

Thanks for that serial # - in fact any time you have a Sansui item in your bag, shoot me the number:D

I was watching that G-9700 auction :worried: - yup, I was thinking about bidding on that monster!

But, MBH would have cut my internet connection :rant: if I brought another piece of equipment into this place so I held myself back :dammit:

I'm still lusting after a G-9000 if I get a chance.

Paul hello paul got a few more #s for ya here goes g901- #819010004==== z-9000-#823041555===sp-x9900-941021584 and 941030161===sp3700a-94070909 and94071088===au717-228022905 thats on e-bay as we speak===au999-222070118 thats all for now i have more but in storage have a happy holiday regards the crankkker

Morden2004
12-24-2003, 05:28 AM
Hey, Crankkker ... so THAT'S where all the Sansui's went :D

Thanks for the numbers.

Paul

RocknRoll
12-24-2003, 06:15 AM
I have noticed the 1974 9090 and I too think it did not make sense because like B/F says that is odd and is to early for this series. Unfortunately, I expect there is going to be some innacurate numbers here either by mistake or intent.

Morden2004
12-24-2003, 06:48 AM
As long as you knowledgeable guys (& gals) check the numbers and report the ones that seem inaccurate, I can delete them (like I did for that example).

A lot of the numbers I get from eBay photos and since I use a magnifying glass to see some of them, mistakes will happen.

Paul

BeatleFred
12-24-2003, 12:47 PM
Paul:

There's probably no need to strain your eyes to check the s/n's of Ebay photos. If theyre a bit hard to make out, you can simply contact the Seller an ask for the #. If they are willing to post the s/n in an Ebay photo, then I see no reason why they'd object to sending it to you via email to use in the database. To save typing time, you can of course send out pre-written s/n request messages to Sansui Ebay sellers. If they dont respond, then they dont respond- no big deal. Even if thats the case and you may really want the #, can always ask the person who buys it after they receive the unit.

Happy Holidays,

B/F

BeatleFred
12-24-2003, 10:31 PM
For example, I'd be very interested to confirm the s/n on this unit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3067258565&category=14974

Why?- because it may be the earliest s/n of this model that Ive seen so far, which appears to be a June 75 model, though its a bit difficult to make out from the photo.

B/F

BeatleFred
12-24-2003, 10:35 PM
One thing that CAN be made out from the photo that the Seller overlooked to mention is that it was originally an overseas unit, Note the 220 Volt label in the back.

B/F

BeatleFred
12-24-2003, 10:43 PM
Ps- Please add this excellent AU-D11 II to your database, s/n clearly shown in photo:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066360988&category=3280

B/F

Morden2004
12-25-2003, 05:41 AM
I read that number from the CA-3000 as 227060014 :) - so I have emailed him for the 'real' number.

Paul

Morden2004
01-03-2004, 06:58 AM
Earphones? :rolleyes: Huh?

$123.99 for a pair of Sansui SS-20 earphones.

Check out the other Sansui sales in the Sansui Database (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

Paul

BeatleFred
01-03-2004, 03:11 PM
As much as I associate Sansui with alot of great hi fi items, I dont see these headphones as being worth that much $$. And in the scheme of vintage vs modern, I think modern is probably the way to go when buying headphones. I actually do have a pair of SS-20's that I got on Ebay a few years ago which I bought out of curiosity and they cost nowhere near the price that they just sold for (as you mentioned in the message above).

The SS-20's are big & bulky and I while I havent used them in a while, I dont recall them as having a particualrly good sound that would entice me to not use my AKG K240 or Grado SR-80's anymore. Sansui did make some other SS models in the later 70's which were smaller and more sleek & stylish looking (as shown in their catalogs), but I have yet to see any of these for sale Online.

Well, in my case, since I have owned my wonderful Infinity Renaissance 90 speakers for almost 3 years now, I have hardly used my headphones anymore :)

B/F

BeatleFred
01-03-2004, 03:14 PM
Ps- Paul, in the Search by Model #, I noticed a few typos. For example, you have an AU-717 listed as Nov 87 and my B-2301 as Feb 76. Please interchange the decades.

B/F

HiFi
01-03-2004, 03:39 PM
I too have a pair of SS-20's, complete with box, extension cord, product literature and warranty card. For $6 at Goodwill I couldn't pass them up. I'm glad they only cost $6 though. They're big, uncomfortable, and sound OK at best. Morden, what were the factors surrounding the $123 pair on e-bay? Did they include the box and everything else I listed? If so, I may have to join e-bay........that's a ridiculous price!

Morden2004
01-03-2004, 03:45 PM
[B/F] - I'll check those decade settings and fix.

HiFi: Yes, they were complete with the original box, literature and warranty card.

I have a pair of the SS-50 Sansui headphones (box & cords as well) and I find them to be quite excellent. That is, for a short time. They are heavy.

Paul

jvm23605
01-03-2004, 05:31 PM
Morden2004,
Have another serial number...QS-500, ebay, $40.51, 3 Jan 2004, #831081656
John

BeatleFred
01-03-2004, 05:55 PM
jvm- For future reference, if you see that I placed a bid on a Sansui item on Ebay, do you think its possible to let me know while the auction is running that you are also interested in the same item, instead of outbidding me? By letting me know ahead of time, then perhaps an arrangement can be made that is mutually agreeable for the brochure (xerox copy, scan etc). Otherwise, the result is that both me and you have to pay more for the item which obviously, only benefits the seller :) You would probably be more aware of that had I placed another bid to outbid you, but which I didnt do. As it turns out, after the auction ended, the seller contacted me to say he had another original brochure, so I was still able to acquire it. I realize you are certainly allowed to bid on whatever you wish to, but keep in mind, outbidding the Moderator of this forum is not exactly the way to get on his good side :)

Sincerely,

B/F http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3067880533&category=50594&rd=1

Morden2004
01-03-2004, 07:25 PM
[B/F] Fixed those decades.

jvm: Added your s/n.

Thanks for the feedback, both.

Paul

rastafari
01-04-2004, 03:35 AM
my contribution:
7070 - 216101550

cheers!

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 04:05 AM
Rastafari: It is now safe in the database.

Thanks,

Paul

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 11:33 AM
I have added a new database report - which will be of particular interest to BeatleFred.

This new report shows the Years of Manufacture by Model.

Caveat:
This is a new report using newly mined data. Therefore, it will have some errors until we clear up some issues about specific years of manufacture.

The data for this report, which is contained in a separate table, was gathered from 2 sources;

1) Actual YEARS from our serial numbers (reliability = 99%)
2) Model Write-ups from Audio Magazines (reliability = 75%)

Source # 2 is a very good way to identify some models for manufacturing but may suffer from a 1 year offset due to publishing ‘after production ceases’.

Anyway, the new report in now part of the reports on the Web page. Note, however, that there will be gaps in the years of manufacture due to the fact that we are reporting 'found' data. For example, G-6000 1976, 1978 has 1977 missing because we don't yet have a definitive source for that year. Of course it's just a reporting issue.

Also, this new report really shows where the serial number/starting Mfg years are off. I have my work cut out for me now. (Is this an example of a self-inflicted wound?)

Paul

Sansui Reports (http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html)

couch-flyer
01-04-2004, 12:16 PM
Morden I have 3 more Sansuis for your data base.

