View Full Version : Help needed from record collector, found something strange in an album...


birddog
05-02-2008, 01:20 PM
I did a Google on this album I bought today, to see if I could find out about the vinyl insert that was inside, and no luck.

Here is what I know: Leon Russell, Self Titled, Shelter Records 8901, distributed by Capitol records. No date anywhere, but my guess is 1971. Has the pre-Marvel Comics lawsuit upside down Superman logo on the egg, which was Shelters logo. Later pressings had a black ink bar stamped over the egg, and the logo was changed entirely in '72.

Inside, was one of those thin plastic "Records" if you will. There is no mention of this anywhere on the jacket or sleeze, and there was no info anywhere online either about it.

It's double sided, has the Shelter "egg" above the spindle hole, again, no dating anywhere on it. Here is what is printed on it, all on side 1:

Side 1

Freddie King SHE 8905
Freddie King SHE 8905
Grease Band She 8904
Don Nix She 8902
*Jim Horn



Side 2
*Alan Gerber
*J.J. Cale
*Jesse Barish, Wolff
and Wings
*Asylum Choir II
* NOT YET RELEASED

Anyone have a clue as to what I might have here? Anyone remember back when if their copy had one of these inside? Last but not least, what the hell am I gonna do with it? I am guessing that these things don't sound all that great?

Aage
05-02-2008, 02:51 PM
They are called "sounds sheets" and there's no reason they shouldn't sound good since they have real grooves and all, but they tend to be hard to stabilize on many players.

It could be that the collector who originally bought the Leon Russell album just used the record jacket to store the shoundsheets in, since they rarely came in any packaging at all. Typically soundsheets were either bound into a magazine, or just inserted loose in the pages in some cases. Is one edge perfed on them...?

birddog
05-02-2008, 04:03 PM
No perforations, although it looks like their might be a staple mark on the lower left corner, but it would be from a smaller staple, not what you would call a standard size desktop staple, or what you would usually find in a magazine binding. Where the holes are located says to me that it was not stapled into a binding, if thats what the holes are, staple holes.

By looking up the Shelter discography, the dates of the releases on the track listing puts this dead on for the time period when the LP was released. The tracks listed as "Not Yet Released" were released around 72/73, if I recall the dates correctly.

There is writing in the dead wax, on both the sound sheet and the lp, would this be a help in any way?

Also, does anyone actually collect these sound sheets? I remember them from back in the day a little bit, or something similar. I do remember that there were cereal boxes and stuff that had cardboard "Records" on them you would cut out, things like that.

Guess I better google sound sheets!

birddog
05-02-2008, 04:10 PM
Keep forgetting to put in pics....

birddog
05-02-2008, 04:28 PM
Found this, a listing for another Leon LP that has this Flexi in it, so it might have come from this album instead.

http://www.musicstack.com/item/2509624/russell,leon/and+the+shelter

d-ray657
05-02-2008, 04:37 PM
Many of the folks listed in the insert spent a lot of time in the Tulsa area, and I wouldn't be surprised if they spent a lot of time in Leon's studio. Maybe he was just making sure that some good people had a chance to be heard.

Regards,

D-Ray

Aage
05-02-2008, 05:26 PM
There is a CD plant in Florida that has always claimed that they invented them. For all I know, that's true. Another thing I recall about them is that they wear out rather quickly, so I wouldn't play them too often.

Why not record it to CD-R when you play it?

http://www.evatone.com/AboutEvatone_History.aspx

electronjohn
05-02-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm betting it's some sort of promo included with Leon's LP to whet the listeners appetite for more of that good Shelter sound. I have couple Grease Band 45s...they gots that tube-type sound for sure.

birddog
05-03-2008, 06:24 AM
Thanks guys! Do people collect these, or did they mostly end up in the trash?

KentTeffeteller
05-03-2008, 09:33 AM
Hi,

With these particular flexis, the album should be worth a premium over the same pressing without one. Not many copies likely still have one.:tresbon:

JDaniel
05-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Leon is playing here in a few weeks. I'd love to go. John Prine's coming here about the same time. So many shows, so little money.

birddog
05-03-2008, 12:10 PM
Hi,

With these particular flexis, the album should be worth a premium over the same pressing without one. Not many copies likely still have one.:tresbon:

I wish I could find out for sure if this is the album that it came with, only reference I can find (See above post) shows a later realease from Leon (And the shleter people) for sale, and it says it has this flexi with it. Both of these realeases were around the same time, so who knows....

Aage
05-03-2008, 04:12 PM
I wish I could find out for sure if this is the album that it came with, only reference I can find (See above post) shows a later realease from Leon (And the shleter people) for sale, and it says it has this flexi with it. Both of these realeases were around the same time, so who knows....

So find out who owns the catalogue now, call them up and talk to the manufacturing guy. If he's been there for a while, he'll know. Have the catalogue numbers handy when you call.

SpeakerLabFan
05-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Very cool find, thanks for the pictures. :thmbsp:

For what it's worth, there's no mention of the flexi in my copy of Goldmine 4th edition. It shows Shelter SW-8901 as a 1970 "early reissue" of SHE-1001 released in 1968.