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wordherder62
01-06-2009, 07:19 PM
... for $1.01 today at the Goodwill! Cover is NM but the record could stand some deeper cleaning I think. Norma seemed to have some great records as I also picked up a Buck Owens and the Buckaroos at Carnegie Hall LP from the same batch and the Ray Charles and some of the others had "Norma" written in ballpoint ink on the shrink wrap, which is still intact on most of these records!

"I Can't Stop Loving You" still makes me just sit and shiver everytime I hear it to this day. And to think, this album was released when my mother was pregnant with me! 1962! By the time I got here, it had sold a million copies.

After what had been a really crappy day otherwise, I have to say my trip to the Goodwill paid some big dividends today and I was happy to walk out $5.40 poorer than when I walked in.

Richard

cactuscowboy
01-06-2009, 07:48 PM
Congrats on a nice find!

I love Country Western with the exception of 'New Country'. "She Thinks My Tractors Sexy" and "Honky Tonk Badonk Adonk" make me want to hurl. :puke:

I was listening to Joe Maphis' "King Of The Strings", a late 50s Columbia release yesterday. Killer instrumental LP played at breakneck speed with superb technique and passion. If you ever see it, do not hesitate to grab it.

Buck Owens is great and one of my favorite CW artists. If you don't already have them, look for these two LPs: "I've Got A Tiger By The Tail" (essential honky tonk classic) and "Buck Owens Sings Harlan Howard". Another great live LP is "In Japan".

wordherder62
01-06-2009, 08:51 PM
Congrats on a nice find!

I love Country Western with the exception of 'New Country'. "She Thinks My Tractors Sexy" and "Honky Tonk Badonk Adonk" make me want to hurl. :puke:

I have to agree. I listen to very little, if any of the new country. I'll trend much more toward bluegrass as far as modern stuff goes. It's all pretty much pablum in my view.

I was listening to Joe Maphis' "King Of The Strings", a late 50s Columbia release yesterday. Killer instrumental LP played at breakneck speed with superb technique and passion. If you ever see it, do not hesitate to grab it.

Buck Owens is great and one of my favorite CW artists. If you don't already have them, look for these two LPs: "I've Got A Tiger By The Tail" (essential honky tonk classic) and "Buck Owens Sings Harlan Howard". Another great live LP is "In Japan".

All of those are on my find 'em list. Among the first things I look for in any used record store are Buck Owens albums. The instrumental stuff is clean and well done and the albums are great slices of the best of the West Coast sound as far as country music goes. If you ever watch any of the old videos on You Tube you can see just how much fun the Buckaroos had performing and it comes through on those live albums. I also miss those "XXX sings YYY" albums you used to see all the time. I've got "Willie Nelson Sings Kris Kristofferson" here and I'd love to have that Buck Owens one with the Harlan Howard songs. Howard was one of the best of that golden era of 1950s country music and some of the best sang his songs. I guess in some ways it was a synergistic relationship--his songs made them all seem better and the best people wanted the best songs so they chose HH's stuff!

Anyway, I'm enjoying my little stack from today!

Richard

circlesky73
01-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Ugh. Modern 'country' music. Ugh.

Here's my point: Loretta Lynn's Van Lear Rose. Best reviews for an album she's ever gotten since 1962, when her first LP came out. Top-5 country, Top-10 pop album. People bought it, in droves. The first single, "Portland, Oregon", a duet with Jack White, had HIT stamped all over it. Brilliant record. Video in rotation on CMT, VH1, and MTV (when they actually played music videos).

It didn't chart anywhere.

Now, people obviously wanted to hear the album, because it charted, again, Top-5 country, top-10 pop. But neither single charted. :tears:

What the EFF does that tell you about today's radio?

I have a customer who is a DJ on a semi-local station. He says when someone calls in to request something that isn't on their tightly controlled playlist, they just ignore it. If it's something they are told they can play, the voice is just played back as a pre-song bumper to say "yeah, we play requests!"

