In Flux of White Van Speakers on CL Lately.

[HypnoToad]

There has been Kirsch, Omni Audio and now these in the past week.

"WOW, I'VE JUST REDUCED THESE FROM $2500 EACH TO $899 FOR ALL 4, YES, I SAID ALL 4 OF THESE TOP OF THE LINE, QUALITY SPEAKERS.... BUT HURRY - THE FIRST ONE WITH THE MONEY GETS THEM.... WILL NOT HOLD....

*****************4 each 4' heavy duty professional home theatre quality sound system towers. Theatre series... digital loud speaker TR-2800 Model, black towers. Top of the line, cost $2500 EACH, selling all 4 which are still in their original boxes, Never used for only $1800 TODAY!!! NOW ONLY $999 FOR ALL 4...************* Houston-CL

I hope these are not the scammers putting these on. Probably people who have been caught and trying to recoup their cash at someone elses expense.

[sealy]

They're still scammers. They got rooked and now they are trying to rook someone else. Turns previously honest people into crooks.

[stereofanboy]

I often wonder if those people even realize they've been had. I bought a pair of white van tower speakers for $20 at the flea market and I must say, I've owned worse speakers. It might be easy for Joe Average to believe that these really are high quality.

[arcellus]

Wow - I was about to ask what "white van speakers" are, but found a wikipedia page on the scam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speakers

Unbelievable!

[kermit z]

I have seen a large amount of DiVinci systems in the local CL. Whats interesting is one ad the other day was titled DaVinci speakers but in the ad said DiVinci. I'm assuming there is some legal issues with this. But it goes to show a person really needs to research these things before plunking down 900.00 or 2500.00 bucks. If you get scammed now days with the internet at your disposal, then shame on you :(

[Rome]

Hi HypnoToad

If a deal presents itself to good to be true, then it probably is.

They are looking for people who are not knowledgeable in audio equipment.

Educate yourself, you will thank youself in the long run.

Rome

[AzFeedback]

Not only do I see sometimes 3 a day on CL, but now they are more creative. Like abbreviations for white van name brands, DaVi or DigAco. Even "my roomate moved out and left these great speakers with shipping straps still on the boxes" line ! ! !

[Cheese Grits]

When I see them, I just flag them and hope that other people do likewise.

[ShaneC]

When I see them, I just flag them and hope that other people do likewise.

...but honestly...why? Yes, they're crap and it is a ripoff, however it is a tangible product for sale at a price. Ya know, kinda like Bose... :D

[dinglebeer]

...but honestly...why? Yes, they're crap and it is a ripoff, however it is a tangible product for sale at a price. Ya know, kinda like Bose... :D

Because they completely misrepresent the price of the product, just to fool people into buying them.Just lately I've seen one Definitive Sound Technology, which as an owner of Definitive Technology speakers, cheeses me off.

[Cheese Grits]

...but honestly...why? Yes, they're crap and it is a ripoff, however it is a tangible product for sale at a price. Ya know, kinda like Bose... :D

I flag them because the "electronics" section of CL in Atlanta is already overrun with scams for cracked cell phones, new shipments of Wiis, Chinese iPhone knockffs, etc. White van speakers may be a product for a price, but I see five or six ads for that crap a day. It's annoying. So, I don't really care if these schlocky businesses are given a fair shake. I flag them because they annoy me. It's just a bonus that they are inherently dishonest. Lots of these people are actually committing fraud.

[Sir.Byrd]

How can it be a "professional" home theater system?

[NYListens]

How can it be a "professional" home theater system?

Speak for yourself, we have a popcorn stand and charge ten bucks a person to watch a movie in our basement theater.

Just kidding.

[tankdonovan]

Craigslist is a great thing. I use it a lot to buy and sell. But scam artist may ruin it in time.

A new phrase, "Craigslist Speakers" to take the place of "White Van speakers". LOL

TankDonovan

[ShaneC]

Because they completely misrepresent the price of the product, just to fool people into buying them.Just lately I've seen one Definitive Sound Technology, which as an owner of Definitive Technology speakers, cheeses me off.

fair'nuff.

[lunchmeat]

My personal white van favorites are the Yambekas. The name must have sounded good when they were drunk.

[SpruceMoose]

NYL, the MPAA would like a word with you... ;)

[BrocLuno]

White Vans OK for $20 pair to use as patio speakers and then roast :)

[wizargoz]

These are also showing up at the thrift stores, too, with the corresponding high price ($149-$199) on them because they use CL and eBay for pricing.
But even there, no one will touch them...

