View Full Version : SX-1010 Bias and Offset Pots floating


JJJB
03-25-2008, 08:49 AM
What could be the cause of he 2 pots not to adjust to the 0 V on the one, and 50MV on the other? Is there a wait time after the unit is turned on before these adjustments should be made?

jgmacv
03-25-2008, 01:07 PM
From what I've read in different threads, you should wait about 10 minutes after powering up, to get accurate dc offset readings. I also understand that the readings will fluctuate some based on the heat generated by the unit.

markthefixer
03-25-2008, 03:40 PM
As the transistors warm up, they shift in characteristics. We usually give it a little while to stabilize after turnon before making adjustments ( we watch it to see when it settles) an dthen set them, but that's just the setting at THAT temperature, and it will change, which we watch, and wait ( up to 1/2 hour) and then try to adjust closer as needed.

There will be a point where the change in the setting is small enough that there will be minimal differences to settle out.

Sometimes as I watch it, I see it climbing towards an overshoot and back it down. Takes both patience and experience....

Patience will GAIN you experience...

JJJB
03-26-2008, 06:38 AM
Is there a better procedure, other than the one in the service manual, that gives more info?

ccheath
03-26-2008, 09:31 AM
I think markthefixer pretty much explain that. I also think the service manual is pretty self explanatory(at least it works for me for I have SX-1010 too). If you can get the dc offset close to 0mv and bias as close to 50mv with a fluctuation of a few millivolts then you should be fine. The fluctuation by a few millivolts is normal.

JJJB
03-26-2008, 09:42 AM
There must be different service manuals, as the one I have just gives a short explanation of the Bias and Offset.

markthefixer
03-26-2008, 05:02 PM
There must be different service manuals, as the one I have just gives a short explanation of the Bias and Offset.

You are right, the earlier Pioneer manuals were a bit terse. There have been many manuals written since then and Pioneer got better at writing them.

The sx-1050 would be the next model series up several years later, then the 1080 etc...

they were: x2x , 424, 525, 626, 727, 828
x3x: 434, 535, 636, 737, 838, 939, 1010
x50: 450, 550, 650, 750, 850, 950, 1050, 1250
x80: 480, 580, 680, 780, 880, 980, 1080, 1280, 1980
??: 3400, 3500, 3600, 3700, 3800, 3900
sx-d5000, sx-d7000

Some of them SLIGHTLY better explain the heat drift rechecking / resetting.

Fred Longworth
03-26-2008, 05:22 PM
The regulated power supply board must be restored before you can set a completely reliable setting, especially for offset.

The adjustment trimpots do go bad. Piher (avail. through Mouser) makes excellent replacements.

Finally, the differential amplifier transistors must be matched to within 5%.

Fred