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simonz 01-04-2009, 10:35 PM I've been putting together a system with vintage components and was looking for interesting music to play. I had stacked my Boston A100's with KLH 5's to get a warm sound with a great lows and high end. Then I played a 20 year old Wynton Marsalis CD (Marsalis Standard Time Vol 1.) that I lhad istened to only a couple of times in the 1980s. I was struck by how much I love this style of music and realized I want more. Also it sounded great on my vintage setup.
What CDs do you jazz fans recommend for me to add to my collection to help be get started into jazz listening?
simonz
Slip Nixon 01-04-2009, 10:37 PM yeah, i've been waiting to refer a jazz album for a while now. i have 1 suggestion, and a must listen for anyone who likes jazz. it is probably well known among the jazz community.
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
http://www.notes.co.il/boaz/user/MINGUS%20The%20Black%20Saint%20and%20the%20Sinner% 20Lady2.jpg
Kierkegaard 01-04-2009, 10:45 PM Kind of Blue, by Miles Davis, is one of the most inspiring jazz masterpieces of all time, an it's the record that's probably initiated more jazz fans than any other. I would love to go back in time and listen to it for the first time all over again.
Mr. Lin 01-04-2009, 10:50 PM yeah, i've been waiting to refer a jazz album for a while now. i have 1 suggestion, and a must listen for anyone who likes jazz. it is probably well known among the jazz community.
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
http://www.notes.co.il/boaz/user/MINGUS%20The%20Black%20Saint%20and%20the%20Sinner% 20Lady2.jpg
Don't get me wrong, I really like that album, but I don't know if I'd recommend it to someone who's looking to get into jazz for the first time, it's a somewhat challenging album.
Aside from Kind of Blue, which is a jazz staple and a great place to start, I also recommend Art Blakey Moanin'.
Sam Cogley 01-04-2009, 10:58 PM As an introduction to the genre, it's hard to go wrong with the 5-CD box that is a companion to the enormous Jazz documentary series produced by Ken Burns. There was also a single-disc companion (which had some of the same tracks and a few different ones as the box) and a set of "best of" discs from a number of notable jazz artists (I think there were around 20 of the artist CDs). Generally available for good prices in the used bin.
Slip Nixon 01-04-2009, 11:03 PM Don't get me wrong, I really like that album, but I don't know if I'd recommend it to someone who's looking to get into jazz for the first time, it's a somewhat challenging album.
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Yeah, I am definitely not a Jazz connoisseur. I would definitely heed your advice if i was simonz, but that album was what attracted me to Jazz. Miles didn't do it for me, Coltrane is good. But none of those artists are comparable to Mingus in my opinion.
Track A blew my mind upon first listen.
Darkspeed 01-04-2009, 11:03 PM Look into most anything on the CTI label. That will cover a nice spectrum of the different styles of Jazz.
Mr. Lin 01-04-2009, 11:14 PM Yeah, I am definitely not a Jazz connoisseur. I would definitely heed your advice if i was simonz, but that album was what attracted me to Jazz. Miles didn't do it for me, Coltrane is good. But none of those artists are comparable to Mingus in my opinion.
Track A blew my mind upon first listen.
Well, I'm certainly no jazz connoisseur myself, that's for sure. You bring up an important point here: everyone has different tastes, so even though I'm nuts about Mile Davis, the OP might well find that he's not. The only reason I made my comment about the Mingus album is that it's rather unusual, I would even say somewhat strange, so it might be too much for someone who's just getting into jazz. That said, I'm in total agreement with you that it's something every fan of jazz should eventually listen to.
Snade 01-04-2009, 11:24 PM Go to pandora.com and create a station of songs by Ella Fitzgerald.
Listen to this for a few weeks and you will begin to understand and get hooked on jazz.
Cheers, Snade
Slip Nixon 01-04-2009, 11:26 PM Well, I'm certainly no jazz connoisseur myself, that's for sure. You bring up an important point here: everyone has different tastes, so even though I'm nuts about Mile Davis, the OP might well find that he's not. The only reason I made my comment about the Mingus album is that it's rather unusual, I would even say somewhat strange, so it might be too much for someone who's just getting into jazz. That said, I'm in total agreement with you that it's something every fan of jazz should eventually listen to.
