View Full Version : Track U use to show off Dynamics?
hobie1dog 09-24-2009, 09:23 PM Did a search, but wanted to know what song/LP/CD do you use if someone wants to hear the dynamic range of your speakers/system? The one with the most slam in your chest, rim shot cracking like a shotgun, make the cats run to the far end of the house, etc.
There are a fair amount of threads about overall demo CD's but this one is just about dynamics.
Jailtime 09-24-2009, 09:57 PM Rush-Snakes and Arrows on vinyl. Especially the song "The Main Monkey Business." I like to spin Dire Straits-Communique too.
Trower 09-24-2009, 10:22 PM Only Vinyl for me:smoke:
Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon (30th Anniversary Pressing)
Tchaikovsky Symphony #5 on Angel 36141
The White Stripes: Icky Thump
Beck: Modern Guilt
vinyldavid 09-24-2009, 10:51 PM Dire Straits: Brothers in Arms
Emerson, Lake and Palmer: Brain Salad Surgery
Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells
SkyLounger 09-24-2009, 10:57 PM Donald Fagen - The Nightfly, or
Phil's (Collins) I cannot believe it's true
Flim & the BB's - Tricycle. It was made to showcase what a CD can do. Uses a whole lot of the dynamic range of a CD.
Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe - Themes: Sound/Second Attention/Soul Warrior (track 1 from self titled disc) Starts out with lots of highs, small cymbals, etc. and then Bruford jumps in full force on drums. Great wake up.
John in MA 09-24-2009, 11:20 PM Got a weird one for you. "Margaret/Tiger Rug" from Skip Spence's "Oar." A great deal of thwack and thump in that one.
Arkay 09-24-2009, 11:34 PM Sheffield demonstration disks, made by direct-to-metal mastering at 45 rpm, cutting out all the tape recording, etc... stages in between. It may be partly a marketing gimmick, but they put warnings on the LPs about how the extreme dynamics recorded on them may damage speakers, etc... but marketing gimmick or not, the recordings ARE dynamic!
Of course, the infamous Telarc 1812 with the cannon shot can impress.
"Round Up" --the Western music recordings with Erich Kunzel. LP or CD, as even the CD has a lot of dynamics preserved.
(Plus some of the ones already mentioned.)
vinyldavid 09-24-2009, 11:41 PM Sheffield demonstration disks, made by direct-to-metal mastering at 45 rpm, cutting out all the tape recording, etc... stages in between. It may be partly a marketing gimmick, but they put warnings on the LPs about how the extreme dynamics recorded on them may damage speakers, etc... but marketing gimmick or not, the recordings ARE dynamic!
Of course, the infamous Telarc 1812 with the cannon shot can impress.
"Round Up" --the Western music recordings with Erich Kunzel. LP or CD, as even the CD has a lot of dynamics preserved.
(Plus some of the ones already mentioned.)
That reminds me...
Still Harry After All These Years-Harry James (Direct to Disc)
Growing Up In Hollywood Town-Lincoln Mayorga and Amanda McBroom (Direct to Disc)
I use the DG 1976 1812 overture, myself.
Also,
Also Sprach Zarathustra (Boult/LSO/1966)
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony (Karajan/Berlin/1962/7.5ips R2R tape!!)
vegabass25 09-24-2009, 11:48 PM Pink floyd- Time. Man those clocks are loud!
Hertzz 09-25-2009, 03:18 PM Telarc "Star Tracks" Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra.
Supertramp's Fool's Overture from Even In the Quietest Moments. It's a super high quality pressing on virgin vinyl. It's also a damn fine record.:yes:
snowdownunder 09-25-2009, 06:27 PM Donald Fagen - The Nightfly,
If you're talking about a track, I.G.Y off the above LP (vinyl) is hard to beat.
As far as LP's go "Andrew Powell and the philharmonia orchestra play the best of the Alan Parsons project", "The Divison Bell" and "DSOTM" are goodies.
IXLR8 09-26-2009, 10:24 AM If you're talking about a track, I.G.Y off the above LP (vinyl) is hard to beat.
As far as LP's go "Andrew Powell and the philharmonia orchestra play the best of the Alan Parsons project", "The Divison Bell" and "DSOTM" are goodies.
Those are excellent selections. The Andrew Powell album has a sound that can really show off your set-up and have used it for such. Besides it is fun to listen to.
jetblack 09-26-2009, 12:38 PM You're looking for dynamics?
