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Dr. Music
05-10-2009, 07:59 AM
I've never owned any Technics amplifiers, but I have owned a couple of Technics turntables and I can tell you that they take a back seat to no one(dollar for dollar).

I had intended to start out with an amp a bit older, as I was afraid that the cleaner sound of the late seventies/early eighties Technics wouldn't be to my liking. Boy was I ever wrong!

ryuuoh
05-10-2009, 09:51 PM
Well, I wrapped up most of the work on my 8080. The thing sounds very good now that nearly every electrolytic cap is new. :music:

BTW, if anyone has a spare switch cap, I need one for the power switch~

Dr. Music
05-11-2009, 06:44 AM
Well, I wrapped up most of the work on my 8080. The thing sounds very good now that nearly every electrolytic cap is new. :music:

BTW, if anyone has a spare switch cap, I need one for the power switch~

Great to know! I love the dark face on the 8080. Its always good to be reunited with a piece that you had long ago, and besides that, the 8080 is a nice piece of equipment to be reunited with. That poor gal had lived a hard neglected life before she came into your hands :tears:

ryuuoh
05-11-2009, 06:52 PM
The 8080 is going to live a nice relaxed existence in the bedroom system for the rest of it's (or my) life.
Now I need to sort out where I want the Yamaha M pair.

SoCal Sam
05-11-2009, 06:55 PM
I'll bash the SA-xx00 receivers any day and all day but the separates sure look interesting.

Cogsinister
05-11-2009, 07:03 PM
Well, I wrapped up most of the work on my 8080. The thing sounds very good now that nearly every electrolytic cap is new. :music:

BTW, if anyone has a spare switch cap, I need one for the power switch~

My wife would kill me if used the dining room table and her hand made crochet tablecloth as a work surface !!!

:no:

ryuuoh
05-11-2009, 07:32 PM
Hey, I used towels!

Cogsinister
05-11-2009, 08:02 PM
Hey, I used towels!

My wife says "I hope he did"

lol

CharlesT
05-12-2009, 12:00 AM
I skimmed through this huge thread for about the past 20 minutes. As I am a fan of the vintage Technics gear, I thought I would share a few pics of what I have.

First off, I recall someone mentioning that their first component was the SA-5170 receiver. Well I have one that my two oldest brothers pitched in together and bought brand new back in the day (1977 I believe). I was just a baby at the time, 2 years old!

Here it is. It still works and looks just about as good as new. Even all the original bulbs!
http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p500596983-5.jpg


I also saw mention of the large integrated amps, the SU-8077 and SU-8088. From what I gather, a few of you have these amps but no one here has the SU-8099. I would like to show you that I have one that was handed down to me from my father, which he too bought brand new back in 1979. It still operates and looks excellent after all these years of near constant use!
http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p438418063-5.jpg


Here's a couple pics of them up and running together in my old home theater setup. The SA-5170 was being fed the LFE channel to power the pair of Aura Pro bass shakers that I had installed under the couch at the time. The SU-8099 was powering the (4) Usher Audio 15HM drivers on open baffles. The most power I ever saw the SU-8099 pump into those Usher's was 10 watts peak. And I was hitting well above 115dB during those same peaks!
http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p364017427-5.jpg

http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p362236897-5.jpg

ryuuoh
05-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Very nice stuff! Good to see you making good use of the "hand me downs". The 8099 is a fairly rare bird.

Cogsinister
05-12-2009, 12:05 AM
Amazing pics........thanks for posting.......

CharlesT
05-12-2009, 12:22 AM
Thanks guys. :D

Actually, both units have been sitting for a little over a year now in the closet. I wouldn't mind building up a couple of vintage systems around these two pieces. The only problem is the lack of room!

Also, if I am to do this, I would like to find a matching ST-8077 tuner to go with the SU-8099 which my father also bought at the same time. However, he got rid of the tuner as it was giving him issues that no one could resolve, including himself.

ryuuoh
05-12-2009, 12:27 AM
There's an st-8077 up for a ridiculous price you know where.

CharlesT
05-12-2009, 01:25 AM
There's an st-8077 up for a ridiculous price you know where.

Yep, and I'm in no hurry... LOL

ryuuoh
05-12-2009, 01:31 AM
I have the Room problem also. A Hafler dh-200 and dh-110 just gathering dust, and a yamaha m50 c50 kicked out of the bedroom.

Dr. Music
05-31-2009, 01:43 PM
I skimmed through this huge thread for about the past 20 minutes. As I am a fan of the vintage Technics gear, I thought I would share a few pics of what I have.

First off, I recall someone mentioning that their first component was the SA-5170 receiver. Well I have one that my two oldest brothers pitched in together and bought brand new back in the day (1977 I believe). I was just a baby at the time, 2 years old!


I also saw mention of the large integrated amps, the SU-8077 and SU-8088. From what I gather, a few of you have these amps but no one here has the SU-8099. I would like to show you that I have one that was handed down to me from my father, which he too bought brand new back in 1979. It still operates and looks excellent after all these years of near constant use!


Could have easily been me you're referring to on BOTH counts Charles :). I've yet to grab another SA-5170, but I did grab a nice SA-5470 as soon as I got into vintage gear. I LOVE my SU-8088 and can only imagine how nice it would be to track down the 8099 you have! :thmbsp:

SVI2004A
06-21-2009, 05:40 AM
it would take a week to bash all these Technics! I got this off the Technics Forum.......I thought some of us had it bad! he he

LOL you think that be all

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/Wall1.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacks.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksB.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacksII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksBII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000938.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000965.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1010110.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/ThunderFlight.jpg

Technics bashers may say im Synchro Biased - i say the sound speaks for itself

-Baily

deaner33
06-21-2009, 10:35 AM
How is that little micro system? There've been a few on ebay recently.

SVI2004A
06-21-2009, 11:24 AM
haha yeah good hey, i havent seen them... havent been on ebay alot though - that lil one sure sounds good - it drives B&W DM602 series3 atm

terra1
06-21-2009, 11:42 AM
I'll bash the SA-xx00 receivers any day and all day but the separates sure look interesting.

Hey ... at least you're a basher based on experience and an open mind. Good to hear your views to offset my rose-colored glasses sometimes ... :thmbsp: I can respect that! :D

terra1
06-21-2009, 11:57 AM
I skimmed through this huge thread for about the past 20 minutes. As I am a fan of the vintage Technics gear, I thought I would share a few pics of what I have.

First off, I recall someone mentioning that their first component was the SA-5170 receiver. Well I have one that my two oldest brothers pitched in together and bought brand new back in the day (1977 I believe). I was just a baby at the time, 2 years old!

Here it is. It still works and looks just about as good as new. Even all the original bulbs!



I also saw mention of the large integrated amps, the SU-8077 and SU-8088. From what I gather, a few of you have these amps but no one here has the SU-8099. I would like to show you that I have one that was handed down to me from my father, which he too bought brand new back in 1979. It still operates and looks excellent after all these years of near constant use!



Here's a couple pics of them up and running together in my old home theater setup. The SA-5170 was being fed the LFE channel to power the pair of Aura Pro bass shakers that I had installed under the couch at the time. The SU-8099 was powering the (4) Usher Audio 15HM drivers on open baffles. The most power I ever saw the SU-8099 pump into those Usher's was 10 watts peak. And I was hitting well above 115dB during those same peaks!



Thanks for sharing your story. It's not just the hardware. It's about the memories too - for each moment in time. I like "collecting" hardware for the experience and "hobby." But the ones I originally owned and have become vintage hold a special place in me heart ... if I may wax a bit nostalgic ...

I've read some vintage vs modern threads trying to stir the pot saying it's just a bunch of old farts trying to regain their lost youth ... guilty on that count too. What's wrong with that? Attitude speaks volumes.

a_retent
06-21-2009, 12:06 PM
You think Technics are bad for being bashed? Some boards you mention Radio Shack, Realistic, or Optimus and you might as well tuck your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye!


In the early to mid 90's I managed a local Rat Shack store. Had a kid come into the store looking at cassette decks and receivers. The punk proceeded to tell how much of a POS optimus products were, especially the cassette units, and how much more superior Pioneer products were. After listening to his unsubstantiated tripe for a couple of minutes I said to this idiot " take a quick look at this". When I turned the cassette unit around, to show him the back, low and behold there was a big O Pioneer logo printed on it (I knew it was there). So after bashing the product he had NOTHING to say, I just thanked him for stopping by and said have a nice day. :rockon:

Radio Shack manufactors nothing, all they do is rebrand. It just so happened that Pioneer didn't switch out the silk screening on the case before they put on the faceplates as it was a brand new product line. One of the finer TT I ever saw was the Benjamin/Miracord Elac RS sold back in the mid 70's. I'm not a public spokesman for RS; I personally don't like the upper sales management philosophy but I do believe RS had sold some really good equipment in the past.

Yes the receiver in my avatar is a Technics SA-GX550 new class A, and it does a very nice job for what I spent. Technics also made a graphic EQ that had almost identical specs to the Pioneer SG-9800.

Lest we forget it's all about the music, not the name on the front of the equipment.

70salesguy
06-21-2009, 12:34 PM
One of the reasons that Technics vintage gear doesn't get the respect you think it should is that it didn't get it when it was new!

I have no doubt that there is some excellent Technics gear out there. There are just too many people that have it, have had it and are very pleased with it. Panasonic and Matsushita certainly had the ability to build good gear.

But several factors combined to somewhat curtail their ability to build a strong reputation for their better components.

1. It was hard to break the association with Panasonic, who certainly built a lot of consumer electronics that we all enjoyed. My first real stereo was a Panasonic combo AM/FM Stereo with an 8-track recorder, the one where the 8-track "popped up" from the top. It was a great looking unit and performed very well. I later added the matching TT. But when a manufacturer has made so much gear targeted at low to mid price points, it is hard to garner respect in the upper end, no matter how good you might really be.

2. As mentioned before, their distribution channels did not land them in most good stereo stores. Their association with mass marketers and discount outfits did not help.

3. It has been said on this forum that one member here considered them better than Pioneer. Each is entitled to his own opinion, but in the mid-70s, even the BOTL SX-424, while feature-shy, was built as well as the upper level models.

Lastly, I seem to remember that sometime after I left the audio sales field, Technics went more upscale with their products.

As said before, they probably don't garner the respect that Pioneer, Kenwood, Marantz, Sansui and others receive, but that's not the real issue. The real issue is how do they sound, how well do they perform, and how pleasing are they to own and listen to?

Enjoy them!

Ender
06-21-2009, 01:24 PM
Tecnics bashers? as was said in previous post, poor product placement/distribution likely didn't help.

But as I have said a few times here before; My SU-V6X has done nothing but sound outstanding, it will power all sorts of speakers, without sounding stressed or weak it just sounds amazing to me.

Perhaps some people found there way into an unfortunate product run? I know every company has to admit to that at least once.

ryuuoh
06-21-2009, 03:57 PM
That series of Technics is pretty good. You might find this interesting:
http://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/SU-V6X.htm
Nice distortion figure.

Ender
06-21-2009, 04:03 PM
That series of Technics is pretty good. You might find this interesting:
http://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/SU-V6X.htm
Nice distortion figure.

I like the images of the inside of my receiver, I just wish I could read the text.

ryuuoh
06-21-2009, 04:22 PM
I use Firefox and this:
http://rikaichan.mozdev.org/
Works pretty good.

jhaan92
06-23-2009, 01:55 PM
Technics also made a graphic EQ that had almost identical specs to the Pioneer SG-9800.

Lest we forget it's all about the music, not the name on the front of the equipment.

