botrytis
06-23-2004, 01:05 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/23/beastie_boy_cd_virus/
I am not crazy about this group, but to install a vrus so you can't rip this CD and then you cannot do any copying anymore. This is from Cloumbia records - what a crock of *@($.
Dave
Dave918
06-23-2004, 01:28 PM
Yes, it is a crock of *@($ and should be illegal. Folks should start suing Columbia for lost time and damages for having to cleanup the mess they created! No I don't agree with suing everyone and anyone for everything, but this is ludicrous.
-Dave
Correction...it's CAPITOL-EMI, not Columbia-Sony. Anyway, it IS a big stinking pile of BS!
Canucklehead
06-23-2004, 02:59 PM
Last summer I bought Radiohead's Hail to the Thief (EMI) and was very upset. They put a copy control on it, when I played it on my computer at work, it installed and would only play on it's own player which compressed it to 96kbps. I tried to play it on my bedroom Teac mini system and it would skip like crazy. I sent a few irrate emails to EMI with no responses whatsoever. It's a major crock "THEY" can get away with crap like that. BTW, the U.S. CD didn't have the copy control and the Canadian version did.
Andyman
06-23-2004, 03:01 PM
Looks like someone is going to get hit with a HUGE lawsuit. The article seems to imply this will happen.
I can't understand why the corporate legal minds would allow such a risky behavior at Capitol???
Has there every been any sort of defense for a non specific booby trap? I think not.
botrytis
06-23-2004, 03:25 PM
I think the attitude is: if you play on your PC, you are doing it to copy the CD and not just to listen to it. The head of the music industry paints things with very broad strokes andthey are idiots for it.
Dave
Andyman
06-23-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by botrytis
I think the attitude is: if you play on your PC, you are doing it to copy the CD and not just to listen to it.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I always thought one WAS allowed to make copies for personal/archival use.
Doesn't this fly in the face of that too???
Should be interesting.......
gonzothegreat
06-23-2004, 04:24 PM
I'm far from an expert on the matter but the concept of "fair use" has long been a thorny issue in copyright law. The law always seems to be one or two steps behind technology. Remember the Betamax case? If the case had gone the other way, timeshifting TV shows might be a thing of the past (corny joke I know but it had to be said).
Content providers IMHO overstate their losses when it comes to losses due to "illegal copying". That and ALL (yes ALL) forms of copy protection are ultimately defeated and only hinder the legal users.
If the media companies had their way, they would ultimately want CDs/tapes/videos/wax cylinders removed from private hands and replaced with an online media jukebox hooked up to your credit card. Pay for play. It could happen when bandwidth gets cheap enough. No more lost or scratched CDs. Its the next step.
grumpy
06-23-2004, 04:34 PM
All this BS only reinforces what I have been saying all along.
CeeDee's Bad. Vinyl very very good !!!!!!!!
botrytis
06-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Well, as far as fair use is concerned, the DMCA did away with that, basically. The RIAA has been saying we have no right to copy because of this law and that includes vinyl, CD's, DVD's, etc.
I just think we (I mean the public) needs to push our weight around and say enough is enough.
They have money and want more - it is all about greed!!
Dave