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theebadone
07-09-2009, 11:40 PM
Does anyone know anything about these monsters,I recently picked up four of these speakers very right. the only thing i can find on them is they were built in 1965 by the seeburg jukebox company, they have 2 15 inch drivers made by utah, and a altec sectoral horn number 811. I have then hooked up to my mcintosh and they sound great. I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on these and what they might be worth. Oh and they weigh 172 pounds a piece. Here are some pics.

Captain Scary
07-09-2009, 11:49 PM
Cool,But the horn goes on top...........

Saint Johnny
07-09-2009, 11:52 PM
GordonW will probably have an opinion on these I suspect. :scratch2:

theebadone
07-10-2009, 06:46 AM
If i had more room the horn would be on top

Captain Scary
07-10-2009, 07:24 AM
HaHA,Don't worry.It will get worse........

mhardy6647
07-10-2009, 08:31 AM
The horns are Altec 811(B). They are (well, IMNSHO) very nice MR/HF horns. What kind of drivers do they have on them.

Looks to me as though you've gotten yourself a score (as folks seem to be saying around here). If those were cheap enough, you might want to consider investing in "real" Altec woofers for them :-)

Tom Brennan
07-10-2009, 09:43 AM
Cool,But the horn goes on top...........


Actually when placed with the long axis vertically the 811 horn is capable of throwing a huge soundstage (depending on the room and placement of course). Don't ask me me why, I suppose it shouldn't. But it can.

theebadone
07-10-2009, 12:26 PM
These have the altec 811 horn as u noticed and 2 15 inch utah drivers. they sound great just like they are, great highs, nothin missin in the midsection, and the bass is effortless hooked up to the mac. all speakers are in good shape. I have 4 of these. hmmmm maybe a surround system, lmao The model number is dds1

OldSkool
07-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Good ole DDS1s. (http://jukebox-junkyard.com/db1/00018/jukebox-junkyard.com/_uimages/SS160DD1.jpg) My dad had a set of those growing up, Ive always wanted a pair for myself.

pete1729
07-10-2009, 01:16 PM
if they're like mine they have 802 16ohm drivers on the horns. nice find, really.

GordonW
07-10-2009, 01:27 PM
GordonW will probably have an opinion on these I suspect. :scratch2:

Oh hell yes. :D

Of course, I take 'em and update the cabinets with woofers that I build myself (based on a JBL pro driver frame), a slightly different horn (but you could keep the 811 flare, I would think), a Selenium D220Ti horn driver, a supertweeter, and my own crossover design. They're pure fun, once I'm done with 'em! :banana: The folks that came to the last AK Southern Fest here can attest to that!

But, that's not to say that they suck, stock! They're still quite fun to listen to as they came!

Regards,
Gordon.

theebadone
07-10-2009, 03:22 PM
Youre right, im havin fun with these monsters jus tas they came. that big 811 horn will hurt yer ears, lol when i put kenny g in the cd deck my dog starts howling, she has never done that and i have tested lots of speakers lol. they sound great to me as they came. but i will be on the lookout for better drivers, and a crossover to calm that horn down a bit. thanks for all the replies

Zilch
07-10-2009, 03:41 PM
Youre right, im havin fun with these monsters jus tas they came. that big 811 horn will hurt yer ears, lol when i put kenny g in the cd deck my dog starts howling, she has never done that and i have tested lots of speakers lol. they sound great to me as they came. but i will be on the lookout for better drivers, and a crossover to calm that horn down a bit. thanks for all the repliesWe've been through this scenario several times now. Here's a Skywave-Rider thread that may be of interest:

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18913

GordonW
07-10-2009, 03:57 PM
Hey Zilch... didn't you guys determine that the Selenium D220 (or D210) worked pretty well on the Altec 811 horn (at least, a lot more HF extension)? Of course, it'd have to be the bolt-on version (as opposed to the screw-on pipe-thread type that's normally seen in the Selenium drivers)...

Regards,
Gordon.

Zilch
07-10-2009, 04:17 PM
Hey Zilch... didn't you guys determine that the Selenium D220 (or D210) worked pretty well on the Altec 811 horn (at least, a lot more HF extension)?Yes, but D220ti's not gonna play down to 800 Hz, or wherever below 1.8 kHz those are crossed. We don't know what 802s are in the stock units, or what crossover, but the first priority has to be be taming the Altec mids, which is easily accomplished with an add-on HF comp filter like Altec's own 30904/23.

