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vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 04:04 AM
I have an idea that has been bouncing around in my head for sometime, and it is to have the biggest battery powered walkman that I could take with me to school. I thought to use a reel to reel deck.Does anyone know of any?

I have found:
Uher 4400 report monitor LIMITATIONS: 5 inch reel, short recording time (at 7.5). hard to find 5 inch reels this day in age and I don't have any. I am hoping for 7 inch. You apparently can get them new here: http://www.cameraspro.com/uher.html
Too rich for my budget.

Nagra 4.2S: TOO EXPENSIVE!

Does anyone know of any reel to reel decks that can run off of batteries, take 7 inch reels and play 4 track at 7.5 ips??? If I recorded direct to the portable, and not thru my A-3340S, I could go down to 3 and 3/4 ips. Would that degrade the sound quality too much?

Fire away!

I would love to walk around school with a reel to reel deck this day in age.

goldear
11-23-2007, 07:46 AM
Most of the high-quality battery-powered units that I am aware of required 5" reels. Sony made a high-quality portable that was designed to compete agaist the Nagra, but I believe that even it may have required 5" reels. And when you do actually find one of these very rare buggers, you will need to pay through the nose for it. :sigh:

Many reel to reels were designed to be transportable, and had cases for traveling, and attached speakers. But all of these required an AC power source. So, unless you plan on lugging a car-battery, and an inverter along with your 30 lbs reel to reel, you are probably out of luck.

Most portable reel to reels were designed to be dictation machines, and only supported 3" reels, were mono, and definitely were _not_ high-fidelity by any stretch of the imagination.

drknstrmyknight
11-23-2007, 09:22 AM
You want good sound and to draw attention to your hobby. How about an IPOD and a TUBES RULE t-shirt?

koltrast
11-23-2007, 10:24 AM
The Stellavox would do it, but they are a little too expensive!

mhardy6647
11-23-2007, 10:27 AM
yup, Stellavox. You've got to break eggs if you want to make real mayonnaise :-)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/stella2.jpg

Jay Pemberton
11-23-2007, 12:16 PM
Sony TC 770. Made in the early 1970s. Could run on AC or on 12 volts from a car battery or a rechargeable battery pack that took 14 Ni-Cad batteries. Will run up to 4 hours on one charge.

7" max reel size. XLR balanced mike inputs, looks like RCA unbalanced line inputs and outputs. 1/4" headphone jack.

40-18000 Hz @ 7 1/2 ips, 40-15000 Hz @ 3 3/4 ips, 50-10000Hz @ 1 7/8 ips.

Wow/flutter, .09% @ 7 1/2, .12% @ 3 3/4, .2% @ 1 7/8.

TC-770-2: Half track stereo E/R/P with extra quarter track stereo repro head.
TC-770-4: Quarter track stereo E/R/P with extra half track stereo repro head.

Dimensions: 16 1/8" W X 5 13/16 H X 15 5/16 D.

Weight: 24 lbs, 11 oz.

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 12:45 PM
I would LOVE one of those....That is what I am looking for.
There's one on eBay now...but I can't get it :tears:

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 01:08 PM
iPod and TUBES shirt? Well, when I get some tube gear, I might think about that. iPod---NO! I HATE THEM! They break waaay too easily. I am noted already for bringing ghettoblasters (like in my avatar) and cassette walkmans to school, so this would not scare people TOO much. I also want to do high quality live recording for my theater and possibly other people. Taking my TEAC A-3340S along is just impractical.

dr*audio
11-23-2007, 01:11 PM
Jay, you beat me to it! I used to have one but I sold it when I wasn't using it anymore. I used to use it for live recordings, but went to Minidisk. The TC-770 is a sweet machine! It has mechanical feedback to control the take - up and holdback tension. Very low noise recordings!:tresbon:




Sony TC 770. Made in the early 1970s. Could run on AC or on 12 volts from a car battery or a rechargeable battery pack that took 14 Ni-Cad batteries. Will run up to 4 hours on one charge.

7" max reel size. XLR balanced mike inputs, looks like RCA unbalanced line inputs and outputs. 1/4" headphone jack.