True. Here are the specs for the Technics SH-8020 vs. the Pioneer SG-9800:

Technics SH-8020

Freq Response: 5Hz-100kHz, -1dB
Max output voltage: 8v @ 1kHz
THD: .01%
Signal to Noise ratio: 105dB
Max input voltage: 8v
Input Impedance: 47kΩ
Output Impedance: 47kΩ
Gain: 0, +/- 1dB
Boost & Cut: +/- 12dB, +/- 3dB
Frequency Sliders: 16, 31.5, 63, 125, 250, 500, 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k, 32k
Power Consumption: 10w

Pioneer SG-9800

Freq. Response: 5Hz-100kHz, +0, -3 dB
Max output voltage: 7.5v @ 1kHz
THD: .02%
Signal to Noise ratio: 92dB
Max input voltage: unknown
Gain: 0dB with controls flat
Input Impedance: 50kΩ
Output Impedance: 600Ω
Boost/Cut: +/-10dB
Frequency Sliders 16, 32, 64, 125, 500, 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k, 32k
Power Consumption: 25w

As you can see, the specs from the Technics just edge out the Pioneer, but I still think that the Pioneer wins on looks. It's funny, people want an arm and a leg for the Pioneer, but the Technics usually sells on ebay for less than 60 bucks. I own the Technics, and my dad owns the Pioneer, and we can't tell them apart in terms of sound quality. If you are on a budget and need or want an EQ, the Technics is the way to go. It even has the brushed silver face that makes it look modestly attractive.



-Jason

SVI2004A
06-23-2009, 02:00 PM
i have the 8020 yup, very good eq - for those who want insane - SH-8075 33band + Parametrical eq per channel :)

jhaan92
06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
i have the 8020 yup, very good eq - for those who want insane - SH-8075 33band + Parametrical eq per channel :)


Only in my wet, wildest dreams.....:D

megasat16
06-23-2009, 11:49 PM
Technics SE-A3 powering a pair of Carver Amazing Platinum Speakers = Wet Dream!

It's just wrong to think that the high end Technics doesn't stand up to other big brands. It's downright wrong to say Technics was a normal everyday brand. :) I've about 25 amps compared to it and SE-A3 it's at the same level as most American Amps (dare I say Levinson and Krell except a very few top end models).

ryuuoh
06-24-2009, 12:18 AM
This guy (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html&ei=vkxASqmKM4W2sgPLuJyPDw&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DyRc) likes his SE-A3s.
When your proprietary output modules die, he seems to have the fix.

cfowler
06-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Completely off topic, but am I right that PMSummers avatar is the German sculptur/installationist Joseph Beuys? Love that guy's face,looks like a bluesman!

SVI2004A
06-24-2009, 03:37 AM
Technics SE-A3 powering a pair of Carver Amazing Platinum Speakers = Wet Dream!

It's just wrong to think that the high end Technics doesn't stand up to other big brands. It's downright wrong to say Technics was a normal everyday brand. :) I've about 25 amps compared to it and SE-A3 it's at the same level as most American Amps (dare I say Levinson and Krell except a very few top end models).

The SE-A3MK2 was even better, lost the four OD503A transistors over to eight SanKen 2SA1295 / 2SC3624 (230V 17A 200W per Device) per channel on healthy 95V rails (over the 83v in the A3) the 2 22,000uf cappies per chan still keep it clean.

- im interested to hear the speakers though

megasat16
06-24-2009, 02:11 PM
This guy (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html&ei=vkxASqmKM4W2sgPLuJyPDw&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DyRc) likes his SE-A3s.
When your proprietary output modules die, he seems to have the fix.

Thanks! I am hoping mine won't die anytime soon. :D It's gonna be expensive fix.

I think Adrian in Canada is another Technics aficionado. I don't know if he is a member in AK also.

megasat16
06-24-2009, 02:15 PM
The SE-A3MK2 was even better, lost the four OD503A transistors over to eight SanKen 2SA1295 / 2SC3624 (230V 17A 200W per Device) per channel on healthy 95V rails (over the 83v in the A3) the 2 22,000uf cappies per chan still keep it clean.

- im interested to hear the speakers though

Yeppie! The MKII version of SE-A3 supposed to be even better than SE-A3 but I haven't come across any yet. I am looking out for the SE-A3 MKII and SE-A1 (extra rare) and the matching preamp.

The Carver Platinum is planar magnetic type with 60" ribbon so mid-range and highs are very smooth (covers 150Hz-20KHz). But I think some people may consider it too sharp or bright.

Do you have SE-A3MK2?

SVI2004A
06-24-2009, 10:27 PM
This guy (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html&ei=vkxASqmKM4W2sgPLuJyPDw&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.geocities.jp/tsoka/index.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DyRc) likes his SE-A3s.
When your proprietary output modules die, he seems to have the fix.

i can fix them too, i would use a higher grade output transistor, that 1 bolter tranny just doesnt quite cut it against the devices id use.

however, he does a damn good and thorough job of capactor replacement and checking of dry joints :) - a good site find there

ryuuoh
06-25-2009, 12:14 AM
Have you heard of amp8.com? This guy has a very thorough documentation process for his customers. And he uses macro lenses!

MasterZ
07-29-2009, 03:50 PM
I'm not a basher at all, I love Technics, they have made some great gear.
and I'm in the process of building up a TOTL silver faced system from 76'.
Now this is where I need all you supporters of the Technics marque....

Here's what I'm working on. I found a Technics HiFi Brochure from 1976 online, while looking for components of the same product range as my receiver. The brochure featured the pro equiptment (black) and the home series(silver). Check it out here. (It's a german site, so it would help if you sprechen sie Deutsche)
http://wegavision.pytalhost.com/technics.html

Well it turns out in 76' my receiver was top of the line in the home series!
And there was a list of the other products in the same range AND a picture of a complete TOTL rack system. Hell yeah!
So I'm slowly building this system up. (silver face on the right.)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/rack.jpg

So far I have the SA-5560 receiver, RS-676USD Tape deck, SH-8020 Equalizer. (-I know its not in the pic, but oh well.)

My Question is, IS that a SU-8600 amp below the tuner? or what piece of gear is that, a pre amp maybe?
Let me know what you guys think.

Peace,
Paul Z.

AK 47
07-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Like byour taste....

Looks like a Silver SU 8600 below the ST 8600. The picture is too blury to be sure. The black face on the left is a racked SU 8600 (see my AVATAR and the silver looks like my extra SU 8600 might look in a bad picture (he he).

You will love your set up when complete:thmbsp:. Chuck

MasterZ
07-30-2009, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the input AK47.

But after careful examination of the brochure its not the 5560 at all shown in the rack set up and its not an SU-8600 either.
Why would they pair up a 75wpc amp with a 85wpc receiver?
So it turns out it's a ST-3500 tuner paired with a SU-3500 55wpc amp.
Well that kind of sucks, I wanted to add another component to my system.

Any recomendations for same period components?

Paul Z.

legal eagle
07-31-2009, 05:05 PM
I'm not a basher at all, I love Technics, they have made some great gear.
and I'm in the process of building up a TOTL silver faced system from 76'.
Now this is where I need all you supporters of the Technics marque....

Here's what I'm working on. I found a Technics HiFi Brochure from 1976 online, while looking for components of the same product range as my receiver. The brochure featured the pro equiptment (black) and the home series(silver). Check it out here. (It's a german site, so it would help if you sprechen sie Deutsche)
http://wegavision.pytalhost.com/technics.html

Well it turns out in 76' my receiver was top of the line in the home series!
And there was a list of the other products in the same range AND a picture of a complete TOTL rack system. Hell yeah!
So I'm slowly building this system up. (silver face on the right.)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/rack.jpg

So far I have the SA-5560 receiver, RS-676USD Tape deck, SH-8020 Equalizer. (-I know its not in the pic, but oh well.)

My Question is, IS that a SU-8600 amp below the tuner? or what piece of gear is that, a pre amp maybe?
Let me know what you guys think.

Peace,
Paul Z.

I actually think that the black face racked amp/preamp on the left is NOT an SU-8600, but rather an SU-9600. Have a look at this, and decide for yourself The volume knob is located a bir more to the side... Hope this helps.

http://www.vintagetechnics.info/controlpower/su9600.htm

http://images.google.co.il/imgres?imgurl=http://www.audioscope.net/images/technicssu96001.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.audioscope.net/technics-su9600-original-box-p-1149.html&usg=__gtEW98n5wg06LbZGBeDI54_GV9E=&h=512&w=770&sz=56&hl=iw&start=6&um=1&tbnid=oAMQrhB_AUOgkM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=142&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtechnics%2Bsu-9600%26hl%3Diw%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

sleepyweasel
08-01-2009, 04:24 AM
I really like technics recievers, my friend scores a sa-301 or 303, and after hearing it, I was very impressed.

I caught a great deal on a sa-505(63rms) on the bay. It was very dirty, and channels kept droping out, pulled the cover and it was filthy. blew it out with an air complesser and cleaned the pots, works like new.

Great secondary reciever, would have payed 4x the price for a sansui or pioneer of same power, and it will play at max volume with no audible distortion. sounds like alot more than its claimed 63 rms.

The down side is the pots are a PITA to get to to clean, and the dial lights are soldered in and havent got around to replacing the burnt out ones yet.

MasterZ
08-28-2009, 12:31 PM
Here's my latest shots of my 76' silver faced Technics rig that I've been piecing together.
I modeled it after a brochure pic from the 76 line up, and here's where I'm at.
SA5560 Receiver, RS676 Tape Deck, SL1300 Turntable, SH8020 EQ(not shown), and an ugly plastic fantastic Pioneer PD M423 CD player
Enjoy.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/Tech1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi003.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi007.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi014-1.jpg

Anybody got a spare Technics brand rack I can have? LOL!

Paul Z

EPI-Center
08-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Here's my latest shots of my 76' silver faced Technics rig that I've been piecing together.
I modeled it after a brochure pic from the 76 line up, and here's where I'm at.
SA5560 Receiver, RS676 Tape Deck, SL1300 Turntable, SH8020 EQ(not shown), and an ugly plastic fantastic Pioneer PD M423 CD player
Enjoy.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/Tech1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi003.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi007.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi014-1.jpg

Anybody got a spare Technics brand rack I can have? LOL!

Paul Z

where'd you find that standing cabinet? I might be able to get away with something like that

Eagle1
08-28-2009, 03:14 PM
Here's my latest shots of my 76' silver faced Technics rig that I've been piecing together.
I modeled it after a brochure pic from the 76 line up, and here's where I'm at.
SA5560 Receiver, RS676 Tape Deck, SL1300 Turntable, SH8020 EQ(not shown), and an ugly plastic fantastic Pioneer PD M423 CD player
Enjoy.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/homeHiFi003.jpg
Paul ZJust a suggestion, I would move the TT off of the 5560 and put it where your LP's are if it will fit. Your TT is sitting right on top of the venting for the massive transformer inside. Not only will it breathe better but you'll be reducing the possibility of hum. I did this for awhile with my SL-23 sitting on top of my 5460 back in the 70's when I bought mine all new do to space limitations. Although I got lucky with no heat damage I did have the nasty hum. Even after moving it off of the receiver and putting the TT next to it. The cure was moving the TT as far away as the cables will allow you to. Nice looking set-up, reminds me of mine. I enjoyed my SA-5460 for many decades and still have it, but it's now been replaced by my SX-1250. Someday I'll recap it, I think I counted 150 'lytics on the main board!

MasterZ
08-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Epi the stand was a freebie that I was given. But I believe they are available at walmart. Its pretty sturdy believe it or not.

Eagle , I knew someone would say something about the ill placement of the tt. It wasn't my first choice but I don't have any other good options. It doesn't fit in the shelves .tOo wide.
I don't crank the system to its potential and I usually listen at a low level so overheating is not that big an issue. I moved the turntable as far forward as not to cover the vent. Haven't noticed a hum, but the placement is only temp.
So. You got a Technics rack u want to get rid of?

Dr. Music
08-29-2009, 05:37 PM
I love the looks of the SA-xx60 and xx70 series receivers. I have an SA-5560 as well, but would love to have an SA-5770. Very conservative in appearance which is quite attractive if you ask me :).

Goonda
09-01-2009, 04:37 AM
Just scored my 6th vintage ss receiver: Technics SA-404. I wasn't looking for it, but as I "casually glanced" at Craigslist, it just popped out at me. Guy sold me a very clean, great sounding 404 with a Technics tape deck for $30. I'm thinking this unit will make a nice sound system for my ultra-clean garage, or workshop, or as a gift (along with a pair of my home-built Vifa-driven speakers) to someone in my family...

