I was lucky enough to audition some Klipsch Jubilee 2-way horns recently and must say, they are some of the best sounding speakers I have ever heard. Truely amazing was hearing these after auditioning some Wilson Alexandria speakers. Now you have to take into account the Wilsons were around $125,000 and the Klipsch around $7000. The Klipsch blew me away. Here is a picture of a friends Jubilees, just after he got them off the truck and hooked them up.

Dang...they be some big puppies. What is your friend driving the Jubilees with? Mighty impressive.

I'm gonna need a bigger house.

I never realized just how large they really are!

cubdog

Dang...they be some big puppies. What is your friend driving the Jubilees with? Mighty impressive.

I'm gonna need a bigger house.

With a sensitivity of 105dB, you could use just about anything you want. The nice thing is I've heard these run with a Cary 2A3 at about 3 watts/chnl, Winsome Labs Mouse amp at about 40 watts/chnl, Crown XTi 1000 at 275 watts/chnl and more...My personal taste runs for tubes with horns but solid state and active crossovers was amazing. They run well with a little power but can take lot if you want to throw it at them.

Is your friend using the EV crossover? If so, was the set up difficult?

Holy crap! Those are Forte's behind them, right? Forte's aren't exactly bookshelf speakers... :no:

I'd love to hear them, but that all black scheme doesn't do anything for me. Do they make them with wood veneers at all?

No veneer, but one of the Klipsch board regulars DIY'ed up a set with veneer and they look fantastic.

http://www.jubilation.ws/

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/filmboydoug/diyjube.jpg

I want a pair!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy crap! Those are Forte's behind them, right? Forte's aren't exactly bookshelf speakers... :no:

I'd love to hear them, but that all black scheme doesn't do anything for me. Do they make them with wood veneers at all?

Those look like Chorus' to me.And their being dwarfed by those monsters.I'd love to hear them.

I used to think I didn't care for the big "K" speakers. I used to talk them down like I knew what I was talking about. . . This was 20 years ago too. . .

I threw out any preconcieved notions I had about audio gear once I came to AK. I heard people talking about gear I thought I didn't like. What it did for me was make me go out find the piece and listen for myself. I changed my opinon and stopped talking about things I didn't I hadn't heard until I had some experience with it. Best thing that ever happened to me.

Long story short I haven't heard this speaker but not so long ago I found my La Scalas, also 104 dB, also Klipsch and changed my mind about loudspeakers completly.

I'm quite sure that Jubilee would cause me to loose control of certain bodily functions as my LS's do whenever the right program material comes over them.

First speaker I've ever heard that puts you right there in the middle of it. I'm learning what the fuss is all about. . .

I've heard the Jubilee. It's true.

The jubilees are the real deal folks. This was the last piece of Paul Klipsch before he passed.

They are available from the Klipsch Cinema line. They aren't plug and play. You have to set up the active XO for two way or you have to build passive networks yourself or have someone do it for your. The schematic from Klipsch is available.

I have built a pair of Jubilee clones. If you love horn bass...these sound much better than the Khorn. This is my opinion.

Only a small number of folks have this setup right now. Some have crowns with and active XO setup, some have the EV Dx38 XO with an assortmant of amps and then there are those with the passive.

If you are interested.....you will need to get on the Klipsch forum and show your interest and then someone will lead you in the right direction. You can't just buy from a store or online.

jc

The soundstage those beasts throw off dwarfs a Klipschorn.....If I only had the money and the room.

With a sensitivity of 105dB

Not to argue, but my understanding from Roy is when using the active crossover, they're more like 109 and when using passives, about 108 db.

I've got that in an email at office. If he's told someone different, maybe he was having a Wattaburger kinda day! :scratch2:

If anyone is near Knoxville, you are welcome to hear a pair however, you do so at your own risk and peril of wallet!!

:D

Is your friend using the EV crossover? If so, was the set up difficult?

Setup of an EV Dx-38 isn't difficult at all, especially if you are already working in the realm of XLR cables. I had (made) two XLR/RCA cables and they introduced a ton of noise so I finally had to yank them out and insert an ART Cleanbox to convert from RCA to XLR.

Beyond that, just matter of dialing in the numbers and just as important, knowing the input sensativities on your amps so you can adjust for that.

BTW, Luther isn't referring to my setup above (spirit of full disclosure).

Just wondering: on Klipsch's page (http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/kpt-jubilee-535.aspx), the Jubilee includes a tweeter horn - is the Jublilee being discussed here a custom version?

Rad...

If you look at my avatar, that is what we're using. We've dropped the tweeter HORN amnd the midrange DRIVER. We moved the tweeter driver down to the midrange horn (and lost the midrange driver)

Got it??!! :D

Evidently, we don't need that high throw midrange driver for home use although there are now two people who are in fact using it. One guy is using the full 3-way Jubilee in his basement and another guy, though using the 2-way Jubilee, simply dropped the tweeter driver and horn. He is using the midrange driver on the midrange horn and allowing them to carry tweeter duties.

