View Full Version : Borrow, loan, try


Ski
10-24-2008, 09:19 PM
I realized the other day (some time ago) that between the bunch of us, we have a bunch of gear that isn't being used. I would rather let somebody try a pair of speakers, jitter reducer, or cables that I have, than to have them collect dust. I'm sure many of you feel the same way.

Obviously it would be voluntary and depend on your level of comfort with that person and the gear in question.


I'll start:

AA jitter reducers
AA DAC
Accurian amp
Teac chip amp
Klipsch 5.1 decoder
Magnepan SMGb pair
JBL Lancer 33 pair
DIY interconnects

djnagle
10-24-2008, 11:16 PM
OK, I'll add

- ESS AMT 1C Econowave hybrid speakers
- American Monitor 8 speakers

Ski
11-11-2008, 02:45 AM
I would love to try your speakers.

I can't believe this resource might go to waste.

jmathers
11-11-2008, 08:30 AM
I think this thread is an excellent idea. I am surprised more folks haven't chimed in.

Folks need to realize that there's no obligation here once you've listed your stuff to lend out. Also it may be nice to include temporary TRADE here too. I'd lend out my phono preamp for example if I was assured of getting something else to replace it in my system for a limited amount of time.

Jeff

Andyman
11-12-2008, 02:01 PM
I've got a set of Dynaco A25s I could loan someone for a trial

Ski
11-13-2008, 03:54 AM
Andy - I would love to borrow (or at least spend some time with) your DIY RCM. I recently got back into vinyl and would like to build one myself. I know there are links but they can't compare to actual visual and tactile versions. I'm stupid like that.

I would love to borrow a phono stage from somebody, but something cheap that I might consider buying (not happening right now) or something to give me a taste of what my rig could do.

Strawman
11-13-2008, 08:14 PM
Hey Mark,
I'm not sure if it's what you're after, but I have a Music Hall mmf phono pack that supports moving magnet & moving coil cartridges if you want to give it a listen. I found it a bit bright compared to the Bugle.
This is a great idea except I would have a hard time returning most of these offerings. :D
The DAC, AMT's & A-25's sound very intriguing. :thmbsp:
Steve

jmathers
11-14-2008, 10:59 AM
I have a Sansui Tu217 tuner if someone wants to try it out. This came pretty close to my TU717 in terms of sound - it sounds, for lack of a better phrase, a little smaller than the 717. It's a nice tuner...if anybody listens to FM broadcasts anymore:scratch2:

Jeff

Andyman
11-14-2008, 05:20 PM
It's a nice tuner...if anybody listens to FM broadcasts anymore:scratch2:

Jeff

Jeff: Where's the CBC2 plug??? :lmao:

Mark: You're welcome to come on over sometime and we can mess with the RCM a bit. Bring some vinyl and we'll scrub it up.

Steve: If you're SMAC'ing tomorrow, I can bring the A-25s

jmathers
11-15-2008, 09:04 AM
Yes...if you live in SE Michigan (or Canada for that matter) and haven't been listening to CBCRadio2, you should.

Check it out here:

http://www.cbc.ca/radio2/

Available in Detroit metro area at 89.9 FM.


Shameless Radio2 plugger:smoke:
Jeff

Strawman
11-17-2008, 06:33 PM
Sorry I missed the post and the meet Andy, I hope you didn't drag them around for nothing.
Things are just pretty hectic right now. I'll touch base with you sometime soon.
Steve

Kegger
11-21-2008, 04:43 PM
I've got a bunch of different tube amps I could loan out, from push pull triode/UL
to single ended triode/UL to paralell single ended pentode to paralell single ended
Triode/UL.

(2) Kenwood 220wpc M2A amps.

Plenty of different tubes as well, if someone wants to roll something in there gear.

SKI I still got your A25's and other things here, we should get together.

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Oh yah quite a "few" speakers to, some would be Polk Monitor 10's with the new Polk Tweet.
Polk monitor 7's with the peerless tweeter, polk monitor 11's, ADS 880's, Pioneer HPM 60, my
homemade Mini monitor 6.5" woofer and Bolenger ribbon tweeter, Parts express BR-1, b&w 500
Paradigm medium sized 2-way, Diatone (High end of mitsibushi only available over seas) some
Kef 2.5 way, Realistic minumus seven, a pair of Klipsch RC7's can be used as center or an MTM.
(Yah there is..... well maybe just a couple more, oh yah some different JBL's, OK to many to list) :sigh:

240sx4u
11-21-2008, 04:59 PM
I wish I lived in MI sometimes...

botrytis
11-21-2008, 05:28 PM
There be good people in MI - I miss these guys!

jmathers
11-21-2008, 07:50 PM
Ski:

I also have a DIY RCM. You can check it out anytime as well. It was easy to build, and I actually did it in stages. I salvaged a platter from an old Dual TT that Squidward had and bought a microwave cart from Target to mount it on. The vac is just a Home Depot 1 gallon shop vac with various PVC plumbing attachments to lead the nozzle up to the top of the platter. At first manual and then...