AU-417 219010080
TU-417 848121341
AU-217 037112381

I have owned the AU-217 & TU-417 since 1979.

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 12:22 PM
couch-flyer: They are now in the database. Thanks!

Paul

BeatleFred
01-04-2004, 02:33 PM
Hi Paul:

Keep up the good work, I find this s/n data to be very interesting. I didnt go over all the data yet with a finetooth comb, but I did a quick glance over it, there are some typos that I noticed in your Excel database- you have an AU-20K listed as Nov '85, change the 8 to make it '75 (entry #67). Ditto wrong decades for the C-2301 & C-2102 (entry #'s 161 & 162), they are from the 80's decade, not 70's.

Interesting to see some product overlap, for example, AU-D11 and D11 II made at same time, August 83.

Did you copy the s/n's of my equipment into the database?, I dont seem to see all of them. I had originally started this idea by having the #'s of my Sansui equipment posted at Dave Compton's Sansui site. Since Dave & I no longer associate with each other, I am not on his site but I believe the s/n database of my models is still there- so if you want, you can access it and copy the info into your database. Also, I did post the s/n of my D11 the other day on this site: 813050179 (May 83). I have the matching tuner, TU-S9, which must be a very early model, because the s/n on that one is: 210120880 (December 80).

As for the dates of manufacture, using the BA-5000 as an example: I am not sure why you have it listed as '76-'79. Both of mine which are already in your database, are '75 models. So, you should correct that '76 to make it '75. I have not seen any '78 or '79 BA-5000's so far. The latest is an April '77 that was on Ebay a while back, I saved it somwhere in my computer. So, I think the ending date of manufacture should be changed from '79 to '77. If a '78 or '79 shows up Online then it can always be changed back, but I would go with the two year system for now.

B/F

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 03:03 PM
[B/F]

Thanks for the boost.

I did import all of Dave C's serial number data - so I don't know why any of your number would be missing. If it's not too much trouble, can you PM me with a list of missing s/n's?

As for those manufacturing dates you see in the general report - the ones that are shown in the 'Years' column, they are used as report data only. They are not used to set the dates I decode from the serial numbers. The key field for that decoding is an internal field that I don't export on the Excel spreadsheet. It's called 'Decade'. That's the one I need to adjust for these;

there are some typos that I noticed in your Excel database- you have an AU-20K listed as Nov '85, change the 8 to make it '75 (entry #67). Ditto wrong decades for the C-2301 & C-2102 (entry #'s 161 & 162), they are from the 80's decade, not 70's.


where the 'Decade' for the AU-20000 is set to [1976] which means that any serial number that I decode as '19x5' will be AFTER 1976 and therefore - 1985!! Same for the C-2301 which is set to [1974] and the C-2102 is set to [1974].

Sorry to be so long-winded but I want to make sure you know exactly how I do this so that we can communicate corrections better :D !

Now, I'll set that 'Decade' field for the AU-20K to [1975] and those C-2xxx to [1980] and re-run the reports in a minute. Check the results for me, please.

Slowly we are getting this baby in shape.

Paul

BeatleFred
01-04-2004, 03:23 PM
Paul:

Its possible that since Dave, being the "great" guy that he is, deleted my s/n's from the database on his site. Since, I cannot access his site anymore, I'm unable to verify that.

Well, I picked a few of my Sansui's at random, I dont have the time now to go thru them all, but here are 3. If they are not on Dave's site, then its likely he deleted the s/n's I contributed. At the time that I listed my s/n's on his site, most of the entries in the list were those of my units, there were only a few other people that had yet contributed to the list.

9090DB: 817062852 (June 77)

7070: 237112250 (Nov 77)

G-7700: 819030294 (March 79)

B/F

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 03:37 PM
I will check his site and see if I can find these numbers.

Paul

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 03:44 PM
Dave did not delete your numbers; there are some 26 listed.

I will check later to see if all are in my database.

Paul

BeatleFred
01-04-2004, 04:00 PM
That I own 26 Sansui models sounds about right, maybe even a few more since then :)

Well, you can check whats on the List and see if there's any missing such as the 3 in the previous example I gave you. Some items I did sell, such as the AU-X1 and AU-20000 I had, but the s/n is still valid of course.

B/F

Morden2004
01-04-2004, 05:23 PM
Well, I am devastated! There were 54 serial numbers missing in my database from the import file I downloaded from the Yahoo ClassicSansui forum database. That is unacceptable.

[B]I have fired the programmer. He was whining about ‘too little pay and not enough time’ but I just sent his ass packing anyway.

Now that I have fixed it we have:

# of Models
944
# of Prices
1424
# of Serial Numbers
376


Please check to see if your product serial numbers are listed now. If there are any missing, I can get his sorry ass back in here tonight and make him enter all those number by hand! :D

Paul

jvm23605
01-04-2004, 07:15 PM
I am truly sorry if I infringed upon the realm of the Moderator....oh boo hoo, boo hoo...I guess I should be warned beforehand, but I needed that brochure too. Hey, its only a little thing on ebay...your more experience bidding on the'bay then I, alas I am only a rookie here...but, kidding aside, I have a friend over the river from me who would find great use for the item and I bidded for him. he maintains and refurbishes high quality audio and video equipment, for resale on the 'bay. I bought off of it for a pair of Sansui SP-X8000, almost a "9" in looks and sound quality...so I am going to do anything I can to thank him for supporting me in my quest. BF, i won a QS-500 just for the black knobs, and will give him the remaining for his resale on the 'bay.
I will try not to overbid anyone from AK, or "the best of Sansui" where you are a Moderator also.

BeatleFred
01-04-2004, 07:40 PM
Sarcasm aside in your comments, I reiterate by saying its not like you cant bid and have the item at all. If you were aware of the fact that I am the Moderator of this forum and saw that I bid on the item first, then perhaps the thought wouldve come to your mind that I have a good use for the brochure. Such as to use the information in there to help answer questions that people ask on this forum about their Sansui models. Had you atleast asked me beforehand about the brochure, I think you couldve saved us both some $$, but whats done is done.

B/F :king:

Morden2004
01-06-2004, 10:49 AM
have you seen the new (since yesterday) Sansui report #14 'years of Manufacture'? Here's a sample:

[B]Sansui - Years of Manufacture Tuesday, January 06, 2004

8080DB 1976 1977

881 1974 1975

9090 1975 1976 1977

9090DB 1976 1977 1978

as it now distributes the years of manufacture across in columns positionally (doesn't work here in AK forums, though) so that they line up vertically.

Have a look.

Paul

Morden2004
01-06-2004, 01:47 PM
like roses!!

This afternoon I scanned all the Sansui listings on eBay (more that 400 folks!!) looking for serial numbers.

Most days I'm lucky to be able to find 10, and be able to read 5!

Today, I found more that 30 that I could actually read! And, several were first-time models!

B/F, open a beer and start reading :D as we now have more than 400 serial numbers in the database.

Paul

BeatleFred
01-06-2004, 04:09 PM
Hi Paul:

A beer sounds like a great idea to me, however, I think I'll need one to relax myself after having a very busy day at Work and also going thru alot of problems and hassles in trying to get my car's carburetor problems fixed. The garage wasnt able to fix it and so the $$ I put into having other repairs done is wasted time & money as far as I'm concerned if the carburetor cant be fixed and the car cant run reliably again without stalling out.

