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Marantz7t15
08-15-2008, 07:05 PM
Always thought SRV sucked, until just a few months ago, a friend was cranking some double trouble at our job site. Somebitch, that guy rocked like a motha! I bought "the sky is crying" and "texas flood. Both fabulous. What album do you recommend I buy next? Think texas flood is my favorite thus far:music:http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/images/smilies/music.gif
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kcollins4
08-15-2008, 07:13 PM
This is a lousy response, because I have zero SRV material. However, IMHO, SRV still rocks!
Marantz7t15
08-15-2008, 07:19 PM
This is a lousy response, because I have zero SRV material. However, IMHO, SRV still rocks!
I'm still completely blown away! 41 years old, and I certainly learned something new- Don't believe everything you think. Play it loud!
elgato8905
08-15-2008, 07:28 PM
Soul to Soul...
Marantz7t15
08-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Soul to Soul...
I'm still smile every time I see that beautiful cabinet you sold me for my 7t! How the heck you doing? Thanks for the SRV info. I am just gonna have to buy em all!
justw
08-15-2008, 07:45 PM
He was a natural.
I have 'em all but the 3 cd Box set has a great mix of studio and live recordings.
avguytx
08-15-2008, 07:58 PM
We're talking about Stevie Ray Vaughan, right?
;)
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble's "Couldn't Stand the Weather". Some major classics....
getright99
08-15-2008, 08:08 PM
srv's live stuff is killer, some of the best guitar you'll ever hear, but i'm biased. 'live at carnegie hall' as well as 'live alive' should get you on the right track. make no mistake, he's one of the greatest of all time.
rsfmotoman
08-15-2008, 08:15 PM
...never too late to get into SRV!
Definitely get -
1. The Sky is Crying - This is a great posthumous release where he does great job with all the songs. I especially like Little Wing and Chitlins Con Carne.
2. In The Beginning - This is a great live release, my favorite. Stevie, IMO, takes a couple songs to get warmed up but lights it up from there on out.I love his version of All Your Love (I Miss Loving).
Enjoy.
Tapehead47
08-15-2008, 08:22 PM
I've been listening to him for over 20 years but one day, not long ago, he bumped up a level. I don't know what happened, but it was about 3 years ago.
The Essential SRV.
Live at the Macambo.
Greatest Hits.
Glad to hear about your conversion.! :rockon:
Rick
addictedtonoise
08-15-2008, 08:29 PM
Ditto Carnegie Hall. Another goodun was srv and albert king, don't remember the title, sorry.
guptonr
08-15-2008, 09:05 PM
I read you already have Texas Flood, but if you have have equipment, get it in SACD. It's tremendous. It's my favorite cd. Tin Pan Alley is stunning on SACD.
lguise
08-15-2008, 09:18 PM
must have ALL srv.
jimdandy
08-15-2008, 10:27 PM
must have ALL srv.
Agreed -- get them all. They'll be other guitar gods, but none quite like him.
As good as he sounded, he was just as much fun to watch. So smooth and connected -- the music just oozed out of him, if that makes sense.
GoMizzou1954
08-16-2008, 05:49 AM
Also check out any of his DVD's. Seeing him play is something else. I'd recommend "Live From Austin Texas" and "Live At Montreaux"
lguise
08-16-2008, 06:10 AM
don't forget Lonnie Mack "Strike Like Lightning". it features SRV on "Oreo Cookie Blues". actually, my favorite SRV tune!
chuckworkb
08-16-2008, 08:18 AM
It is really too bad he passed away so young.
I never get tired of hearing him play.
One of my favorite CD's is, In Session with Albert King and Stevie.
riverrat
08-16-2008, 09:34 AM
No one has mentioned the album In Step. I like that one a lot.
outshined
08-16-2008, 04:59 PM
I have all of SRV's cd's and dvd's, laser disc, too.
His rendition of Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) on Couldn't Stand the Weather is fantastic.
