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djronc
10-07-2002, 09:38 AM
This was posted in the vintage section by mistake. Any help would be appreciated.



Hi guys,

I have a pair of these in my sights are they worth $65.00. I know the bluebook is $47.00 but do any of you have experience with them. The cabinets look to be in good shape.

djronc

ProAc_Fan
10-07-2002, 12:41 PM
From what I've learned Sansui really made rather lousy speakers. I know some of the large woofered ones fetch a decent buck on the bay but I certainly wouldn't put them in a class with vintage Pioneers, JBL's, Klipsch or any of the more revered vintage speakers.

Mike

Grumpy
10-07-2002, 12:50 PM
Dang man


You are harsh ! There is nuthing wrong with the SP line of speakers. I had a pair of Sp2500 that I liked allot. They do what they were designed to do and they do it very well. If you are planning on keeping these then yes thats a fair price as long as the cabinets and the fret work on the grills are intact. If you plan on selling then I would prolly pass. Most impotantly as with any vintage speaker make sure you listen to them if possible. I think it was Buzz who had a pair of the 1500's and he couldnt find replacement tweeters Anywhere for them.

Grump

bully
10-07-2002, 01:20 PM
Yikes, I'm straddling Mike's comment and Grumpy's!
I was never impressed by the overall tonality of the Sansui and Kenwood speaker systems. Or, rather, with their ability to do real justice to the bottom octave or two below about 50 Hz.
They ARE very efficient speaker systems, and will flat-out crank loud. They handled power pretty well once receivers began to grow in size, too.
And, in truth, most LPs did not cover much under about 60 Hz, anyway. So, for regular listening and parties, well they were really OK.
Cabinetry could vary with Sansui models, I've noticed. IIRC, the SP-1500 & 2500 had a good, solid cabinet??
That alone would be worth the price of admission.
I will say I liked the Pioneer CS speaker systems better than the Kenwoods and Sansuis.

pete

Tonto Yoder
10-07-2002, 01:53 PM
FWIW, someone gave me a pair of SP-200 speakers some time ago. I thought they were awful--very muddy sound;actually, I had heard them playing before I was given them and thought the surrounds must be rotted, but that wasn't the case once I unscrewed the lattice.

I DID sell them on eBay for ~$100. Link to model I had:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1380830034

DaveM
10-07-2002, 04:17 PM
I have a pair of SP-2000's and a pair of SP-200's from thrift shops. The SP-2000's actually sound very nice when listening to vinyl. They sould absolutely horrid when listening to the radio. I've never tried them with a CD or any other sources.

The SP-200's I haven't really listened to as I just replaced the woofers & crossovers with a set from eBay. The original woofers were blown when I got them and some of the caps in the crossover had exploded.

Dave

Kamakiri
10-07-2002, 04:22 PM
I've got a pair of SP-1200s that I'd give away if you'd pay shipping.

The SP-2500 is a very nice speaker IMO. Used them for a long time and thought they sounded pretty darn good.

Grumpy
10-07-2002, 04:37 PM
I never said it was the end all of speakers but hey what do you want for 65.00. No I would not compare it to a JBL either. A better comparison would be say an older CV speaker. Plays lound and sounds good !

DaveM
10-07-2002, 04:38 PM
Kama, how big are those things and what do they sould like? My dad needs a set of speakers. He bought these little plastic Sony things to go with the MCS receiver a gave him a few years ago.

Dave

BeatleFred
10-07-2002, 09:08 PM
$65 for a pair of nice vintage speakers--> A very good buy would be Ebay #1386038749.

Don McR
10-07-2002, 09:12 PM
Some Sansui speakers were JBL's. Sansui was the Japanese distrubutor for JBL. Here's one that appears to consist of JBL D130's and 075's:

http://free.happynet.co.jp/Hi-Fi-Do/new_db/photo//02-12871-11924.jpg

Raycomics
10-10-2002, 10:39 PM
BUY THEM QUICK B4 SOMEONE ELSE DOES!!!!!

I have a pair.

No, they are not the top of the line, to die for, set of speakers.

But, what you ARE getting for $32.50 a Speaker is:

A 3-Way, 5 Speaker Box with a 12" Woof, a high and low Mid, and 2 Dome Tweets, in a Real Wood Box!

Overall, not a bad sounding Speaker that, IMHO, is very underated!

