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jimdgoulding
03-26-2008, 12:38 AM
Not a very popular forum. Maybe a rant could be tolerated here. Charles Lloyd. I personally want to slap this sucker upside his head! I ventured some hard earned money to buy his latest CD. I know this cat from back in the day when he was music director and front man for the Chico Hamilton Quintet with Gabor Szabo in the early 60's. Saw em twice at the Jazz Workshop in SF. Own a couple of their records. He never reached what I thought was is potential then and, regrettably, now. But this is a live recording and I had high hopes.

First, let me say that ECM is also a disappointment to me. This doesn't sound like a live recording at all except for audience applause. Everything is close miked just like in their studio. Limited depth of field. No stage. And Lloyd is still full of himself. He's as dexterious a player as anyone but all he can do is lines. He never connects them into a whole. Consequently, to me, his solos never take me anyplace. I say full of himself caused he dressed like a ladies man back then. He preened on stage. Then he met up with Mike Love and started doing transcendental meditation. I expect that his fans think his playing is all introspective now. To these seasoned ears, he's still jerkin the ladies off. Having said that, I must admit, I like his flute playing on this. It's simply has more feeling to me. I'm about that.

I've played this CD two times. Make me an offer in a PM if you might care to, please. I probably won't listen to this again.

Lastly, this has glowing reviews on Amazon. For somebody, maybe.

reggaenaut
04-21-2008, 01:29 PM
Some rant! I always play his "Forest Flower".

Art K.
05-06-2008, 08:49 PM
I saw Charles Lloyd last year and he was excellent. I'm not sure what ears you were listening to his latest with but they must have problems hearing because his last 2 outings have been fabulous. Jumping the Creek and Rabo de Nube are all out jams and not introspective...would you prefer a more funky/soul/avant kinda Charles Lloyd....not sure what the fuss here is about...

BTW I listened to an interview he did on KMHD here in Portland before the show and he is about as humble a man as I've heard in jazz...to each his own I suppose.