Interestingly enough, I've read someones opinion on his setup and they prefer the sound of his Khorns to his Jubilees (same guy has a pair of each in different rooms)

Hope that helps a bit.

:lurk:

Bob Crites interview: (http://www.klipschcorner.com/Articles.aspx?guid=07f9241a-04df-4896-b84a-459b82fee26d)

Those are really big speakers. Looks like they would be at home behind the large screen at the theater.

Filmboydoug congrats on the USC game.

Tweeter compression drivers on large mid horns?

Been playing around a bit with the 1.75" Ti driver from the TracTrix in my Klipsch RF-7's in some Altec 511B mid horns.

(Yeah 23" wide is tiny compared with a Jubilee K402! But it may be as close as I'll ever get...)

Hey they were drilled with holes for both 3 and 2bolt patterns...I had to try.:D

The driver was used for 2800 Hz-up inside the RF-7's.

Not bad at all at 800, 1000, really nice at 1200 but that leaves a hole in the middle of the spectrum. :no: Convinced it needs a high/supertweeter though.

Bottom half, tried the SpeakerLab7; maybe this weekend the big PA Dukane 15" triaxes that resemble Altecs a little.

I'll have to do drilling and maybe make an adapter to try the K-77, K55 from my Heresies...which right now are atop the SL7's and blend well with them.

Thought Acoustic Suspension and Horns wouldn't do that, but the woofers in the SL's are long-throw rubber surround AlNiCos?

Someday I will build a pair of those.... I swear.

Someday I will build a pair of those.... I swear.

A couple people have already done that, the veneered pair on the first page of this thread was built by a guy in Nashville. JC also built a pair of the bass bins.

I don't know what JC's thoughts were on building his but Rigma said rather unequivically, once he discovered just how much work was involved in building them, he would have rather simply purchased them.

Not trying to discourage you, just hoping you do your full due dilligence before embarking on an interesting journey.

I built a pair in 2006. It was a lot of fun.

I have no intention on building anymore. Like Richard said........lot of work. The guy in Nashville built his after mine. He spent the time to make them look pretty......So he took way longer than me. But his look great.

My clones are no longer in my hands.....I sold to a buddy for cheap. I have considered buying some now. I can build quickly if I wanted.....but to make em pretty would just take too long...

For those who love horns or maybe need to experience the horn, you need to find someone close to you who has them. they are amazing. They won't win any WAF awards.......

jc

Yeh they are about as ugly a WARTHOG.. Need to turn off the lights to listen to them. Its a two bagger,,If one bag breaks the other bag will save you. What do they sound like???? Like a cine pro movie speaker.... with better dynamics,

I can see a trip to Knoxville is in the future for me. 4 hours away...I've been through there many times on my way to Ky.

I boasted how large my Bozak Symphonys are but, I'm slinking away with my tail between my legs. I could not envision them in something less than an airplane hanger.

Maybe we could blast them into space and make a new space station out of it.

A couple people have already done that, the veneered pair on the first page of this thread was built by a guy in Nashville. JC also built a pair of the bass bins.

I don't know what JC's thoughts were on building his but Rigma said rather unequivically, once he discovered just how much work was involved in building them, he would have rather simply purchased them.

Not trying to discourage you, just hoping you do your full due dilligence before embarking on an interesting journey.

Coytee,
Is there a place where one can see the plans for the bass horns? I built a pair of Speakerlab Khorns from their plans back in '75 and have often wished I still had them, maybe the Jubs could...:yes::no:

Best Regards,
TerryO

Coytee,
Is there a place where one can see the plans for the bass horns? I built a pair of Speakerlab Khorns from their plans back in '75 and have often wished I still had them, maybe the Jubs could...:yes::no:

Best Regards,
TerryO

I personally have no idea where some plans might be and just as important, how accurate they may be.

I know some guys on the Klipsch forum were talking about some of the design paramaters but that was probably pushing two years ago. Certainly nothing recent.

To reiterate something that you probably read... when Rigma built his and I talked to him afterwards, he said in fairly certain terms, had he known beforehand how much work was involved with them, he would have simply bought them and saved a lot of time/energy.

As I said above, I don't say that to dissuade anyone but rather, encourage them to do their homework so they can make the best decision for them.

I'm a bit embarassed because I forget which city he lives in (near Spokane or near Seattle) but if you are near the lucky city, you could probably get yourself a listen with the only pair that I know of on the west coast.

I'd offer you here but its a bit of a drive for you to get to Tennessee...:D

Yowza! They have got to be something to hear! Don't play the music in reverse, though, they'll suck in your kids!:D

Yowza! They have got to be something to hear! Don't play the music in reverse, though, they'll suck in your kids!:D

They sucked me in. Unfortunately, my wallet couldn't follow.