Anyone here know the exact specs on this unit (where can I find them?). Any tips/hints on cleaning? I've cleaned out a Marantz, some Sansuis, and a Yamaha (all around my house)...

This really is a clean unit. I think I scored a pretty decent buy here...

chasaboo
10-04-2009, 03:57 PM
So I've been looking for awhile for a Technics receiver but I've been finding a lot of thrashed examples, not cool. I finally got a SA-400 for a nice price and it's in pretty decent shape. Couple of nicks on the face and some marks in the wood but nothing that would keep me from buying it!

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2065/technicssa400mine.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/i/technicssa400mine.jpg/)

I've been doing some listening with the little booger and I like it. One thing I noticed is that it gets pretty loud pretty darn fast. I like a little more volume dial rotation generally speaking but that's a small point.

I'm going to run this in my bedroom for a little while to see how he goes.

All and all, I like it. Nice looks, good sound and heck it's even got an original sticker still stuck on the face. How can you go wrong? :thmbsp:

Rome
10-04-2009, 04:07 PM
Very nice indeed, chasaboo!

Rome

chasaboo
10-04-2009, 04:35 PM
Thank you sir.

Listening to some classical music right now reading the Sunday paper, not bad at all.

I'm sure it would be better suited to some rock and or roll but it works well. Maybe later I'll put some vinyl on to see how it likes Dire Straits. :D

automojo
10-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Actually when you compare the amplifier section of the SAxx series vs the Pioneer SX-x50 series, the SA usually has a bit more power before clipping, and into 4 ohms.
I remember the advertisements-Pioneer vs Technics, and them mentioning the masonite bottom of the Technics, perhaps that was the begining of the bashing-or Thrusters speakers.
Technics made some great gear, and had a different, but nice unique styling to it. I have a mint SA-600 that's in moth balls (bought new for my father in 1978) thats has some sort of power supply issue (no lights/power or green protection light)at some point I will tackle-will make a great system for the kids when they grow up. It really had a exceptional tuner, particuliary on AM-very quiet and sensitive.
I think as the OP points out, matching componets has a lot to do with it-to get the best sound.

Dr. Music
10-04-2009, 05:09 PM
So I've been looking for awhile for a Technics receiver but I've been finding a lot of thrashed examples, not cool. I finally got a SA-400 for a nice price and it's in pretty decent shape. Couple of nicks on the face and some marks in the wood but nothing that would keep me from buying it!
I've been doing some listening with the little booger and I like it. One thing I noticed is that it gets pretty loud pretty darn fast. I like a little more volume dial rotation generally speaking but that's a small point.

I'm going to run this in my bedroom for a little while to see how he goes.

All and all, I like it. Nice looks, good sound and heck it's even got an original sticker still stuck on the face. How can you go wrong? :thmbsp:

My second receiver ever was an SA-500 which I bought when they first hit the marketplace - I saw it in the summer of '78 and promptly bought one. Loved the thing, used it for many years until the controls got dirty and I retired it. Had I known then what I know now I might still be using it! I have a lot of love for the SAx00 line. Love the looks and they could crank!

Ed in Tx
10-04-2009, 06:24 PM
My one piece of Technics equipment, actually a demo unit for quad. Pretty limited even in 1974 when it was made. It worked last time I had it hooked up in 1983. Makes color quadraphonic patterns of red, green and blue. Far out!

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=175420&stc=1&d=1256233126

wksmith27
10-22-2009, 12:56 AM
Hi,I'm a newbie here and I'm trying to find the specs for a Technics SA-936 AM/FM Receiver,I've looked all over the web with know results.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,wksmith27

elwood127
10-22-2009, 02:36 AM
If you can figure out this site it may help. I used it for my su-7100.
http://www.euras.com/repair_tips_1/TECHNICS/SU7100/SU7100_TECHNICS.htm

wksmith27
10-22-2009, 04:24 AM
If you can figure out this site it may help. I used it for my su-7100.
http://www.euras.com/repair_tips_1/TECHNICS/SU7100/SU7100_TECHNICS.htm

I tried to get in the site but got tripped up on the registeration.Thanks anyway

kermit z
10-22-2009, 07:48 AM
Maybe a picture of it could help us narrow down the series :)

wksmith27
10-22-2009, 01:34 PM
I hope this helps!!!

dspear99ca
10-22-2009, 02:27 PM
I hope this helps!!!

I'm a big fan of Technis gear, but man, that SA-936 is one butt-ugly receiver. The proverbial dog's breakfast regurgitated. Wonder why they felt compelled to use every color in the rainbow... red, blue, green, yellow, it's all there. Black background on the bass/treble/balance sliders, white background on the (totally different style) volume slider. Big buttons, little buttons, microswitches & mechanicals. This is the WORST of the 80's, aesthetically.

Just my 2 cents.

boreas
10-22-2009, 03:34 PM
I put together a system for the son of a friend of mine. He's a serious and talented jazz reed player.

The system consisted of a Technics SA-600 receiver, Pioneer PL-400 turntable, a Yamaha CDX-730 CD player and Klipsch KG-3 speakers. It sounded truly amazing.

All of the components were minty and all came from various Goodwill stores in the area. I think my total outlay was right around $90.00.

It changed my mind about Technics. That SA-600 was a really nice receiver!

I had had a Technics receiver back in the late '70s as a replacement for a Marantz 2270 which had been stolen from my apartment along with a lot of other stuff. In retrospect I think I never gave that Technics a chance but I never liked it. I think the fact that it was an unplanned replacement for my beloved 2270 doomed it to the status of poor substitute.

When I put all the gear together and demoed it for my friend I was sorely tempted to renege but a deal's a deal so all I could do was hope he didn't want it. He did. :(

Anyway, his son loved it so that makes it worthwhile. I also included copies of several Eric Dolphy LPs and since then my friend's son has picked up a bass clarinet. That makes it doubly worthwhile. ;)

John

Bogframe
10-22-2009, 04:30 PM
I got a pair of Technics A30 speakers last year and love them, FWIW.

Dr. Music
10-22-2009, 06:52 PM
I'm a big fan of Technics gear, but man, that SA-936 is one butt-ugly receiver. The proverbial dog's breakfast regurgitated. Wonder why they felt compelled to use every color in the rainbow... red, blue, green, yellow, it's all there. Black background on the bass/treble/balance sliders, white background on the (totally different style) volume slider. Big buttons, little buttons, microswitches & mechanicals. This is the WORST of the 80's, aesthetically.

Just my 2 cents.

Same here - I'm a Technics lover for 30+ years running, but I hated when they came out with aesthetics like that. The sliders and sticking pushbuttons felt as cheap as the metal they were using to make the faceplates during that period! I owned one, and while it performed okay, it didn't have the sound of the SA-500 it replaced. As I recall, it didn't have a very long lifespan, and I wasn't sorry for having an excuse to replace it. I hate to admit it but cosmetically I preferred the blackface models when they came along to replace the slider years! :P

wksmith27
10-22-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm a big fan of Technis gear, but man, that SA-936 is one butt-ugly receiver. The proverbial dog's breakfast regurgitated. Wonder why they felt compelled to use every color in the rainbow... red, blue, green, yellow, it's all there. Black background on the bass/treble/balance sliders, white background on the (totally different style) volume slider. Big buttons, little buttons, microswitches & mechanicals. This is the WORST of the 80's, aesthetically.

Just my 2 cents.

I'm new to collecting vintage stereo equipment found the sa-936 at a estate sale for 5 bucks,couldn't pass it up.It may not be the best looking receiver sounds good though.Thanks for your reply!!!

MasterZ
10-23-2009, 01:43 AM
Oh man! Now the supporters of the marque are hating! We're in trouble.:D

Only thing that matters is if sounds good to you.:music:

Dr. Music
10-23-2009, 02:44 AM
Oh man! Now the supporters of the marque are hating! We're in trouble.:D

Only thing that matters is if sounds good to you.:music:

After all, everybody made some products that even the rabid diehards (like me) have trouble defending. If I hadn't owned a few of those mid-80's Technics receivers when they were new on the shelves, I would still think they were ugly but hold my opinion on how well or poorly they sounded or were built. I will say my 80's stuff was MOTL Technics, so I can't speak for their flagship models...other than to say they were STILL ugly with those cheesy looking faceplates! :)

The MOTL 80's Technics components I owned lacked character both in style and sound - harsh but functional would be a good description. I had a few of the tape decks with similar styling and again, they didn't have a long lifespan. I honestly think Technics was building better components in the 90's than they were in the mid 80's.

Seriously, does THIS look like a 100 watt TOTL receiver to you guys? :P

SVI2004A
10-23-2009, 04:27 AM
I wonder if it was known as another model

I Have SA-560 (also badged as SA-956) 70W/CH
i know the SA-946 50W/ch

i disagree with that cheap, poor comment of it being ugly. The sound of my SA-560/SA-956 is Superb!!!

- and shame on the commenter of its aesthetics, NO TECHNICS BASHING capish?!

SVI2004A

SVI2004A
10-23-2009, 04:31 AM
oh, by the by.... can you see the IC number in the heatsink? itll be STK**** or SVI*** if you let me know that number i can tell you the amplifier rated power

kermit z
10-23-2009, 08:37 AM
All thats important is that it sounds good to you :)

wksmith27
10-23-2009, 12:23 PM
oh, by the by.... can you see the IC number in the heatsink? itll be STK**** or SVI*** if you let me know that number i can tell you the amplifier rated power

It is SVI 3001: Thanks wksmith27

crazyjeeper
10-23-2009, 12:31 PM
I love my Technics junk. For the price, its hard to find better sounding equipment.

SVI2004A
10-23-2009, 01:26 PM
SVI3001 ~ PIN COMPATIBLE with STK4151 etc (4101 - 4192) difference is complimentry symmetry new class A 25W/CH if needed a fast avail replacement id tack in STK4191II till i can find SVI3005 (100/CH IC)

PioneerGuy85
10-29-2009, 07:31 PM
LOL you think that be all

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/Wall1.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacks.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksB.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacksII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksBII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000938.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000965.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1010110.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/ThunderFlight.jpg

Technics bashers may say im Synchro Biased - i say the sound speaks for itself

-Baily

:yikes:

Don't ever let me into your house. EVER. http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/mr740ti/ninja.gif

wksmith27
10-29-2009, 08:33 PM
I'd say I'd died in gone to Technics Heaven !!!!!!!!!!

crazyjeeper
10-30-2009, 12:47 AM
I actually just got my Technics going again today after a problem with the volume control stuck and then blowing speaker protection fuses, but all is well now.

Here it is back in its rightful place on my desk.

http://thumb.phyrefile.com/c/cr/crazyjeeper/2009/10/29/DSCF0223.JPG (http://img.phyrefile.com/crazyjeeper/2009/10/29/DSCF0223.JPG)

Synchro-bias
11-08-2009, 10:40 PM
:banana::banana::banana:
awesoem baily :D i see the V4X box:tears: still waiting mine

LOL you think that be all

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/Wall1.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacks.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksB.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/SpareRacksII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/RacksBII.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000938.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1000965.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/P1010110.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k432/DeviceNet/ThunderFlight.jpg

Technics bashers may say im Synchro Biased - i say the sound speaks for itself

-Baily

jimfet
11-09-2009, 08:30 AM
I have a Technics ST-9038 tuner on the way. Supposed to be one of the best.

cornwallguy
11-09-2009, 06:51 PM
hi jimfet it was a good unit for sure, in fact i know of one FM station here that uses it as their off air monitor.
Ive allways liked Technics which seem to stand in the shadow of the others.
i owned a SE-9060 power amp that i used for my cornwall horns and tweeters.
dual mono design split back to the line cord. very well constructed and very flat.
standouts also were the honeycomb disk speakers, thier 10" studio reel to reels and possible the best turntable in broadcasting the SP 10mk2
Its a line that originally seemed like a boutique line of upper end components, but then along came those rack systems found in the mass retailers, i beleive it confused their direction or purpose of the line.

