I will be using one of them with a turntable (VPI Scout/Denon 103R) mostly; maybe an Eico tuner. The speakers will be Spendor 3/1p's (rather inefficient at 86 real, 88 rated).

Any advice for this tube newbie? Note: I've searched this site and found some members with Fischer in their user names, which gives me hope. Also, I found a post for a review by Radioactive of the Fischer x-101-c here, but not the actual review.

Thanks!

Both should be very nice....it may depend upon whether you like the 7189 (Scott) or 7591 (Fisher) power tube better. You can't go wrong with either, really...

Both should be very nice....it may depend upon whether you like the 7189 (Scott) or 7591 (Fisher) power tube better. You can't go wrong with either, really...

Thanks for your answer.

Do you see any problem with the fact that the Scott is rated at 21 wpc and the Fisher, 32 wpc, given the inefficient speakers?

I've got a Scott 299(A) and like it, never heard the Fisher. I'm using KEF 103.2 (92dB) and have no problems with volume.

I'm risking flames on this forum but I'm not sure vintage tubes are the optimal match for your speakers.

Aren't Spendors sort of warm speakers that sound best with SS?

Also not all modern speakers work well with vintage tubes (damping factor or impedance or something) none of mine except the KEFs and FMI 80's sound any good with the Scott.

If I were spending your money I would get solid state for the Spendors, and get the vintage tubes plus some vintage speakers.

Not to throw a kink in your list, but you also should consider a Sansui 1000A receiver. It is rated at 40 watts per channel, along with a nice tuner, 2 phono (with capability of adding MC transformers already on the chassis, plug them in), 7591 tube sound, excellent iron and can be bought pretty reasonable. Oh yeah, and once they are freshened up they sound damn good. A search will give more info and input from owners in case you want to research them more.

Based more on reading than hearing, I suspect that the Scott's phono section, as is, may be a better choice if that's your focus.

BTW, those other amps were made by a company founded by a guy called Avery Fisher, not Fischer :-)

thanks, mrh...It was a REAL problem searching the web for a Fischer 101...maybe why I didn't get many hits...

Thanks so much for the eye-opening replies such as
go with solid state or Sansui. Well, I really like my Sansui 217 Tuner and I have a plethora of solid state amps. I really want to try the tube route, though. And my friend who sold me the Spendors says the Harbeths are SS friendly and the Spendor's Tube and SS friendly.

I hope there are more people out there with such eye-opening advice.

swimmerone, the Sansui 1000A is a tube receiver. Just to clarify.

7189 amps have a well deserved reputation for being very sweet sounding amps.

However, they are not very powerful. If you intend to use not-too-efficient speakers, the 7591's would be the way to go. Readily available both as NOS or as new, and they can provide all the volume you need except for the most demanding music.

Some threads that mention Fisher, Scott, etc.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/archive/index.php/t-24051.html

http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/thread/219638.aspx

Just to put my 2 cents in, the Sony STR 6055 (solid state) at 35 watts/channel can be had today for a reasonable price. Built like the proverbial brick outhouse.I got one a few years ago through EBay, paid under 50 dollars and it's a sweetheart! Nice warm sound, very tube like, and a good match for my AR 215PS speakers in my listening room.

"very tube like"

reminds me of the old ad campaign "just as good as a Xerox".

Mortsnets:

:tresbon:Thank you for the informantive, non-inflammatory links to discussions of integrated tube amps and receivers and Scotts and Fishers in particular. I read and will continue to read these links as I make my decision

Fisherdude:

Thanks for reducing it to the tubes and despite your name:D:, non-partisan. From what I read and heard, opinions lean toward the 7591's sounding best in Fishers (with the exception of the Scott LK-72) and the 7189 best in the Scott.

Dadbar:
besides liking your dog, "You can't go wrong with either, really..." is really the final answer, isn't it?:thmbsp:

mhardy6647
So what you're saying is, I'd have a hard time finding Avery FisCher Hall at the Lincoln Center:scratch2:?
And, is there somethign you can refer to me regarding the phono section, because that is what I will be exclusively

And finally, jhonda and morsnet:
good for you for risking flames:yes:. I will try out my solid state amps, too.

on the tube Scotts' phono prowess:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=vintage&n=128304&highlight=scott+phono&r=&session=

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=vintage&n=128089&highlight=scott+phono&r=&session=

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=vinyl&n=541411&highlight=Scott+phono&r=&session=