I never, ever listen to the radio. Maybe a total of 5 minutes a year, occuring only when changing cassettes in the car. :yes:

davidk5
01-06-2009, 10:49 PM
I recently got an Emmylou harris Lp at my salvation army , cover is trashed , but the Vinyl is VG it's "pieces of the sky" ( i think from 1975) Holy great albums !! James burton on guitar , i was blown away ............just ordered her latest album on LP from her record company for $14 they sell the Vinyl with a cd copy & alos send you 320K mp3's right after you order it , can't wait to get the album :music:

circlesky73
01-06-2009, 10:50 PM
I recently got an Emmylou harris Lp at my salvation army , cover is trashed , but the Vinyl is VG it's "pieces of the sky" ( i think from 1975) Holy great albums !! James burton on guitar , i was blown away ............just ordered her latest album on LP from her record company for $14 they sell the Vinyl with a cd copy & alos send you 320K mp3's right after you order it , can't wait to get the album :music:

Link, please. :banana:

I love her "A Love That Will Never Grow Old", from the Brokeback Mountain soundtrack!!!

ozmoid
01-06-2009, 10:59 PM
127949 Some excellent music. :music:

wordherder62
01-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Sponsor of AK, SoundStageDirect is sure to have her latest album. It's gotten strong reviews and lots of acclaim. But, then again, pretty much everything she does gets the same. I've got the new one on my wish list along with the one she did with Mark Knopfler not long ago.

As for country radio, why bother? Pretty much the same with all radio now. Radio has killed itself and is continuing to follow the same path to destruction that has put it where it is today. Of course they ignore requests and don't go off the formula from corporate. It's why the radio audience is shrinking by the minute. Play the same song over and over until you're sick of it and then never ever play it again until it qualifies for the corporate parent's "Oldies" station ...

I saw several Emmylou records when I was at some of the stores in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago. I think there on my go back and get list--I was trying to stay under $100 that day!:eek:

davidk5
01-06-2009, 11:04 PM
Link, please. :banana:

I love her "A Love That Will Never Grow Old", from the Brokeback Mountain soundtrack!!!

Her label is nonesuch records


http://www.nonesuch.com/

I ordered a few days ago , they were have like a 30% off everything sale & they alos have free shipping if you spend over $20 i think , otherwise it's $2 .

davidk5
01-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Sponsor of AK, SoundStageDirect is sure to have her latest album. It's gotten strong reviews and lots of acclaim. But, then again, pretty much everything she does gets the same. I've got the new one on my wish list along with the one she did with Mark Knopfler not long ago.

As for country radio, why bother? Pretty much the same with all radio now. Radio has killed itself and is continuing to follow the same path to destruction that has put it where it is today. Of course they ignore requests and don't go off the formula from corporate. It's why the radio audience is shrinking by the minute. Play the same song over and over until you're sick of it and then never ever play it again until it qualifies for the corporate parent's "Oldies" station ...

I saw several Emmylou records when I was at some of the stores in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago. I think there on my go back and get list--I was trying to stay under $100 that day!:eek:


Yeh SoundStageDirect is a great place to get Vinyl , ordered from them before the holidays , cool place .
Funny i alos ordered that Emmylou cd with Knopfler as well , i have not received the cd yet , but from the Mp3's they sent me , what a really beautiful album they put out , i'm gonna have to get the Live dvd/cd set they did next .

Patriot1776
01-06-2009, 11:09 PM
Not a 'Modern' Country guy at all. For me on country, it's either 70's Outlaw Country, Johnny Cash, or nothing at all.

When the CMA awards were on last year I put on, one after the other, the two records of Waylon Jennings I have, as loud as I could too. 'Ol Waylon' from 1977 and 'Greatest Hits' from 1979, both of which were staples I listened to as a kid. It was actually wanting to listen to Waylon Jennings the way I remembered it that got me back into vinyl in the first place.

The song 'Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way' applies more than ever, and we need somebody to come out and redo that song in a very, very angry tone as a '[expletive] You!' to the Nashville establishment of today.

Flatwounds
01-06-2009, 11:17 PM
I recently got an Emmylou harris Lp at my salvation army , cover is trashed , but the Vinyl is VG it's "pieces of the sky" ( i think from 1975) Holy great albums !! James burton on guitar , i was blown away ............just ordered her latest album on LP from her record company for $14 they sell the Vinyl with a cd copy & alos send you 320K mp3's right after you order it , can't wait to get the album :music:

Check out "Luxury Liner" from the album of the same name. Albert Lee kills it!:thmbsp:

circlesky73
01-07-2009, 12:45 AM
Not a 'Modern' Country guy at all. For me on country, it's either 70's Outlaw Country, Johnny Cash, or nothing at all.

...

The song 'Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way' applies more than ever, and we need somebody to come out and redo that song in a very, very angry tone as a '[expletive] You!' to the Nashville establishment of today.

Shooter Jennings put out an album titled Put the 'O' Back in Country. Very befitting.

