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Is there some particular reason why almost every stunningly expensive turntable is also horrifyingly ugly?

Who would want that? Playing a record with two arms simultaneously? How good could that sound? :scratch2:

Two arms gives one the option to mount two different cartridges with different characteristics. You would not have both arms playing at the same time.

Thats really nice stuff.. thanks for sharing! i asked the woman if i could have something. i got the "NO" lol

Is there some particular reason why almost every stunningly expensive turntable is also horrifyingly ugly?

Money can't buy taste.. I gotta admit, nothing there did anything for me either. I just can't understand how running a thick heavey as hell platter with a little thin rubber band can't induce flutter, or even variations in speed, and how having so many rubber bands can't impart other issues....

I'll stick with my DD quartz lock...

There are some nice high end tables out there I think look fantastic, but to me, none on this page I would be so proud to show off.

I like it, a lot...so much for accounting for tastes. Especially the T-20. Looks good to me and I bet would sound really good, too.

Regarding design, one shouldn't base conclusions regarding things like flutter and functionality on visual appearance...conclusions about flutter should be based on hard, measurable statistical data, not supposition.

:scratch2: 62 hundered bucks aye. :no:

Who would want that? Playing a record with two arms simultaneously? How good could that sound? :scratch2:

That's the "new" stereo. Errrr.... no wait, if he's using stereo cartridges.... that's the new Quadraphonic. Gotta set those tonearms down at EXACTLY the same time.:rolleyes:

It's probably all top class stuff which outperforms my TT in every aspect, but for some reason it doesn't stirr my senses. Thnx for the link though.

I like the VPI. I've always thought they had very no-nonsense looking, classy tables.

Is there some particular reason why almost every stunningly expensive turntable is also horrifyingly ugly?

Those aren't terribly expensive at all. Priced any SME tts lately? (and they're not seriously high-end...)
Here's one now... http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=31917

Is there some particular reason why almost every stunningly expensive turntable is also horrifyingly ugly?

I guess it depends on how you define "ugly".

I like the way my LP12 looks-"Plain Jane". :D :music:

I believe none of you guys know the real meaning of the word UGLY.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=142964&d=1237848653

Shure TTs is not seriously high-end? Heck, compared to 95% of what is out there, a Garrard Zero 100SC is high end.

Good gawd what 1930's National Geographic did you find that in?????


Interesting tables but I think I'll just stick with my poor old Pro-Ject RM-5

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/UJ78/Shrine%20January%202008/Shrine2008JanTTnightshot006ww.jpg

And pay off my house with the money those tables cost. Us poor folk gots to be careful how we spend our check.

I thought that they looked pretty cool.

Shure TTs is not seriously high-end? Heck, compared to 95% of what is out there, a Garrard Zero 100SC is high end.

When I think of high-end tt's I think of things like the Avid turntables, Thorens Reference MK I, Rockport Technologies System III Sirius; stuff like that. Oh, and that $160,000 dollar turntable system Stereophile reviewed a year or two ago.

I mean, I know folks with SME tts. Actual people (albeit fairly wealthy ones).

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/turntablelust/

The only reason to buy a turntable is for how it SOUNDS.....not how it LOOKS.

The only reason to buy a turntable is for how it SOUNDS.....not how it LOOKS.

+1, but it sure is nice when a table looks as good as it sounds!
Jim

Butt ugly, however, Multiple tone arms is great. I am thinking three. One for stereo LPs and 45s, one for mono LPs and one for 78s.

mike

Who would want that? Playing a record with two arms simultaneously? How good could that sound? :scratch2:

You would have a groovy echo sound?

I wouldn't be able to find a place in my house to support that kind of weight from the turntable, except maybe my filthy basement.

Besides, I don't have near that much on me. Give me any Technics SL-1200 any day.

Pooh! I've lusted after the Denon for a while. Now that it's sold, I'll have to find something else to lust after....

Is there some particular reason why almost every stunningly expensive turntable is also horrifyingly ugly?

I wouldn't call that ugly, but turntables that look like coastal defense emplacements are always a little off-putting to me. ;)

I thought that they looked pretty cool.

I'm with Clyde. I think they look great.

As cool as your table is Mark..and it is..at the price of the others they want more than an MDF platter.

Anyways, give me a nice Thorens 160 anyday with a good Shure Cartridge.

Some nice craftmanship on some of those. Im sure they are all well deep in to the diminishing returns curve however.

edd

Some nice craftmanship on some of those. Im sure they are all well deep in to the diminishing returns curve however.

edd

My feelings on the high end in general. Yes, I have heard a lot of it that sounded better than what I have (though I like to think I have some nice, carefully chosen vintage equipment)...but very soon after getting something better than what I have, the price SKYROCKETS. I mean, goes right into the stratosphere, and it's just not that important to me to get that last little bit, but have to spend my whole AIG bonus on it. (just kidding about that last part!).

My feelings on the high end in general. Yes, I have heard a lot of it that sounded better than what I have (though I like to think I have some nice, carefully chosen vintage equipment)...but very soon after getting something better than what I have, the price SKYROCKETS. I mean, goes right into the stratosphere, and it's just not that important to me to get that last little bit, but have to spend my whole AIG bonus on it. (just kidding about that last part!).

Also, just because something costs alot to make, ie high tollerences, super thick platters, etc doesnt mean it sounds better. you could spend 100 000 machining a giant titanium platter to 1 millionth of an inch, could still sound awefull.

edd

but have to spend my whole AIG bonus on it.

That........ was....... FUNNY!!!:thmbsp:

The only reason to buy a turntable is for how it SOUNDS.....not how it LOOKS.

I can't say I agree. Perhaps in a system that is set up for critical listening but I have a living room/kitchen system that was choosen to compliment the living rooms design and helps to give the room it's musical flair visually. The quality of the equipment just so happens to produce excellent sound but it was quite a search to find something that sounded good and fit the look of the room.

Some of us married guys have wives to keep happy. :tears:

My second system is all about the sound though. That is why I have an Oracle Paris turntable that I hate the looks of but I just can't push myself to sell it because of it's clever design, build quality, and overachieving sound!

when i was a child i could receive a radio signal with crystal kit my father gave to me, i soon learn an antique phonograph could produce sounds from a record simply by moving the record by hand,

those things amazed me