Later, I added an ice cream motor and popped in a switch. Now fully automatic. It works great. Don't know how I ever got along without it.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59115

Jeff

jmathers
11-21-2008, 07:52 PM
There be good people in MI - I miss these guys!

We miss you and Gloria as well. Wish we could get together once in awhile and spin some tunes. Still have a Blossom Dearie CD you made for me from one of the SMAC music swaps. Great stuff :D

Hang in there:smoke:

Peace
Jeff

DC
11-22-2008, 10:51 PM
Hi Jeff, Out of curiosity, what is the RPM with your ice ream machine motor?

I built a DIY RCM with a $2 thrift store ice cream maker. However, mine rotates at close to 38RPM and it is not very effective at vacuuming the schmootz off the record at that speed. I have resorted to doing it manually so I can get a better vacuum for each pass. I tried using a variac to slow down the motor, but it didn't work.

Don

jmathers
11-23-2008, 07:42 AM
Yep, mine is fast as well. How did you measure the speed of yours? I'd say 38rpm is about what mine is doing - faster than a turntable by a bit.

I'd agree it's not as effective at that speed. I submitted a thread here asking for help but other than re-gearing the thing I couldn't figure out how to slow it down.

However, I think that it does work if you simply leave the record on longer. I let mine rotate for a good minute or two to get the record completely dry.

Having said that, I'd still like to get the thing slowed down.

What kind of suction tube are you using and how powerful a vacuum?

Jeff

grumpy
11-23-2008, 07:56 AM
Would a variac work as a speed control ? About the only way I can think of to slow it down other then re gearing it.

DC
11-23-2008, 12:52 PM
I measured mine the old fashioned way - I set my digital egg timer for 60 seconds and counted the revolutions! :-)

I too have resorted to just leaving it on longer, but in my mind I think the suction deeper in the groove is better at a slower speed.

As for suction, I bought the smallest wet/dry "shop" vac that Sears carries (on sale for $29.95). I covered the end of the crevice tool wand and cut a slit along the edge. Then I attached a Nitty-Gritty RCM suction pad over the slit, much like their machine. The is LOTS of suction - the record goes "thoomp" against the wand and the suction holds the record against the brush as it turns underneath.

I'll try to find my camera and take a few pics. Maybe tonight.

DC
11-23-2008, 12:53 PM
Would a variac work as a speed control ? About the only way I can think of to slow it down other then re gearing it.

When I used a variac to try to slow it down, I found that about 0-40% on the dial resulted on no movement and 41%-100% resulted in full speed. The narrow area from 40-41% (roughly) is what allowed the motor to slow, but it was so touchy, and the motor lost so much torque, that it turned out to be not useful at all.

I recall that a friend of a friend of a friend reuilds various motors as part of his job. I have been meaning to try to contact him to see if he can just suggest something.

I should add that re-gearing it is probably outside of my ability, or at least certainly beyond my threshold of patience! :-)

DC
11-23-2008, 07:28 PM
I'll try to find my camera and take a few pics. Maybe tonight.

Here are a few pics of my homemade record cleaner.

grumpy
11-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Don this is a post for the loaning of gear. Its not really appropriate to high jack it for DIY LP cleaners.

The site regularly throws errors. Its something that we eventually hope to have repaired. In the mean time it would be best to start a thread devoted to your machine for the sake of not derailing this one.

dnewma04
11-26-2008, 04:20 PM
by the time thanksgiving is over, i could have three sets of speakers to choose from if you'd like to borrow them.