When I first heard Stevie's Pride and Joy for the first time, and not knowing who he was, (early 80's) I thought "this guy is for real"
tensleep
08-16-2008, 06:48 PM
Live Alive - great double live album
MTV also has some Unplugged recordings that are most excellent and quite a departure from Stevie's electric guitar wizardry. He can flat make a dreadnaught sing!
My all time favorite tune of SRV's is Riviera Paradise
grillebilly
08-16-2008, 06:51 PM
SRV was an amazing guitarist, he picked up where Johnny Winter left off. Do a little research on him and you will find an interesting progression from Texas bar bands, to David Bowie guitarist, to his own stuff.
I got to see him when he was playing bars a few times, and he really tore it up. The first time I thought he was going to destroy his guitar- he was beating on it, dropping it, bending the neck against his amp-just crazy Hendrix-like antics. My eyes were tearing because I was afraid to blink and miss something. Next time, same guitar, same crazy stuff. Quite the showman he was.
How could you ever think he sucks?
Anyone who likes him should also check out early Johnny Winter. I am pretty sure they used the same rhythm section. Very similar blues styles, both Texans, and very soulful blues artists.
Tapehead47
08-16-2008, 06:52 PM
No one has mentioned the album In Step. I like that one a lot.
I have that CD, too. Most of my favorite songs from that CD are on his Greatest Hits album. But a great album it is!!
Rick
luvvinvinyl
08-16-2008, 06:56 PM
Ditto Carnegie Hall. Another goodun was srv and albert king, don't remember the title, sorry.
As chuckworkb posted, In Session. Recorded in Dec/83, at CHCH studios, in Hamilton Ontario. Friend of mine, one-time bandmate, and no slouch guitarist himself, worked at the studio when it was recorded. Said AK, SRV, and about 6 other guys, including my buddy, stayed up all night, jamming. No tapes were recorded of that all-nighter.
Too bad.
Tapehead47
08-16-2008, 07:00 PM
SRV was an amazing guitarist, he picked up where Johnny Winter left off. Do a little research on him and you will find an interesting progression from Texas bar bands, to David Bowie guitarist, to his own stuff.
I got to see him when he was playing bars a few times, and he really tore it up. The first time I thought he was going to destroy his guitar- he was beating on it, dropping it, bending the neck against his amp-just crazy Hendrix-like antics. My eyes were tearing because I was afraid to blink and miss something. Next time, same guitar, same crazy stuff. Quite the showman he was.
How could you ever think he sucks?
Anyone who likes him should also check out early Johnny Winter. I am pretty sure they used the same rhythm section. Very similar blues styles, both Texans, and very soulful blues artists.
Cool, grille, you actually saw him perform in person! Must have been an unforgettable experience for you. Didn't know he played with Bowie (not a fan).
Double Trouble played with Winter, too. They're like a band-for-hire when a headliner needs to record or play live. That's about all I know, except they've played with other headliners who I can't think of now.
My favorite Johnny Winter album is Second Winter. I have a few of his LP's, but haven't played them much lately. He does my favorite rendition of Johnny B. Goode. Highway 61 Revisited kicks big time, too!
Rick
Marantz7t15
08-16-2008, 07:48 PM
SRV was an amazing guitarist, he picked up where Johnny Winter left off. Do a little research on him and you will find an interesting progression from Texas bar bands, to David Bowie guitarist, to his own stuff.
I got to see him when he was playing bars a few times, and he really tore it up. The first time I thought he was going to destroy his guitar- he was beating on it, dropping it, bending the neck against his amp-just crazy Hendrix-like antics. My eyes were tearing because I was afraid to blink and miss something. Next time, same guitar, same crazy stuff. Quite the showman he was.
How could you ever think he sucks?
Anyone who likes him should also check out early Johnny Winter. I am pretty sure they used the same rhythm section. Very similar blues styles, both Texans, and very soulful blues artists.
At that time, I thought he sucked, because I didn't have the appreciation for blues! I was a teenager, who only listened to Rock. Today I absolutely love symphony, jazz, blue grass, and just recently-blues. It's true. We never stop developing our tastes, eh?