[rockin1150]

I admit I once saw a pair at a pawn shop here in utah, and spent 125 bucks on them, took em home and my AR's were way better. They looked really nice in my defense! lmao

[highping]

Are these considered "white van" speakers:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/897680799.html

I did a google search on DPA 2.8 and came up with a scam article from 2005. Just curious 'cause the price is appealing. Just wish they were closer to where I live. :)

[emoxley]

When I see white van speakers listed on CL, I send the poster an this email. You should do the same. They usually remove the listing, and send me back an email thanking me for the info:


I'll try not to be too harsh..................yet.
If you are really naive about these speakers, and don't know any better, I'll give you a chance to remove your listing from CL, before I report you to the State Attorney General's office. But, after the info I'm about to give you, if you still try to sell these speakers for more than $40, I'll make it my project to make sure you're arrested for fraud. Don't like doing this to people, but I won't allow the good people of NC to be ripped off by people trying to make a fast buck, on garbage! So, in case you really are naive about them, here is the info. Read the whole page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speakers
I really hope you're not trying to rip people off, on purpose!

Here, also, is a list of known "white van" speaker brands. Notice the DiVinci's are in the list?

White Van Speakers List

Acoustic Response Series 707
Acoustic Image 3311 / 3312
Acoustic Lab Technology
Acoustic Monitor
Acoustic 3312 Studio Monitor
Acoustic Response
Advanced Sound Technologies AST X2 1055
Audiofile 583LR
Audiofile 835LR
Audiofile THX 6.1
Audio Tech
Dahlton KV 1500
Dahlton KV 2500 TI Speakers
Dahlton AV5.1 THX
DanWave DW-6
DanWave DW-606
DanWave DW-607
DanWave DW-608
Dan Wave DW-1000
http://www.divincisound.com
Divinci Sound
DiVinci Innovative Sound & Bass
Divinci Sound D6 D-6
Divinci Sound DV7010 DV-7010
Divinci Sound DV6030 Dv-6030
Divinci Sound DV505 DV-505
Divinci Sound DA6.1 DA-6.1
Divinci D-52
Divinci DV-606
Divinci DV-607
Divinci DV-608
Divinci DV-1420
Divinci DV-1450
Divinci DV-1412
Divinci DV-1450
Divinci DV- 607
Divinci DV-2150
Divinci DV-2100
Denmark
Denmark Loud Speaker E830LR
Digital Audio DHT 5.1
Digital Audio SL-3810
Digital Audio DA 2000SL / 2000CS
Digital Audio 2000
Digital Audio 2002
Digital Audio 2012 7.1
Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems SL-3810
Digital Audio Skyline 900-SL
Digital Audio SL-3910 Speakers
Digital Audio 2003 DA 5.1 Pro-Series III
Digital Dogg Audio
Digital Pro Audio
Digital Pro Audio SL-T 2.8
Digital Research 5.1 Pro Series
Digital Research DA 5.1 Pro Series III
Digital Research DR-1000
Digital Research DR-2810
Digital Research DR-1610
Digital Research DR-1611
Dogg Digital
Dynalab
Epiphany Audio speakers
Elite Audio
Elite Audio EA-505
Elite Audio EA-608
Elite Audio EA-1620
Elite Audio EA-7012
Epic Sound 7.1
Fleetwood Audio
Genesis
Genesis Media Labs
Genesis G6.1 Digital Series
Genesis G-505
Genesis G-506
Genesis G-507
Genesis G-608
Genesis G-609
Genesis G-610
Genesis G-1420
Genesis G-1620
Genesis G-1630
Genesis G-2815
Genesis G-2840
Genesis G-2850
Genesis G-2870
Genesis G-2875
Genesis G-2880
Genesis G-2885
Genesis G-2950
Genesis G-2960
Genesis G-6030
Genesis G-6035
Genesis G-6040
Genesis G-7012
http://www.genesismedialabs.com
Grafdale
Hauffman
Innovative Sound Digital Pro Audio
Kirsch K3
Kirsch K10
Kirsch Prodigy K803
http://www.kirschloudspeakers.com
Linear Phase studio monitors
http://matrixaudioconcepts.com
Matrix Audio Concepts
Matrix MX-1300
MX-404
MX-550
MX-6160
MX-2060
MX-605S
Millenium
Millenium MTS-2006p
Millenium MTS-2208
Millenium MTS-2328
Millenium MTS-2300
Millenium MTS-2605
Millenium MTS-3100
http://www.mtsspeakers.com
Omni Audio
PSD (2.8)
PTS PT-5500S
PTS (Precision Transducer Systems)
http://www.ptswoofers.com
Palermo VA 6.1
Paradyme
Pro Audio
Pro Dynamics Pro Platinium Series
Pro Dynamics PD-9600
Proline Acoustic
Protecsound PT-5000 digital surround sound system speakers
Samurai 518
Skyline AD-900SL
Skyline Digital Denmark 800 or 900 "series"
Studio Tech (Pro Poly Series)
Theater Innovations (Ti 5100)
TI-440MR TI~440MR
TI-440R TI~440R
TI-440M TI~440M
TI-5100 TI~5100
TI-5150T TI~5150T
TI~1250 TI-1250
TI~1255 TI-1255
TI~1300 TI-1300
TI~1650 TI-1650
TI~1655 TI-1655
TI~6000SD TI-6000SD
TI~6100 TI-6100
TI~1750 TI-6200
http://www.theater-innovations.com
Theater Logic
http://theaterlogichomecinema.com/
Theater Logic L5ti
Theater Logic L6
Theater Logic L8TI 5.1
Theater Logic T 2400
Theater Logic T 2450
http://www.trtheaterresearch.com
Theater Research TR-501
Theater Research TR-900
Theater Research TR-1120
Theater Research TR-1400
Theater Research TR-1410 Digital Sound Speakers
Theater Research TR-2380
Theater Research TR-2810
Theater Research TR-5210 Professional Home Theater
Theater Research TR5160
Theater Research TR6000
Theater Research TR-6100 Digital Sound/5.1 Home Cinema
Theater Research 8810
Theater Research Pro Series III Professional Home
Ultra Digital Labs

[Celt]

Moved. Auction discussion with links and doesn't belong in the speakers forum.

[EastPoint]

There was a pair of Denmark speakers at Goodwill the other week for $24.99 apiece. They were gone the next day.

[Susurus]

I 'flag' them. Once I flagged a 'warning' post by mistake! :sigh: If 4 of us in each city flagged them on sight, they'd start to get real paranoid... :para:

emoxley I'd recommend a little caution about personalizing your response. Remember you are dealing with organized crooks. They may be simple scammers, or they may cross over into the violent crimes division if they perceive a threat to their source of easy dough.

[highping]

Moved. Auction discussion with links and doesn't belong in the speakers forum.


Thank you Celt.
I will make sure that any Craigslist or Auction ads are posted here .....my bad. :)

[ustarock]

Wow.
This thread brings me back... I had almost forgotten...
Waaay back, 18 yrs old, stopped in the grocery store parking lot by some desperate dudes...
left with a pair of big speakers for $50. I was psyched.
Older friends came over the same night, and asked right off the bat:
"Oh yeah. Driving a white van?"
Ahh, let the learning begun...

Old tricks die hard.

[ic-racer]

Here is a new listing: http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/ele/964511741.html

elite audio house speakers cinema 5 series 400 watts 4 way w/ subwoofer 15" wide, and 40" tall. 300.00 for both or 150.00 for one. paid 2000.00 apiece for both letting go for cheap.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/ele/964107515.html

pd 250.00 couple of yrs ago and never used they are 41.5 in tall and 60lbs ea took pics of bx if want to see more will take them out. These are speakers for a home theatre setup

Sometimes I wonder if these people are scammers or just got duped themselves.

[harleyfatboy]

Ive seen a couple of listings where the poster was honest and said he got ripped off and was trying to sell them cheap. I've only seen one white van selling these speakers on the road lately and it was in a parking lot with out of state tags trying to sell them to someone who didnt speak English....I felt like saying something about them trying to rip off this guy, but 2 dudes in a van vs. 1 of me...:scratch2:

[ManFromPorlock]

How can it be a "professional" home theater system?

"Professional," in adspeak, just means that a thing (whatever it is) is priced 67% higher than the identical thing in non-professional guise. The same goes for things advertised as "executive." :yes:

[rikmeister]

everyone knows the red van speakers are the hot ones to buy.

[botrytis]

Well - they car considered counterfeit items and therefore are illegal to sell on CL (based on CL rules) - I just flag them as VERBOTEN!

[vegabass25]

everyone knows the red van speakers are the hot ones to buy.

Im in stitches :D