I think even with the Utahs, that better bass can be achieved as well, by running one member of the pair in "helper" mode.... :yes:

audiofred
07-10-2009, 04:22 PM
Might be an earshplitenloudenboomer sound.

Fred

toddalin
07-10-2009, 04:44 PM
My wife's father was in the jukebox business and I remember visiting them in Denver in 1980 and he had the same pair with the gold 811s in the family room (with the horns at the tops).

theebadone
07-10-2009, 09:39 PM
Thanks for all of the info, i just took the back off of the other two ssd1s and there are separate filters,, someone has added the clip on wire inserts. I guess ill do some swappin, dang, i just wish these things werent so heavy

theebadone
07-10-2009, 09:49 PM
I will post some pics of the insides tomorrow, especially the crossovers. again, thanks for all the info

theebadone
07-11-2009, 03:08 AM
The ones i have, have the horns on the side, lol could they be different models

BwanaJim
07-11-2009, 03:38 AM
EIGHT 15" woofers...........DAMN SON, how big is your listening room?

theebadone
07-11-2009, 06:00 PM
my listenin room is 30 ft x 25 ft, they would make 1 heck of a surround system, I wouldnt even have to add a sub. lmao

theebadone
07-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Sorry, i was gonna post these earlier, but havent had a chance. Im old and slow, heres the pics of the clip ons someone has added. I swapped the crossovers on the speakers and they seem to be helpin in taming the highs and mids.

dgwojo
07-16-2009, 06:09 AM
Looks like a 16 ohm 806 driver on the horn, very nice, I love those!! :D

Zilch
07-16-2009, 11:57 AM
I'm not seeing what you are calling "clip ons" in the pics; they look pretty much like the stock crossovers, the difference being whatever that is in the lower right of the second pic.

Any idea what that is?

[I have no opinion regarding 806A's ;) ]

theebadone
07-17-2009, 12:26 AM
Sorry zilch, thats the add on i was talking about, someone sawed out for the speaker wire clip ons. I will get another pic of the back. Another question, i read that when utah made the drivers for altec, they were custom built just for this particular model. Is there any truth to that? Or are these just the run of the mill utah drivers? I can pull one out and take a pic if you wanna see them.

Zilch
07-17-2009, 12:38 AM
Sorry zilch, thats the add on i was talking about, someone sawed out for the speaker wire clip ons. I will get another pic of the back. Another question, i read that when utah made the drivers for altec, they were custom built just for this particular model. Is there any truth to that? Or are these just the run of the mill utah drivers? I can pull one out and take a pic if you wanna see them.They don't look "run of the mill" to me, but Gordon would know for sure. I'm just not familiar with Utahs....

theebadone
07-17-2009, 12:46 AM
Here are the wire terminals someone added. If its factory it looks like an afterrthought. Thanks for the help. Tryin to find reliable info on these things is sketchy at best.

Zilch
07-17-2009, 12:55 AM
That connection label to the right is of particular interest. Could you post a readable pic of it, please?

theebadone
07-17-2009, 01:12 AM
No problem i think the other speaker has a more legible one. gimme a few minutes ill have it up

theebadone
07-17-2009, 01:23 AM
hope this is readable

Zilch
07-17-2009, 01:44 AM
Interestingly, "With all other speakers disconnected," they connected these 8-Ohm satellites to the 16-Ohm taps. I wonder if that meant with the internal speakers, if there were any, also disconnected.

And 18 Ga wire up to 60 feet.... :)

KentTeffeteller
07-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Seeburg introduced these in 1963 with the introduction of the LPC-1 jukebox. The LPC-1 and the rest of the 1960's Seeburg Line had Disco versions available and Seeburg offered this speaker system as part of the Disco system. Seeburg also had records available for dancing with the system and decor options as well. The speaker compliment you mention is original to this unit. Anyway, they sound superb. Some history for you!

theebadone
07-17-2009, 11:13 AM
I have no clue on that one zilch, but thanks everyone, for the info

Just Lucky
05-19-2010, 06:15 PM
I think I am going to pick up a pair of these. Are they keepers?
Using them with the stock crossovers and drivers would acoustic foam at reflection points tame the high frequencies somewhat? I'm not terribly handy anymore and mods would be something I'd have to arrange to be done at an additional expense. i haven't owned many horn speakers and am aware they aren't everyone's cup of tea.