Jonesy09
08-16-2008, 08:25 PM
Get everything you can get your hands on! You will not be disappointed. Texas flood is one of my favorites but I agree on the Albert King CD, it's fantastic. Hell, they all rock :thmbsp:
Some of the best sounding SRV I own however is Live Alive on vinyl. Melting-butter-goodness. Live at the El Mocambo is a fantastic DVD. Small(ish) club setting and an absolutely electric atmosphere. He's truly on another plane.
I'm not the kind of guy to regret things, no matter how unfortunate or embarrasing, but if there's one thing I do it's passing on the tickets to the Alpine Valley show that I was offered. Working two jobs and going to school with a small kid narrows your larger perception. "Can't make it. I'll catch him next time". :no::tears:
thisOne
08-16-2008, 08:46 PM
We're talking about Stevie Ray Vaughan, right?
;)
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble's "Couldn't Stand the Weather". Some major classics....
... actually. this thread might be about
Stevie Ray Vaughn, or at least I think it is...
He rocks...
the other guys..., Stevie Ray Vaghan and Stevie Ray Vaughan both SUCK!
IMHO...:D
getright99
08-16-2008, 11:08 PM
'dirty pool' has to be one of my favorite live recordings ever, off the carnegie hall album. i love how he could sing his ass off right over the craziest soloing. you'll never hear clapton pull that off. 'lenny' is a killer live instrumental as well.
Chuck M
08-16-2008, 11:30 PM
It is really too bad he passed away so young.
I never get tired of hearing him play.
One of my favorite CD's is, In Session with Albert King and Stevie.
chuckworkb,
We must be brothers... In Session is outstanding, as are all of the SRV albums, but this one is special.
Truly a dark day when we lost Stevie, and after turning his life around. I think his best work was still to come. Tragic. I wish I could have seen a live show.
GoMizzou1954
08-17-2008, 12:07 AM
Double Trouble played with Winter, too. They're like a band-for-hire when a headliner needs to record or play live. That's about all I know, except they've played with other headliners who I can't think of now.
Rick
Actually, Tommy Shannon(Bass) played with Johnny Winter. Chris Layton(Drums) never did. Only after Stevie's death, Double Trouble played with Kenny Wayne Shepherd recently on the 10 Days Out Tour. They also had a brief stint with Doyle Bramhall II and Charley Sexton as a group known as Arc Angels. They also played with a group that did a couple of cd's know as Storyville. There are some really good books on SRV, one is Caught In The Crossfire by Patoski and Crawford. Very interesting reading.
Saint Johnny
08-17-2008, 01:26 AM
No ones yet mentioned Stevie's also on Bowies' 'Lets Dance' record?
chuckworkb
08-17-2008, 06:38 AM
You can catch Stevie playing guitar on the first track of Jennifer Warnes, Famous Blue Raincoat.
I wonder if there is a list somewhere of all the records he played on.
shrinkboy
08-17-2008, 07:49 AM
why in the world had you 'always thought SRV sucked?'-- he is one of Oak Cliff, Texas finest, and while we're on the topic of great electric blues guitarists, why not mention T-bone Walker?
shrinkboy
08-17-2008, 07:53 AM
that's him soloing himself into history on Bowie's 'Let's Dance'....his older brother Jimmy Vaughan used to have a band called Storm, or Jimmy Vaughn and Storm that used to play a local blues venue named Mother Blues back in the earliest 70s. stevie would hang around with them on some of their dates, playing rhythm guitar when he was around 14-15, and every now and then, big bro would let 'little Stevie' come to the front for some awesome solos.
luvvinvinyl
08-17-2008, 08:35 AM
The video of that session is available on DVD.
luckyed
08-17-2008, 08:52 AM
SRV was an amazing guitarist, he picked up where Johnny Winter left off. Do a little research on him and you will find an interesting progression from Texas bar bands, to David Bowie guitarist, to his own stuff.
I got to see him when he was playing bars a few times, and he really tore it up. The first time I thought he was going to destroy his guitar- he was beating on it, dropping it, bending the neck against his amp-just crazy Hendrix-like antics. My eyes were tearing because I was afraid to blink and miss something. Next time, same guitar, same crazy stuff. Quite the showman he was.