Tcahikovsky ~ 1812 Overture :music:
Blood, Sweat & Tears ~ God Bless This Child (the horns in the middle of the song)
I have to second Telarc's "Star Tracks" CD. My favorite is Back to the Future, track 2 I think, but there are some other great cuts on that CD, too.
Ron Pilgrim 09-28-2009, 03:40 AM Three songs come to mind; Dan Fogelberg-Leader of the Band, Def Leppard-gods of War and Supertramp-School
hobie1dog 09-28-2009, 06:04 AM Three songs come to mind; Dan Fogelberg-Leader of the Band, Def Leppard-gods of War and Supertramp-School
I'm a fan of Dan Fogelberg, but that song has no dynamic changes in it at all...you've stumped me on that one.
timofred 09-28-2009, 06:14 AM Jennifer Warnes, A Singer must Die - Famous Blue Raincoat - LP.
TNRabbit 09-28-2009, 06:32 AM You're looking for dynamics?
Tcahikovsky ~ 1812 Overture :music:
I don't think you'll find a MORE dynamic recording. Get the Telarc SACD. Just don't turn it up loud at the beginning or you'll be blowing up stuff~
Grainger49 09-28-2009, 06:53 AM I too used to use Flim And The BBs Tricycle cut Tricycle. It has a jump about 12 seconds in. Then I bought the CD of the Kodo album and now play Odaiko. It starts with the Japanese flute that wanders to the right, he turns around (you hear he is facing away from the mike) and back facing the front, then BOOM! The Taiko drum is struck. Makes you jump out of your seat.
I took it into one room at VSAC 2003 with horn speakers larger than Altec VOTs and had to warn the owner to turn it down a couple of times. At the drum strike he knew what kind of music it was and was a fan! What a hoot!
Reading the other posts, God Bless The Child is good, but on the same album, Blues Part Two is better. And VinlyDavid, Trower, are those whole albums? The OP asked for tracks.
I sold audio gear when the Sheffield LPs were new. I can't listen to any of them now except I Got The Music In Me.
TNRabbit 09-28-2009, 07:07 AM The problem with Tricycle is it's incredibly difficult to find now....
Grainger49 09-28-2009, 08:11 AM Maybe but try to find Taiko drum music. I have looked for the Heartbeat album on vinyl for 2 years and can't find it.
But, is Tricycle out of print? Does the label still produce?
TNRabbit 09-28-2009, 09:17 AM Maybe but try to find Taiko drum music. I have looked for the Heartbeat album on vinyl for 2 years and can't find it.
But, is Tricycle out of print? Does the label still produce?
Tricycle by Flim & The BB's (Audio CD - Oct 25, 1990)
33 Used & new from $6.66
This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer.
4.8 out of 5 stars (9)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31NMBM3SYQL._SS500_.jpg
You can get used Redbook CDs from $6.00 but new ones are at least $50 and there are NO SACDs of this CD. (I was looking for a SACD)
similost 09-28-2009, 09:51 AM Here's the two different songs I use.. LP of course..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Pi4wC8Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4dXl1nhY4g
OH.. this is another favorite LP I have that really shines too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdXVWLTTa_s&feature=related
33&athird 09-28-2009, 01:47 PM Here's the two different songs I use.. LP of course..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Pi4wC8Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4dXl1nhY4g
Hey, I have those, both on 12" singles with a remix b side...pretty great stuff.
I really love to use Iron Maiden's "To Tame A Land From Piece of mind if you have a good guality vinyl copy of just about any iron maiden, you'll never buy the cd release.
Stevie Ray Vaughan's first album (With double trouble) Texas flood is great as well (any song).
Freddie King albums are simply amazing. I have a original press of Burglar, The song Come On(lets the good times roll) is fantastic.
Really, about a quarter my albums work for dynamics (as I know them)... But hose are defintely top picks.
clydeselsor 09-28-2009, 01:52 PM "Mars - Bringer Of War" from Gustav Holst's "The Planets".
Hertzz 09-28-2009, 02:21 PM Sheffield Lab's "Thelma Houston and Pressure Cooker" is an excellent recording that I still listen to occasionally. Especially the track "Pressure Cooker" The drums are outstanding.