Jerwardemy
11-09-2009, 07:07 PM
I have a Technics SA-912...I think it sounds fairly good...I'm guessing it's a BOTL though...I can't find any information on this model...does anyone know the WPC, THD or anything?

jabbo5150
11-11-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm waiting for this lovely gal to show up via carrier soon. A Technics SU-V7...... I'd been thinking my next amp would be a Kenwood, but couldn't resist the condition of this unit when I saw it, and it being a Technics, no one was running the bid up into the stratosphere.... I wound up paying a whopping $52 plus shipping on ebay. This will be my second Technics amp and I'm guessing it will be very similar to my SU-8088, but since its one of the 'New Class A' amps it might have a different sound. Any SU-Vx owners out there willing to share their opinions and data with me? :)

Was just doing some research on my system and found this post. I have an SU-V75 that I am the original owner of. 23 years later, it is still going strong. I've only ever replaced the power button on it. Anyone else have one of these?

Also have an SL-1700 and SL-BD25 turntables and an SL-PG350 CD player

MasterZ
12-01-2009, 12:46 PM
I picked up this excellent condition receiver on Craigslist for 30 bones! Owner sold it cheap because it had bad static in the controls. I took it apart and cleaned all contacts and pots and changed some lamps, now its good as new! It's in better shape than my other Technics 5560 receiver. Plus it has 100 watts per channel which is noticeable compared to my 85wpc 5560.
It also has a THD% of .04, a pretty decent jump from the .1 of the midfi 5560.
I'm happy with every aspect of it including the ability to use it as a pre-amp, it has nice power, awesome looks and is in very good working condition. :music:

Only down side is I have to get rid of my 5560. :tears:
I cant have extra gear lying around, just not enough space. But she sure did have a good run and it will be missed.
I'm still on the look out for an elusive SA-1000(330wpc monster), but will also change up if an SA-800(125wpc) comes my way.
I love these old Technics! :banana:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/DSCF1934.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/DSCF1935.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/DSCF1939.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/DSCF1944.jpg

elduce
12-01-2009, 01:30 PM
MasterZ Thats a real nice SA 700.They sure sound sweet.Here's a picture of mine,SA 700A black face.The SA 700A is pushing a set of marantz M16's:music:http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d639b3127ccec7b0b48ec57300000040O08AYtWzJo1buQ e3nw4/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Chad Michael
12-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Technics... the science of sound :smoke:

SL-7 turntable - original owner
SA-222 receiver - picked up on the bay for $39 about 2 years ago

Both are still going strong and sounding great.

M-260 cassette deck - just won on the bay, waiting for it to land on my porch so I can enjoy some old favorite cassettes :yes:.

Vintage_Hi-F
12-01-2009, 05:32 PM
As stated earlier Panasonic really never took the time to make a real clear distinction between Technics and them selves, and from what I've seen I'd agree. Most of the gear released by Technics was fairly high class and in some cases it was up their with your lower mid-level Marantz and Sansui gear IMHO. Though it's a little difficult to say youre up their with the best of them when Panasonic would release a near identical model that "came up a little short" to put it charitably.

kermit z
12-01-2009, 08:35 PM
That looks great :) Congrates

ryuuoh
12-01-2009, 11:06 PM
I have a Technics SA-912...I think it sounds fairly good...I'm guessing it's a BOTL though...I can't find any information on this model...does anyone know the WPC, THD or anything?

Whats it look like?

barredowl
02-24-2010, 09:04 PM
Picked up an SA-7000 for 4 bucks todays at Value Village a little deoxit and it sounds quite nice it's a keeper. In fact it's displacing my Pioneer SA 9500 II integrated amp which is no slouch but IMO the Technics sounds a little better (more bass and detail) through AUX and perhaps a tad bright on phono but nothing tone controls won't clean up. 2 x 15,000 capacitors and 40 lbs Tuner sounds great, no complaints. Can't justify hanging onto the more expensive Pioneer SA-9500 II and Sansui TU 7500 when this sounds just as good.

hbrocks
02-24-2010, 09:22 PM
here's the one I found....power's on but have yet to hook anything up to her.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YLWnuoc5ksI/S4RyZU9weaI/AAAAAAAAdAk/Ljlmc6PKkd0/IMG_1702.JPG

y2keglide
02-24-2010, 10:29 PM
I picked up an SA-616 on eBay a while back for eight bucks and some change with local pickup.
It just needed some deoxit cleaning and was a one owner never apart before.
I was surprised that these get so little respect,the 616 is 80wpc and sounds awesome,I was most impressed with it.
I tried to resell it on CL but couldn't generate any interest in it,finally I gave it and $40 for a set of speakers a guy was asking $100 for.
I wouldn't of hesitated to keep it if I needed a receiver,it really sounded very nice.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/y2keglide/es059.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/y2keglide/es071.jpg

Horn Head
02-24-2010, 11:13 PM
Got an SU-V8 Integrated amp about 25 years ago from a guy who owed me $50 (funny, the rest of his system sat there without its 'heart'). Absolutely love that amp and it's still going strong. It was that "New Class A" stuff they came out with.

Didn't know folks were out there bashing Technics stuff...too bad. But as one poster put it; good for the folks who like them - keeps prices down...

zebra03
02-25-2010, 09:55 AM
At my office , I use a Technics sa-3036 receiver ( $20 ) and Genesis 10 ( $100 bought refoamed ) everyday 8 hours 10 years . Excellant stuff. My Technics 5 disc sl-pd687 balks every once in a while but for $10 its fine. In my main system , I have a sl-ps840 that has been working flawlessly every day since I bought new almost 20 years ago. My turn table is a sl-5 ($20 ). I have always had good luck with my Technics equipment whether it was new or used.:banana:

zebra03
02-25-2010, 10:05 AM
:yikes:

Don't ever let me into your house. EVER. http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/mr740ti/ninja.gif

I think it moved !! That is great.

HomeBody
02-26-2010, 09:28 AM
...All of this out of mint 30 year old equipment that would look classy on ANY high-end audio showroom shelf. Sorry Technics bashers - All I have to say is that I guess you've never heard the good stuff...
Damn Good Review. Excellent perspective. Now show me that trick w/the doors opening again-http://www.frontiernet.net/~dreagh/IGGY/whistle.gif
..You think Technics are bad for being bashed? Some boards you mention Radio Shack, Realistic, or Optimus and you might as well tuck your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye!...
Alot of folks don't know anymore about Hi-Fidelity than they do about fornicating.
..I think Technics can hold their own with a lot of the gear out there...
Technics can and will hold their own and more.

glen65
02-26-2010, 10:37 AM
Sorry Technics bashers - All I have to say is that I guess you've never heard the good stuff.

I nor anyone I know who's involved with audio has
bashed them. So I don't know what you're talking about.

jdwk
03-25-2010, 08:18 AM
and even though alot of people dont like record changers, the SL 5350 is a real nice table, if you need a changer its a great choice.

Deep
03-25-2010, 09:15 AM
I love Technics! My friend has a Technics Surround Receiver. It's really nice!

zz28zz
03-25-2010, 06:33 PM
I picked up a set of Technics SB-X500 speakers in near mint condition from a goodwill for $25. I had no idea at the time just how sweet they would sound
off my Yamaha A-1000. 5 years later and they are still part of my main 2-ch sys (used for upper mids/highs).
I have a feeling I'm gonna have to spend some serious cash to replace them with something that sounds better!

legal eagle
03-27-2010, 04:43 PM
I picked up a set of Technics SB-X500 speakers in near mint condition from a goodwill for $25. I had no idea at the time just how sweet they would sound
off my Yamaha A-1000. 5 years later and they are still part of my main 2-ch sys (used for upper mids/highs).
I have a feeling I'm gonna have to spend some serious cash to replace them with something that sounds better!

Not surprised one bit. Technics speakers are sleepers, mostly because their enclosures do not age well. Nontheless, sound wise, they are some of the best bang for the buck finds out there.

Artie
03-27-2010, 09:34 PM
Just snagged an SU-7100 integrated amp on the 'bay . . . for 50 cents. :thmbsp:

I'll post pics and a review once I get her all cleaned up and tested. I did notice one thing though. I've been studying the schematic all week, in anticipation of its arrival, and I notice that one of their cost-cutting techniques was to completely eliminate the preamp. The tape/tuner inputs go straight to the vol/bal controls, then into the amp section. The tone controls are in the NF loop.

More info to come as I get her wringed out.

SVI2004A
03-27-2010, 11:57 PM
that is one thing i find annoying... looped tone control, that setup is just asking for trouble

Artie
03-28-2010, 08:08 AM
Yup, and I thinks thats partly why the lower line Technics gets a bad rap. Its a standard baxandal style tone circuit, with 100% passive components. That takes a lot of signal to drive, which means that there's lots of NF, which means you've converted your amp into a compressor. I'm sure that accounts for the lifeless, compressed sound of the unit.

On the other hand, that might actually be good for this units target market. This was intended to get younger folk into the world of seperates. So the target customer might be a teenager who uses it in their bedroom or a college student who uses it in their dorm. They'ld probably be listening to pop music, in the background, while chatting with friends. The unit would probably be mated with small bookshelf speakers, so the compression could actually be a plus.

But from an audiophile point of view, they were lacking. Its too bad really. Technics might be said to have really designed the unit perfectly for its target market.

junkaudio
07-01-2010, 06:31 AM
i just bought a mint su-8077 integrated amp
sound and builquality is a bargain for 60 bucks
technics was really into it with that serie :banana:


inside pic :http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vintagetechnics.info/images/su8077inside.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vintagetechnics.info/integrated/su8077.htm&h=725&w=700&sz=62&tbnid=76eFTnBCte2uRM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtechnics%2Bsu8077&usg=__j0nrhLjGRlB9o4lJoCSUurPc008=&sa=X&ei=52wsTLO9CcugsQbr6snUAg&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAw

junkaudio
07-02-2010, 04:30 PM
check this one:
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freewebs.com/mondaca/technics_011.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freewebs.com/mondaca/&h=461&w=614&sz=177&tbnid=s4IS2fH8H4lOLM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtechnics%2Bse-a3&usg=__ot_nZ05nC541GarHjHYdmJlIfYg=&sa=X&ei=V0suTKT7FsKjOIXqlfkB&ved=0CDgQ9QEwBg

teashea
07-03-2010, 09:15 AM
I have always admired Technics. Back when they were in production I always thought they had the reputation as a notch above the standard. I recently purchased a old mint Technics receiver and it is terrific.

Tom

SVI2004A
07-04-2010, 04:53 AM
There is one on the bay atm, SELLING cheap as for parts!!! ALL because the light bulb behind the LCD is blown! (they go on to say sound is there at both outputs) wish i lived in USA cos shipping is NOT CHEAP, i have one atm and would love to score another

vincei
07-04-2010, 10:08 AM
I like Technics as well, always had their Turntables and now a friend of mine was upgrading his system and gave me his complete Technics rack system from the late 80's I beleive. I have yet to go through it, but I was happy to take it. The system is not TOTL or anything, but looks decent, the speakers are huge 4 way boxes, that I plan to refurbish and see what they can do, I may even modify them to Ewaves somehow....

nclh77
07-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Good stuff. Sold like crazy in the military PX system.

dsdurkes
07-24-2010, 02:05 PM
I just picked this up from a CL post. For $37 I am well pleased with the sound, the receiver sections. Very nice - admittedly I run it at very low levels and only drive BA HD7 bookshelfs. This will be a B'day present for my daughter who's into vinyl and, as such, a perfect fit (I hope!).

boreas
07-24-2010, 02:20 PM
I just picked this up from a CL post. For $37 I am well pleased with the sound, the receiver sections. Very nice - admittedly I run it at very low levels and only drive BA HD7 bookshelfs. This will be a B'day present for my daughter who's into vinyl and, as such, a perfect fit (I hope!).

That receiver comes from a very well-regarded series. It includes the "monster" 330WPC SA-1000! I had the mid-level SA-600. It was very nice indeed.

John

cornwallguy
07-24-2010, 06:22 PM
I have always admired Technics. Back when they were in production I always thought they had the reputation as a notch above the standard. I recently purchased a old mint Technics receiver and it is terrific.