Looks like I might have to contact my credit card company to dispute the $ charge on my latest car repair bill.

Anyone know what kind of tax write-off I can get on an '87 Honda Accord DX 4dr, automatic, sedan if I decide to give the car away free to charity? I usually just fill out the EZ form every year, so if I donate the car, do any tax-savvy people here know how I can do it in the most beneficial way?

B/F

Morden2004
01-06-2004, 04:16 PM
Ouch. Car troubles are the worst.

Sorry I can't help - Canada has different rules, eh.

Paul

couch-flyer
01-06-2004, 07:49 PM
B/F, Have you thought about buying a rebuilt carb and installing it yourself? I did it to a Ford Ranger, and I was impressed how much improvement was made.

crankitup99
01-06-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
like roses!!

This afternoon I scanned all the Sansui listings on eBay (more that 400 folks!!) looking for serial numbers.

Most days I'm lucky to be able to find 10, and be able to read 5!

Today, I found more that 30 that I could actually read! And, several were first-time models!

B/F, open a beer and start reading :D as we now have more than 400 serial numbers in the database.

Paul hello paul a little more of the crankkkkers stash a g-9000====818040598 ===== another pair of sp-3700a sansui speakers who do you know that owns 2 pairs of these? heh heh here we go 94070647 and 94070899, have a good one paul and as usual keep up the good work,regards the crannnnkkkkker

crankitup99
01-06-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by crankitup99
hello paul a little more of the crankkkkers stash a g-9000====818040598 ===== another pair of sp-3700a sansui speakers who do you know that owns 2 pairs of these? heh heh here we go 94070647 and 94070899, have a good one paul and as usual keep up the good work,regards the crannnnkkkkker just had to add a footnote got a little canned heat fried hocky boogie kicking to the g-9000 sansui got them grinding on 2 pair of kenwood kl999x delights and of course a cold beverage sir its my duty as a consummmer!!!!!!!!!!!!! regards the crankkkker

crankitup99
01-06-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by crankitup99
just had to add a footnote got a little canned heat fried hocky boogie kicking to the g-9000 sansui got them grinding on 2 pair of kenwood kl999x delights and of course a cold beverage sir its my duty as a consummmer!!!!!!!!!!!!! regards the crankkkker hello paul didnt i remember you saying ya needed a g-9000 heh heh trgards the crannkkker

Morden2004
01-07-2004, 04:34 AM
crankkker: That had better be Canadian beer, buddy :D

Of course, out of the kindness of our Canadian hearts we allowed U.S. beer manufacturers to brand that wattery stuff you produce with the name beer. :yippy:

Paul

PS: Thanks for the s/n's!!

Morden2004
01-07-2004, 04:36 AM
:worried: :worried: :worried: :worried: :worried:

<< envy >>

G-9000 :yes: Damn, so close to Christmas - what were you thinking?

fliphandywork
01-07-2004, 10:07 AM
Sansui t-710 - 434031503
" " SE-510 - 474030022
" " A-910 - 464027097

What year were those made?

Morden2004
01-07-2004, 12:23 PM
Excellent! All 3 were 1st time serial numbers. They are now recorded.


A-910 Integrated Amps

464027097 February, 1984


SE-510 Equalizers

474030022 March, 1984


T-710 Tuners

434031503 March, 1984

There are the results as taken from the Serial Number report witt the Month/Year they were manufactured.

Thanks,

Paul

fliphandywork
01-07-2004, 01:34 PM
Awesome! Glad I could contribute.

fliphandywork
01-07-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
The Sansui database now has:

882 models
527 eBay sales prices (thru 8:00 AM 2003/11/21)
138 serial numbers

Enjoy!

http://www.clarkeworks.com/Clarkeworks_Sansui.html


What are the totals up to now?

Morden2004
01-07-2004, 02:44 PM
Just visit the Sansui database page and it's that link at the top: **** Database Statistics *****

Here, I'll save you a few electrons; :D


Sansui Database Statistics as of: 07-Jan-04 2:16 PM

# of Models
946

# of Prices
1476

# of Serial Numbers
420

Paul

fliphandywork
01-07-2004, 02:51 PM
It's excellent to see that the numbers have risen dramatically since the creation of the database!

Morden2004
01-07-2004, 03:15 PM
it's amazing what 30 minutes a day will do :p:

It's a labour of love, I guess.

I will have to find someone else who has a server & Micro$oft IIS5 or 6 running though as I will be taking my server down in April while I build a new house and I may not be able to get it running for at least 2 or 3 weeks thereafter in a temporary location in Nova Scotia.

Once I'm built, I may be even worse off as - no cable where I'm building. I'll be on satellite for TV and ????? for internet. Maybe DSL but even that's iffy where I'll be located :dunno:

Paul

Bigyank
01-07-2004, 06:25 PM
Here is the serial number to my AU-11000:

216040347

RocknRoll
01-08-2004, 05:34 AM
9090DB on ebay serial # 828040585 - April '78 latest build so far!

Morden2004
01-08-2004, 07:28 AM
RnR: Thanks for the s/n. It's stored safely away :D

Paul

Just JP
01-08-2004, 04:53 PM
Here's the only useful piece of info I can offer. ;)

AU-D9 s/n 220110530

Hopefully over time I can absorb some knowledge and answer a question. :p:

Back to reading and learning.

Jim

Morden2004
01-14-2004, 07:57 AM
Jim:

Thanks for the s/n. Sorry I didn't get it sooner but for some reason AK has stopped notifying me when new posts arrive :confused:

It's been entered now.

Paul

BeatleFred
01-14-2004, 09:42 PM
Paul:

I was just curious to know, do you save the whole Ebay auction w/ photos or do you just take the s/n? A site like www.backflip.com seems ideal to use as a place to store unlimited data such as Ebay auctions.

I find the s/n database particularly interesting for the earliest and for the latest Sansui unit manufactured for any given model. And I think it would be good to save the auction/photos of these. Be interesing to know who has the distinction of owning either the earliest or latest known model so far. I say so far, because obviously more s/n 's will be added to the dbase, and that will cause changes to the earliest/latest models.

Regards,

B/F

Morden2004
01-15-2004, 09:49 AM
At the moment I just save the serial number - no additional info (other than the date/time I entered it).

Of course it would be no problem to add additional fields to that table but I have some issues with doing what you suggest.

First, is [B]time. It now takes me about 20 minutes to gather the eBay prices and probably another 20-30 minutes trolling for serial numbers. Entering prices is fairly fast as I only need to enter 2 items. Serial number entry is also fast with only 1 entry - but both $'s and the s/n entry requires me to first select the model, of course so thats one additional entry, I suppose.

If I were to also collect the source of the s/n and any photographs I used (sometimes it actually documented in the description !!) I can see where this 'job' would become somewhat onerous.

I did have a look at that site you mentioned (backflip) and it looks quite interesting. I actually read all the way through the user agreement (!!) and it leaves me with a bit of angst. I am certain at some future point they will be sued for infringement - how could they not??

Unless I'm missing something really basic, they store other copyright holders stuff on their servers (they specifically say it's not a link but actually the HTML page itself. They do protect themselves with boilerplate contract clauses and - if and when they find themselves stuck with a law suit, it's YOU the user who is actually on the hook for the action. Thats normal 'passing the risk' legaleese, but in their case I think the risk is actually real!