Cool_Manchu 09-28-2009, 02:43 PM I too am on the Dark Side of the Moon (30th) vinyl for showing off dynamics. Another song that I think really shows off how much bass your speakers can handle more than any other song is Outsider by Chumbawamba. Most speakers cannot even come close to handling the bass drop at the beginning of that song.
rchiwawa 09-29-2009, 02:20 AM Words fail to describe (succinctly, anyway) how much I appreciate this thread. Keep'em coming :)
131east23 09-29-2009, 02:38 AM Circa late 50's early 60's, "Provocative Percussion" and "Persuasive Percussion" by Enoch Light and his Orchestra, I think these were on Command, not sure. My dad had them...
Ron Pilgrim 09-29-2009, 03:52 AM I'm a fan of Dan Fogelberg, but that song has no dynamic changes in it at all...you've stumped me on that one.
Yeah, I don't know, you might be right about the lack of dynamics, all I know is if I want to show off my system, I put Leader if the Band on, crank it, and it sounds impressive.
Grainger49 09-29-2009, 04:53 AM Circa late 50's early 60's, "Provocative Percussion" and "Persuasive Percussion" by Enoch Light and his Orchestra, I think these were on Command, not sure. My dad had them...
Sounds like You Get More Bounce With Curtis Counce! or Music for Bang Boom and Baroom (I probably got that one wrong). I do remember Persuasive Percussion.
hobie1dog 09-29-2009, 06:12 AM I too am on the Dark Side of the Moon (30th) vinyl for showing off dynamics. Another song that I think really shows off how much bass your speakers can handle more than any other song is Outsider by Chumbawamba. Most speakers cannot even come close to handling the bass drop at the beginning of that song.
I googled up that song and I'd like to know where the bass drop is, as I didn't hear anything at all for the first 2 minutes of the song with any bass in it ( now I was listening to it through the Dell PC speakers here at work):thumbsdn:
cwall99 09-29-2009, 06:23 AM Tcahikovsky ~ 1812 Overture :music:
I have this on vinyl on a Telarc pressing that I bought in 1980. The cannon shots need so much room on the disk that it looks like there's about 1/16 of an inch between the grooves at that point. You can clearly see the initial crack of the cannon in the vinyl.
I once took the disk to a pre-cursor of the modern big box stores (Highland Appliance up in Saginaw, MI, in case you're wondering), and was listening to it on a pair of good-sized JBLs. The sales man kept turning it up, and I kept warning him that when those cannons go off, you may not want it up so loud.
He got this crazed look in his eye, and turned the volume up to about the 2:00 position (presuming "noon" was 5 out of 10). The first cannon shot went okay (though you could hear some flapping in the woofer), but about the time it got to the 4th or 5th cannon shot, the guy turned it up even louder, and then.... Whump!!!!!! and silence. I quickly gathered my LP and left it to him to explain to his manager what he'd done. The guy looked white as a sheet.
cwall99 09-29-2009, 06:25 AM Another one I like is Dixie Chicken by Little Feat off their Waiting for Columbus album. There's a great piano solo in it, and, toward the end, there's a cymbal that gets snapped, and it'll make you jump out of your shorts if you're not ready for it (and you're listening to it on good system).
hobie1dog 09-29-2009, 06:29 AM Circa late 50's early 60's, "Provocative Percussion" and "Persuasive Percussion" by Enoch Light and his Orchestra, I think these were on Command, not sure. My dad had them...
I'm very familiar with all the old Command recordings as I collect them. I started out listening to all the old Doc Severinsen records he did through the 60's on that label. Good suggestions for sure.
One of my first picks out of my collection is the CD titled, " Trittico " by Frederick Fennell and the Cleveland Symphonic Winds on the Reference Recordings Label. The first song starts off and ends with a huge climax involving a large Orchestral drum tuned to 27hz or so and it sounds like the percussionist hauls off and swings the mallet like a pro baseball player when he whaps the hell out the drum. This is my version of HUGE dynamics:music:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/hobie1dog/Audio/33870871.jpg
Bottoming subwoofers out is what this song is all about. Bookshelf and mini-monitors need not apply here, as very few systems can play this at levels that Frederick felt when he was on the podium conducting it.
TNRabbit 09-29-2009, 06:38 AM Another one I like is Dixie Chicken by Little Feat off their Waiting for Columbus album. There's a great piano solo in it, and, toward the end, there's a cymbal that gets snapped, and it'll make you jump out of your shorts if you're not ready for it (and you're listening to it on good system).