:yes:
Just curious, is it the timing of the album that makes it strange to you? Mingus was a strange cat anyway, I read a documentary about him, and he would do crazy stuff. One time he was playing a show and he thought the crowd chatter was too loud, so he had his band stop playing completely (with a huge uncomfortable silence) until the crowd stopped talking, then proceeded. He had a huge attitude problem and didn't mind showing it.
Sorry to derail somewhat.
simonz 01-05-2009, 06:55 AM Great suggestion to play selections using Pandora.com. With Pandora I can create a virtual station for each of your recommendations and try before I buy. Very nice.
simonz
ducati_EL34 01-05-2009, 07:32 AM Go to pandora.com and create a station of songs by Ella Fitzgerald.
Listen to this for a few weeks and you will begin to understand and get hooked on jazz.
Cheers, Snade
How about some instrumental Jazz recommendations? I can do without lyrics.
musichal 01-05-2009, 07:49 AM Of course you should get Kind of Blue, Miles. Also Dave Brubeck, Time Out is a classic. In addition, try the Telarc label, In the Digital Mood by Glenn Miller; a very dynamic sound that will be great on your vintage system. The Pandora suggestion is a very good one indeed; you will figure out what you like following the suggestions above. One of my favorite jazz groups is the Modern Jazz Quartet; they played together forever, and with just about everybody at one time or another.
Sonny Rollins, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, Spyra Gyra, Weather Report...just type the names in Pandora and see what appeals.
RawDeal 01-05-2009, 10:19 AM Here is a thread I started a while back:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=150118&highlight=live+jazz
Maybe that will help.
It is a slippery slope. Once bitten with a taste for jazz music you find quickly that it is a very broad subject and that styles intermix and transform as the decades move forward. Your local library may have a wealth to choose from too. I like to separate by instrument:
Trumpet:
Miles Davis
Lee Morgan
Art Farmer
Sax:
Coltrane
Sonny Rollins
Charlie Parker
Drums:
Shelly Manne
Art Blakey
Louis Bellson
Bass:
Ray Brown
Oscar Pettiford
Leroy Vinegar
Piano:
Oscar Peterson
Dave Brubeck
Ahmad Jamal
Trombone:
JJ Johnson
Jack Teagarden
Tommy Dorsey
Vibraphone:
Cal Tjader
Milt Jackson
Terry Gibbs
Guitar:
Wes Montgomery
Kenny Burrell
Grant Green
Enjoy!
opt80 01-05-2009, 10:30 AM RawDeal lists the who's who of jazz. I am a big Mingus fan and an Art Blakey fan.Also early herbie hancock is great and note his later stuff such as The Joni Letters
Cactus Bob 01-05-2009, 10:31 AM A good place to discover music is at the library. You can check out all kinds of music without spending a dime. You can pick up the Ken Burns CD box and the DVD set as well as many other titles in any genre, Bob
slow_jazz 01-05-2009, 10:31 AM I like the Charlie Brown soundtracks from Vince Guaraldi. Nice mellow jazz.
There's always Time Out from Dave Brubeck...
NCPatsFan 01-05-2009, 01:09 PM Here is a thread I started a while back:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=150118&highlight=live+jazz
Maybe that will help.
It is a slippery slope. Once bitten with a taste for jazz music you find quickly that it is a very broad subject and that styles intermix and transform as the decades move forward. Your local library may have a wealth to choose from too. I like to separate by instrument:
Drums:
Shelly Manne
Art Blakey
Louis Bellson
Piano:
Oscar Peterson
Dave Brubeck
Ahmad Jamal
Enjoy!
Good list, but no Buddy Rich?
One more I'd throw in the Piano list is Nat Cole. Although he's more famous and regarded for his singing, he was a hell of a jazz pianist.
My suggestion for an introduction album would be Mile's "Bag's Groove" That was my intro to Miles (and jazz).
caddisgeek 01-05-2009, 02:50 PM Coltrane "Blue Train"
Miles "Kind of Blue"
Brubeck "Time Out" "Countdown, Time in Outer Space"
Lee Morgan "The Sidewinder"
doucanoe 01-05-2009, 05:22 PM It's nice to get suggestions but honestly, Jazz is such a wide and varied genre that making suggestions is like throwing darts at a dart board.