40-18000 Hz @ 7 1/2 ips, 40-15000 Hz @ 3 3/4 ips, 50-10000Hz @ 1 7/8 ips.

Wow/flutter, .09% @ 7 1/2, .12% @ 3 3/4, .2% @ 1 7/8.

TC-770-2: Half track stereo E/R/P with extra quarter track stereo repro head.
TC-770-4: Quarter track stereo E/R/P with extra half track stereo repro head.

Dimensions: 16 1/8" W X 5 13/16 H X 15 5/16 D.

Weight: 24 lbs, 11 oz.

goldear
11-23-2007, 01:13 PM
Sony TC 770. Made in the early 1970s. Could run on AC or on 12 volts from a car battery or a rechargeable battery pack that took 14 Ni-Cad batteries. Will run up to 4 hours on one charge.

7" max reel size. XLR balanced mike inputs, looks like RCA unbalanced line inputs and outputs. 1/4" headphone jack.

40-18000 Hz @ 7 1/2 ips, 40-15000 Hz @ 3 3/4 ips, 50-10000Hz @ 1 7/8 ips.

Wow/flutter, .09% @ 7 1/2, .12% @ 3 3/4, .2% @ 1 7/8.

TC-770-2: Half track stereo E/R/P with extra quarter track stereo repro head.
TC-770-4: Quarter track stereo E/R/P with extra half track stereo repro head.

Dimensions: 16 1/8" W X 5 13/16 H X 15 5/16 D.

Weight: 24 lbs, 11 oz.
Yes that model would do it. Except that he's need to have attached speakers, and for the fact that those units are almost unobtainable they are so rare.

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 01:16 PM
I use my good headphones, and there is enough stereo stuff in my school to fill a room and I can get hold of some of it.

There's one on eBay right now.

Garrard201
11-23-2007, 02:32 PM
Another vote for the TC-770... if you are familiar with the Grateful Dead's "Dick's Picks" series, many of those tapes were apparently made on a '770. And they sound great!

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 02:38 PM
You have got to be kidding me...those tapes were made on a TC-770????????? They sound GREAT!

dr*audio
11-23-2007, 04:20 PM
It's an amazing deck. I still have a couple of recordings I made on mine.

dr*audio
11-23-2007, 04:22 PM
One warning, it has 2 round rubber belts in it that will probably need replacing, which requires major disassembly, patience and skill. The belts are not available from Sony but you can get them from beltsforanything.com

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 04:30 PM
How much do you think I should pay for one? I just put an ad out on CL and I will see what comes back.

dr*audio
11-23-2007, 06:42 PM
If you are capable of some rather complicated mechanical assembly work (some soldering of wires is required also because there is a circuit board in the way of the mechanism) then you don't need to care if it will need belts. If you will have to pay someone to do the repair / restoration work, then bid accordingly. Figure you'll spend $150 - $200 to get it working, so if you find one that has been recently serviced and works perfectly I'd say it's worth $200 max. On the other hand, that's the condition mine was in and I think I sold it for $150.

vinyldavid
11-23-2007, 06:46 PM
OK. Thanks. I'll update this if I can find anything.

Garrard201
11-23-2007, 11:17 PM
Not sure if anyone has checked out the auction vinyldavid refers to, but the seller says it "play, forward and reverse work fine... don't know how to test the record function." For those of you not fluent in BS, that means IT DOESN'T RECORD. What a shyster this seller is... HE is why I hate online auctions. Hopefully, vinyldavid, you can get a good deal on this. : )

Garrard201
11-23-2007, 11:20 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that Akai's X-V (I think that's the model) fits the bill of what's you're looking for. And I THINK it even has 15 IPS and is tubed! Not positive on that, though.