Wow; I haven't heard Dixie Chicken in YEARS~ Think I'll got look it up....
Grainger49 09-29-2009, 07:09 AM I googled up that song and I'd like to know where the bass drop is, as I didn't hear anything at all for the first 2 minutes of the song with any bass in it ( now I was listening to it through the Dell PC speakers here at work):thumbsdn:
The "heartbeat" is low and was used for speaker demo when this LP was released. Every stereo shop in the US had a copy. Your PC doesn't have a chance unless you have an audio or HT sub on it.
hobie1dog 09-29-2009, 08:45 AM The "heartbeat" is low and was used for speaker demo when this LP was released. Every stereo shop in the US had a copy. Your PC doesn't have a chance unless you have an audio or HT sub on it.
I was talking about his reference to " Outsider by Chumbawamba "
I know about the heartbeat on DSOTM
similost 09-29-2009, 08:52 AM If you're just looking to bottom out subs and test the dynamics of your bass... check out Chemical Brothers Bass Test.. it will give your subs a run for their money.. They run some pretty low freq sweeps through the song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12z1NI4C4Vk
hobie1dog 09-29-2009, 08:57 AM If you're just looking to bottom out subs and test the dynamics of your bass... check out Chemical Brothers Bass Test.. it will give your subs a run for their money.. They run some pretty low freq sweeps through the song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12z1NI4C4Vk
Bass is always good.:D I'm also looking for upper dynamics too. One of the other tracks I use is off the Telarc Sampler Disc, it has the Phantom of the Opera track that starts off with a strong lightning bolt and thunder before the pipe organ starts..on a system capable of high SPL it has the ability to startle guests in your house.
You can get used Redbook CDs from $6.00 but new ones are at least $50 and there are NO SACDs of this CD. (I was looking for a SACD)
I still keep my eyes open just in case. I had the SACD on order once from a place that listed it as in stock and after 2 months of chasing them they finally admitted that they didn't have it. :(
RT Fan 09-29-2009, 11:45 AM I came across this one quite by accident. We were listening to the Frank Sinatra Reprise Collection before dinner the other night and was cranking up "I've Got You Under My Skin" (Live) and when the full horn section hits the break, I watched the needles on my McIntosh Amp jump. Sounded like the orchestra was in my Living room.
Another favorite is the live version of Calvary Cross by Richard Thompson on Guitar, Vocal and its subsequent release on Live In Concert 1975. Following a spidery arabesque guitar intro, a signal drum strike by Dave mattacks announces the rest of the band joining in, massive chords by Dave Pegg on bass and RT doing some fine sustaining of notes on the guitar will test the limits of any system. Crank it up, guarenteed to drive the squirrels from the attic.
Cool_Manchu 09-29-2009, 12:16 PM I googled up that song and I'd like to know where the bass drop is, as I didn't hear anything at all for the first 2 minutes of the song with any bass in it ( now I was listening to it through the Dell PC speakers here at work):thumbsdn:
If you Google the song, it doesn't have the bass drop for some reason. Its right at the beginning and repeats a couple of times... Send me a PM with your personal email and I will make a high quality rip off the CD for you (once I get moved in the next month) and send it your way. Or you can look for it in the dollar bin at your local used record shop. :)
jetblack 09-29-2009, 04:05 PM I have this on vinyl on a Telarc pressing that I bought in 1980. The cannon shots need so much room on the disk that it looks like there's about 1/16 of an inch between the grooves at that point. You can clearly see the initial crack of the cannon in the vinyl.
I once took the disk to a pre-cursor of the modern big box stores (Highland Appliance up in Saginaw, MI, in case you're wondering), and was listening to it on a pair of good-sized JBLs. The sales man kept turning it up, and I kept warning him that when those cannons go off, you may not want it up so loud.
He got this crazed look in his eye, and turned the volume up to about the 2:00 position (presuming "noon" was 5 out of 10). The first cannon shot went okay (though you could hear some flapping in the woofer), but about the time it got to the 4th or 5th cannon shot, the guy turned it up even louder, and then.... Whump!!!!!! and silence. I quickly gathered my LP and left it to him to explain to his manager what he'd done. The guy looked white as a sheet.