That said, I do agree though that having the data you mentioned would be valuable. I just can't see putting in that effort for what is a hobby activity.

What additional thoughts has my message prompted?

Paul (still keen and willing...)

BeatleFred
01-15-2004, 07:25 PM
Hi Paul:

Ive known about Backflip for a while but I havent scrutinized the site in terms of any legality issues that you had mentioned.

My suggestion to you about using Backflip was just an idea I had for the purpose of actually trying to make your database work easier (less time consuming). I was thinking you could simply just have all those Sansui Ebay auctions automatically stored on Backflip and then at some later time thats convenient for you, you can then go on Backflip, look thru all the saved information, and enter the s/n's in the d-base all in one session.

I dont understand why there would be any cause for concern about being sued or doing anything wrong. You are not stealing anything and you are not selling anything with the Sansui database information. So where is there a problem?

B/F

Morden2004
01-16-2004, 03:55 AM
[B/F]

I agree that your idea of saving the pages with the source of the serial number was a great idea. And, Backflip might be a good way to do it. Can we 'calatogue' the pages as we store them?

I was just being cautious as lately there have been some issues of copyright being infringed when you simply copy someones web page. It needs some investigation.

For example, what are the issues about copying an eBay logo and page text? You would be saving eBay copyrighted logos and text into the Backflip server.
Copyright © 1995-2003 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.
Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the eBay User Agreement and Privacy Policy.

The User Agreement, clause # 7 includes: Additionally, you agree that you will not: (i) take any action that imposes, or may impose in our sole discretion an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure; (ii) copy, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute or publicly display any content (except for Your Information) from the Site without the prior expressed written permission of eBay and the appropriate third party, as applicable; … so I’m not sure where we would fall in making copies of anything for our use. Perhaps if Backflip was just a private repository we would be within the letter of the agreement – but????

Another problem is that even saving the pages with Backflip won't actually save you the pictures as the pictures are, at least most of them are, just links to the eBay server (or other 3rd party servers) and they delete those images when the pages expire. Many sellers use off-site services like Picturelist.com and Andale.com to host their images. You would still have to actually 'save' each image one at a time to some sever area. I didn't check far enough into the Backflip process to see if they offer that capability - or is it just a <click> and save the page.

Perhaps you can checkout Backflip to see if those pages we save are strictly ‘ours’ or are they shareable by other Backflip users.

It's still a good option as long as we can assure ourselves that we are not open to anyone complaining about copyright infringement.

Paul

BeatleFred
01-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Well, anyone can send a copy of an auction as an email to themselves or to other people, so I dont see a big deal then to do similar by just sending a copy of the auction to Backflip and storing it there.
I was under the impression that if you send a copy of an auction via File, Send, Page as Email.. that any auction photos will be preserved, as opposed to when Ebay had the option 'Mail this auction to a friend' and the photos would eventually disappear from your saved email after Ebay deleted it from their Servers.

As for any copying infringement, I doubt there is much at all to worry about. The worst that could happen is they issue a Warning to stop and if you continue, THEN they might come after you. But as I mentioned before, no $$ profit is being made from this information at their expense, in which case, I'm pretty sure then there is no need to worry about being in violation of anything.

B/F

Morden2004
01-17-2004, 04:39 AM
[B/F]

Good points. I'll investigate how Backflip works this weekend and see what it might do for this project.

I'll get back to you Monday.

Paul

BlackDog
01-18-2004, 08:29 PM
Paul,
Here are the latest numbers on the back of the new machines. SE-9 443041344 -------G 7500 858101163-------G 9700 819061716

Morden2004
01-19-2004, 04:25 AM
Mmmmm, G-9700 mmmmmm (Homer-like sounds :D )

Thanks for the numbers they are now preserved for history.

Paul

Wideone
01-23-2004, 05:11 PM
Paul,

Add another 881 Serial to the list 026030275. It is absolutely starting with a "0" instead of the "8" one usually sees.


Randy

QuadBob
01-28-2004, 02:40 AM
Ok Paul,

Here's what I have since I started keeping a "log" of my restorations (wish I had done it from the very beginning!!):

QRX-9001 Receiver:

237010314
2361110493
237020381
236100327
238030443
237010052
237100428
238030128
237060206
237040333
237100167
237070709
237060141
237100842
237020399
238030125
236100060
237020383
237080294
237100323
237071189
237050248
237070048

QRX-999 Receiver:

237110023
236120079

QRX-8001 Receiver:

237070313
237050266

QRX-7001 Receiver:

234081037
235050657
235050648
234080621
245010318

QSD-1 QS Decoder/Synthesizer:

215120015
215110071
236080122
226030014
215120042
224110042
226030197

QSD-2 QS Decoder/Synthesizer:

246040014

QSD-1000 QS Decoder/Synthesizer:

215120434
216010206
216010216
2160100054
215120336

SE-9 Equalizer:

4430041238
4430041239

Note: Every quad guy should have consecutively numbered EQ's in his system! :D

I'll have to save the reel to reel decks and a few stragglers for another post!!:dunno:

BeatleFred
01-28-2004, 07:34 PM
Bob:

Perhaps you typed in an extra 0 in the SE-9 s/n's? (cant have 00 as a month). My SE-9's are 442100254 for the Silver (Oct 82) and 822050131 for the Black (May 82).

BTW Bob, how are things going w/ that AU-717 you're working on?

Regards,

B/F

QuadBob
01-29-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by BeatleFred
Bob:

Perhaps you typed in an extra 0 in the SE-9 s/n's? (cant have 00 as a month). My SE-9's are 442100254 for the Silver (Oct 82) and 822050131 for the Black (May 82).


You are of course correct Sir!! That's why I quit.......too tired to see or type straight! :(

The correct numbers are:

SE-9 Equalizer:

443041238
443041239

Still pretty cool that I lucked into consecutive numbers when I bought them brand spanking new in Okinawa, in 1983!




BTW Bob, how are things going w/ that AU-717 you're working on?

Regards,

B/F

Ah yes.........the venerable AU-717. I've got the parts on hand, but its on hold while I finish up some quadraphile restorations that I'm overdue on! Work, family and the rotation of the Earth just don't give me enough "fun" time!!!

I did notice that right now it seems to have a pretty low output.....almost "airy", and the front panel controls don't seem to have any affect at all!
Take a look at this picture:

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/50f21bfa/bc/Quadraphonic+Restorations+Xtraordinaire/__sr_/718f.jpg?phy8eGAB0hlOHExg

Morden2004
02-04-2004, 04:13 AM
QuadBob:

Well, I just got back from a nice vacation and what did I see:

a gi-normous list of QuadBob serial numbers :(

Thanks Bob (I think).... I will get these entered as soon as I catch up on some mail and eBay data.

Paul

qboneus
02-04-2004, 09:49 AM
Sansui 9090db- SN# 817100814
Sansui SP3500- sn's # 32011227/92010997

hopefully this is what you are looking for.

Tal

Morden2004
02-04-2004, 10:21 AM
qboneus:

Yes, and I have added them to the database.

Thanks

Paul

BeatleFred
02-07-2004, 11:38 AM
Paul- if you havent already done so, here's one to add, a tuner from November 87, soon after the logo change. (Minute Waltz now 59 3/4 seconds :)

B/F

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076775566&indexURL=4&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Morden2004
02-07-2004, 12:13 PM
[B/F].... OK, subtract 3/4 seconds. I missed that one.