Jay Pemberton
11-24-2007, 12:33 PM
Re the X-V, from Phil Van Praag's EVOLUTION OF THE AUDIO RECORDER:

Mid-'60s recorder, 10 7/8 x 7 x 11 inches (approx.), transistorized, single motor, 2 channel, 5 inch reel size (7 inch with adaptor), 3 head (w/Crossfield bias), battery, 7 1/2--3 3/4--1 7/8--15/16 ips, similar to Roberts 1001/6000S.

goldear
11-24-2007, 03:40 PM
If you are capable of some rather complicated mechanical assembly work (some soldering of wires is required also because there is a circuit board in the way of the mechanism) then you don't need to care if it will need belts. If you will have to pay someone to do the repair / restoration work, then bid accordingly. Figure you'll spend $150 - $200 to get it working, so if you find one that has been recently serviced and works perfectly I'd say it's worth $200 max. On the other hand, that's the condition mine was in and I think I sold it for $150.
Really? That little? I would have guessed significantly more... :scratch2: Unfortunaltely I think that I have only ever actually seen one of these units for sale, and I think that it sold for more than that.

drknstrmyknight
11-24-2007, 04:43 PM
I am noted already for bringing ghettoblasters (like in my avatar) and cassette walkmans to school, so this would not scare people TOO much.

... and has this made you irresistable to the girls?

dr*audio
11-24-2007, 05:08 PM
Really? That little? I would have guessed significantly more... :scratch2: Unfortunaltely I think that I have only ever actually seen one of these units for sale, and I think that it sold for more than that.

Maybe on the West Coast or on E-Bay, but this is Cleveland. No one has any money here...

goldear
11-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Maybe on the West Coast or on E-Bay, but this is Cleveland. No one has any money here...
The only place I've ever seen one of these was on rare occasion on Epay. I'd love to find on on CL, but those are so rare, I doubt that this will ever happen. :sigh:

vinyldavid
11-25-2007, 11:20 AM
Still looking....for $ and a Sony TC-770. :( :grumpy:

vinyldavid
11-25-2007, 11:21 AM
... and has this made you irresistable to the girls?

ONE girl......maybe......:banana: :D

goldear
11-25-2007, 01:12 PM
Do you know that you whould look for if your goal is to really stand-out at school? One of those LP walkmans! Those were one of the strangest inventions ever. :yes:

vinyldavid
11-25-2007, 01:43 PM
I am also looking for one of those. :D

Vintage TX
11-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Was curious and did a digging here in the manual section, maybe you can get lucky finding this model, Sony TC-772, up to 7 inch reels and 7-1/2 + 15 speed.
I never seen one in person but know they are around, sold a few manuals in the past.
Check it out:scratch2:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/VintageTX/Sony%20TC772/scan0002.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/VintageTX/Sony%20TC772/scan0003.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/VintageTX/Sony%20TC772/scan0001.jpg

Vintage TX
11-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Forgot to mention, it has both 2 and 4 track heads, so you can record the conversation with that special girl on 15 speed + 2-track, her voice gonna sound like a angel:D

vinyldavid
11-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Her voice already does...:thmbsp:

Vintage TX
11-25-2007, 02:33 PM
Great, now you need some sweet tunes to win her heart:music:

larschr
11-25-2007, 04:02 PM
I have a Sharp portable tape recorder from the 70s. Itīs a mono 2 track 2 speed, but the sound quality is not very much to talk about even at 3 3/4IPS. It can be powered with AC or DC, and has a built-in speaker. guess it was only something cheap, but it is cool to walk around with.

When it comes to the girl-thing... Iīm sorry, but it doesnīt really work that well, they are not even impressed by my all-original 1953 Tandberg Model1 tape recorder...

vinyldavid
11-25-2007, 05:07 PM
I know that vintage electronics are a turn-off to girls.....

Some of them change their mind when they HEAR them, though... I am not trying to impress girls I just like analog...

Garrard201
12-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Not sure if someone mentioned this already, but what about Wollensak? I thought someone in another thread on AK gave the model # of a Wollensak deck that was portable, tubed, 4-track/2-channel, and took 7" reels. What was the model #? Anyone?

KentTeffeteller
12-07-2007, 04:25 PM
Hi,

That Wollensak is portable but is AC only! Not too many of that model was Stereo either. Most of them were Mono 1/2 Track.