I would do some reading on the history of Jazz and all its forms, then go to a LP/CD shop where you can listen to artists from the different styles. That might give you a better feel for what might appeal to you. Once you figure that out, you can focus on some of the greats and not-so-greats within that or those particular styles.
If that doesn't sound appealing, pickup some jazz compilations that span different styles or focus on one or era's.
I know that doesn't sound immediatly helpful but it will same you money in the long run and expose you to the 10's of dozens of musicians that won't be mentioned here.
RC
Dr. Music 01-05-2009, 06:10 PM A subscription to Jazziz magazine with the accompanying CD each issue. You'll get a plethora of good music and learn about LOTS of great jazz artists in the deal.
Mr. Lin 01-05-2009, 08:21 PM :yes:
Just curious, is it the timing of the album that makes it strange to you? Mingus was a strange cat anyway, I read a documentary about him, and he would do crazy stuff. One time he was playing a show and he thought the crowd chatter was too loud, so he had his band stop playing completely (with a huge uncomfortable silence) until the crowd stopped talking, then proceeded. He had a huge attitude problem and didn't mind showing it.
Sorry to derail somewhat.
Yes, the timing, the arrangements - again, I think it's great, but it's unusual, and IMO one should start with the basics to get a feel for what one likes in the world of jazz, then branch out to more unusual things like Mingus (not all his work is strange), or Sun Ra. Actually, Mingus Ah Um might be a good album to start with in his catalog. I'm a hypocrite anyway, the first jazz I listened to was Sun Ra, it was only when I decided to start listening to everything else that I got Kind of Blue.
niklasthedol 01-05-2009, 08:58 PM A very few cornerstones in the jazz genre + a few follow ups:
Dave Brubeck Quartet: Take Five
Oscar Peterson: Night Train
Bill Evans & Monica Zetterlund: Waltz for Debby
Miles Davis: Kind Of Blue
Louis Armstrong: Plays W. C. Handy
Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto: Getz/Gilberto
Ella Fitzgerald: Sings the Duke Ellington Songbook
Sidney Bechet & Mezz Mezrow: Petit Fleur
Sonny Rollins: Alfie
Nina Simone: Silky Soul
Bob Brookmeyer: ......and Friends
Ben Webster & Harry "Sweets" Edison: The Quintet Studio Sessions
Duke Ellington & Johnny Hodges: Back to Back
Arne Domnérus: Jazz at the Pawnshop
Jan Johansson: Folkvisor
Gene Krupa: Drummin' Man
Wynton Marsalis: Magic Hour
Sergio Mendes: The Swinger from Rio
Charlie Mingus: Ahh Umm
Lee Morgan: Candy
Jaco Pastorius: Word of Mouth
Stephane Grappelli & Stuff Smith: Steff & Stuff.....or is it Stuff & Steff
Coleman Hawkins: Sirius
Swe-Danes: Scandinavian Shuffle
Casandra Wilson: Belly of the Sun
Bela Fleck & the Flecktones: Live at The Quick
I could probably go on for hours here.........................take a pick and see if some of it falls into your taste.
"dolph"
theWB 01-05-2009, 09:05 PM I like the Charlie Brown soundtracks from Vince Guaraldi. Nice mellow jazz.
There's always Time Out from Dave Brubeck...
Two good choices for first time jazz listening, would also recommend
Kenny Burrell ~ Midnight Blue
Patricia Barber ~ Modern Cool
marantzfan 01-05-2009, 09:06 PM Good list, but no Buddy Rich?
One more I'd throw in the Piano list is Nat Cole. Although he's more famous and regarded for his singing, he was a hell of a jazz pianist.
My suggestion for an introduction album would be Mile's "Bag's Groove" That was my intro to Miles (and jazz).
Speaking of jazz pianists....Hello, Thelonius Monk anyone?!?!
niklasthedol 01-05-2009, 09:13 PM Speaking of jazz pianists....Hello, Thelonius Monk anyone?!?!
Way to complicated for a guy wanting to taste jazz.......
"dolph"
mjennens 01-05-2009, 09:14 PM Check out http://www.slacker.com/
Spend some time looking around. They have a pretty extensive selection, LOTS of different types of Jazz, and the options you have, even as a free user, are impressive. The sound quality is far better than typical streamed music.:music:
I signed up and even got a Slacker portable for Christmas.:D
Enjoy,
Mike
reggaenaut 01-05-2009, 09:22 PM Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan.
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