It's in now.

BTW, did you see the new format for the Date Manufacture report - I added lines between the rows to make it easier to read.

Paul

popegordo
02-08-2004, 05:18 PM
ummmm... the 5500 model/serial number database is not correct... both receivers listed should be 1972, not 1982....just something i happened to come across.

:dunno:

Morden2004
02-08-2004, 05:39 PM
Popegordo: you get to wear the Eagle Eye button this week.

I'll fix that for tomorrow's reports. :rolleyes:

Thanks,

Paul

jvm23605
02-11-2004, 08:17 AM
Morden2004,

Received my Sansui TU-717, sn: 218081129 today. I bought it off of ebay for the total sum of $324.00.

John:uzi: :zoom: :dammit: :yippy:

jvm23605
02-11-2004, 07:39 PM
morden2004,
This evening, I received via UPS a Sansui AU-717 Intergrated Amplifier with Rack Mount Handles, that I purchased off of the
'bay for $299. The SN is #217110494. It is Fabulousily beautiful.
With the tuner I reported on before, this makes the 10 Sansui items in all. The newest items are an AV-77 A/V Controller, a 2004 Sansui 27" color TV, and a 2004 Sansui HSDVD4001 VHS/DVD Player.
Do you want the AV-77 SN as well?

John


:uzi:
:dunno:
:dunno:
:dammit:
:starwars:
:yippy:
:grnbounce
:beer:
:guitar:
:twak:
:whip:
:deal:
:pistols:
:pistols:
:yikes:

Morden2004
02-12-2004, 04:14 AM
jvm23605:

Congrats! A matched set. Both numbers are now in the vault!

And, yes, I've been saving A/V receiver numbers as well, but not VHS/CD players or TV's. Too damn many of them and no one is really interested.

Paul

BeatleFred
02-12-2004, 06:39 PM
Dont forget models & s/n's from Ebay Germany, such as this one from July 84:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3273291774&category=22509

B/F

jvm23605
02-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Morden2004,

When I receive the AV-77 and AX-7, I will provide the SN's to you. I can provide the prices right now if you want them...the AV-77 has cost me $55 off of the 'bay and the AX-7 cost me $85, an after sale from an 'bay sale that ended before I could bid on it, but I paid for it through Paypal, crediting the 'bay for the sale; but both of these prices do not count the shipping and handling costs.

John

QuadBob
02-15-2004, 01:42 PM
Ok........I'm trying to get the hang of dealing with the pictures here!




BTW Bob, how are things going w/ that AU-717 you're working on?

Regards,

B/F [/B]

Ah yes.........the venerable AU-717. I've got the parts on hand, but its on hold while I finish up some quadraphile restorations that I'm overdue on! Work, family and the rotation of the Earth just don't give me enough "fun" time!!!

I did notice that right now it seems to have a pretty low output.....almost "airy", and the front panel controls don't seem to have any affect at all!
Take a look at this picture:

Johnny
02-15-2004, 01:58 PM
I think I see your problem QB. You have no friggen speakers hooked up to eet !! Duh.

J :D :D

QuadBob
02-15-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Johnny
I think I see your problem QB. You have no friggen speakers hooked up to eet !! Duh.

J :D :D

You're right of course!!!!:puke:

I've been testing it with headphones........but for some reason I don't get much out of them either!:dunno:

It is however, much easier to move on and off the bench like this!:D

oldmarantz
02-16-2004, 12:50 PM
one more for the database this TU-217 I found at the flea market on Saturday s/n 028091537 This one works great for a such little tuner:cool:

Morden2004
02-16-2004, 01:16 PM
Nice find!! I have added it to the database.

BTW, this unit came from Europe - or at least from somewhere with 220VAC power.

Paul

oldmarantz
02-17-2004, 03:32 AM
Hi Paul

Yes this unit is an european one but on a card inside near the transformer you can adjust the voltage for 110 or 220 v

Dominic

Army
02-17-2004, 07:29 AM
Hi Paul
One more for the data base G-22000 I purchased private party for $275.00 last year. It needed repair and is now up and running :D s/n 238050062 238050059
Great Job on the Database ! Army

Morden2004
02-17-2004, 08:28 AM
Wow! Am I envious? A G-22000 :pity:

As I have said many times, the Sansui G-xxxxx series are the most beautiful receivers ever designed. Period.

I will add the serial number(s) to the database.

But, I now have a question for [B/F]; B/F how do we (I) handle these 2-box units? Should we only record 1 s/n or both?

Paul

zem
02-17-2004, 09:39 AM
Hi Morden -- I'm too damn lazy to read this whole thread -- should I be informing you of the serial numbers for the Sansui equipment I own or something?

Morden2004
02-17-2004, 11:51 AM
Hey Zem: Good thing you didn't read it all - I'd have to charge you double :D

Yes, we'd like your Sansui serial numbers. It's voluntary but it helps us with our research into what was made when.

Have you visited the Sansui Database reports page? If not, then scoot on over there and have a look. The link is in the opening message on pg. 1

Paul

zem
02-17-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Morden2004
Hey Zem: Good thing you didn't read it all - I'd have to charge you double :D

Yes, we'd like your Sansui serial numbers. It's voluntary but it helps us with our research into what was made when.

Have you visited the Sansui Database reports page? If not, then scoot on over there and have a look. The link is in the opening message on pg. 1

Paul

COOL! Homework! :D

Just JP
02-17-2004, 12:25 PM
Here's one more for you. TU-D55X S/N 434084087

I just got it and I think it sounds quite nice.

Jim

Morden2004
02-17-2004, 04:38 PM
Army; Just JP:

Your serial numbers are now 'in the vault' :D

Paul

CDFixer
02-17-2004, 04:54 PM
[QUOTE]Morton2004 wrote It appears that the February eBay blahs are in full swing. There were a significantly higher number of Reserve Not Met items over the weekend. Most of the exotic items sold due to the bidding interest but a couple of Sansui collectors had 'excessive' reserves set and bidding didn't even get close to the reserve.


I was one of those that had a reserve that was not met. A bidder that had reached my reserve on Tuesday, withdrew his bid on Saturday, because he was bidding of two different units and won the one that ended earlier than mine. Really screwed me as this returned the bid to a really low value with no time to get it back up.

:uzi: To those guys that don't understand the rules.

Morden2004
02-17-2004, 05:03 PM
Jim:

I'm sorry you got hit by a bidder a few morals short of pond scum.

I just don't know how people can be so flippant about a moral contract that is implied by these auctions.

No easy way out of that bind, unfortunately.

You can always watch for him/her in action and retaliate :D









Naw, I guess not.

$@*f#! :wtf: Because then OUR morals go out the window :puke2:


Paul

Tullman
02-17-2004, 05:48 PM
Here are the serial numbers for my

TU9900--835070033

AU20000--237020282

The numbers in the AU20000 were quite faded so I could be wrong on it.

Morden2004
02-18-2004, 03:27 AM
Tullman:

Thanks for the s/n's.

BTW, the AU-20000 was already registered. Was it an eBay purchase?