Yeah, that will do it. If you ain't watchin' your P's & Q's (or at least watchin' the volume knob), you run the risk of silence from your audio system when listening to 1812. Just another learning experience in the adventure of life.
hobie1dog 09-29-2009, 08:11 PM If you Google the song, it doesn't have the bass drop for some reason. Its right at the beginning and repeats a couple of times... Send me a PM with your personal email and I will make a high quality rip off the CD for you (once I get moved in the next month) and send it your way. Or you can look for it in the dollar bin at your local used record shop. :)
Alright, I went home and brought the song up on http://www.last.fm/music/Chumbawamba/_/Outsider pretty cool site as you get to hear the whole song. With my full range speakers and subwoofer on, I heard/felt the bass drop.:banana:
Cool_Manchu 09-30-2009, 12:09 AM Alright, I went home and brought the song up on http://www.last.fm/music/Chumbawamba/_/Outsider pretty cool site as you get to hear the whole song. With my full range speakers and subwoofer on, I heard/felt the bass drop.:banana:
So what did you think of it? Am I off base (no pun intended) or do those drops really push the limits of your system?
hobie1dog 09-30-2009, 06:36 AM So what did you think of it? Am I off base (no pun intended) or do those drops really push the limits of your system?
I'd rate it about a 7, because of it's short duration. But kinda mediocre on dynamics. I was looking for dynamic transient CD's/LP's
Designdweeb 09-30-2009, 07:15 AM "Mars - Bringer Of War" from Gustav Holst's "The Planets".
+1
& 1812
& Rites of Spring
hobie1dog 09-30-2009, 07:22 AM "Mars - Bringer Of War" from Gustav Holst's "The Planets".
Which label is this on? CD or LP?
Designdweeb 09-30-2009, 07:44 AM Which label is this on? CD or LP?Probably every major and minor label has a recording on either media.
It's the source of the soundtrack for "Star Wars."
rebos123 09-30-2009, 08:48 AM Probably every major and minor label has a recording on either media.
It's the source of the soundtrack for "Star Wars."
Also the source for "Gladiator" soundtrack.
Another good dynamic recording is Bach's Prelude and Fugue in e minor, and NIN's "corona radiata" off of the "Slip" album. There is a free download available at the NIN site.
Cool_Manchu 09-30-2009, 11:19 AM I'd rate it about a 7, because of it's short duration. But kinda mediocre on dynamics. I was looking for dynamic transient CD's/LP's
Let me think on it and see if I can find some good dynamic transient stuff for ya! As for the bass drop, with the right speakers it will make bowels move.
Another song that has great bass is NIN cover of Get Down Make Love. It's not transient by any means, but has much more going on than Outsider.
Grainger49 09-30-2009, 12:12 PM Let me think on it and see if I can find some good dynamic transient stuff for ya! As for the bass drop, with the right speakers it will make bowels move.
Another song that has great bass is NIN cover of Get Down Make Love. It's not transient by any means, but has much more going on than Outsider.
This might be better off line in PMs. It isn't helping the thread's original purpose.
Whether or not you hear a certain thing in a posted album/cut isn't the object here.
kneeOhFight 09-30-2009, 12:18 PM King Crimson-Three of a Perfect Pair- Adrian Belew (vocals, too) and Robert Fripp on guitars, Tony Levin on electric bass and Chapman Stick, and the peerless Bill Bruford on drumkit....dissonant, chaotic beauty, sonic delight!:yes:
Cool_Manchu 09-30-2009, 12:41 PM This might be better off line in PMs. It isn't helping the thread's original purpose.
Whether or not you hear a certain thing in a posted album/cut isn't the object here.
This is the original post on this thread:
"Did a search, but wanted to know what song/LP/CD do you use if someone wants to hear the dynamic range of your speakers/system? The one with the most slam in your chest, rim shot cracking like a shotgun, make the cats run to the far end of the house, etc.
There are a fair amount of threads about overall demo CD's but this one is just about dynamics. "
Our discussion directly ties into that. I am VERY sorry if you feel differently. This is an open forum and I for one would love to engage and read what others have to say. I GREATLY apologize if you do not feel like we are discussing music that you personally care for. I would never be so rude as to make a comment like yours.
similost 09-30-2009, 12:58 PM I agree... I don't see how it's a sideways skid... we're talking about music with dynamics, and what it is that we hear that makes those dynamics stand out... It can easily open someone else's eyes to something they didn't realize..
this whole thread is about opinion as to what we each like, and what we each here.. and each of these opinions would have a different meaning on a different system too... I see no reason it can't be discussed in the open. I'm interested in his ideas too...
hobie1dog 09-30-2009, 01:58 PM It's always interesting to hear about another deep bass CD, but there are other threads indeed for that stuff, the car audio forums have the really deep stuff that 90% of us haven't even heard about anyway.
