View Full Version : Album covers that need to be glued...what do you use?
Klownschool 10-30-2007, 07:46 PM I have a ton of records where the covers glue is failing. I was just going to use a white glue that dries clear but thought I would see what the people of AK use. Let me know what you like or do you even bother.
*Will a mod please add the 'l' to glued for me...I love looking illiterate.*
Thanks,
Rick
avguytx 10-30-2007, 07:57 PM LMAO! Now THAT gave me a chuckle. I was wondering what the hell was involved in an album being "gued"! :D I had to check it out and see what wassup!
I'll have to watch this because I have some like that as well and have been wondering the same thing. I wonder about Elmer's glue? I may try that on an old crappy album I don't care about and see what happens.
Since my primary (ok, exclusive) source for LP's is a wide variety of thrift stores, I've got more than a few with failing covers myself. Thanks for posing the question.
luvvinvinyl 10-30-2007, 09:11 PM UHU glue stick.
luvvinvinyl 10-30-2007, 09:12 PM Oh, and the title is repaired, too.
jfine 10-30-2007, 09:12 PM Yep clear glue stick
Klownschool 10-30-2007, 09:14 PM UHU glue stick.
I know is seems like a stupid question but certainly there are some glues that are better than others for this purpose. I wouldn't have thought that glue from a glue stick would be strong enough and I haven't experimented at all. Thanks for the tip. I will look for some industrial strength glue stick.
Rick
Klownschool 10-30-2007, 09:16 PM Oh, and the title is repaired, too.
Thanks...I am clearly deficient in synapse firing right now. You must think I am a total dork. :b
rick
luvvinvinyl 10-30-2007, 09:19 PM I just use the regular stuff, store brand cheapo from Staples/Office Depot, and have been for many years, without ill effect on the vinyl or the sleeve. I spread a coating on both surfaces, give it a minute or two to 'tack', then press down, and weight the seam, for a couple of hours. After that, the paper fails before the glue joint does.
Scorpion8 10-30-2007, 09:25 PM Glue stick or rubber cement. Usually the glue stick 'cause my 6-y.o. has them all over the house. Rubber cement if there is lots of crystalized glue remaining and I don't think I'll get good sheet-to-sheet contact.
meggy 10-30-2007, 09:27 PM I just use the regular stuff, store brand cheapo from Staples/Office Depot, and have been for many years, without ill effect on the vinyl or the sleeve. I spread a coating on both surfaces, give it a minute or two to 'tack', then press down, and weight the seam, for a couple of hours. After that, the paper fails before the glue joint does.
Yup. The glue can have a tendency to come off the stick in balls or clumps halfway through the stick. I keep a razor blade handy to use like a trowel.
Klownschool 10-30-2007, 09:28 PM Excellent, I am off to find the kids stash!
Rick
Strawman 10-31-2007, 07:21 AM Plain old Elmers white glue.
ozmoid 10-31-2007, 09:00 AM Rubber cement if there is lots of crystalized glue remaining and I don't think I'll get good sheet-to-sheet contact.A light touch with some 600+ grit sandpaper will take care of that.
And I would look for a glue in the scrapbooking section - more likely to find something archival (acid-free). May not make much difference now, but in 10-20 years you may see some staining with non-archival glues.
Mark W. 10-31-2007, 10:15 AM I would suggest rather then glue use the THIN plastic double sided carpet tape it can't possibly ooze or spread where it shouldn't be. I use a razor blade to cut the roll to about 3/8" strips and I have found it to work very well and very fast.
ACE hardware carries the tape around here.
cfranz 10-31-2007, 10:23 AM If you are talking about seporating at the glue joints then I use a little sand paper to clean up the overlap and contact cement. The problem never returns on that album.
Jovinyl 10-31-2007, 10:29 AM Plain old Elmers white glue.