How could you ever think he sucks?
Anyone who likes him should also check out early Johnny Winter. I am pretty sure they used the same rhythm section. Very similar blues styles, both Texans, and very soulful blues artists.
Cool. I got to see him only once on his tour with Jeff Beck. It was a great show. Two headline bands. I think I may have a cassette bootleg of that show here somewhere. Gotta look around and find out how I can put it onto a CD.
exracer
08-17-2008, 09:02 AM
All his stuff is awesome. The story goes when Clapton heard him on the radio for the first time, he had to pull over and listen to it; the only time he has ever done that. :music:
Saint Johnny
08-17-2008, 12:33 PM
All his stuff is awesome. The story goes when Clapton heard him on the radio for the first time, he had to pull over and listen to it; the only time he has ever done that. :music:
This is probably in bad taste, but I always found it funny, in a 'black humor' kinda way:
The day Stevie died in the helicopter crash, he had just finished jamming with Clapton. Supposedly Clapton was going to take the 'copter too, but for some reason didn't.
When my friend Lenny, who is a big Stevie fan, called to tell me, he said. "Oh man, why couldn't it have been Clapton who went down in that copter instead of Stevie? Stevie was great, so young and so much better than that old geezer. We've heard everything we ever need to hear out of Clapton, that boring old fart. He hasn't been any good for decades. Just the same boring records over and over. Stevie was so much better than Clapton, talent alone should've saved him."
It made me laugh, at a very sad moment.
shrinkboy
08-17-2008, 12:51 PM
my thoughts exactly, at the exact moment i heard the news. clapton's been done for for years. its funny how some become boring old farts, and some never do. did anyone ever think of john lee hooker or b.b. king as boring old farts? nope. howlin' wolf? nope. but i've thought of clapton as the lawrence welk of rock and roll for a long time now.
Tapehead47
08-17-2008, 02:41 PM
When a friend, Chris, turned me on to Stevie about 1986 and told me he was better than Eric I was in denial. Clapton had a very strong influence on my musical tastes since his Cream and Mayal days. I was, like, "Are you joking? This guy? No F'n way" and it went on for 20 years like that.
About 3 years ago I got Clapton's "Crossroads DVD". Maybe 2 years ago, I can't remember. I enjoyed much, but not all, of it. However, I'm watching Eric jam with various bands and thinking "is that all there is?" It's the same ol' same ol' stuff. Not bad stuff, but in the intervening years I had discovered Walter Trout, Gary Moore, Rory Gallagher, and so on. And I was listening to EC less and less at the same time.
I maintain that Clapton is one of the best. Ever! I don't think anyone can deny that honestly.
To me the downhill slide started with Derek and the Dominoes. That LP never did much for me. Equally boring was 451 Ocean Blvd, and all the stuff he made until Back to the Cradle. Touring with the King was boring, too.
Oh, and Unplugged is coma-inducing, as is a recent one "Road to Escondido" or whatever, with JJ Cale. And Claptons little-boy-wonder Mayer is about the most untalented, uninteresting talent I've ever seen.
SRV certainly has it over EC's newer stuff (for the last 20 years).
But who can venture into what SRV would be doing nowdays. He may be just as boring, or even dead. :D
Rick
Saint Johnny
08-17-2008, 02:56 PM
To me the downhill slide started with Derek and the Dominoes. That LP never did much for me. Equally boring was 451 Ocean Blvd, and all the stuff he made until Back to the Cradle. Touring with the King was boring, too.
Oh, and Unplugged is coma-inducing, as is a recent one "Road to Escondido" or whatever, with JJ Cale. And Claptons little-boy-wonder Mayer is about the most untalented, uninteresting talent I've ever seen.
SRV certainly has it over EC's newer stuff (for the last 20 years).
But who can venture into what SRV would be doing nowdays. He may be just as boring, or even dead. :D
Rick
I happen to like most of the Dominoes record, but not much since then. I just blame it all on Patti Boyd. :D
Contrary to popular opinion, it was not Yoko or Linda who broke up the Beatles, but it was in fact, the Patti Boyd.
jsarsfield
08-17-2008, 03:07 PM
No one has mentioned the album In Step. I like that one a lot.