Paul

Tullman
02-18-2004, 09:44 AM
I am not proud to say it was an ebay purchase. I payed too much for it. The person who sold it too me was not forthcoming and is a liar, or was not the owner of the unit. I was told by the tech that someone had tried to repair the unit and that person was a hack. Not only that but it cost me $180.00 to get it functioning properly. I was in the process of moving when I purchased the AU20000 and didn't use it for any extended period of time. It took a few days of use for things to start showing up, we're talking about months after the purchase.

Fortunately, the unit has refurbished properly and is functioning beautifully now. Buying electronics on ebay is like buying someone else's problems. The tech also told me that the unit probably had problems from the beginning and therefore was hardly used, in other words everything on or in the unit was like new.

zem
02-18-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by CDFixer
I was one of those that had a reserve that was not met. A bidder that had reached my reserve on Tuesday, withdrew his bid on Saturday, because he was bidding of two different units and won the one that ended earlier than mine. Really screwed me as this returned the bid to a really low value with no time to get it back up.

:uzi: To those guys that don't understand the rules.

To be certain -- I've been one of those guys who suddenly found himself purchasing two units instead of one, because I bid on more than one unit and won them both.

I've been burned SO MANY times by last second bidders who "stole" the item from me at the last second by bidding 50¢ more than I bid ...

Still, I ALWAYS come through and never renege (sp?) on my bids -- it's not fair to the Seller ...

BeatleFred
02-18-2004, 09:17 PM
Hi Paul:

Actually, thats something that never occured to me- the G-22000 & G-33000, both comprised of two sections, have two s/n's?, interesting. I wouldve thought just one s/n. Hey, double your pleasure :)

B/F

CDFixer
02-18-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by zem
To be certain -- I've been one of those guys who suddenly found himself purchasing two units instead of one, because I bid on more than one unit and won them both.

I've been burned SO MANY times by last second bidders who "stole" the item from me at the last second by bidding 50¢ more than I bid ...

Still, I ALWAYS come through and never renege (sp?) on my bids -- it's not fair to the Seller ...


Thanks Zem, Its nice to find some honest folks out there.

jvm23605
02-19-2004, 07:11 PM
:uzi:
:dammit:
:yippy:
:withstpd:
:bash:
:whip:
:hdphones:
:sing:
:pistols:
Morden2004,
here are the latest purchases, their date of buy, their name, and serial numbers:
9 Feb, 2004 Sansui AX-7 Mixer 910020153
5 Feb, 2004 Sansui AV-77 A/V Controller 605011376
John
:uzi:

BeatleFred
02-20-2004, 10:54 PM
Paul: Here's another early 919 with spring clip terminals, looks to be a Nov 78 unit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3079813788&category=3280

B/F

Morden2004
02-21-2004, 02:12 AM
John:

Thanks for the s/n's.

[B/F]:

I looked at that listing and I can't find any pictures? Where did you see a s/n?

Paul

couch-flyer
02-21-2004, 09:27 AM
I am going to bid on this unit.
Here is the photo w/the serial number.

lorne
02-21-2004, 09:41 AM
AU Alpha 707 Extra: 439033865;
price - 15,000 yen

BeatleFred
02-21-2004, 10:18 AM
Greetings Lorne,

Nice to see a member here from Sansui's home country. How do you like your 707? There was a 907 on Ebay recently, beautiful amp, but that auction (#3075802245) turned out to be a fake.

Regards,

B/F

Morden2004
02-21-2004, 10:56 AM
Lorne:

Many thanks for that serial number. It is now locked securely in the Sansui Database lock-up :D


Fred:

Ya could have actually listed that serial number for me in your message - instead of letting me ruin my eyesight trying to see that wee'ny number :dunno: You know I'm getting old. :lmao:

If I see it correctly, it is: 228110322 making it the earliest AU-919 we have ever seen. Do you agree with my reading of that serial number?


Paul

PS: I just re-ran the reports so you can check my accuracy :D

couch-flyer
02-21-2004, 11:34 AM
Paul,

I think the serial number is 228119322

Mike

BeatleFred
02-21-2004, 11:41 AM
Hi Paul:

Yes, that looks like the s/n to me. Sorry for not typing out the s/n for you but I'm in a bit of a hurry to get to all the messages here because my cable modem is acting up- the green cable light seems to be going on/off every 5 minutes and thus my Net connection as well, very annoying. I'm waiting on hold on the phone w/ RoadRunner to speak to their Tech Support about it. But if the line itself outside is bad, I'll probably have to wait a few days until they can send someone over to check out the problem.

B/F

QuadBob
02-21-2004, 11:59 AM
Hey Paul,

Here's my two newest additions:

Sansui G-871db receiver: 819100049

Sansui SR-929 Turntable: 318020416

WooHoo!!:D

Morden2004
02-21-2004, 12:24 PM
Fred:

Now I'm unsure between 228110322 and 228119322. You make the call - my eyes + magnifying glass can't decide.



Bob:

WooHoo is right! :D An SR-929. What luck. I had my eye on one a short time ago but it got way too expensive in a hurry. Damn.

Numbers have been added.

Thanks

Paul

oldmarantz
02-21-2004, 12:38 PM
I wiil say 228110332...:confused:

couch-flyer
02-21-2004, 01:02 PM
Paul,

Two cassette decks: SC2110 - 598070259
SC3330 - 259110402

Mike

Morden2004
02-21-2004, 01:05 PM
BTW, Bob, we'll be down your way for our annual Southern California Battery Recharge trip on the 15th of March, staying only 8 days this year.

We have good friends (Canadians - both working in US) who live in Carlsbad and we'll be wintering with them in future years - as soon as my wife decides she's had enough of refugee matters and the Canadian Government :(

Paul

PS: Geez, I just realized I'll have to install some vintage Sansui equipment in the Carlsbad house in a couple of years. Otherwise I'll have Sansui withdrawl issues to deal with :D

QuadBob
02-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Morden2004
BTW, Bob, we'll be down your way for our annual Southern California Battery Recharge trip on the 15th of March, staying only 8 days this year.

We have good friends (Canadians - both working in US) who live in Carlsbad and we'll be wintering with them in future years - as soon as my wife decides she's had enough of refugee matters and the Canadian Government :(

Paul

PS: Geez, I just realized I'll have to install some vintage Sansui equipment in the Carlsbad house in a couple of years. Otherwise I'll have Sansui withdrawl issues to deal with :D


Well if you need a quick "fix" and can sneak off for a while, you're welcome to visit. Carlsbad is only about 30 minutes
from my home in Spring Valley (depending on traffic). You'll see
more vintage Sansui equipment than should be allowed in one room! :D You might leave quadraphonically challenged though!

I'm often in Carlsbad/Oceanside for my "regular" work as I cover the entire San Diego County. Just drop me a PM or email if you want to arrange a get together!:) And, DO NOT pack any of that cold Canadian air.....leave it at home where it belongs!!:D

BeatleFred
02-21-2004, 02:11 PM
I'll try and take another look at the 919 s/n and see if I can make it out though I dont have a magnifying lens at my disposal. Another option is just to email the seller (via Ebay's 'ask the seller' link) and he could confirm the #. My main interest in s/n's # is the Year/Month and I'm pretty sure that part is November 78.

Well, rather than wait until Wednesday for Road Runner to come to the house as I was told on the phone, I decided to take matters into my own hands and go there with the old cable modem and exchange it for a new one. Got back home a little while ago, hooked it up, and I'm glad to say everthing seems to be fine again.