Your lucky your wallet didnt follow,,,The Jubilee is a makeover of the ol JBL Hartsfield that also has a very very simmiler folded bass bin,, and started out also two way,,later JBL added a tweeter to extend upper bandwidth... Looks wise the Hartsfield looks great,,While the Jubilee looks like an ugly sister WartHog.. The Jubilee does not even go one white note lower than the standard Khorn,,But at the 40hz note is up 5 db,, To pay $7500 for that is not that good a idea,,plus putting a big cinema horn with a cheap Paudio ($150) is what you can expect out of Klipsch Cinema Dept. Plus you have to add plenty of EQ to tame the camel hump response of the HF driver. A TAD HF driver can be substatuted (TAD 4002) to help clean things up with less EQ. The Tannoy Westminster horn is smoother sounding(great looking too), but the cost goes up quite a bit. The so called Jubilee Club or still trying to save face on a Horn system not quite finished sound wise,,and most certinally looks wise,, Ive heard the Jube in three versions,, Maybe it will be redesigned to sound better but as it stands now i would recommend waiting for its maturaty.

Coytee,
Is there a place where one can see the plans for the bass horns?

Just looked... don't ya know... the closest pair to you are in Spokane.

Your lucky your wallet didnt follow,,,The Jubilee is a makeover of the ol JBL Hartsfield that also has a very very simmiler folded bass bin,, and started out also two way,,later JBL added a tweeter to extend upper bandwidth...

I believe the Klipsch Jubilee has far more in common with the earlier Frazier Texan than with the JBL Hartsfield.

Yeh shure a good nockoff...

Holy bejeezus, those things are cool.

Is there a significant reason to choose something like this over those massive, round Tractrix horns you see?

One of these days, I hope to have enough listening room for a setup like that :)

Is there a significant reason to choose something like this over those massive, round Tractrix horns you see?


Cost?

Yeh shure a good nockoff...

Referring to the Hartsfield design, without a doubt. :yes:

Still being made by John Wolf,, Audio Classics,,, Useing TAD drivers.

Still being made by John Wolf,, Audio Classics,,, Useing TAD drivers.

Do you have a link to these ???

Yeh they are about as ugly a WARTHOG..

I think perhaps, we might be able to upgrade WARTHOG to maybe groundhog or possibly a Hyena... :scratch2: :D :thmbsp:

Roy sent me this picture. Factory fresh Jubilee, Walnut front (I think), being sent to the first Jubilee owner in Canada!

I think the new owner is going with K402 although it's possible he's going with the smaller K510.

This is also the first non-industrial looking Jubilee to be sent off to a customer. Had we been told at first, this was possible, then there would probably be more of these out there. When it all began though, walnut fronts were not discussed as an option.

Coytee,

Perhaps you could post that picture of PWK with the first Jubilee for Maron.

I kind of like the all-black look better...the walnut one tries to look civilized, when these beasts have to be anything but :D

I'm sure he's seen it. Also, I'd bet he would contend that the unit next to PWK is what these all should look like.

What I find a bit interesting... the small horn on top was evidently heard by PWK and according to Roy, PWK said he wanted to hear an even larger horn. I don't know that he ever actually HEARD the K402 on the Jubilee but it seems that is where Roy was headed when PWK came to his end.

So, for those people (not necessarily Maron) who long for this smaller horn (including PWK's widow I might add) they're not getting the full picture that PWK wasn't evidently fully satisfied with this horn.

Seems PWK's wife Valerie doesn't like the black versions and has commissioned two sets of Jubilees to be manufactured. I think she's calling them the "Golden Jubilee". She evidently paid out of her pocket, for a former employee to build these and build them as she felt PWK wanted.

Interestingly, she seems to be using a clone of the wooden horn that PWK is standing next to and is a clone of the very horn he told Roy he wanted to go larger with.

So, in a sense, she was trying to create his last vision BUT in so doing, missed the ball on the top horn since he didn't want to use one that small.

Rhetorical question... if a "Golden Jubilee" is built by PWK's widow and the KHJ Jubilee is built by the Klipsch factory and they are identical in their layout (or so I presume), is one more "real" than the other? :scratch2:

I understand she also has the factory innards so there has to be some kind of agreement here?

I just find this interesting. A bit unfortunate and sad...but still interesting

Yes the Golden Jubilee is close to what Paul heard,,,One pair has been donated to the Klipsch museum in New Mexico University,,, The other pair is in Mike Klemintovich home.. The auther of the Klipsh Bio... The clone 403 horn is defective and was given to me for evaluation... Mike is useing the Martinelli horn for now,,But will even do better than that with even a better horn. The cinema 403 horn WartHog should not have been introduced for home use,,, There are better more cival units for home use,,Delgado jumped the gun in getting that horn to some of the Klipsch members.. He could have done better also with a better driver,,, A TAD driver that I suggested was bought by some members to improve sonics although a bit pricy.. Now a front veneer is offered,,, to those who can afford the extra cost.. The evelution grinds slowly.. Getting to what Paul wanted... The Cinema pro department at klipsch is slow in coming around to what the Klipsch family wanted...