Tom

Hi Tom, i did a thread here i think at the first of the month about technics
i know their Pro broadcast gear was 1st rate and theres not much out there that could touch it.But as someone said, just like Sony ,Aiwa, etc all ran themselves into trouble ,marketing upper line gear and mass gear under one name.
IT made it even harder for the upper line to be able to gain respect.
As with alot of things now, too few people trying to be too many things for too many people too much of the time.

darkerror05
08-27-2010, 02:22 AM
I just bought a Technics SA-410 at SA for $25. I may not know a lot about high quality stuff yet, but I can tell that it drive my Mach II's better than my Sansui A-1100P that is for sure. The Technic's sound is much less muddy, leaving a crisper sound. Most likely this is because the Technics seems like much simpler of an amp compared to the Sansui's "Parametric Equalizer" and such.

mrj2010
08-28-2010, 04:13 PM
My Technics system consists of a Technics SU-V650 amp, CDP SL-PG570A, Cassette is RS-BX501

Proud of it and holds its own and wipes the floor with most system of today to be honest, a friend of mien bought a system for round about £4-500 and he thought it was best thing since sliced read - then he saw and heard my system and it drew him to tears :)

You cannay beat a good ole' Technics system

Artie
08-28-2010, 06:45 PM
Enen though its just "entry level", I like my SU-7100/ST-7300 combo. I'm still fixing them up, but the amp is done. Unfortunately, the AM is out on the tuner and RF is my weak area. :tears:

djMikulec
08-28-2010, 07:46 PM
This is kinda long... :D

I've always had a weak spot in my heart for Technics, one that goes back to my junior year of high school, 1977.

My introduction:

On a trip to the local dump (up in northwestern PA) one winter afternoon I spied a huge pair of speakers sitting off by themselves amidst all the trash. After a quick check with the attendant they were in the back of our truck and on their way back to my room.

They turned out to be a pair of Technics Phase Linear SB5000a speakers that had been through a fire at a local nightclub in a neighboring small town. They were discolored and smoke damaged but worked perfectly.

They came with a huge Pioneer receiver and a tape deck but that's another story.

Anyway, fast forward to today - I get a call from a friend of mine offering me an amp that he found at a yard sale. Turns out to be a Technics SU-7600 and the matching tuner. Can't wait to get them home tomorrow. They'll be replacing a newer, el-cheapo asian Kenwood receiver as I move step by step back to older amp technology and eventually.... tubes. :thmbsp:

Infinitoid
09-01-2010, 09:59 AM
I'm happy with every aspect of it including the ability to use it as a pre-amp, it has nice power, awesome looks and is in very good working condition. :music:

I love these old Technics! :banana:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/the40ozpro/DSCF1939.jpg


And the biggest plus in your Technics setup is the 1300 turntable. Mine has been in constant use for just over 35 years. Some minor issues, yes, but what a trooper!

stereorob
09-01-2010, 01:01 PM
i think technics is nice stuff overall, but it dosnt impress me, i think they are overrated.
nice sa-800 btw, thats one of the good ones!!

silverface80
09-01-2010, 02:11 PM
I have a SA404 and it sounds nice to me with my celestion 7, maybe nothing magical but definitely sounds nicer than an AV amp. And I like the look of the silver face.

I am waiting for the shipment of my SUV8....

stabby
09-01-2010, 02:17 PM
That's a sweet looking ride! And I agree, everyone gets wrapped up on some name brands or certain models and some great gear gets overlooked.

Let's keep that between ourselves and keep the prices low!

silverface80
09-03-2010, 02:31 PM
Had been using the KG4's in the 90's, but with 40w I failed to make it bright...

how you succeed?

so_ein_pech
09-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Alls I can say is, Technics SU-7700 + Advent Legacy II's = goosebumps.

My one question is this:

Is it pronounced "Teck-NICKs" or "Teck-NIQUEs"?

(To any francophones reading this: Pardon my French!)

Elliot Thompson
09-06-2010, 02:55 PM
Alls I can say is, Technics SU-7700 + Advent Legacy II's = goosebumps.

My one question is this:

Is it pronounced "Teck-NICKs" or "Teck-NIQUEs"?

(To any francophones reading this: Pardon my French!)


Teck-NIQUES


Best Regards,

so_ein_pech
09-06-2010, 03:06 PM
Hmm, I've always said it the other way. I'm willing to accept that its "Tech-NIQUES" even though phonetically it doesn't make any sense--when do English phonetics ever make sense? But it begs the question: does that mean we should also be saying Panasonic like "Panasonique"? It seems like they should follow the same rules of pronunciation...

Elliot Thompson
09-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Hmm, I've always said it the other way. I'm willing to accept that its "Tech-NIQUES" even though phonetically it doesn't make any sense--when do English phonetics ever make sense? But it begs the question: does that mean we should also be saying Panasonic like "Panasonique"? It seems like they should follow the same rules of pronunciation...


The accent is on the "i" (for example irregular).

I would imagine you could call it “tech-NICKS.” However, if someone gives you a bewildered look saying "tech-NICKS" you'll know they are accustomed to hearing techniques (Technics).

Bear in mind, accents in the English language will vary globally. I was born in England. It took me a long time to understand the American accent once I moved to the States. :)



Best Regards,

terra1
09-06-2010, 05:09 PM
Here's the original Technics Pronounciation [sic] thread that lasted for 8 WTF pages:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=243168
It has all the pronunciation jokes and analysis you can possibly imagine.

Also seems to be enough passion for hackers to change the wikipedia entry going back and forth. At one time it said the manufacturer said like techniques, and then got changed and substituted to tech-niks by someone.

You'll get dual pronunciations in the dictionary also.

I will bump the Technics pronunciation thread for the benefit of those interested. It will appear in the General Audio section.

audio3000
09-09-2010, 12:17 AM
Picked up the following Technics compoents in the past weekend:

- SU 7300
- ST 7300
- SB-636 (omni-directional 3 ways tower, bass down-firing)
- cassette desk 671
- equalizer SH 8017

The amp and speaker sound very nice: sweet, clean and relaxing. I am listening to them while writing this.

I pick them up mainly for their "Technics" look at the time.. but I am now very impressed its sound quality.

A3K...

============================
Pioneer SX-1010, Marantz 2325, Denon DCD 3520, Tannoy T165

Orangie
09-09-2010, 02:11 AM
This tread makes me very happy. After 25 years of neglecting all my old 1970's stuff (letting it get away, that is) I saw something on AK about a week ago that piqued my interest so I started looking on Craigslist for vintage audio stuff.

Picked up a very clean SA-400 cheap to see how it would compare to my '90s JVC receiver and was really blown away. I had never thought of Technics as I was drooling over my brother-in-law's Marantz receiver, so I figured I had purchased something really low-end. This thread makes me think I actually did pretty well, although my ears suggested the same thing. The one thing I've kept all these years is my set of JBL 4311b's and was very pleased with the matchup.

beans
09-09-2010, 02:18 AM
http://www.j-corder.com/Gallery_of_Custom_Decks.php

jammasterj13
09-09-2010, 09:27 AM
Nowt wrong with Technics gear as long as it's not the cheap and nasty stuff.

National Panasonic, that's what I'm talkin' about!

Edriz
09-09-2010, 09:45 AM
In most forums on the Internet some single company or set of equipment gets a bruising and over time the unsuitablity of this same equipment takes on urban legend proportions. People need something to agree on in the negative I guess. On AK and elsewhere (although AK is king) Technics seems to have fallen victim to this phenomenon...

I picked up a gorgeous Yamaha CR1020 receiver the other day - mint of course, and hooked it up to my regular system for a try out. I'll post pics later. Then hooked up Akai AA1200 to do a side by side test. The Akai has never done well on my Angstrom speakers - too much bass and forget about the loudness switch -the speakers just want to pop out and the whole thing sounds like ass. So...out come the Kabuki Sansui XP's.

I know these aren't the best speakers around but the 120wpc Akai makes 'em work - the setup rocks, clear and tight - loudness switch in and the sliding glass doors start to rattle. But most importantly the sound is GOOD - phono or CD. This Akai just needs the right speakers.

So next I unpacked the 125wpc Technics SA-800...center the control knobs - nice resistance and tactile feel, each knob is even after all these years and 1000's of hours of play time. (I'm first owner from '78) Hook up the XP's, the Angstroms too, next the phono and the Nakamichi CD deck and an FM dipole. Volume down and....contact. All lights and LEDS looking good - give Madonna a whack on her big behind - and turn up the big knob. Magic - kickass magic - hit the acoustic control (tone defeat for bass/mid/treb and 2 boost switches) and roll on some tone controls. Yeah the little engineers at Matsushita knew what they were doing. Acoustic control off and hit the loudness switch - roll the power to 4 - sliding doors start to open by themselves. What about the sound at this volume? SOLID, punchy, clear, no hint of distortion, fun to listen to. Turn down the volume a bit and click over to the Angstroms - beautiful sound. Puts the Akai in it's place.

All of this out of mint 30 year old equipment that would look classy on ANY high-end audio showroom shelf. Sorry Technics bashers - All I have to say is that I guess you've never heard the good stuff.

You got to be kidding right? :scratch2:

I own Bose 901's series Vs and used to have the series IV's. IMO these are an awesome set of speakers if they are used and set up the way they should be.

You have no idea what bashing is! :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

BP101
09-09-2010, 11:20 AM
Man, what a long string!

I was using a Technics SA-200 until I gave it to my son. Then I recently picked up two Technics amps, an SU-Z1 and an SU-Z25. The Z25 is really bare-bones (no meters, just a few outputs), and only about 25-30 watts. But after I cleaned it up, I compared it with my Harman Kardon 350i, and was surprised at what an impressive little performer it was. It had a lot more punch than the HK, a brighter and more vivid sound. I'm not saying it was better or worse than the HK, which I have always liked. Maybe it was just a better match for those particular speakers. But its clarity and performance were not what one would associate with "low-end".

I can't wait to get the Z-1 up and running.

tututpouet
09-09-2010, 11:26 AM
I also have this little SU-Z25, works fine and I don't need more power.

Infinitoid
09-09-2010, 10:28 PM
Got my SU-V76 integrated amp back in the vintage system. Santana's Supernatural is sounding pretty good on a pair of 1972 Large Advents right now. "Super Bass" switch is on. Don't know anything about their "New Class A" circuits, but I'm happy with the sound.

jabbo5150
09-09-2010, 10:55 PM
Got my SU-V76 integrated amp back in the vintage system. Santana's Supernatural is sounding pretty good on a pair of 1972 Large Advents right now. "Super Bass" switch is on. Don't know anything about their "New Class A" circuits, but I'm happy with the sound.

I have had an SU-V75 for 24 years now that has worked like a charm. I've only ever had to replace the power switch on it. I am the original owner

tututpouet
09-10-2010, 12:59 AM
Man, what a long string!

I was using a Technics SA-200 until I gave it to my son. Then I recently picked up two Technics amps, an SU-Z1 and an SU-Z25. The Z25 is really bare-bones (no meters, just a few outputs), and only about 25-30 watts. But after I cleaned it up, I compared it with my Harman Kardon 350i, and was surprised at what an impressive little performer it was. It had a lot more punch than the HK, a brighter and more vivid sound. I'm not saying it was better or worse than the HK, which I have always liked. Maybe it was just a better match for those particular speakers. But its clarity and performance were not what one would associate with "low-end".

I can't wait to get the Z-1 up and running.

BTW, the SU-Z25 is not a 30W amp, but 80W at ease per chanel, maximum power consumption on my unit (euro 220v) is 260W according to the rear panel.
Could get a maximum 90 to 100W (4 ohm) / chanel.

Van_Isle
10-11-2010, 09:03 PM
Just about got it up and running ... finally (see http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3446500&postcount=1728) ... it's taken me a while.

Pots and switches are cleaned. Next to adjust idle and DC offset.

ryuuoh
10-11-2010, 10:00 PM
Just about got it up and running ... finally (see http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3446500&postcount=1728) ... it's taken me a while.

Pots and switches are cleaned. Next to adjust idle and DC offset.