:thmbsp: Same here. you only need to squeeze out a very thin bead along the edge. Me I just run my fingers down the edge after to seal it and let it dry.
chillwolf 10-31-2007, 10:38 AM I've had the best success using the old rubber cement. I just think it holds better than the white glue and is still flexible when it dries. YMMV.
gkimeng 10-31-2007, 10:43 AM I have a ton of records where the covers glue is failing. I was just going to use a white glue that dries clear but thought I would see what the people of AK use. Let me know what you like or do you even bother.
I don't. I keep a supply of plastic outer sleeves/bags and put covers that come apart into them so I don't have to worry about what new glue may be outgassing into my records.
KeninDC 10-31-2007, 11:42 AM Highly toxic model glue works best.
When you're done sniffing it, you no longer care about the split LP cover.:D
Jack Lord 10-31-2007, 11:55 AM Plain old Elmers white glue
Same here or the CVS knockoff to save a few cents. I also use document clips stolen from the office to clamp it down while drying.
toomuchvinyl 10-31-2007, 12:08 PM Rubber cement is all I've used. I slip a thin metal ruler in the cover along the seam so if there's any that oozes out inside, it wont bind the cover too.
KeninDC 10-31-2007, 12:17 PM Same here or the CVS knockoff to save a few cents. I also use document clips stolen from the office to clamp it down while drying.
Brain damaging jokes aside (Kids - Do NOT sniff glue!), I use Elmers or whatever the wifey buys, lay down a thin bead, spread it thin w/ my pinky finger, and put the cover under a fat pile of LPs on top of a hard flat surface for a few hours.
I will not play a used LP until I clean it and repair the cover. After that, it is "mine."
chillwolf 10-31-2007, 01:29 PM Same here or the CVS knockoff to save a few cents. I also use document clips stolen from the office to clamp it down while drying.
Jack, never say stolen! The correct term is "borrowed". :D
eb2jim 10-31-2007, 02:14 PM If it is a late 70s or later folded cover, I use white glue or stick. If it is an older jacket with a "paste over" slick construction I use of of two methods: If it is an lp of average or less value, I will use scotch tape and just be done with it, avoiding tape on the slick itself. If it is an lp with some collector value I use white glue in a very thin bead. If the edges have frayed I use the white glue to fold the pieces back down. When selling at a record show, that method doesn't raise any ire, and I decrease the price accordingly.
Another method that I don't use but I have known of is to take a manilla file folder and cut off the front and back leaving an inch of hinge, then sliding that in and gluing it inside the top and bottom to reinforce/repair the split. It doesn't apply to an 80s jacket, but makes a strong repair to a 50-70s old style jacket.
Jack Lord 10-31-2007, 03:54 PM Jack, never say stolen! The correct term is "borrowed". :D
Why of course. I bring them back after I have repaired the cover.:yes:
mwicks 10-31-2007, 04:41 PM I use an UHU glue stick. After applying the glue, I put a large piece of wood over the cover and then a weight on top to "clamp" it together. It works really well.
Klownschool 10-31-2007, 06:50 PM I don't. I keep a supply of plastic outer sleeves/bags and put covers that come apart into them so I don't have to worry about what new glue may be outgassing into my records.
Are you serious? I use plastic bags as well but when I pull out a record from a cover that is coming apart, it's a PITA trying to put it back in. I like to repair the covers so I don't have to worry about damaging the inner sleeve or the cover. Can off-gassing really affect a record? I had no idea that white glue or rubber cement was so toxic. I never ate paste either but that might have killed me. I do appreciate the comment but I think that until there is a study of different glues off-gassing in a plastic sleeve and it shows that to deteriorate the vinyl faster than usual I just won't worry about it :).
rick
big1daddy 10-31-2007, 07:06 PM Another vote for Elmer's Glue stick. It's quick and neat.
SpeakerLabFan 10-31-2007, 07:14 PM Good thread Rick! I have ALOT of otherwise excellent LP covers which will benefit from the glue treatment discussed here.
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