B/F

Morden2004
02-21-2004, 03:49 PM
QuadBob:

You're on! What Canadian-based liquor do you like? I'll pack it where the Customs people can't find it :D .


PM me with your local phone number so I can contact you when I'm 'feet dry'.

Paul

couch-flyer
02-21-2004, 05:49 PM
I asked the seller what the serial number is. He responded by asking why. I e-mailed the seller, telling him to determine date the amp was made. He hasn't responded. Once he sends me the serial number I'll post it.

Cheers,
Mike

lorne
02-21-2004, 06:47 PM
... that is EXACTLY what is on the tag at the back except alpha is written as the Greek letter. just underneath that, in katakana, it says purimainuampu [pre-main amp] There is a postal symbol [this designates a number as a zip code applicable to area] and then a small sticker carrying the word AZUMI in romaji. I can't find a town or city listed under this name, and I cannot see it in a large area map of Yokohama — I think the home of Sansui.

Your friend's sansui.us site I believe has a jpg of this model along with the 607. The AZUMI sticker shows up in his pics somewhere.

I cannot as yet give you output per channel. It is rated at 100V, 50/60 Hz, 330 watts.

There are power amp direct balanced plugs x2 =1 pair IN. Processor send and receive. DAT and tape in and out play and record. CD, video, tuner, phono (switchable at front for MC & MM) AC out and earthing point.

Thanks for your efforts.

couch-flyer
02-21-2004, 07:26 PM
Paul,

The seller told me the serial number is: 228110332

Mike

Morden2004
02-22-2004, 05:40 AM
Lorne:

That is definitely a different model - I was confusing it with an AU-707. I can now add that model to the database.


Mike:

Thanks for taking the trouble to confirm that serial number. I had guessed correctly!

Paul

lorne
02-22-2004, 08:34 AM
There is an excellent page in regards to the Sansui 07 series in Japanese put out by Mr K. Nishi.

http://page.freett.com/knisi/sansui07.htm

(He has done others in regards to tuners.) There is more info than you probably hoped for.

These are some specs from the page for your data base, not all of which may be applicable:

Effective output
160W + 160W (10Hz - 20kHz, 6 ?)
130W + 130W (10Hz - 20kHz, 8 ?)

Dynamic power
210W (6 ?), 320W (4 ?) and 405W (2 ?)

Total height harmonic wave distortion factor
?????????????????????????????

Frequency characteristic
DC - 300kHz (+ 0 dB, - 3 dB)

???
120 dB (A network)

Through late
± 200V/? s

Rise time
0.5 ? S

Take a look at the late model 907's. ... make your eyes bleed with envy.

PS: Got some problems with the source selector switches on the 707 — stuff for another thread

Morden2004
02-22-2004, 08:55 AM
Lorne:

Are you translating :dunno: because I can fill in some of those blanks by guessing;

Effective output
160W + 160W (10Hz - 20kHz, 6 ohms)
130W + 130W (10Hz - 20kHz, 8 ohms)

Dynamic power
210W (6 ohms), 320W (4 ohms) and 405W (2 ohms)

Total Harmonic Distortion
... something like less than 0.00x % at or below rated minimum RMS power

Hum and Noise
120 dB (A network)

Slew Rate
± 200V/usec (microsecond)

Rise time
0.5 usec (microsecond)

Paul

lorne
02-22-2004, 11:38 AM
Hi Morden: I used an online translator. It spews out things which are nearly incomprehensible on the subjective lines, but fortunately? many of my students write the same way, so sometimes I can catch the drift http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/newreply.php?action=newreply&threadid=11695&#

I am ashamed to say that even after ten years in Japan I am still illiterate in kanji. And translating electronics data has a miserabley low SAF factor in this house.

Looks like you did OK on the fill-ins where the translation machine failed to work it out.

Thanks

cabinover
02-23-2004, 05:53 PM
Paul,
Here's a couple more for your data
QRX 7001-235030212, rescued from the dump in mid-air Saturday, almost had me going in after it:D

G9000DB- 818100848, my baby, no it's not for sale, paid way too much, $200 when some guy traded it in for one of those box thingies!!!:)

Bob

Morden2004
02-24-2004, 05:10 AM
Bob:

Thanks for the numbers - and you can never pay too much for a Sansui G-series receiver!! :D

Paul

popegordo
02-27-2004, 03:27 PM
just picked up a model 771 for 31 bucks on Ebay 2/13/04

S/N is 824121080

:guitar:
rock it!

couch-flyer
02-27-2004, 05:33 PM
I picked up a new AU-417 sn: 229020540

Cheers,
Mike

Morden2004
02-27-2004, 07:21 PM
Popegordo & Mike:

Thanks, they are registered.

Paul

jvm23605
02-29-2004, 04:25 AM
hi morden2004,
unless b/f (:beerchug:) has showed you already, I bought off of ebay a Sansui 1971 Catalog (:yippy:) and its price list for sales from Pacex (:bash:) and the Navy Exchange (:twak:).
The below are a sampling of the :uzi: "original" prices only:
MODEL PACEX CATALOG # TOTAL PRICE TO
ZONE 8 (edt)
SD-7000 497-395-461 $383.05
8 269.75
7000 239.40
5000X 497-543-281 212.80
4000 497-543-291 185.60
AU 999 184.20
AU 888 162.80
AU 666 132.90
TU 999 153.30
TU 888 116.30
TU 666 87.60
RA 500 497-541-581 53.60
SP 5000 497-551-681 147.25
SP 70 50.40
SS-20 497-530-621 20.65

In reference to the (:dammit:) prices off of ebay, these are quite low. Even I was surprised in the difference that sellers are quoting as their "original" selling prices were, and the REALITY (:whip:) shown above.
John

Morden2004
02-29-2004, 05:14 AM
John:

Interesting. I went thru the database matching the model and comparing the original MSRP (where available in our database) and here's the comparison;

SD-7000 $383.05 $680
7000 239.40
5000X 497-543-281 212.80 $400
4000 497-543-291 185.60 $380
AU 999 184.20 $300
AU 888 162.80 $290
AU 666 132.90
TU 999 153.30 $280
TU 888 116.30
TU 666 87.60 $160
RA 500 53.60 $150
SP 5000 147.25
SP 70 50.40
SS-20 497-530-621 20.65

If I understand correctly, what you have it is an Armed Services Price List for the BX?

Paul

CDFixer
02-29-2004, 09:24 AM
I purchased my First 8080DB overseas (Thule Greenland) in 1978, for $325.00, when I returned for leave I checked the prices in the states and they were betewwn 700-725 depending on where they were purchased. The 9090DB (Which I should have bought) was only $375.00 but that 50 bucks was a lot for a GI in '78. The 9090DBs were selling in the states for about 900.00.:D

BlackDog
02-29-2004, 10:00 AM
While were on this subject perhaps someone can refresh my memory. I bought my QRX 5500 from an Air America pilot in I think 1972 but I don't remember what I paid. The package speakers, reciever, Akai 4 channel reel to reel and turntable was around 1300 dollars. We had to borrow the money from the bank. Our parents thought we were nuts. The s/n on the 5500 is 234060071 still have it (but it's not alone)

BeatleFred
02-29-2004, 12:15 PM
According to the s/n you provided, yours is a June 74 unit.

