View Full Version : Best EL34 tubes new, which ones?


mcgarick
11-23-2008, 10:58 PM
Hi all

What new EL34 tubes seem to be the best? to you anyway.
Oh ya, which ones to aviod.

Any/all comments welcome.

Ty_Bower
11-23-2008, 11:11 PM
Wish I had a good set of EL34. I seem to get stuck with beam tubes, like 6L6GC, 6CA7, and KT88.

My research suggests the Svetlana "Winged C" are good tubes. I had a bad turn with Electro Harmonix EL34, but I suspect I simply got a dud set. My Electro Harmonix 6CA7 "fat bottles" are excellent tubes, and I wouldn't hesitate to stick them into an EL34 socket.

Cadillac Kid
11-23-2008, 11:16 PM
Is that Andy Dick?

Tinkerbelle
11-23-2008, 11:21 PM
There's several threads on this. You might try doing a search on EL34, 6CA7 or KT77. Some examples:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=193322

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=182995

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=184214

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169457

Rex Everything
11-23-2008, 11:28 PM
SED's

gogofast
11-23-2008, 11:44 PM
yes, winged c's. = C = :thmbsp:

vfr800fiman
11-24-2008, 07:23 AM
My Electro Harmonix 6CA7 "fat bottles" are excellent tubes, and I wouldn't hesitate to stick them into an EL34 socket.
I'll second that, those are my favorite tubes in my SE amp. I also run the EH EL34's in the same amp without any issues, I just feel they just don't sound as good as the 6CA7's FWIW.

Chrome
11-24-2008, 08:42 AM
I just put a set of blue bottle JJ's in a guitar amp I rebuilt. Not a high fidelity application per-se, but none the less. They were damn nice.

I used the same manufacturer on a ST-70 rebuild as well, and that came out as best one could hope for.

However, EH tubes are my go to tubes for allot of things.

I lke them, I get them for a great price, they always work, and sense I'm such a wizzard :D they always sound good for me!

Radfordman
11-24-2008, 08:51 AM
Best, possibly GEC KT77, very expensive though. I do have a set though.

I use JJ KT77 (very cheap) in my Radford STA25, which had new (old stock) Mullard EL34s in it. Do not really notice any difference in sound between JJ KT77 and GEC KT77, but both sound nicer than EL34 (perhaps more refined).

I believe that the KT77 will directly replace any EL34, so safe to use in any amp that was designed for EL34.

mcgarick
11-24-2008, 10:18 AM
Kid,that is Mr. Dick
lol

mcgarick
11-25-2008, 10:57 AM
Anyone using the new Tong-sol EL34's? any good?

mcgarick
04-05-2009, 01:09 AM
Electro Harmonix 6CA7 "fat bottles"
I have found these to be to my liking. Yes, more than sed's which I have too.
Great tubes,almost like a 6L6 sound.

Wmacky
04-05-2009, 01:28 AM
:I do like my 6CA7 Fat Bottles! And for a bonus, they look nice! :yes:





http://bellsouthpwp2.net/b/i/billz1/Image11.jpg

highfigh
04-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Hi all

What new EL34 tubes seem to be the best? to you anyway.
Oh ya, which ones to aviod.

Any/all comments welcome.

I had a set in my Conrad Johnson MV-45 and they were very nice. Wide open and better highs than some of the other brands I had used. These are the E34L, which is supposed to be a military grade.

jaymanaa
04-05-2009, 03:43 PM
I just put a set of blue bottle JJ's in a guitar amp I rebuilt. Not a high fidelity application per-se, but none the less. They were damn nice.

I used the same manufacturer on a ST-70 rebuild as well, and that came out as best one could hope for.

However, EH tubes are my go to tubes for allot of things.

I lke them, I get them for a great price, they always work, and sense I'm such a wizzard :D they always sound good for me!

I like the blue bottles in my ST 70, and the EH are definately my second choice. You might try to find some NOS Siemans too. They are excellent and usually won't break the bank too bad.:music:

diamondsouled
04-05-2009, 03:44 PM
The Groove Tube EL34Ms are well regarded. They are available in different ratings for guitar amp use so order 9s for Hi-Fi use. Many people like these even more than the original Mullard Xf series tubes.

Cheers

Lar

audiodon
04-06-2009, 10:43 AM
I have a quad of new Mullard EL34/7189s. They're a bit bright and I pulled them from my Fisher X-100-3. The X-100-3 is not a dark amp. For a dark amp, or one with slightly muted highs due to circuitry or design, they'd be just the tubes to light it up. So, I'm not parting with them.

mcgarick
04-06-2009, 07:21 PM
I too, bought the new mullards el34's,they were also to bright for my ASL-AQ1003DT
integrated amp which is not at all a "bright amp" I don't like the tubes,although I have not tried them in my Quicksilvers yet,I really like the EL Fat bottle tubes a lot..Hard for me to change them out. I'm stocking up on em too.

vincei
04-07-2009, 12:46 AM
:I do like my 6CA7 Fat Bottles! And for a bonus, they look nice! :yes:





http://bellsouthpwp2.net/b/i/billz1/Image11.jpg

OMG, what a beauty!!!!! :drool:

WopOnTour
04-07-2009, 01:15 AM
I have a quad of new Mullard EL34/7189s. They're a bit bright and I pulled them from my Fisher X-100-3. The X-100-3 is not a dark amp. For a dark amp, or one with slightly muted highs due to circuitry or design, they'd be just the tubes to light it up. So, I'm not parting with them.Don my friend, they are talking 34 not 84! :D
Damn numbers anyways...
;)
WopOnTour

audiodon
04-07-2009, 04:05 PM
WOT,
Thanks.
My mistake. IT's not the first time I've made that one. It's like certain words that I always spell wrong. But you've set me straight.

For 34s, I've used old Sylvania fat bottles, Mullards and EHs. I didn't have enough exposure to A/B/C judge the tubes, but I thought the EHs were not necessarily a downgrade, at least on first impression and on a quick listen after a 40 hour break-in.

WopOnTour
04-07-2009, 04:27 PM
LOL No worries Don, we knew what you meant. :D
Does anyone here have any experienced with the TAD EL34? There looks to be 2 different versions.
an EL34B-STR (these look to be a slightly fatter bottle than the "normal" EH) and an EL34-SVT SVT? Are these made by SED (Svetlana) perhaps??
WOT

http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/images/El34B-STR%20Flash.jpghttp://www.tubeampdoctor.com/images/EL34-SV%20MP.jpg

So does anyone know the root source of these tubes, and if you had a choice- would you choose one over the other? (Looking fr some new production tubes for my pair of FISHER Model 200s which I plan to get started on this weekend.) THANKS-WOT

similost
04-07-2009, 04:48 PM
I just stuffed a quad of Winged C's in my amps a couple weeks ago and am loving the sound of them..

I'm gonna have to look around for some of these fat bottles I guess..

Kegger
04-07-2009, 05:14 PM
My favourite EL34 is the Sylvania Fat Body, and I've pretty much had all the NOS
variants, to me they are a fuller sound covering the whole spectrum well and they
just plain sound BIG.

The others in my setups and taste have a midrange prominence to them, the other
I like is the JJ KT77, some have had problems with the JJ tube but I've not had any.