Def. his greatest record ... The first one he recorded clean and sober but I
have to say my favourite song is "Life by the Drop" ab"soul"utely amazing vocal performance his passion just oozes
R.I.P. STEVIE ... You were the greatest the world weeps for what we will never hear and what you gave us is a gift from a higher power
Saint Johnny
08-17-2008, 03:15 PM
have to say my favourite song is "Life by the Drop" ab"soul"utely amazing vocal performance his passion just oozes
One of Stevies' absolute best I agree!I love that song. :thmbsp:
And I happen to like Stevies version of Little Wing, maybe more than Hendrix'.
jsarsfield
08-17-2008, 04:38 PM
One of Stevies' absolute best I agree!I love that song. :thmbsp:
And I happen to like Stevies version of Little Wing, maybe more than Hendrix'.
The live at the El mocombo version of Lenny is a crazy good performance as well and I agree with you on stevie's version of little wing
shimniok
08-17-2008, 04:49 PM
Unfortunately I let go a bootleg tape of his... it made my only CD of his sound boring. Thanks for the reminder, will have to see about getting my hands on some of his stuff. Also brings back a fond memory of listening to one of his albums with a friend on a Nak deck through a set of older Bostons (my first real intro to hi fi, I think).
Jonesy09
08-17-2008, 05:42 PM
my thoughts exactly, at the exact moment i heard the news. clapton's been done for for years. its funny how some become boring old farts, and some never do. did anyone ever think of john lee hooker or b.b. king as boring old farts? nope. howlin' wolf? nope. but i've thought of clapton as the lawrence welk of rock and roll for a long time now.
It feels good to find common voices of dissention! I've been saying this for years and have been getting nothing but static and wierd looks. "Clapton rules! He's one of the greatest blues guitarists ever!" :yuck::bash::finger:
I can't stand that crap. Sorry if i come off as a Clapton-hater, but.....I am.
grillebilly
08-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Clapton was never as dynamic post Cream. Rumor has it he was a heroin addict. I am not a musician so it is hard to criticize, but Clapton is a huge talent, he has just gone the more traditional route with his style. I have spoken with a few players who tell me that is harder to master than the fast-paced blues/rock. I have tons of respect for him, but the only recordings I listen to by him is Cream. That stuff was from the gut, Jack Bruce made it feel alive.
just me.
Tapehead47
08-17-2008, 07:14 PM
Clapton was never as dynamic post Cream. I have tons of respect for him, but the only recordings I listen to by him is Cream. That stuff was from the gut, Jack Bruce made it feel alive.
just me.
Just me, too.
Rick
getright99
08-17-2008, 08:00 PM
what's all this clapton squawking about??!!! srv forgot more than ec will ever know about guitar, and that's the truth. it's like comparing secretariat to mr. ed. :banana:
grillebilly
08-17-2008, 08:14 PM
what's all this clapton squawking about??!!! srv forgot more than ec will ever know about guitar, and that's the truth. it's like comparing secretariat to mr. ed. :banana:
...and you must be Carlos Santana.....
getright99
08-17-2008, 08:18 PM
he's no good either.
Tapehead47
08-17-2008, 08:30 PM
he's no good either.
Now you've drawn the line
Tube Radio
08-17-2008, 08:38 PM
I like Tin Pan Alley by SRV. I need to listen to his other stuff though.
Tapehead47
08-17-2008, 08:41 PM
I like Tin Pan Alley by SRV. I need to listen to his other stuff though.
Great stuff. Desert island material.
getright99
08-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Now you've drawn the line
he started it.:beer:
Tapehead47
08-17-2008, 08:57 PM
he started it.:beer:
It doesn't make you a bad person :D
I like all 3 musicians. I put Carlos in a seperate catagory.
exracer
08-18-2008, 08:33 AM
And Claptons little-boy-wonder Mayer is about the most untalented, uninteresting talent I've ever seen.