I believe that their Sound will pleasantly surprise you.

Lastly, go into any CC or BB with the Specs that I have listed above, and see how much Speaker $65 will buy.

Just my Very Un-Audiophile $.02.

Kamakiri
10-10-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by DaveM
Kama, how big are those things and what do they sould like? My dad needs a set of speakers. He bought these little plastic Sony things to go with the MCS receiver a gave him a few years ago.

Dave

I'll have to get dimensions for you.....sound isn't bad as long as he's not a big bass fan.....

Thespeakerdude8
12-31-2005, 12:33 AM
The bass on these is very deep when placed properly in your room, they go down to a usefull 35hz and lower with some roll-off. I ran a tone generator down to about 28hz before I had some serious roll off, and 15 hz was audible and you could definatly feel it. My marantz sp-1200's boast a reponce down to 25 hz which is a complete lie , especially compared to these. Marantz kinda cut it slim on this model, as they suck compared to the Sansui's. As far as muddy sound you'r tweeters were probably blown, I blew mine in a mishap a while back and they sound like crud now ( ALL FOUR ROASTED! :( ) by unplugging my amp from source by accident while it was on.. Anyways, these speakers sound amazing when their working properly. Try puzzlecoating the cones of the woofers when you get them, it dampens some of the higher 100-200hz bass that sticks out there and really increases the lower end responce.

kfa888
12-31-2005, 12:45 AM
Try puzzlecoating the cones of the woofers when you get them, it dampens some of the higher 100-200hz bass that sticks out there and really increases the lower end responce.

I'm assuming this means to crosshatch glue or something on the cone? :scratch2:

Thespeakerdude8
01-15-2006, 11:46 AM
puzzlecoating is ModPodge, its an elmers glue like substance you use to coat puzzles once you have put them together and want to display them. It comes in matte and gloss, both work fine. You basically put a layer on the cones and it dries, hardening them and protecting them. even if you aren't too careful putting it on, it dries smooth and without brush strokes. I used a paint brush to apply it on my woofers.

heres an article about it: http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design/tweeks.html

fishintvguy
08-29-2006, 08:18 PM
:scratch2: Hmmm,I was reading some of these replies about Sansui speakers and I must say since 1970 when I got my first pair overseas in the Pacific while in the Military they have never disapointed me.I have SP 1001,SP1500,SP2000 and SP3000 models still in service today.The wood cabinets are so solid and the sound quality has never deteriorated all this time.It is always up to the listener,the room acoustics and the Amplifier settings controlling what they do so set them up properly and sit back and enjoy. :music:

cubdog
08-29-2006, 10:12 PM
:thmbsp: Enjoy them!

cubdog

Doc Brown
02-16-2007, 08:03 PM
[QUOTE=Thespeakerdude8]The bass on these is very deep when placed properly in your room, they go down to a usefull 35hz and lower with some roll-off. I ran a tone generator down to about 28hz before I had some serious roll off, and 15 hz was audible and you could definatly feel it.

Just found a pair of sp-2002 at the thrift. This is NOT a joke. I wondered why the chair was shaking. Sub woofer territory. This model is tri or bi ampable.4 sets of inputs. A real serious cross over.

Any one else have these?

gearhound
02-16-2007, 08:35 PM
Many Sansui speakers, sourced their drivers from Coral.
Sansui and Coral speakers tend to be hit.....or miss.
Coral drivers, by themselves, are outstanding and very efficient.
Don't ask me how a decent audio engineer could blow a design so bad, with good drivers??

Steve

Doc Brown
02-16-2007, 08:56 PM
I see. The woofers are the very impressive. All alnico drivers I would assume? 3way, 5 drivers.

It feels as though would do pretty well as subwoofers. 50W max though.

cubdog
02-16-2007, 09:11 PM
I recieved a pair of SP-3500 last week compliments of Brainsmasher. Thanks Brian! I have always enjoyed the early Sansui speakers and these are no exception. While they do not have really low dynamic bass I love the midrange. Saxophones sound very nice in particular. Very warm and fluid.

cubdog

pmsummer
02-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Being as this is a four year old thread, I wonder if he ever got them?

I grabbed a pair of SP-300s this week (12" woof, 7" horn meow, 2 3" horn tweets) but I haven't plugged 'em in yet.