Murphy blaster MBOW1's
Adire Audio HE10.1s
Dipole Indignias

whell
11-26-2008, 08:52 PM
I could loan out the following:

- Marantz 1060 that was recapped a couple years back by an AK member.
- A Marantz 2020b the was recapped by the same member. I bought this at the very 1st AK fest!
- Black Mountain Cable Peak 1 meter balanced interconnects
- Klipsch RB-5 Speakers / Stands
- Carver CT-17 Tuner/Preamp
- Hafler Trans-Ana Power Amp (50 WPC)
- Yamaha K-1000 Cassette Deck
- A couple of cartridges, such as a Stanton 681EEE, Audio Technica AT30E MC

Cosmos
12-13-2008, 12:49 AM
I have:

Polk Monitor 7s
JBL L36
ADS L710
JBL L200B
Altec 9846-8a
Yamaha NS-690 II
Yamaha NS-670
Yamaha NS-200Ma
JBL L110

Try any of the above for a month or two.. (make me an offer if you like it a bunch :D )

epifanatic
12-13-2008, 12:57 AM
Oh man....I wish I could move to Michigan :music:

Ski
12-13-2008, 02:34 AM
Thanks for keeping this thread going guys.

Andy, I would love to come by some day. I'm gonna have 2 weeks off soon. Maybe we can get together.

Dave, Are those Adires the dual concentic ones? I would really like to try those someday. Liberty and Megan should meet.

Ski
12-13-2008, 04:30 AM
I would also love to hear some Econo-waveguide speaker thingies. They seem to be all the rage, but am 6,000 posts and a dollar short to attempt it myself.

grumpy
12-13-2008, 05:08 AM
I would also love to hear some Econo-waveguide speaker thingies. They seem to be all the rage, but am 6,000 posts and a dollar short to attempt it myself.

So drag your but over to the meet today :D

djnagle
12-22-2008, 07:42 PM
Hey Mark, I have time over the break if you'd like to stop by and give my Ewaves a listen. Cheers.

roadrider100
12-22-2008, 09:29 PM
Hi, to all you good people. I haven't been able to go to an AK meet yet, something allways seems to come up, however Jan. meet I'll make room for come hell or high water. Looking for someone local to check out my Marantz 150 tuner alinement.
Also getting into a recap on a Fisher 700 T, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all, and Merry Christmas.
Ken G.

dnewma04
12-22-2008, 09:36 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going guys.

Andy, I would love to come by some day. I'm gonna have 2 weeks off soon. Maybe we can get together.

Dave, Are those Adires the dual concentic ones? I would really like to try those someday. Liberty and Megan should meet.


Ski, they are the Eminence based coaxials that Adire sold as a kit for a while. I picked up my parts seperately and built my own crossovers based on a few improvements to the original design. They need bass supplement, but overall sound pretty damn good.

dnewma04
12-22-2008, 09:38 PM
Hi, to all you good people. I haven't been able to go to an AK meet yet, something allways seems to come up, however Jan. meet I'll make room for come hell or high water. Looking for someone local to check out my Marantz 150 tuner alinement.
Also getting into a recap on a Fisher 700 T, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all, and Merry Christmas.
Ken G.

Ken, you'll want to talk to Mike (Punker X) about the tuner work. He's not inexpensive, but he's the best around for tuner work and he's a SE-MI guy. Worth every penny.

Whereabouts in PH do you live? It'd be nice to have a few more east siders in the group to make an east side meet more feaible.

roadrider100
12-23-2008, 03:11 PM
I live just around the corner form Mark ( justrideit) we swap equipment and vinyl.
I have a Carver 0.5t power amp I'm not using
Ken G.

Ski
12-27-2008, 06:34 PM
Ski, they are the Eminence based coaxials that Adire sold as a kit for a while. I picked up my parts seperately and built my own crossovers based on a few improvements to the original design. They need bass supplement, but overall sound pretty damn good.

Those are the ones. I first heard them at Mid-West Audio Fest in Lima. Very impressive for the price and size.

Ski
12-27-2008, 06:40 PM
Hey Mark, I have time over the break if you'd like to stop by and give my Ewaves a listen. Cheers.

I would love to. I wouldn't hate hearing some of your other stuff either.

djnagle
01-05-2009, 08:27 PM
Anytime Mark. Give me a buzz and we can coordinate a time/date. My number is 248-321-0287.

DC
04-06-2009, 11:33 PM
I have four Auralex 2' foam corner bass traps. I can bring to SMAC meet Saturday if anybody is interested in trying them out in their room. (Didn't do much for me.)

Don

dnewma04
04-06-2009, 11:42 PM
That actually sounds pretty interesting. I wouldn't mind trying them out, or if nothing else, borrowing them for the room Ed and I are hosting for the fest.

DC
04-07-2009, 08:32 AM
Great! Will bring ...