To get a grasp on what I'm talking about, listen to the several I've listed like the "Trittico" or the "Phantom of the Opera" tracks where you have lightning bolt cracks, huge orchestral drum whacks, etc.
Another one for you guys that I got recently turned onto is the Gordon Goodwin Big Band CD's...one of the songs is Sing,Sang, Sung which is a spin-off of the Benny Goodman song and it has some of the best Big Band dynamics I've heard...beats the old Harry James Direct-to Disc LP by a mile. and the musicianship is light years ahead as well. Got tuned into this one with a new set of Klipsch Jubilee speakers ( this converted me to a horn speaker guy that I am now), I've sold my Maneplanar Tympani's, and the incredibly inefficient Mirage M1 speakers since hearing this disc on those speakers.
I just started this thread to try and dig up any hidden tracks that may be out there besides the old standards( Power and the Majesty, 1812, Trittico, etc)
babeba67 09-30-2009, 03:14 PM The 2 CD's that convinced me to buy my first pair of Klipsch in the showroom back in 1985 were:
1. Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" (The song So Far Away)
2. James Newton Howard & Friends by Sheffield Labs. James Newton Howard utilizes acoustic instruments and synthesizers to create an unprecedented soundscape with breath-taking rhythms. This album is a statement for rock instrumental music for synthesizers, drums and percussion. Favorite tracks of mine are "E-minor Shuffle" and "Slippin' Away" particularly for a snappy snare drum and keyboards.
I have tested hundreds of speakers with these two discs!
similost 09-30-2009, 03:24 PM I hear so many people that just rave and rave over Brother in Arms... I have it.. yes, it's a great LP, but I just don't understand why everyone raves about it so much? I think there is a lot better stuff out there.. as far as substance and engineering... so can anyone clue me in to why B.I.A. is so well reguarded?
Cool_Manchu 09-30-2009, 03:32 PM I hear so many people that just rave and rave over Brother in Arms... I have it.. yes, it's a great LP, but I just don't understand why everyone raves about it so much? I think there is a lot better stuff out there.. as far as substance and engineering... so can anyone clue me in to why B.I.A. is so well reguarded?
I picked up a nice clean copy a couple of weeks ago just because everyone here raves about it so much. I know the album, know the band, but I too wonder what's so fantastic about it?
hobie1dog 09-30-2009, 08:28 PM I picked up a nice clean copy a couple of weeks ago just because everyone here raves about it so much. I know the album, know the band, but I too wonder what's so fantastic about it?
having not heard it, does it have that much dynamic slam that I should go out and buy it? I'm not a fan of their music
having not heard it, does it have that much dynamic slam that I should go out and buy it? I'm not a fan of their music
Life's too short to listen to music you don't like just because it's recorded well.
hobie1dog 09-30-2009, 09:19 PM Life's too short to listen to music you don't like just because it's recorded well.
very wise words ole sage of hi fi.:thmbsp:
Cool_Manchu 09-30-2009, 11:02 PM Another song that I like to listen to on a new set of speakers or a new amp is Billy Thorpe - Children of the Sun.
hatrack71 09-30-2009, 11:47 PM Royksopp- Junior
Donald Fagen- Morph the Cat
Steely Dan- Two Against Nature
Donovan Frankenreiter- Move by Yourself
Animal Liberation Orchestra- Roses and Clover
Five Fingers of Funk- Slap Me Five
These are just a few albums I love to listen to and show off the dynamics of my systems with.:thmbsp:
E. Power Biggs - Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor
Only a very good speaker can properly reproduce the low pedal notes and incredible dynamics of a great pipe organ. Lesser speakers need not apply.
Stravinsky - Firebird Suite
Sometimes I know that "hit" is coming and it still startles me.
RSL'67 10-01-2009, 12:54 PM Among some of the others mentioned in this thread, I enjoy using Peter Gabriel's - "So" to demonstrate - a nice blend of sonics and subtlety
Designdweeb 10-01-2009, 05:56 PM E. Power Biggs - Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor
Only a very good speaker can properly reproduce the low pedal notes and incredible dynamics of a great pipe organ. Lesser speakers need not apply.