I have the CMT 'Behind the Music'-type show on Cash's American Recordings- they showed his infamous 'one-fingered-salute' to country radio. Then they showed some industry tool saying the idea must have been Rick Rubin's since Cash would never do something like that.

Uh, only most of his career!

The radio issues adressed here also seems to apply to oldies stations too. When they play a Beatles track, it's always "Michelle", "She Loves You", "Something", etc. Never "Paperback Writer", "Strawberry Fields Forever", etc. With my guys, the Monkees, it's always "Daydream Believer" and "I'm a Believer", never "Valleri" or "Words" or the like. "Stick to the ones people are already sick of- they'll love it- love it!"

Sheeple.

davidk5
01-07-2009, 01:02 AM
Check out "Luxury Liner" from the album of the same name. Albert Lee kills it!:thmbsp:


Nice , i'll have to get that one next , just got "ELITE HOTEL" on cd at the store , another great album .
Albert lee did a guitar Clinic at a store i worked at in the 90's , that guy is just a monster player & such a really nice guy .

respite
01-07-2009, 01:02 AM
I like that ray charles record a lot. My favorites though are "invites you to listen" on abc and "the sensational ray charles" on coronet.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/97/234915153_53a1a17bfd.jpg

http://jazzbluesclub.com/uploads/posts/thumbs/1217300059_cover.jpg

Patriot1776
01-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Shooter Jennings put out an album titled Put the 'O' Back in Country. Very befitting.

I have the CMT 'Behind the Music'-type show on Cash's American Recordings- they showed his infamous 'one-fingered-salute' to country radio. Then they showed some industry tool saying the idea must have been Rick Rubin's since Cash would never do something like that.

Uh, only most of his career!

The radio issues adressed here also seems to apply to oldies stations too. When they play a Beatles track, it's always "Michelle", "She Loves You", "Something", etc. Never "Paperback Writer", "Strawberry Fields Forever", etc. With my guys, the Monkees, it's always "Daydream Believer" and "I'm a Believer", never "Valleri" or "Words" or the like. "Stick to the ones people are already sick of- they'll love it- love it!"

Sheeple.

I just last night ordered the vinyl version of one of Shooter's albums, 'The Wolf'. It'll be the first time I've listened to Shooter. How much of Waylon's spirit is in his music?

ScramMan2
01-07-2009, 12:31 PM
I recently got an Emmylou harris Lp at my salvation army , cover is trashed , but the Vinyl is VG it's "pieces of the sky" ( i think from 1975) Holy great albums !! James burton on guitar , i was blown away ............just ordered her latest album on LP from her record company for $14 they sell the Vinyl with a cd copy & alos send you 320K mp3's right after you order it , can't wait to get the album :music:

New as well as old Emmylou is all good!

ScramMan2
01-07-2009, 12:32 PM
I just last night ordered the vinyl version of one of Shooter's albums, 'The Wolf'. It'll be the first time I've listened to Shooter. How much of Waylon's spirit is in his music?


Shooter is awesome, not like Waylon at all. He was kind of paranoid.

ScramMan2
01-07-2009, 12:36 PM
Yeh SoundStageDirect is a great place to get Vinyl , ordered from them before the holidays , cool place .
Funny i alos ordered that Emmylou cd with Knopfler as well , i have not received the cd yet , but from the Mp3's they sent me , what a really beautiful album they put out , i'm gonna have to get the Live dvd/cd set they did next .

I've got Mark and Emmylou, in heavy rotation in my Jeep. I have one of the factory 10 CD changers in the back.

I'll throw the DVD into my home changer just to hear them talking about the tour they did.

Brett a
01-07-2009, 01:17 PM
Excellent score!
It's funny, I just started getting into country music-so far only interested in 40's,50's and 60's- and Buck Owens is one name I came to very quickly. And I've always loved Ray Charles' music. Modern Sounds is still on my "get" list. It's surprisingly hard to find.
Rock on!!
:thmbsp:


Ugh. Modern 'country' music. Ugh.

I think you're missing the point that "Modern Sounds In Country and Western Music" is actually the name of a Ray Charles record.

wordherder62
01-07-2009, 04:43 PM
I think it's just always well loved that makes it harder to stumble across! This is one of those records that sold in the hundreds of thousands and, yet, it is also one that folks likely just flat wore it out. I can imagine this one getting a lot of play on somebody's old mono system as the surface noise does give away some "loving" on this copy.

