View Full Version : George Harrison - All Things Must Pass 30th Ann. Edition - Opinions?


JonL
06-15-2009, 08:28 PM
I've recently acquired a copy of the original All Things Must Pass in decent shape, and I've fallen in love with this album. I've read that George Harrison himself was in the process of overseeing the remastering and reissuing of his solo catalog (catalogue? He is British, isn't he...) before he passed away. His remastered All Things Must Pass is available on vinyl. I haven't been able to find any reliable reviews of this release. From what I have read, it seems that he only remastered it, and did not remix it even though he claims to have been less than thrilled with Phil Spector's wall-of-sound production. I've also read that it is a "digital remaster," though I'm not sure exactly what that means. Anyone here have a copy and an opinion on it?

Maicobmw
06-15-2009, 08:35 PM
I have always enjoyed this album, but have also been disappointed by the sound of some of the cuts, such as Wah-Wah, which to me is practically unlistenable. On the other hand some of it sounds pretty darn good, including the jams... :scratch2:

I have not heard of a re-issue.

Urchinn
06-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Look for the Dr. Ebbetts version (its a bootleg) which was remastered from vinyl. The sound is fairly amazing...

Old_Tech
06-15-2009, 09:10 PM
To my knowledge there was never a reissue of All Things Must Pass. I liked the album but it was tiring to listen to at times. Yes Wah Wah was too much.

JonL
06-15-2009, 09:22 PM
There is a reissue. It has a color cover (per Harrison's desire) in place of the B&W original. It is on the EMI label. The 30th anniversary CD was issued in 2001, I'm not sure if the associated vinyl release came out simultaneously or some time later.

I like "Wah-Wah!"

marc mc
06-15-2009, 09:26 PM
I have 2 copies on vinyl of this amazing album.

marc mc

catman
06-15-2009, 09:48 PM
G'day all, yes I have the 30th anniversary album on CD which is great. Yes the mix on 'Wah Wah' is rather muddy but it's still a great track regardless!

I particularly love the album because the songs reflected George's spiritual beliefs beautifully and somewhat rather echo my own a little. Great examples are 'Isn't It A Pity' and 'Beware Of Darkness'. A truly fabulous collection. Regards, Felix aka catman.

Sam Cogley
06-15-2009, 09:50 PM
I'd love to hear the remastered vinyl. I have my dad's original copy, and it sounds great to my ears. I love the Jam. :music:

thilaseen
06-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I'll see your 2 copies on vinyl and raise you the remastered CD. I also consider this to be an amazing record and have no trouble listening to the whole thing from go to whoa. :thmbsp:

JonL
06-15-2009, 09:55 PM
The remastered vinyl goes for around $50 - $75 as far as I've seen. A bit steep of an investment when I suspect that it may be inferior to the original due to digital processing. I wish someone else was already the guinea pig!

PaulParrot
06-15-2009, 10:51 PM
Stay far far away from the remastered version (the one with the colorized cover). Jon Astley was the guy in charge of remastering and he even won an award for it, but the results are yecchy.

The original vinyl is easy enough to buy on eBay, millions were pressed. That is the way to fly. If you're really hard core, the UK or German pressings are even better.

The first CD pressings of this title were atrocious, with so much NoNoise processing it was just wretched. I believe they later remastered it with somewhat better results, but I never heard it myself. That one would still have the grey cover. Then lastly there was the colorized remastered version. But who cares. The original vinyl is it.

JonL
06-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Thanks Paul. My vinyl copy is "good enough," so I'll stick with it.

RandyInDHS
06-16-2009, 12:05 AM
Wah Wah is greatness... as is every cut...

RJ

AnalogDigit
06-16-2009, 12:33 AM
I liked the CD reissue. Very good, I also liked Wah Wah.

davidk5
06-16-2009, 01:21 AM
I too only have the Re-issue cd myself which sounds decent , never owned it on Vinyl .
Did just get hist S/t on vinyl (love comes to everyone) which is among my favorites by George , that Vinyl sounds really good .

danj
06-16-2009, 02:55 AM
One of the greatest albums of all time.

End of argument.

Lastplace
06-16-2009, 06:54 AM
Just picked up a near mint copy, $1. may have to take it for a spin.:scratch2:

Old_Tech
06-16-2009, 07:53 AM
Stay far far away from the remastered version (the one with the colorized cover). Jon Astley was the guy in charge of remastering and he even won an award for it, but the results are yecchy.