:thmbsp:++++++++++++1:tresbon:
33&athird 10-01-2009, 08:20 PM I hear so many people that just rave and rave over Brother in Arms... I have it.. yes, it's a great LP, but I just don't understand why everyone raves about it so much? I think there is a lot better stuff out there.. as far as substance and engineering... so can anyone clue me in to why B.I.A. is so well reguarded?
I just played my mom's copy (very clean) and it sounds great, and that may have more to do with why people like it, rather than a dynamic range. Since it was also the first full digital album, and the first to sell more cd's (a sign of things to come), it was probably just well regarded for the new recording techniques as much as anything.
I got a new track (picked it up on lp today)
Smiley faces - Gnarls Barkley
... not everyones cup of tea, but this song has a little bit of everything, a well-defined bass-line, sharp vocals, and good mixing. Actually (to tie everything together) I'd rather use that single track than Brothers In Arms, just due to the production Gnarls Barkley uses. I'd love to find the Gorillaz (self titled) album and hear "double bass" on a real system with lp, rahter than cd.
wrxr7 10-02-2009, 10:48 AM Another one for you guys that I got recently turned onto is the Gordon Goodwin Big Band CD's...one of the songs is Sing,Sang, Sung which is a spin-off of the Benny Goodman song and it has some of the best Big Band dynamics I've heard...beats the old Harry James Direct-to Disc LP by a mile. and the musicianship is light years ahead as well. Got tuned into this one with a new set of Klipsch Jubilee speakers ( this converted me to a horn speaker guy that I am now), I've sold my Maneplanar Tympani's, and the incredibly inefficient Mirage M1 speakers since hearing this disc on those speakers.
If you think the CD sounds good, you should here the DVD-A. It's one of my favorites.
hobie1dog 10-02-2009, 08:07 PM Stravinsky - Firebird Suite
Sometimes I know that "hit" is coming and it still startles me.
On LP or CD? which label? Telarc?
hobie1dog 10-02-2009, 08:08 PM If you think the CD sounds good, you should here the DVD-A. It's one of my favorites.
Is the dvd-a even more dynamic?
hobie1dog 10-04-2009, 07:50 PM I did find the KODO Japanese drummers CD with the song, O-Daiko and when the flute player turns away from the mic and they haul off and whack the big drum at :50, I jumped in my seat....now that's what I'm talking about.
jimash 10-04-2009, 09:27 PM Same ones I use for testing speakers.
Meddle by pink Floyd.
And Quadrophenia by the Who.
Maybe Santana Abraxas
Or a Tom Petty album
Maybe "Close to the Edge "
I am pretty pedestrian and don't have too many CD's.
Grainger49 10-05-2009, 05:04 AM I did find the KODO Japanese drummers CD with the song, O-Daiko and when the flute player turns away from the mic and they haul off and whack the big drum at :50, I jumped in my seat....now that's what I'm talking about.
I love that track. Still haven't found it on LP. And if I ever do I bet it will be damaged at that huge thwack!
On LP or CD? which label? Telarc?
My favorites are:
Detroit Symphony Orchestra / Antol Dorati
San Fransisco Symph. Orch. / Michael Tilson Thomas
The Chicago Symph. Orchestra version with James Levine for the Fantasia 2000 soundtrack has what I think is the biggest bang, though. It's a whopper.
I usually put on Donald Fagan's first solo album.
cwall99 10-05-2009, 07:36 PM Wow; I haven't heard Dixie Chicken in YEARS~ Think I'll got look it up....
My pleasure. I hope it worked out well for you.
I have it on a MoFi vinyl disk and a re-issued CD (I had the original CD release, too, but was disgusted when I found out it lacked "Don't bogart that joint" and another track). The new re-issued CD has a lot of extra tracks on it featuring the Power of Tower horn section.
But it's that cymbal snap on the vinyl MoFi disk that gets my attention.
cwall99 10-05-2009, 07:40 PM I hear so many people that just rave and rave over Brother in Arms... I have it.. yes, it's a great LP, but I just don't understand why everyone raves about it so much? I think there is a lot better stuff out there.. as far as substance and engineering... so can anyone clue me in to why B.I.A. is so well reguarded?