I have one of those, and listen t it every day with a pair of Bozak MB80 mini monitors. I had lots of fun cleaning and recapping it.
Yours looks like it was in better shape than mine. Enjoy it, it's a good amp!

Towerguy
12-18-2010, 10:35 PM
I guess I've lead a sheltered life, I didn't know there were any Technics bashers out there, at least, not any numbers worth considering. I have been a Technics fan since 1978 when I was stationed with the USAF in W. Germany in 1978.

I was at Ramstein AB and they had an awesome audio-photo club on base. I intitially was considering the more mainstream companies such as Pioneer and looked very hard at Marantz, Carver and some of the other higher end brands. At one point, I figured I would have to go with several brands in order to get the best I could afford. It was at this point I also started looking at Technics. The harder I looked, the more I realized Technics had the most bang for the buck. for an open reel, while looking at mainly Pioneer RT-909, Revox and Teac, I quickly found Technics had exactly what I wanted in the RS-1700. The same was true for turntables and I found I didn't need to buy different brands since Technics had the best specs by a wide margin in their price range. In fact, I'd have to double my money to find another competitive brand.

With my components now selected (Technics Pro Series System), it was on to the speakers. Again, initially it was Pioneer but quickly changed to JBL and Klipsch. I decided on buying a pair of Technics SB-6000A's since I couldn't afford the Klipsch Cornwall's or LaScala's at the time, to go with a Technics SA-5770 receiver and a Technics SL-1310MKII turntable. I really liked the look of the dark green, military type of look Technics had to offer and the 5770 was a great way to start off while I built my main system. On a meager income of a air Force Airman, it took a little over a year to put the main system together.

After all the dust settled, I not so surprisingly ended up with all Technics:
SL-1310MKII Turntable
SH-905ST Audio Rack
SH-4060 Audio Timer
RS-1700 Open Reel with several accessories
RS-M85 Cassette Deck
ST-9030 Tuner
SH-9010 EQ
SU-9070 Pre-Amp
SH-9020 Meter Unit
SE-9060 Amp
SB-E100 Loudspeakers. I sold the SB-6000's to a friend finance an upgrade to these.

I never lost my lust for Klipsch and bought a pair of Klipschorns, a pair of La Scala's, a pair of Cornwalls and a pair of KG-2's over the years. I later traded the Klipschorns for another pair of LaScala's plus cash. After all these years, I finally did an A/B comparison between the La Scala's and the SB-E100's, out of neccessity, earlier this year. I could not get the La Scala's to perform in our home theater as they had in our family room. I brought the SB-E100's in just to see how they would do in the same setting and was AMAZED that they blew away the La Scala's with realistic tight bass and simply wonderful highs. I have always been a fan of Technics components but, when it came to speakers, Klipsch is where my heart was. That is, until I made a side by side comparison. I'm about to sell one pair of the La Scala's and the Cornwalls. The Technics 6060's will replace the La Scala's and the 5000's will replace the Cornwalls. This isn't because these particular speakers will outperform the Klipsch but because I now have too many speakers. The Technics will peform nicely and the Klipsch will bring considerably more money while I thin the herd. The Techncis hater can have the Klipsch, and they'll never know what they're missing. That is better for me since it will keep prices down on Technics. It would be sad if I was a seller but I'm a buyer when it comes to Technics, the haters can have the other brands.

What say you?

Zeke
12-20-2010, 05:15 PM
...On AK and elsewhere (although AK is king) Technics seems to have fallen victim to this phenomenon...

What say you?

I just finished reading this whole damned thread.

My only concern is the initial erroneous statement, from a guy pimping Technics (no issue) nearly three years ago before disappearing sometime back, who -- then -- uses a Pioneer logo for his icon. :scratch2:

But, hey, "I'm grumpy these days."

Nat
12-20-2010, 08:44 PM
If I understand you correctly, your point is that there isn't any notable Technics bashing, and that the OP was bloviating. If that's it in a nutshell, I agree wholeheartedly. Certainly there is plenty of Bose bashing, and BPC bashing and all sorts of sharing of negative opinions. But the OP seemed to think that the lack of a lot of traffic about Technics was the result of some conspiracy, rather than the lack of a dedicated coterie of enthusiasts. Well the thread clearly has created that coterie, but I wish the thread name would be put to rest -- it makes everyone sound like a whiny victim. Which is an odd situation for fans of a company that makes the dominant turntable in the entire world...

Zeke
12-21-2010, 08:31 AM
If I understand you correctly, your point is that there isn't any notable Technics bashing, and that the OP was bloviating.

Concise... :smoke:

iceman79
12-21-2010, 08:48 AM
The SL-1200MkII, safe to say the most successful TT ever made? (Love mine)

Had a pair of SE-9060 amps and used them as mono blocks. Beautifully made inside and out less the speaker terminals. Had the matching tuner as well.... kinda wish I had the tuner but I prefer the sound my Onkyo over the Tech amps.

Anubis
12-21-2010, 12:38 PM
I don't know how much Technics bashing goes on here, but at one point or another every brand ends up getting bashed by someone.
As with every brand there are great models and bad ones. You also have to account for personal preferences. What music to one person's ears is ear grating noise to another's.
I think Technics made a couple of fabulous receivers back in the day. (Today's Technics isn't so hot with the exception of a few professional DJ TTs or what have you, That said though a lot of brands have lost their consistency over the years in the name of quick profit which is a shame).
Technics also made a "Dragon Killer" tape deck. (Refering to the Nakamichi Dragon. Again though that in no way means the Nak Dragon is garbage, quite the opposite).
I can't quote model numbers due to memory issues, but I've seen a couple of vintage Technics units I would not mind owning at all. Same with many other brands.

MacPhantom
12-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Technics also made a "Dragon Killer" tape deck.
Nope, they even made TWO!

RS-M95:
http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/432868/technics-rs-m95_8960.jpg

RS-9900:
http://www.audioinnovationen.de/assets/images/Technics-RS9900-Side-25cm.jpg
:ntwrthy:

Anubis
12-21-2010, 02:56 PM
Nope, they even made TWO!

RS-M95:


RS-9900:
:ntwrthy:

Well there ya go. I wouldn't mind if either an RS-M95 or an actual Naka Dragon found it's way to my digs indeed! :)

MacPhantom
12-21-2010, 03:03 PM
Well there ya go. I wouldn't mind if either an RS-M95 or an actual Naka Dragon found it's way to my digs indeed! :)
Technically, they're competitive (the Dragon might be a bit better). I'm really Technics-biased though, and I would definitely prefer the M95 just because of the looks – the Dragon is in my opinion one of the ugliest devices ever made.

rfjphoto
02-14-2012, 03:27 AM
I just picked up a Technics SA 3036 at Goodwill tonight. I really like the color at night of the red, yellow, blue, and green. Everything works and it sounds nice for a midfi system. 47 WPC Got it for $29.00 This is my first post to this forum. I goggled the model in the store and found this page which helped me decide to but it. I like it way more then I thought I would, especially the color at night. It is my bedroom receiver. I thought it might look 80's cheesy but it looks fun! I think I am going to start looking for early 80's stuff as a lot of the 70's stuff is getting snatched up, no doubt partly due to this excellent forum! Thanks for being here, you have helped me make a few decisions through the past few weeks.

Bob J.

dragonhead00
02-14-2012, 05:12 AM
I never noticed any anti-Technics sentiment here since finding AK. I definitely don't share the feeling, either way. I love my two cassette decks and the speakers are decent.

zebra03
02-14-2012, 08:58 AM
I have and still enjoy all my Technics CD players and Turntables . I find that the CD players are by far the most Human friendly units around .

Eagle1
02-18-2012, 04:41 PM
Technically, they're competitive (the Dragon might be a bit better). I'm really Technics-biased though, and I would definitely prefer the M95 just because of the looks – the Dragon is in my opinion one of the ugliest devices ever made.Nice pun! :banana:

Hooby
02-23-2012, 08:39 PM
I've just recently gotten into audio gear and from talking to my dad he said he had an old Technics receiver underneath the steps in a storage closet that quit working on him about 15-20 years ago. I dug it up and found it to be an SA-600 in great cosmetic shape. Had a buddy of mine and fellow "AK"er look at it and was able to bring it back to life again. It sounds amazing to me! Very musical, detailed, and also very powerful. Used to have stacked Sansui speakers running which was very loud and concert feeling. Recently bought some Polk Monitor 7's which sound amazing powered by the 600. I'm a Technics believer!!

zuzuman
03-12-2012, 11:28 AM
My first receiver was an SA-500, which I purchased new in 1979. It served me well for almost 20 years, and I regretted selling it almost as soon as it left my living room.

Just picked up an SA-410 for $20 at a thrift store, along with a JVC CD changer for $10. I cannot believe how good this combo sounds through my EPI 100V speakers. Reminds me of the first time I heard a CD played in an audio shop in the lower east side of NYC in 1984!

Permanent Waves
03-12-2012, 12:32 PM
My sister's husband rescued his dad's old SA-400 about 5 years back and I got a chance to listen to it and was modestly impressed. Good sounding little unit, kind of reminded me of a cross between a Yamaha and Pioneer sound. If I was still into vintage gear I would be interested in Technics for sure.

Edit: Forgot, one of the first cd players I saw in the early 90's was my friend's Technics carousel cdp which had a clear top like a record player you'd lift to put the cds in. I don't know the model, but it was one of the first carousel cdp's I ever saw and a big deal back then. He had some early 90's Technics "bpc" receiver to go with it, powering baby Advents. Nice early 90's high school system overall.

1TUFSS
03-17-2012, 01:56 AM
I've never really noticed any Technics stigma - definitely none on here, and the only example I've seen or heard of is those in the belt-drive crowd who see the SL-1200 as the Antichrist.

RS Steve
03-17-2012, 08:07 AM
I picked a SL-1100A out of the neighbors curb side trash, all it is missing is three of its leveling feet. It works great and is very well built so I will make it a keeper. I own a SA-500 and SA-600 in my collection, nice receivers and have good looks.

zebra03
03-17-2012, 08:31 AM
I just picked up a Technics SA 3036 at Goodwill tonight. I really like the color at night of the red, yellow, blue, and green. Everything works and it sounds nice for a midfi system. 47 WPC Got it for $29.00 This is my first post to this forum. I goggled the model in the store and found this page which helped me decide to but it. I like it way more then I thought I would, especially the color at night. It is my bedroom receiver. I thought it might look 80's cheesy but it looks fun! I think I am going to start looking for early 80's stuff as a lot of the 70's stuff is getting snatched up, no doubt partly due to this excellent forum! Thanks for being here, you have helped me make a few decisions through the past few weeks.

Bob J.

:worthless

Kneedeepinit
03-21-2012, 11:10 PM
I just scored my first technics piece. 7 minutes after it was produced, I saw an online ad for a vintage stereo so I called the guy up. $20 for a technics receiver and Pioneer speakers. I was at his house in an hour with the cash.

He said the stereo was no good, all scratchy when you adjust volume or any of the knobs but it was a throw in. The speakers were decent looking. I get home and hook it up. Holy crap, does it ever sound bad. I try the speakers with another amp and realize they are the issue. Off to Goodwill with them.

I hooked up a set of DBX Soundfield speakers and the SA 404 receiver doesn't sound that bad. A little heavy on the bass but certainly listenable. Today, I decided to hook up a pair of Energy ESM3 bookshelf speakers thinking the small woofer would be a good match. They were made for each other. It is the best those speakers have ever sounded.

A can of Deoxit and compressed air later, I have a great system in my bedroom. No more scrathy noise, everything is smooth and clean.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/kneedeepinit/1954%20viking%20stereo/IMG_9453.jpg

ryuuoh
03-21-2012, 11:32 PM
Quite a looker, there~

ryuuoh
03-21-2012, 11:40 PM
I believe the Technics bashing was from the early days of AK, talking about the more Panasonic-ish offerings (paste board backs and bottom panels). The Technics series I'm a big fan of is the dark brown Pro series, of which the SU-8080 is a member.
Here's mine, before and after.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6660807653_c21d780f2a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6660813099_8fbccc4c4d_b.jpg

jammasterj13
03-22-2012, 06:34 AM
I've been using this nifty bit of kit in my bedroom system quite recently.