You'll find lots of country from the 1950s--Patsy Cline, Jim Reeves, Hank Williams, the list goes on and on. Into the early '60s you still had lots of good stuff that matched those eras. Later you have to weed through a lot of overproduced and pretty mindless stuff but you'll still find some jewels. Just listen to lots of it and it'll emerge for you.

Richard

Brett a
01-07-2009, 04:54 PM
You'll find lots of country from the 1950s--Patsy Cline, Jim Reeves, Hank Williams, the list goes on and on. Into the early '60s you still had lots of good stuff that matched those eras. Later you have to weed through a lot of overproduced and pretty mindless stuff but you'll still find some jewels. Just listen to lots of it and it'll emerge for you.

Richard

That's really describes my experience so far. It started with Willie Nelson and with Dwight Yoakum, then immediately back to Hank Williams, and now working my way back up to Dwight (via Buck Owens of course,) while working back even further before Hank.

FWIW, I found an excellent collection of real old Country/Hillbilly classics at Amazon. Hope it's ok to link: ( I have no affiliation to the seller BTW) My review is under the name "Arise Therefore"-the title of my favorite Will Oldham record.
http://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Country-Hall-Fame-Legends/dp/B00042YLDG/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

wilkes85
01-07-2009, 05:17 PM
I'm actually a fan of newer country music. But nothing beats the classic country! i love Lefty Frizzell.

chadnliz
01-07-2009, 05:54 PM
Like many others I dont like Pop country radio stuff, every now and then a good one comes along like Jamie Johnson but other than that its pretty people singing ugly peoples songs. Almost nobody writes there own stuff so its really just a fashion show and it reminds me of Nascar, the same 40 people doing the same thing week in week out with commercials......and the audience is mostly those from the south.

Flatwounds
01-07-2009, 06:45 PM
Nice , i'll have to get that one next , just got "ELITE HOTEL" on cd at the store , another great album .
Albert lee did a guitar Clinic at a store i worked at in the 90's , that guy is just a monster player & such a really nice guy .

I have a grainy DVD of Rockpile in the studio (probably aired on BBC) and Albert Lee is overdubbing a solo that is ridiculous b-bender madness!

Cheers!

BrocLuno
01-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Check out "Luxury Liner" from the album of the same name. Albert Lee kills it!:thmbsp:

Luxury Liner is an all time killer LP :music:

Some radio stations (OK most) are formula oriented because their corporate owners don't want to pay the royalties for anything they have not negotiated.

If you want to try some alternate country including local studio sessions, try KRSH.com if you can stream? If you want to try real hard core alternative country with a twist, try KPIG.com :music:

circlesky73
01-07-2009, 07:52 PM
If you want to try real hard core alternative country with a twist, try KPIG.com :music:

Michael Nesmith is/was collaborating with them, streaming their station on his VR3D.com website.

circlesky73
01-07-2009, 07:54 PM
I just last night ordered the vinyl version of one of Shooter's albums, 'The Wolf'. It'll be the first time I've listened to Shooter. How much of Waylon's spirit is in his music?

I have Put The 'O' and I really like his song "Fourth of July", which is on the album. I don't care much for Waylon- a few songs here and there, like "Love of the Common People". But I like and respect what he stood for, just not the music so much. Sorrys.

wordherder62
01-07-2009, 08:38 PM
I understand Waylon and his reaction to things. I'm not a huge fan, but I love some of the stuff he did and you've got to just marvel at the man's place in music history--giving up the airplane seat and going from there.

But, no matter what, the lyrics of "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys" (written by a husband-wife couple named Bruce) are something I can always marvel at. Title is goofy but the lyrics are golden:

Cowboys like smoky old pool rooms and clear mountain mornings;
Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night.

Other lines in there are just as good but there is something so clearly American about those lyrics and it catches perfectly so much of our love for and hatred of (never said we in America were simple) that Marlboro Man image. And, for me, giving us that song and those lyrics and that expression of something caught up in the American experience is just golden.

I can almost forgive (almost) him the "Dukes of Hazzard" theme song for just that. Fortunately, he did some other good work that can make it possible to (almost) forget his involvement with that ...

And, besides, he was Johnny Cash's roommate for awhile ...

Richard

davidk5
01-09-2009, 01:27 AM
Well UPS dropped off my emmylou "all i intended to be" with the free cd , i have not put on the vinyl yet , cd is great ! it's a 2- lp set which is cool , high quality cover & the vinyls i super quality 180 gram !! can't wait to spin it over the weekend :music: