View Full Version : Thorens TD-180 in the house!


jleon92f
09-09-2009, 07:22 PM
I have the TD-180 here and need to see if it actually works.

More, tomorrow.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

BULLWINKLE
09-10-2009, 03:44 AM
Let us know how it sounds..Love my Thorens.:worthless

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 06:06 AM
Let us know how it sounds..Love my Thorens.:worthless

There were pics and they removed the posting yesterday.

Thanks, I will try and find some.
John.:music::D

Divotdog
09-10-2009, 06:37 AM
:thmbsp: I'm looking forward to seeing it John.

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 07:37 AM
:thmbsp: I'm looking forward to seeing it John.

Thanks Mel.

I will have it up next for repair.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 02:19 PM
Power supply, is it a 16v AC adapter? So that means the 120v AC wall current is brought down to 16v AC by the adapter.

I am use to DC adapters, 12v Etc.

Trying to get the TD-180 spinning.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

rito25
09-10-2009, 02:38 PM
The original NES used a AC to AC adapter. Its rare but I've seen them.

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 04:26 PM
The original NES used a AC to AC adapter. Its rare but I've seen them.

Thanks, I picked up a bell transformer from the hardware, 120v AC to 16v AC.

I am using my Variac to test the motor 1st. No sense in buying a power supply if the motor is shot.

Soldering an adapter as we speak.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Divotdog
09-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Interesting table John, what do you think of that arm as compared to the earlier arms?

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 04:59 PM
Interesting table John, what do you think of that arm as compared to the earlier arms?

Hard to say, the motor looks bad on this one. The light shines on the cell but not motor action? The arm looks nice, kind of chinsy.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Mr. Lin
09-10-2009, 05:41 PM
I'm very interested in hearing how this one performs, because we don't hear much about them on AK. Any idea what the tonearm is made of? How about the approximate year this is from?

jleon92f
09-10-2009, 06:09 PM
I'm very interested in hearing how this one performs, because we don't hear much about them on AK. Any idea what the tonearm is made of? How about the approximate year this is from?

It won't be performing any time soon. Motor is Kaputz. The rest is nice. I think it is from 1996?

Not 100% on that.

Arm is some kind of dark metal.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Mr. Lin
09-10-2009, 06:22 PM
It won't be performing any time soon. Motor is Kaputz. The rest is nice. I think it is from 1996?

Not 100% on that.

Arm is some kind of dark metal.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Ah, dark metal, most coveted of all materials for tonearms... :D

Fred Sanford
09-10-2009, 10:24 PM
I *think* (I'll check) that this is a common problem on this model, and my friend has at least a half-dozen of these around while he looks for after-market motors that may be compatible. I'll see what he's found out, if anything.

je

Mr. Lin
09-11-2009, 12:56 AM
I *think* (I'll check) that this is a common problem on this model, and my friend has at least a half-dozen of these around while he looks for after-market motors that may be compatible. I'll see what he's found out, if anything.

je

And I think (but I'm not sure) that this is where the reputation of Thorens started to go downhill. However, I wonder if in some cases, like this model, that's just because of a common problem like motor failure, but the turntable actually might have some potential. Or maybe not. I'd really like to know, but like he said, it won't be up and running any time soon. :boring:

lini
09-11-2009, 01:00 AM
I'm very interested in hearing how this one performs, because we don't hear much about them on AK. Any idea what the tonearm is made of? How about the approximate year this is from?

Oh, well, the TD180 was introduced in the early 90s as low budget model. And while it wasn't really a bad table as such, I'd nevertheless rather recommend people intested in buying a Thorens to consider at least a TD104/105, 114/115 or 280 instead.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

2DualsNotEnough
09-11-2009, 01:21 AM
I had a TD-180 for a while,and even after changing out the belt,it still sounded a little slow to me,but the strobe had it reading right on,so probably just my ears.I wasnt impressed at all with the build quality,and the cueing lever looked and felt like a piece of clothes hanger.
But with the Stanton 500 it came with,it sounded pretty good.Better than it looked,thats for sure.
Jimmy

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 05:23 AM
I *think* (I'll check) that this is a common problem on this model, and my friend has at least a half-dozen of these around while he looks for after-market motors that may be compatible. I'll see what he's found out, if anything.

je

Thank you, The motor replacement is fairly easy.:scratch2:

Thanks,
John.:music::D

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 05:27 AM
And I think (but I'm not sure) that this is where the reputation of Thorens started to go downhill. However, I wonder if in some cases, like this model, that's just because of a common problem like motor failure, but the turntable actually might have some potential. Or maybe not. I'd really like to know, but like he said, it won't be up and running any time soon. :boring:

The rest of the TD-180 looks OK. Nice big bearing and the rest of the system works OK. Moved by hand. I wouldn't mind bringing this one back from the Dead!

Arm works smooth, nice balance.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

ehoove
09-11-2009, 05:50 AM
Good luck with your endevour!
Regards,
Jim

Fred Sanford
09-11-2009, 06:03 AM
Thank you, The motor replacement is fairly easy.:scratch2:

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Let me know if you find a motor type that is applicable. I checked my notes, he has one of these working in his office, and 4-6 of them sitting in storage waiting for motors.

je

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 06:43 AM
Let me know if you find a motor type that is applicable. I checked my notes, he has one of these working in his office, and 4-6 of them sitting in storage waiting for motors.

je

Hi, Do you have any specs on the motor? It seems to be controlled by the PCB inside. I am wondering if the motor can be repaired? Probably better to replace with a more powerful model. A schematic would be nice?

Thanks again for checking,

I have a TD-166 Mk in my main system. bought it new back in the 80's

Thanks,
John.:music::D

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 06:46 AM
Good luck with your endevour!
Regards,
Jim

Thanks for the good wishes, the repairs keep me out of trouble.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

reneborg
09-11-2009, 09:13 AM
You may be able to find some of the info you need at the analog depot (http://www.theanalogdept.com/). Look at the Thorens Dept. Also try the vinyl engine (http://www.vinylengine.com/library/thorens.shtml)

KentTeffeteller
09-11-2009, 10:08 AM
A few notes concerning this Thorens TD 180. It is not a true Thorens built machine, it's actually OEM made by Dual. It's a slightly restyled CS series from recent times. The motor can also likely be found as a Dual spare part.

Andrei
09-11-2009, 10:35 AM
A few notes concerning this Thorens TD 180. It is not a true Thorens built machine.

Unfortunately, there is an entire Thorens series of TTs that are not TRUE Thorens (from the quality point of view):
Thorens Mini, Thorens 158, Thorens TD 170, Thorens TD 180, Thorens TD 190.
Too bad they were put out under the Thorens name...

lini
09-11-2009, 10:38 AM
Kent: Sorry, but no, the TD180 isn't based on a Dual design. However, the TD170 and 190 of the new Thorens company are - as well as the TD158, TD185, TD240, Mini and TD235.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 12:12 PM
Hi, The motor has a Hall Effect type of system. It uses the top blades that the light sensor passes through?

I am wondering if I can just make it a 33 rpm TT Only??

Another project.

Thanks for all the Help!

John.:music::D

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 12:24 PM
OK, I am still wondering about the power supply, is it 16v AC or DC?

It says the motor is DC? Does anyone know what kind of Power supply is used.

I applied 16v AC to the unit to get the lamp to light up?

Thanks,
John.:music::D

KentTeffeteller
09-11-2009, 02:08 PM
lini,

Thanks for enlightening me. It looked like a Dual and maybe influenced by them. Wonder who made it for Thorens or if it really was Thorens made?

jleon92f
09-11-2009, 02:38 PM
You may be able to find some of the info you need at the analog depot (http://www.theanalogdept.com/). Look at the Thorens Dept. Also try the vinyl engine (http://www.vinylengine.com/library/thorens.shtml)

Thanks, they don't have anything on this Model? Hard to find information.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

jleon92f
09-17-2009, 06:04 PM
I just got a call from Thorens about this TT.

There is a similar motor available for $99 from them?

I have to call them back and get some more info.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Divotdog
09-17-2009, 06:44 PM
I just got a call from Thorens about this TT.

There is a similar motor available for $99 from them?

I have to call them back and get some more info.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Let us know what you find out. :yes:

Mr. Lin
09-17-2009, 09:56 PM
I just got a call from Thorens about this TT.

There is a similar motor available for $99 from them?

I have to call them back and get some more info.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

Did Thorens just randomly call you, or were they returning your call? :D

jleon92f
09-18-2009, 06:24 AM
Did Thorens just randomly call you, or were they returning your call? :D

I went to the website and filled out a tech questionair and asked if they had any parts for the TD-180.

A very quick response.

I have to call them back today. The motor price is not that bad.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

thesnuke
10-24-2010, 01:51 PM
I recently acquired a new TD180 on craigslist for $50. The only downside is the adapter was missing, so I headed to goodwill to find one. There was one I thought would work, so I took it home ($.99). Removed the bottom cover, removed the adapter housing and it plugged right in. Flipped it back over and crossed my fingers.... It worked! I'm very happy with it, despite reading all the bad things people have to say about this particular model.

henkuk
10-25-2010, 07:04 AM
I had one till 2001 and it was ok.
A bit lifeless and seemed a bit slow in speed but reasonably ok.
Certainly no worse then some of the BPC being made by Dual towards the end of the 90's.

No subchassis made placement an issue to think about.

jleon92f
10-25-2010, 08:03 AM
I never got around to fixing that one yet. I am moving to a bigger storage in the next few weeks. It should come up again.:scratch2:

Thanks,
John.:music::D

jleon92f
11-21-2011, 05:45 AM
UPDATE: The motor was good after further examination of the pSB. Works nice. There is a thread about the repair.

Thanks,
John.:music::D