Monday, I'll crack 'em open to list the caps (and order new Daytons), and give 'em a shout. I've read some good things about these from folks who have actually listened to them, so we'll see. If they work out well, they'll go to my daughter and son-in-law to replace his Cerwin Vegas Re 30s. I think the horns will make him a happy camper.

cubdog
02-16-2007, 09:29 PM
I've never been sure why Sansui speakers get such a bad rap. They have their faults as do all speakers but compared to the Pioneer CS series, for example, I find them to be far superior. If a sub is added to augment the low end they are very nice. I admit these have a sentimental value to me but I would still like them regardless.

cubdog

Doc Brown
02-16-2007, 09:52 PM
I've been listening to horns recently and thought these would sound great as bass bins with some horns and tweeters.

tomt
02-17-2007, 07:45 PM
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e61019615&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlist3.auctions%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den
3188

cubdog
02-17-2007, 07:50 PM
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e61019615&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlist3.auctions%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den
3188
That lost something in the translation.

cubdog

MarSanZ
02-17-2007, 08:40 PM
Anyone have any information on Bozak B 310 speakers? Are they a good investment? :scratch2:
Thanks.

cubdog
02-17-2007, 11:31 PM
Anyone have any information on Bozak B 310 speakers? Are they a good investment? :scratch2:
Thanks.
Also lost in translation.

cubdog

celticguitar
02-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Hi all My SP1500 's sound just great but they are a vintage sound. My brother inlaw who listens to almost all rap crap says they are to dark for his taste. I repeat HIS taste. He listens to all all bass and high freq. no mid range but I like the middle to sound nice with a splash of bass and High end and I listen almost entirely to Vinyl( old vinyl to boot):thmbsp: and he CD. His stuff when I listen is way to bright for MY taste . After all as someone said it's what sounds good to you.

Thespeakerdude8
04-21-2007, 03:56 PM
I finally got a full set of tweeters on ebay! I also replaced the midranges with a mint set from the same buyer.


By the way, while the woofer magnets are not alnico, the midranges are. The woofers have 6 inch diameter ceramic magnets ( which is partially why the darned things weigh so much!!). They also sport nice 2 inch voice coils, large spiders, and thick but lightweight cones.

The earlier SP-2000 and SP-200 used alnico magnets on their woofers. The SP-200's cones were white, and I assume only 10-15 watts. The SP-2000s look identicle to the SP-1500 woofers, only with alnico mags on the back. I assume the SP-2000's are 20 watts just like the SP-1500, but I am not sure. Would be interesting to see if they are more efficient.

Rod G-6000
04-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Sensitivity for the SP-1500's = 98db
SP-2000's = 102db
SP-3000's = 105db

It doesn't take much juice to light any of them up.

Thespeakerdude8
09-07-2007, 10:45 PM
No kidding, I'm running mine off an old onkyo that has a pair of STK075 outputs, good for 15 watts RMS a side. They will definatly "light up" and then some :eek:


They have suprisingly good bass in my room, better than my neighbors HD440's. The bass is more like what it would be at a real concert, deep, present, and peaky where it should be ( 45-60hz region).

Carpo420
02-14-2008, 03:43 PM
I just got a pair of sp-200 for $40 at goodwill (they are starting to look up prices before selling good stuff) I am loving Suis, and I am comparing them to the sp-2500x set I have. and they fall short, but sound good. Look almost identical, but the alnico magnets or not, the 2500x is crisper and more present. Maybe that giant 5" bass port ain't helpin either!!! Still beats out a lot of others.

sealy
02-14-2008, 10:28 PM
My SP-100 woofers have heavy Alnico magnets. The upper bass seems to "fatten" the sound, and this is the area where the designers seem to have missed the boat. Cut down a few db at about 250 hz, I think the sound is quite good. I especially like the sound of the horn tweeter. Not harsh at all. It's all relative folks. Remember these are 35 or 40-year-old speakers.

For $5, I'm not complaining.

dgwojo
02-15-2008, 06:39 AM
I had a pair of SP-1500's and was pretty impressed with their sound. The only start-up issue was the 4 tweeters, I had to buy a dozen to find 4 good ones, I sold the pair for $150 so I was happy with the return, Dave.

:worthless

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/dgwojo/Sansui_SP1500_02.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/dgwojo/Sansui_SP1500_01.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/dgwojo/Sansui_SP1500_03.jpg