Shiny disco lights! Yes sireeee.:banana:

Ruxman
03-22-2012, 10:43 AM
FYI Technics is no more, no turntables, nothing. It's gone forever.

ev13wt
03-22-2012, 02:13 PM
FYI Technics is no more, no turntables, nothing. It's gone forever.

Not true, old rumor.

They will keep producing the mk5 version of the 1210 turntable. The mk2, the beloved dj table, is not being produced anymore.

They haven't been making any stereo stuff for years now, at least 10 I think.

1TUFSS
03-22-2012, 09:03 PM
Hard enough finding a good 70s-era Technics TT as it is... :(

grundigger
10-30-2012, 11:34 AM
. . . is a Technics SU-8600 integrated powering a pair of Original Large Advents.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8138642597_a95793d200_z.jpg

sony6060
10-30-2012, 12:46 PM
The Technics are best dest deal anywhere and highly reliable too. Thank goodness for such high production vintage gear that keeps prices low for those coming into the hobby. Such a good entry table and not lower grade entry quality either.

cnh2
10-30-2012, 03:10 PM
Like some here I prefer the earlier series SA receivers to the later ones.

My Technics SA 5570 is a very nice piece with a rock steady FM tuner in it.

cnh2

ryuuoh
10-30-2012, 11:44 PM
. . . is a Technics SU-8600 integrated powering a pair of Original Large Advents.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8138642597_a95793d200_z.jpg

Good looking amp.

ryuuoh
10-30-2012, 11:47 PM
Like some here I prefer the earlier series SA receivers to the later ones.

My Technics SA 5570 is a very nice piece with a rock steady FM tuner in it.

cnh2

I too like that dial color. When they first came out, that color was quite different from the other manufacturer's offerings.

MacPhantom
10-31-2012, 04:47 AM
There exist some Receivers sans woodcase with a wrapped-around border which have a black dial scale rather than a blueish one. These were mainly sold outside the U.S.

The Fez
10-31-2012, 05:19 AM
My first entry into vintage was with Technics. It was an SU-Z2 integrated. I've got a soft spot for them....And I'd give my !@#$%^ right now for an SA-1000!

fnstoked
11-07-2012, 09:30 PM
Since I've posted the initial note I've kept the SA800 at 3 1/2 on volume (about all I can take) and I glanced back to see a ceiling lamp slowly turning.

Walk over and holy cats, the heat is BOILING out of the top. Pop the top quickly - whew, all is OK - just the output transistor radiators doing the job. Can't touch 'em - I forgot how hot these power sections get when you take 'em out for some exercise. It would be neat to see the home power meter spin with an SA1000 shaking the walls!

Guys, let's remember to keep these beasts well ventilated!!

Volume at 3 1/2 sound like 1/3 rated power real torture on an amp section, if you play at 1/3 power for more than an hour it's doing what it can to dissapate all that heat, it'll run cooler cranked up.
peace,Craig


This is very old, but can someone elaborate on this? So basically technics run wayy too hot compared to other brands?

what's the thing about 1/3 power rating. how much should you play it at to keep it relatively cool then?

alan_g
11-08-2012, 08:47 AM
well i happen to love my su10 -ma and have not heard anything better than it(yet)

Nuvintage
11-08-2012, 08:54 AM
True story: my 1st CDP was an Akai. It caused horrible interference with radio and TV. It skipped if you sneezed in the room. The technics CDP OTOH could be turned sideways and still play. No interference, and much more solidly built. Technics cassette decks could be quite nice and the Sl1200 was a bargain tank that would sound very nice for little cash.

Jpowell1
11-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Just bought a Technics sa 5170 receiver for $5 because the seller said it didnt power up
Bulbs were just blown Powered up fine
A few shots of deox later and it sounds like a champ
I really like how easy it is to get to their pots for cleaning
3 bulbs from dave and some wood glue on the cabinet and it will shine again

cortico
11-20-2013, 03:06 PM
Hi all,

I can't understand why Technics receivers do not gather so much interest like other brands do. I got one SA300 a while back for $60, one channel was dead and it had some scratchy pots. Not surprising in a unit storaged for 20 yeas or so under unknown condition, right?

Got the receiver professionally serviced. The unit was completly cleaned, tuner aligned, all joints and wiring inspected and got the controls deoxidized and lubricated. All the other components were running as per manufacturer specs. No need for recaps or anything. Ended up paying $150 but the receiver was back to its glory running for a year now without issues.

I honestly think that the design of these Tecnichs is very elegant with the cleanest look of the "era". The phono stage is pretty decent, running a Pioneer Pl-530 and driving a modest Polk Audio speakers pair very efficiently. Some components could be better, but there is always a compremise, for the price range it is very decent.

Recently I purchased a Pioneer SX 780, all reviews and opinions claim it as a better and it certainly looks very cool with the VU meters swinging around. But I tend to gravitate around the technics, I prefer the sound, knobs feel smother and it even looks better.

Long story short, i have been playing guitar for quite few years now. also, built tube amp, effects, cables along with other basic gadgets. Anyway, I cant find a reason to complain about my fairly modest stereo system and Guitar guys can be very nutty in regard to tone and general sound and I can listen old Stones vinyls for hours.

Cant figure why there is so much bashing around Technics...

69sixpackbee
11-20-2013, 04:11 PM
I have the smaller brother, SA-400, and I love it! I take it out and exercise it from time to time. It will definitely work those HPM-100's!

The Fez
11-26-2013, 05:52 PM
SA 1000 most powerful receiver ever made I think at 330w...The later 80's power amps the SE-A100 the SE-A5000 are amongst the very best yes VERY BEST power amps to have come out of Japan. Vfets included.

I'd love to have one. They are rare and still command big bucks...

Sent from my XT925

bluesky
11-26-2013, 06:19 PM
Nothing wrong with Technics.

If it sounds good...it is good!

It's that simple.

I've got a mid-80s Techinics EQ that even went through a volcano and it functions just fine. It's bullet proof.

I've also got an old mid 80's Hitachi mini-component 15W amp in my closet that I just don't have the heart to get rid of. It sounds... Outrageous!! It really does. So do the speakers to the system! It's kind of a jaw dropping sound really. Just plug in a cheapo $15 portable Chinese CD player from 'Big Lots' and it sounds simply wonderful.

I should set-it-up! If fact, I think I will in the guest bedroom. :)

I've got a 1989 mid line Sony amp I bought new, nothing special, but it sure 'IS special'...sounds fantastic. It's a keeper!!!

I used to have a full Technics stereo. The system sounded fine except for the technics box speakers. They just kept breaking down. I changed out the individual speakers so many times but it just would never sound right. Bad speakers. But get some ARs, or KLHs and it would of sounded really nice.


If it sounds really good ... it ' IS ' really good! It's that simple. It's all in the sound, the feeling, and the good vibrations coming out of the speakers. That's it.

KentTeffeteller
11-26-2013, 06:42 PM
Technics receivers with one or two model exceptions tended to be either STK loaded or had issues with selector switches and pots. The 1973-1976 era tended to be the best for them. The separates in the R&B Series were their best components ever.

sheltie dave
11-26-2013, 06:52 PM
Oh wah...

Nat
11-26-2013, 07:02 PM
I asked this early in the life of this thread, and still haven't really gotten an answer, so I'll ask it again: who (or where) are these Technics bashers?
I think that it's reasonable to specify that comments disagreeing with the claim that the Technics SL 1200 is the greatest table ever are not bashing -- not genuflecting isn't equivalent to trashing.
Otherwise I don't see much criticism of Technics -- certainly some people don't care for the receivers that had ICs for the amp section, but those people don't like other manufacturers' similar recievers.
I kind of suspect that what is being complained about is the lack of collector cachet attached to Technics stuff. In which case, join the club -- how do you think Nikko, Rotel, or other lesser known makers' fans feel?
There is no explaining why some things are more valued than others -- certainly there are utterly mundane Marantz components, and out standing Nikko components, but that won't make anyone pay Marantz prices for a Nikko.

markdi
11-26-2013, 07:28 PM
I have a near mint technics sa 550

I paid $ 12.50 for it 5 years ago.

Works like new - no stk

70 wpc

Powers a pair of speakerlab das 7 speakers.

Deep bass

Works and sounds great

btlefn1
11-26-2013, 07:29 PM
I kind of suspect that what is being complained about is the lack of collector cachet attached to Technics stuff.

I think you are correct. There are some very dedicated Technics fans, but there are other brands that seem to be desired by more people. Not sure why that is, but it doesn't matter to me. When I purchased my Technics system in 1977, I chose it over other makes and models because I liked the sound, the looks, and the price. I didn't worry about how popular it might or might not be 35-40 years later. :)
I will say that I get the impression there are more Technics fans in Europe than in the U.S. I don't know if that's true, or why it would be, but that's my impression.

Nat
11-26-2013, 08:55 PM
Of course it's worth pointing out that for Technics fans, lack of collector interest and whatever bashing there might actually be keeps prices low and makes it possible to amass a fine collection.

bowtie427ss
11-26-2013, 09:36 PM
Of course it's worth pointing out that for Technics fans, lack of collector interest and whatever bashing there might actually be keeps prices low and makes it possible to amass a fine collection.You don't say. :D

Simply because i like them, i have the series including SA-101, 202, 303, 404, 505, 616, and 818, actually have pairs of most of them. I rotate one into the workshop system every now and then. The 101 thru 505 use STK's, the 616 and 818 are discrete. I am often impressed how good the 404 and 505 sound, they are far from poor implementations of the STK modules.

CT-Boy
11-26-2013, 10:08 PM
I know and love Technics the same time I know what 'HiFi' means..
I live close to a Technics Showroom, and spent most of my free times there.. normally whole day saturdays listening to every single unit of their setups..One of the reasons why I fall in love with Technics products.
Now that I can afford it, I have a few collections.
First Technics I bought was the SL-D2 on a very limited student budget way back in 1981.. then came the SU-V4K, then SU-V7K. RS-M14 was my first tape deck.
Final amplifier bought was SU-900MK2.
Another two tables were bought, the SL-5 and SL-2000.
Honestly I am still looking for more but kinda difficult to get from where I am, Malaysia. I guess not many owners wanna sell them and if they do (local forum/trade) all were snapped up in no time!
Still longing to own Technics RTR, the RS-1500... Next to impossible to get it locally here.. buying elsewhere(ebay), the shipping will cost a bomb!
Why I like/love Technics?
They look great(styling) and sound great too! ;)

Daunia 70
11-26-2013, 10:43 PM
In my opinion,Technics were right up there with the very best of 'em (perhaps even top 3),sure in the 80's and especially 90's they produced a lot of BPC,but no more so than other top Japanese companies.Even at these not so good economic times they were still producing real hi-end gear,which was much more difficult to find,some was even built to order.

Not forgetting too,that a lot of their lower-end gear in the 80's and 90's was still superbly built/reliable,and most of it was still been made in Japan,which is more than can be said for a lot of others.Their Japanese made TOTL mini systems throughout the 90's were superb sounding,and their build quality was awesome.As for collectability,all Technics gear seems to be sought after over here,thus fetches good money.

The 70's pro series Technics SE-9600/SU-9600/ST-9600 power-amp/pre-amp/tuner are scheduled to arrive later today (fingers crossed),can't wait to compare it to the Pioneer Spec 1/Spec 4 :music:

KentTeffeteller
11-26-2013, 11:13 PM
The open reel RS 1500 and RS 1800 and the best of the DD turntables and the SE 9600/SU 9600/ST 9600 are Technics claim to US fame. The company is best known for turntables and tape machines to a lesser extent. The receivers and integrateds were at their best excellent, but many also which lived shorter lives due to being more far out in their designs with proprietary parts. Switch gear was a common issue on Technics receivers in the SA series, even the SA 800 and SA 1000 (both the most desirable of the receivers). Tuner sections in this era were outstanding and their sonics were. Saw lots of these with bad tape monitor/high/low filter switches as early as 2 years old or less. I love them when working well and switches good.

jdwk
11-26-2013, 11:17 PM
so many have never heard a Technics sp 15 turntable with an EPA 250 arm and an audio technica AT150MLX.......this WILL give most other tables a run for their money....trust me I know....now If I can only get back the STANTON 981LZS i once had....