Frankly, I can do pretty much without the entire second side (I get a little tired of Mark Knopfler doing his, "I'm the wandering troubador/bard" thing), but the first side is pretty good.
My guess is that if people aren't used to listening to the long version or aren't used to hearing a good pressing (I have it on a great DVD-A disc), they aren't used to hearing all the cool guitar parts going on in Money for Nothing.
Speaking of Mark Knopfler, though, one of the best CDs in my collection is a Mark Knopfler and Chet Atkins collaboration called Just Friends, and it's just an incredible demonstration of finger-pickin' virtuosity. Especially the track, "There'll be some changes made."
cwall99 10-05-2009, 07:44 PM Is the dvd-a even more dynamic?
In general, DVD-As are much more dynamic than their CD counterparts, so, yeah, if you have a DVD-A player, get a copy.
BTW, if you can't play DVD-A or SACD, I recommend the Oppo 980 universal disc player. It's relatively cheap (about $170) and it totally rocks (and it's a darn good upscaling DVD player, too).
carbonman 10-05-2009, 07:59 PM Afro Celt Sound System - Big Cat, from the CD "Release".
cwall99 10-06-2009, 11:09 AM Afro Celt Sound System - Big Cat, from the CD "Release".
The only ACSS music I have is a single they released with Peter Gabriel singing. I believe the track is called, "When you're falling" or something like that. Great track. I'll have to see if I can't find this disk.
Thanks.
SkyLounger 02-05-2010, 08:42 AM Painted Desert from Pat Benatar's Tropico LP
electronjohn 02-05-2010, 01:02 PM A couple of the more impressive selections out of my collection:
Peter Gabriel..."Red Rain" 12" single Whoooo!
David & David.."Welcome To The Boomtown" Another 12" single...never fails to satisfy.
In the 1s & 0s department, I love "What A Shame About Me" by Don & Walt...along with anything from "Kamakiriad". Very dynamic. Plus, "Somebody's Saturday Night" from Walter Becker's "Circus Money".
cwall99 02-05-2010, 01:15 PM Pink floyd- Time. Man those clocks are loud!
Eons ago, when I was in high school, I thought it would be a good idea to put fuses in line in my speaker wires. My main receiver at the time (which I still have) was a Sansui G-4700 (50 wpc), and it was the damn clocks that always tripped the fuses. I wasn't hyper-cranking it, either. I never liked turning the volume up past the one o'clock position. Granted, I was playing the MoFi half-speed mastered disk. :D
Okay, maybe two.
Still, now I also have a really nice 5.1 multi-channel SACD that sounds pretty flippin' amazing, though I've read they didn't use the original quad tapes to make this disk.
So, yeah, in either format, DSOTM is a great demo, especially Time and Money. Hey, isn't that funny... Time IS money.
Vinyl demos (beyond DSOTM):
- Of course the Telarc 1812 Overture
- Little Feat Waiting for Columbus (another MoFi disk) - Dixie Chicken (when that cymbal snaps near the end of the piano solo....)
- The Who - Who Are You (off another half-speed mastered disk, but not MoFi)
- The Rough Trade Direct-to-Disk album (the songs suck, but the dynamics are crazy good)
Digital Demos
SACD
- Edgar Winter Group - They Only Come Out at Night - Frankenstein
DVD-A
- Steely Dan - Gaucho (the whole thing)
- Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Dual-Disk
- The Talkings Heads Brick collection, especially Naked and Speaking in Tongues
DVD
Because my Oppo disk player is a universal disk player, I'll also add these movies to the list: Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (using the DTS soundtrack), especially the opening battle.
Peter Gabriel - Play - the videos (again, using the DTS soundtrack)
TNRabbit 02-19-2010, 11:41 PM "Tricyle" -- Flim & the BBs. On SACD if you can find it (rare).
similost 02-19-2010, 11:44 PM I just found out that Madonna Vogue is a hell of a track for peaks and valleys, along with tightness of bass and crisp highs.. go figure.. never would have imagined.. not my style typically..
daza152 02-20-2010, 02:59 AM I'm not sure what you mean about dynamics, but when I wanted to show off my new speakers I played Hotel California acoustic version on my ipod through my diamond series bookself wharfedale speakers and my harmon kardon reciever and it sounds incredible :yes: play that one you won't be dissapointed.
daza.
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