Rick
John Mayer? I didnt know that. I disagree, I think Mayer is talented, but I wish he would use his talent and actually play the damn guitar, instead of writing all those radio lullabies...
Jupiter1610
08-18-2008, 02:06 PM
Agreed, John Mayer is actually talented. I have seen him a few times live and he can really play. However I also agree that he does not use his talent well, trying too hard to cater to a mass audience. His studio stuff often comes off this way...too slick.
Tapehead47
08-18-2008, 03:38 PM
Although I'm of the opinion Mayer is boring and untalented he does have his uses: bring people better music :music:.
Mayer is heads and shoulders above much of the popular stuff I've heard.
I know he's that way because my wife likes him.
Zeromancer
08-18-2008, 03:45 PM
SRV - Blues At Sunrise
Zeromancer
08-18-2008, 03:46 PM
John Mayer? I didnt know that. I disagree, I think Mayer is talented, but I wish he would use his talent and actually play the damn guitar, instead of writing all those radio lullabies...
He rocked out like a mofo on Eric Clapton's Crossroads Guitar Festival dvd.
:banana::banana:
Zeromancer
08-18-2008, 03:51 PM
SRV played with 13 gauge strings
bowdown
geespot
08-18-2008, 03:54 PM
"Life by the Drop"
I have his Nashville '78 bootleg CD with a very early version of Pride and Joy. Also, I have a limited edition wood carved box set which contains In the Beginning and Sky is Crying.
getright99
08-22-2008, 09:00 PM
legend has it he'd put superglue on his fingers and let it dry so he could get those bends he got.
braincramp
08-22-2008, 09:23 PM
what's all this clapton squawking about??!!! srv forgot more than ec will ever know about guitar, and that's the truth. it's like comparing secretariat to mr. ed. :banana:
As a musician of over 40 years your quote is just plain wrong.In reality Stevie and Clapton had two totally different styles therefore hard to compare.Besides music isn't a competition.But I prefer SRV also. I had tickets to go see Clapton and Stevie at Alpine Valley the night he was killed and I never made it.It still bums me out.
GoMizzou1954
08-22-2008, 10:28 PM
legend has it he'd put superglue on his fingers and let it dry so he could get those bends he got.
From "Caught In The Crossfire", page 121. On many nights, Stevie played to blood. "One evening between sets at Fat Dawg's in Lubbock, he rushed into the office where manager Bruce Jaggers was counting change.
"Man you got any superglue?" Stevie asked.
"Yeah. What do you want if for?" replied Jaggers.
"Aw, I pulled this callus loose here on my finger all the way down to the quick."
Jagger rifled through his desk and tossed him the tube. His jaw dropped as he watched Stevie squeeze the glue onto his bloody finger, reattach the callus, and hold it down.
"Hey, you don't have to do that," Jaggers protested. "Two sets are enough. The crowd will understand."
"Nah," Stevie said, motioning him away. "I've got to do this. I need to do this." He tossed the tube back to Jaggers and walked back out into the club.
epifanatic
08-22-2008, 10:36 PM
It's all good.......
mfhale
08-22-2008, 11:03 PM
Maybe I'm a liitle behind in the conversation, but 'Life By the Drop' is, hands-down, my favorite. That song, more than any other, sums up SRV's life to that point, IMHO.
I was fortunate enough to see him one time live. At the time, I was into JP, Iron Maiden and the like. I went against my will to see The Fab T-birds (SRV's baby brother, Jimmie), SRV and The Who play the Astrodome on 2 September 1989...the day after my 21st birthday. Bar none, the best concert I've ever seen.
Less than a year later, he was dead.
The parallels to the 'Day the Music Died' are uncanny.
I don't pretend to be the foremost SRV authority, but I do feel a certain kinship to one of the best Texas blues talents who ever lived.
Enough melancholy stuff.
If you are a fan of SRV, check out:
Chris Duarte - one time session guitarist with Stevie and fantastic Texas blues guitarist.
Eric Johnson - did the Texas college club circuit back in my day and is definitely a huge talent in the blues genre.
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