The original vinyl is easy enough to buy on eBay, millions were pressed. That is the way to fly. If you're really hard core, the UK or German pressings are even better.

The first CD pressings of this title were atrocious, with so much NoNoise processing it was just wretched. I believe they later remastered it with somewhat better results, but I never heard it myself. That one would still have the grey cover. Then lastly there was the colorized remastered version. But who cares. The original vinyl is it.

The original was probably as good as it gets. Nice LP although muddy and depressing sounding. George later wished he had trimmed it to its best songs and dropped the "B" side cuts from it. Reviews were pretty much in agreement as was John Lennon at the time. :boring:

mhardy6647
06-16-2009, 08:34 AM
Jon Astley... Pete Townshend's (former) brother-in-law...

I have a copy of the original LP I found fairly recently at the dump. Looks to be in good shape, but I have yet to listen to any of it. My expectations are guarded. :-)

audiojones
06-16-2009, 08:51 AM
I've had the old original for years and I rarely listen to it because the mix is so horrible. I find it very harsh, thin and midrangey. I like the music on it, just hate the "low fi" sound. Unless the original tapes were revisited and seriously re - eq'd I wouldn't bother.

miner
06-16-2009, 09:46 AM
I have the 30th Anniv. LP and love it. Not sonically perfect, but enjoyable to listen to. George was the 'first' Beatle to have a Top 10 Hit after they broke up.

JonL
06-16-2009, 10:05 AM
I have the 30th Anniv. LP and love it. Not sonically perfect, but enjoyable to listen to. George was the 'first' Beatle to have a Top 10 Hit after they broke up.

Miner, I think you are the first poster that actually has the reissue I've been wondering about! :banana: Have you ever been able to compare it to the original? Do you know if it is claimed to be a "digital remaster?" (Not that I know what a "digital remaster" really is....)

grooveman
06-16-2009, 10:22 AM
Own both the original US and the 30th Anniv. versions. The original sounds a bit harsh/thin compared to the 30th, but I'm betting the original 1970 UK Apple pressing is the way to go. I haven't heard one before, but that's usually the case with UK Beatles and Solo pressings of their LPs that I've experienced.

bbb777
06-16-2009, 10:46 AM
i have the original apple pressing. i must say i originally hated 'wah wah' when i first heard it, but it has really grown on me over the years. there is something raw about the song that fits with the "muddy-ness" when played on record.

JonL
06-16-2009, 10:54 AM
My pressing is (I believe) a US Apple pressing. It has the orange Apple label on the discs. I bought it used, and the box and sleeves are pretty rough, the album has obviously been played a lot but it has also apparently been played with care on decent equipment and kept clean. There are a few visible scars on the vinyl, but it plays through with barely any audible pops or defects. I'd describe the sound more as "distant," rather than muddy. The vocals and lead instrumentation always seem a little too far back in the mix. It isn't "bad" at all, but I wonder if the remaster is better.

beans
06-16-2009, 11:58 AM
There is a reissue. It has a color cover (per Harrison's desire) in place of the B&W original. It is on the EMI label. The 30th anniversary CD was issued in 2001, I'm not sure if the associated vinyl release came out simultaneously or some time later.

I like "Wah-Wah!"

http://www.soundstagedirect.com/george-harrison-all-things-must-pass-vinyl-lp.shtml

mhardy6647
06-16-2009, 12:07 PM
The version of Wah-Wah on The Concert for Bangladesh sounds pretty good (at least in my memory; it's probably been 25 years, or more, since I've listened to it).

PaulParrot
06-16-2009, 12:09 PM
Astley was very heavy-handed on the controls, processing the ever-loving heck out of the tapes. His main technique was to heavily de-noise everything and then try to put the music back in with EQ. He made a lot of "questionable" EQ choices.

I have not heard the remastered (colorized cover) LPs but I bought the remastered CDs the day they came out and sold the package on eBay shortly thereafter.

The new one was absolutely not remixed at all, it was re-EQ'd and reprocessed. The overall sound is inherent in the recordings and the mixes.

icenine
06-16-2009, 12:29 PM
I have both the 30th anniversary remastered version CD and the factory made Apple reel to reel....the cd is very good. Wah Wah is a great song just a bit "layered" (over produced) in spots lol...just too many things going on at the same time but still great song

pipcell
06-16-2009, 06:38 PM
I have the reissued vinyl release from 2001 (i'm in the UK). It sounds pretty darn good, although having never heard any other copy of this album i couldn't comment on its comparison.