Daunia 70
11-28-2013, 03:41 AM
I've been comparing the Technics SE-9600/SU-9600 pre-amp/power-amp combo to the Pioneer Spec 1 pre-amp/Spec 4 power-amp combo.
The Technics pairing wins hands down for sound quality according to my ears,more depth,better/clearer resolution.


As for build quality,the Pioneer Spec gear doesn't come close! All metal knobs with grub screws on the Technics pre-amp (and there are loads of 'em).
The Technics power-amp is slightly smaller in size to the Pioneer Spec 4 power-amp,but still seems heavier.Again it's certainly better built with all metal knobs/grub screws.
Overall,I'd say that these Technics pro components must rate as the best built gear I've ever owned.The sheer weight of the Technics power-amp alone is very surprising,especially considering it's more compact/smaller than the Pioneer Spec 4 power-amp.

markshan
11-28-2013, 11:54 PM
The open reel RS 1500 and RS 1800 and the best of the DD turntables and the SE 9600/SU 9600/ST 9600 are Technics claim to US fame. The company is best known for turntables and tape machines to a lesser extent. The receivers and integrateds were at their best excellent, but many also which lived shorter lives due to being more far out in their designs with proprietary parts. Switch gear was a common issue on Technics receivers in the SA series, even the SA 800 and SA 1000 (both the most desirable of the receivers). Tuner sections in this era were outstanding and their sonics were. Saw lots of these with bad tape monitor/high/low filter switches as early as 2 years old or less. I love them when working well and switches good.

Don't forget some of the "Phase Linear" speakers. I love my SB-L200's, and they weren't even close to the top of that line.

specialone53
11-29-2013, 04:08 AM
so many have never heard a Technics sp 15 turntable with an EPA 250 arm and an audio technica AT150MLX.......this WILL give most other tables a run for their money....trust me I know....now If I can only get back the STANTON 981LZS i once had....

I'm sure you mean listening to something played on the turntable.
Because if you can "hear" a turntable, something's wrong with it.

rnorton
11-29-2013, 04:33 PM
I've never understood the lack of love on these boards for Technics. I remember good stuff, and they were some of the best looking too.

My personal lack of love comes from remembering how excruciating it was dealing with Matsushita when I used to do warranty repairs for them. Masters of passive-aggressive relations with repair people. Worse than doing Sony warranties, if that's possible.

luddite
11-29-2013, 09:53 PM
I've got two Technics turntables that have given me solid service and I think they're both great.
The worst speakers I ever heard were a pair of Technics 3-ways.
So, they earned respect and contempt for different reasons for different products, and I don't know why they made those speakers, but they never should have.

specialone53
11-30-2013, 02:08 AM
I'll agree, Technics speakers arn't nice to my ears.
I'll stick to my Advents.

But their amp technology, particularly their "SVI" amps is simply sweet.
The SVI amps in my opinion, sound like tube amps, and their reliability over the decades is proof of their good design.

MacPhantom
11-30-2013, 02:37 AM
The United States had the bad fate of getting a lot of really, really cheap speakers branded under the label "Technics". Most of them weren't even original Technics productions, but special versions exclusively designed for the USA, Canada and Russia.
Here's one such example:
http://www.kohutphotos.com/technics/speak_2.jpg

These are Technics SB-A52. Extremely cheap and poorly made things. You would never find them in Europe or Japan because they were not made for these markets.


Real Technics speakers (that do sound good!) look like this:
http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad210/Roadrunner990/1-3.jpg
(SB-10)

Or like this:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NVQujPOPx2c/TTmfmSWDpyI/AAAAAAAATwo/jzSxo77K6B4/s400/sb-e500.JPG
(SB-E500)

Or maybe like this:
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/afp1000-thater.jpg
(SB-AFP1000)

Believe me, there are hundreds of other examples for good speakers by this brand that sound good.

Sidman
12-15-2013, 08:10 AM
I have an SU-8600 with the fisher100s speakers and I can not say enough good things about it. I picked it up in a trade and had it restored to original specs. To get that kind of quality today would cost thousands

tommy6206
12-15-2013, 05:55 PM
This is some of mine.Not the best photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/tommy6206/Temp/DSCF0008_zps49b96412.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/tommy6206/media/Temp/DSCF0008_zps49b96412.jpg.html)

Daunia 70
12-16-2013, 03:25 AM
This is some of mine.Not the best photo

WOW! Supa awesome Technics pro-stack and no mistake!!! Now I really wanna get those cassette decks and graphic eq.

mdross1
12-16-2013, 06:58 AM
This lack of love for certain items is with everything in life. One of those things so hard to stomach at times but we all have to live with. Most people just go with the flow and love what they love, others feel the need to bash things they do not know or understand who knows why. Go to any forum they are lurking everywhere.

SVI2004A
12-16-2013, 07:15 AM
I'll agree, Technics speakers arn't nice to my ears.
I'll stick to my Advents.

But their amp technology, particularly their "SVI" amps is simply sweet.
The SVI amps in my opinion, sound like tube amps, and their reliability over the decades is proof of their good design.

Amen :thmbsp:

Vaughn
12-16-2013, 07:45 PM
I've got a pair of Technics SB-10 speakers that are excellent. Granted, they are not your typical Technics speaker:no:

I've also got an SU-V8 that I quite like but it does need a little work.

Bourbon
12-16-2013, 11:53 PM
I haven't been on the forum long, so I haven't really noticed the Technics bashing. I realize that most people are inclined toward certain brands and that they tend to search for fault in others. If you really want to see brand hostility, just join a photography forum.

As for me, I've got a Technics SA-600 and SL-1300 that I'm very happy with. However, I just bought a Marantz 6300 and will probably buy a Marantz receiver to accompany it. Regardless, I'm still going to keep the Technics system for my bedroom listening. It sounds wonderful and works every time I turn it on.

Binkman
12-17-2013, 12:04 AM
Okay.. update// this thread started in 2008.. grow up.. and even when it started? It should have been deleted for being stupid. When you have nothing to listen to... a portable transistor radio sounds pretty damned good. In my book anything above that works for me.

SVI2004A
12-17-2013, 01:34 AM
Have some cheese.... It'll go wonderfully well with your whine :D

MacPhantom
12-17-2013, 10:31 AM
I've got a pair of Technics SB-10 speakers that are excellent. Granted, they are not your typical Technics speaker:no:
I absolutely agree, for I have them too. I would never ever give them away—unless I get a pair of SB-1000, SB-E500 or SB-8000 in turn!:yes:

SVI2004A
12-17-2013, 01:16 PM
I absolutely agree, for I have them too. I would never ever give them away—unless I get a pair of SB-1000, SB-E500 or SB-8000 in turn!:yes:

I have the SB 6

Phenomenal performer.... Those SB 10 speakers must be unreal... Nodal drive with a coil diameter seldom known in anything

Lost count of the times in perth those resulted in police attendance..

For speakers, they weren't nervous at all and delivered crystal clarity at concert levels... 2 pairs on the A3MK2 was stellar

specialone53
12-17-2013, 07:50 PM
I have the SB 6

Phenomenal performer.... Those SB 10 speakers must be unreal... Nodal drive with a coil diameter seldom known in anything

Lost count of the times in perth those resulted in police attendance..

For speakers, they weren't nervous at all and delivered crystal clarity at concert levels... 2 pairs on the A3MK2 was stellar

As for the SVI - based amps, I really think Technics had, and still has, a best kept secret to that design.
It's never been copied, and though pricey to replace when one goes bad, I've never heard a bad performing SVI amp.

My Technics SA-R277 receiver with the SVI3204 amp chip puts out a solid 60W per channel, and never seems to labor.

Of course, a little tweaking helps - cooling fan modifications, bigger filter caps in the power supply.

Brett a
12-17-2013, 09:22 PM
I haven't been on the forum long, so I haven't really noticed the Technics bashing. I realize that most people are inclined t That's becasue there are none to notice.

Its kinda cute; a thread addressed to "Technics Bashers" is populated entirely by appreciators. There doesn't seem to be any bashers around.

Masterdraco
12-17-2013, 09:36 PM
I'll bash a little the chips are a pita to desolder and replace the traces are so thin you always tear atleast one. discrete transistor designs sound better to me. finding a replacement amplifier chip that isn't a counterfeit is a real treat. but all jokes aside technics turntables are frigging awesome i have several. oh yeah most technics speakers are cheaply made crap not all though. I love the honeycomb designs. I would love an sa-1000 330wpc@8ohms 0.03%total harmonic distortion all discrete design woot.

SVI2004A
12-17-2013, 09:47 PM
As for the SVI - based amps, I really think Technics had, and still has, a best kept secret to that design.
It's never been copied, and though pricey to replace when one goes bad, I've never heard a bad performing SVI amp.

My Technics SA-R277 receiver with the SVI3204 amp chip puts out a solid 60W per channel, and never seems to labor.

Of course, a little tweaking helps - cooling fan modifications, bigger filter caps in the power supply.

I highly recommend a V4X amp... It somehow flew under the radar. They're somewhat rare in USA... You'll know what I'm saying if ever you get one.

Masterdraco... A lot of the earlier SVI efforts had a lot more aplomb than any discrete amps in the same brackets. I personally have seen a lot of discretes sound like ass on difficult to drive speakers, whereas the SVI had no problems.

Masterdraco
12-17-2013, 09:53 PM
this is true a long time ago i had a technics sa numbers i can't remember now it was class AA it was 150wpc it was truly awesome led volume meters with a incandescent back light for all the controls.

Masterdraco
12-17-2013, 09:54 PM
Anyway svi i am a tube guy now but i will never get rid of my technics tables no way.

MacPhantom
12-18-2013, 06:28 AM
Woofer installed in the SB-10 (just removed it out of curiosity). No comment…:D
http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/medium/613515/technics-sb-10_381342.jpg (http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/613515/technics-sb-10_381342.jpg)

Yeah, "everything Technics did, Pioneer did better". Who said that bullshit again?

SVI2004A
12-18-2013, 06:54 AM
Woofer installed in the SB-10 (just removed it out of curiosity). No comment…:D
http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/medium/613515/technics-sb-10_381342.jpg (http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/613515/technics-sb-10_381342.jpg)

Yeah, "everything Technics did, Pioneer did better". Who said that bullshit again?

That in the centre is the centre spider... The coil width you'd see from the side...

:D can't remember who spoke that yak manure..... Was not worth remembering..

What will amuse me is the count of Matsushita components youll see in their equipment

krowmagnum
12-18-2013, 07:03 AM
Yeah, "everything Technics did, Pioneer did better". Who said that bullshit again?

I said that "bullshit"...

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=476878&stc=1&d=1387368098

SVI2004A
12-18-2013, 07:05 AM
Anyway svi i am a tube guy now but i will never get rid of my technics tables no way.

They made a whole variety of tables... Which ones you have?

MacPhantom
12-18-2013, 07:34 AM
I knew you would come, krowmagnum! :D

Those Exclusive 2401 are pretty darn awesome, yes! Competitors: SB-10000, SB-M1, SB-E500. Greetings from the so-called asshole! ;)


@SVI2004A: the coil in the SB-10's woofer measures 160mm in diameter. No joke.

bd1886
12-18-2013, 01:03 PM
All I can say is all you have to do is pay attention to the people who have worked on and earned their stripes listening to a lot of equipment. (Not one of these people discredit a whole brand name unless it's "bottom feeder" built cheap.)
I have to admit that the "Panasonic" name associated alongside the "Technics" labeling didn't do much to build confidence for me back in the day due to marketing perceptions.....that cautious ignorance exists today and is a testament to how initial marketing success/failings are still pervasive.
You realize so many of our perceptions are a bunch of crap when you have a good pairing and listen blind. Top Technics has it's strengths and can be easily appreciated or preferred once you start swapping around and can crush models you mostly only hear positives on.......fact.