B/F

BlackDog
02-29-2004, 02:55 PM
Well that's step one in the recall process

HiFi
02-29-2004, 03:03 PM
Morden, here's one more for ya, a non-working Goodwill score today.

SC-5330 cassette deck
s/n 250070468

jvm23605
02-29-2004, 08:32 PM
hifi,
Is that black or silver?
I have a working silver SC-5300, that I want to trade for either a working black SC-5300 or SC-5330.
John

jvm23605
02-29-2004, 08:41 PM
Morden2004,
The price list provided by Sansui in the "Sansui High Fidelity Stereo Components" catalog state in item #2 on the bottom of the folded over four page price listing:
Items indicated in red are available through PACEX Mail Order Section, J.R.E., APO 96232. To order, use a PACEX mail order form.
#3 states:
All items, except SP-5000, are available through Navy Exchange Mailing Service. Code 700 (MOD), FPO Seattle 98762. To order, use a Navy Exchange Mailing Service order form. If the form is not available, write to Sansui.
The catalog provides Prices and Mailing information for Sansui Products in the Pacific Area.
John

PS: The catalog gives a concise two page overview of their QS sound system and how it works. :smsex:

HiFi
03-01-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by jvm23605
hifi,
Is that black or silver?
I have a working silver SC-5300, that I want to trade for either a working black SC-5300 or SC-5330.
John
It is a black unit. It is a beast of a tape deck, but unfortunately, I think it is out of commission permanently unless I can find a good parts unit. Numerous problems with the playback system.:( I'm gonna hang on to it for a while, just in case I run across another. I could probably double my investment in it so far by selling just the rack handles that were on it, so I'm not too bummed.

couch-flyer
03-01-2004, 08:08 PM
Hi Paul,

I have a new serial number for you. TU-317; 028120732

Cheers,
Mike

jvm23605
03-01-2004, 08:13 PM
HiFi
I would take it, and switch the body for mine, so all my system would be black. but I know that it would be very costly, and problaby damage both beyond repair. So I'll stick with my silver model...and only hope that I can find a working 5300 or 5330 with a black body.
Later, John

Morden2004
03-02-2004, 04:06 AM
couch-flyer:

Thanks for the s/n.

Paul

CDFixer
03-07-2004, 06:11 PM
How about getting this thread, a sticky at the top of the Exclusively Sansui Posts.

Morden2004
03-08-2004, 06:08 AM
I second that motion! :D

:yippy:

sufferbus
03-08-2004, 06:05 PM
...

Morden2004
03-09-2004, 07:25 AM
sufferbus:

Thanks.

Paul

joelll
03-09-2004, 10:13 AM
What a fabulous way to procrastinate... seeking out the serial numbers on my Sansui collection.


222060001 -- Eight receiver
020129746 -- 4000 receiver
820110849 -- 350a receiver
233020677 -- TU-505 tuner
605120804 -- T-700 tuner

EDIT: Ooo! I forgot prices:

Eight receiver -- free
4000 receiver -- $17
350a receiver -- free
TU-505 tuner -- $10
T-700 tuner -- $10

The Eight is powering my livingroom system, the 4000 is in my study playing as I type, the 350a is waiting for some lamps and a purpose in life, the TU-505 needs lamps and cleaning, and the T-700 tuner has memory problems and is kinda cheesy and plasticky.

The Eight has my favorite serial number. :)


Joel

Morden2004
03-09-2004, 11:02 AM
Joelll:

Nice collection! The s/n's are now locked away in the database.

Thanks,

Paul

qboneus
03-09-2004, 11:23 AM
au-11000
S/N 216040347
Price paid $300

What kind of info can be told by the sn of this unit?

Thanks,
Tal

BeatleFred
03-09-2004, 09:09 PM
Tal- April 1976.

B/F

BeatleFred
03-09-2004, 09:13 PM
Joel:

About that Eight receiver, do you know of any places that sell the detachable line cord? There are some places that sell cords that are ALMOST the right size, but not quite, the last one I obtained, I thought it was the right size, but when I plugged it into the socket on back of the Eight, it was just a wee bit too big to fit. (reminds me of what many women have told me :)

B/F :king:

1420-1503
03-10-2004, 01:19 PM
Hello, here is the serial number of my cd player:

Model
CD-X701i

Serial nr
327122023

Date
December, 1987 ?

Price paid
€150 (earlier this year 2004)

cheers!


ps, When I have more time I will add those of my amplifiers and tuners too.

1420-1503
03-10-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by qboneus
au-11000
S/N 216040347
Price paid $300

What kind of info can be told by the sn of this unit?

Thanks,
Tal

The date, and..?

your serial says if I read well

April, 1976

I'm also new at this

Morden2004
03-10-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by 1420-1503
Hello, here is the serial number of my cd player:

Model
CD-X701i

Serial nr
327122023

Date
December, 1987 ?

Price paid
€150 (earlier this year 2004)

cheers!


ps, When I have more time I will add those of my amplifiers and tuners too.

Thanks. I have added this serial number to the database.

Paul

Eilati
03-10-2004, 03:39 PM
Hi,
Here is the info on my Sansui AU-999

Unit: AU-999
SN: 021080380
Price Paid: $104.77

The blue tape is on the outside.

Eilati
03-10-2004, 03:43 PM
Here is the front

1420-1503
03-10-2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Eilati
Here is the front

GORGIOUS stuff! And I thought my D9 looked good.

1420-1503
03-11-2004, 04:46 PM
Eventhough you've all been waiting for the serials of some of my super mint equipment, I had to be real creative to get them, and I had no choice but to work with small mirrors to read the little numbers, but here they are for you finally:

THE SERIALS OF MY AU-D9 / TU-S9 COMBO!

Integrated Amp:

TYPE
AU-D9

SERIAL
822110571

DATE
Novermber, 1982

"QUARTZ PLL SYNTHESIZER TUNER":

TYPE
TU-S9

SERIAL
813030262

DATE
March, 1983

Both are still glossy as new, they're real stars and like to be photographed!! Never seen them look so good on any auction pictures.

So what's the sound like?
Warm and natural, no loudness knob and doesn't seem to need it. Although rated more watts I believe then the AU-717, it doesn't sound nearly as powerfull. (still powerfull though..compared to all other brands :) ) Sounds sweeter then the Arcam alpha amp I used to have.
The inside doesn't look like a jewel like the AU-717 that I'm also fortunate to own.
It's a very good amplifier, and the TU-S9 a very good tuner indeed!

Serial of that one for next time! [for my AU-717 I mean!]

Morden2004
03-11-2004, 04:59 PM
Being the owner of an AU-999 myself I agree that it's pretty nice looking MacI'ish Sansui gear!

1420, I have your serial numbers locked away. They will appear in tomorrow's edition of the Sansui Database reports :D

Paul

1420-1503
03-12-2004, 02:05 AM
I.E.Amp:

TYPE
AU-717

SERIAL
217110687

DATE
November, 1977

Analogue Tuner:

TYPE
TU-717

SERIAL
847061232

DATE
June, 1977

Morden2004
03-12-2004, 03:16 AM
1420:

OK, thanks for the additional 2 s/n's.

Paul

1420-1503
03-13-2004, 04:07 AM
Here's a Sansui serial from an Ebay auction: