View Full Version : Those silly Pioneer Speaker connectors


bookasan
10-04-2004, 04:54 PM
Does anyone know who manufactured those stupid plug in speaker terminal connectors that were used on their receivers?
I need about a dozen of them.
I have seen them for sale at somewhat high prices at a couple of audio related sites, but they must be buying them from somewhere.
I have many sources for connectors since I am an electronics buyer and the comodities I buy are resistors, caps, connectors, PCB's and transformers. I looked through all of my manufacturers catalogs and the closest thing I could find, wasn't close enough.
I find it hard to believe they would have had them made just for them.

RocknRoll
10-04-2004, 05:26 PM
I think this is the cheapest source. http://www.classicaudio.com/service.html

Oaktree sells them for $20 something.

EchoWars
10-04-2004, 05:30 PM
I need some too.

This is the cheapest I've seen...

http://www.vintage-electronics.cc/parts.html

gyusher
10-04-2004, 06:30 PM
I found some new ones somewhere last week but I cant remember where right now. . . I want to say MCM or PE. . . It was a major electrical supply house but danged if I can remember. . .

I flashed on them because I thought it so unusual to find them there. . .where ever there is. . . I will try and walk back through my history. . .

Retro Stereo
10-04-2004, 08:40 PM
You aren't going to beat this price here:


http://www.partsolver.com/Product.asp?InventoryID=4596569&SubstitutePart=0&ModelManufacturer=Pioneer&ModelNumber=SX-828&ModelID=275253&OrgPartNum=&OrgPartMfg=Pioneer


I just found this price about a week ago. If I would have seen this a couple of weeks ago, I would have saved myself about $13 for two pairs.



Retro

gyusher
10-04-2004, 09:38 PM
Maybe that is where I found it while searching parts for my 525. . .

niles300z
02-19-2009, 12:07 AM
Looking for those silly plug in Pioneer speaker adapters. Is this thread too old?
Thanks
Niles

Boogieman
02-19-2009, 12:24 AM
Looking for those silly plug in Pioneer speaker adapters. Is this thread too old?
Thanks
Niles

It looks like you can get them here:

http://www.partstore.com/Part/Pioneer+Electronics/Pioneer/SX525/Pioneer+Electronics/Pioneer/AKM003/New.aspx

johnnm
02-19-2009, 11:29 AM
Why the heck are these things so expensive??? I notice LOTS of equipment missing them. I guess if you can take them off a piece of crap and sell 2 of them for $20, then that explains why people would take them off. But what's with the scarcity?

Boogieman
02-19-2009, 12:21 PM
Why the heck are these things so expensive??? I notice LOTS of equipment missing them. I guess if you can take them off a piece of crap and sell 2 of them for $20, then that explains why people would take them off. But what's with the scarcity?

That's a small price to pay if you need 'em.

:yes:

audiojones
02-19-2009, 01:55 PM
I bought some for my SX-727 a few years ago directly from Pioneer, they were $9 or $10 plus whatever the postal rate was then. They said that they still had the service manuals for it too, although I didn't buy one. Don't know if they're still there - somewhere in California, their main headquarters for parts.

Pyrrho
02-19-2009, 03:42 PM
Pioneer still sells them:

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=AKM%2D003

As of 19 February 2009 (in case someone looks at this in the future) they are $9.50 plus shipping & tax. I have never seen them anywhere cheaper than what Pioneer charges direct.

Pyrrho
02-19-2009, 03:46 PM
Why the heck are these things so expensive??? I notice LOTS of equipment missing them. I guess if you can take them off a piece of crap and sell 2 of them for $20, then that explains why people would take them off. But what's with the scarcity?

I think people lose them just like they lose remote controls and other small things. People are careless, and they just unplug them to remove the speaker wire, set the receiver aside, and then with the wire, they either just throw it away, or when they reuse the wire with some other receiver, they have connectors that they don't know anything about, and just throw away the connectors. Then later when they look at the receiver again, they wonder what happened to the connectors.

markthefixer
02-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Here's a previous post:
That link could get the thread bounced to $ & c

here's a picture found by googling "pioneer speaker plugs", and clicking on images
and there will be a few vendors that pop up, some are expen$ive!!

http://www.classicaudio.com/images/piospkr.gif

then there's a way to get cinch inline connectors, cut off one of the three pins and use it as well:
(from electronicplus.com , part # P303CCT @ $4.95 ea no affiliation)
You do not have to cut the center pin on the electronicplus plug - it easily disassembles and you can just remove it completely.
Great!! Thanks Oz!!! :D


Here's the cinch inline connector, electronicplus.com , part # P303CCT @ $4.95 ea no affiliation

http://www.electronicplus.com/images/products/P303CCT.jpg

third option:

Adapt in some spring terminal connectors, pull and save the old ones JIC...
(that's what I would do, with some tinted acrylic sheet as the adapter)

tarior
02-20-2009, 01:01 AM
Isn't that a Cinch-Jones plug, like a 303 with the center pin removed?

planerguy
03-03-2009, 03:14 PM
These are very similar to ones sold for car sound applications. All you have to do is pop out the plug from inside, as it's not even glued in. Slightly enlarge the hole with a round file, and tap in the replacement. If you do both speakers, it will look very close to stock, and actually will be better as the terminals are more robust with better springs and heavier push tabs. I come across them at car sound equipment places for about a buck a piece.

fernarias
08-26-2011, 01:24 AM
This website is so awesome. They still have them at pioneer and I just bought 4 for my Pioneer Sx-828.

F.

70salesguy
08-26-2011, 06:35 PM
Make your own at about $1.00 each.

AC plug. Twist one pin and file down the other.

Looks like hell, works well.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/winnabowflash/MVC-008F-4.jpg?t=1290370390

jkcoondog3
08-27-2011, 06:10 PM
I use a spade connector with a 6 to 8 in piece of speaker wire crimped on to it, then wire-nut my speaker wires to the leads. If the spade is to wide snip a little off so that it fits in receiver. If to loose solder a build up of solder on the spade. Had some spade connectors laying around and didn't cost me anything. I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay more for original plugs than I paid for the receiver itself. make sense? The above post is also a cool idea.

oldvinyldude
08-31-2011, 05:19 PM
I use a spade connector with a 6 to 8 in piece of speaker wire crimped on to it, then wire-nut my speaker wires to the leads. If the spade is to wide snip a little off so that it fits in receiver. If to loose solder a build up of solder on the spade. Had some spade connectors laying around and didn't cost me anything. I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay more for original plugs than I paid for the receiver itself. make sense? The above post is also a cool idea.

Yea-that would work, but 70SalesGuy's solution is so much more "professional" :ntwrthy:

......and did I note-cheap too:thmbsp:

70salesguy
08-31-2011, 09:05 PM
Yea-that would work, but 70SalesGuy's solution is so much more "professional" :ntwrthy:

......and did I note-cheap too:thmbsp:

I prefer the term "economical".

http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-Electrical-Outlets-Plugs-Plugs-Connectors/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbodr/R-202077684/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

jatco
09-03-2011, 06:32 PM
Make your own at about $1.00 each.

AC plug. Twist one pin and file down the other.

Looks like hell, works well.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/winnabowflash/MVC-008F-4.jpg?t=1290370390

Hellof an idea.. but can 2-side by side fit?

drknstrmyknight
09-03-2011, 06:46 PM
Pioneer still sells them.
http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=AKM-003

Marcio
11-02-2012, 05:59 PM
Hi, this plug fits the sx9000?
Thank's



Pioneer still sells them:

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=AKM%2D003

As of 19 February 2009 (in case someone looks at this in the future) they are $9.50 plus shipping & tax. I have never seen them anywhere cheaper than what Pioneer charges direct.

70salesguy
11-02-2012, 09:19 PM
Hi, this plug fits the sx9000?
Thank's

They should, they fit on the SX-6000.

Levitious
11-02-2012, 09:43 PM
Hi, this plug fits the sx9000?
Thank's

And they went down in price apparently

ChopperChas
02-06-2013, 02:30 PM
Has anyone ever replaced the terminals in the receiver itself with something else? Like binding posts? The speaker plugs work alright, but even moving the receiver slightly (when fiddling around swapping cables or something) causes the speaker wires to unplug. (I also have some pretty heavy gauge wire attached to them, which pulls on the connectors quite a bit). I'd be interested in a way to make them more secure. I toyed with the idea of soldering them into the receiver, but I'd rather have something a little more.... classy.

Charles.

KKnight
02-06-2013, 05:58 PM
I've got 4 originals FS in great condition

larryderouin
02-06-2013, 11:01 PM
Has anyone ever replaced the terminals in the receiver itself with something else? Like binding posts? The speaker plugs work alright, but even moving the receiver slightly (when fiddling around swapping cables or something) causes the speaker wires to unplug. (I also have some pretty heavy gauge wire attached to them, which pulls on the connectors quite a bit). I'd be interested in a way to make them more secure. I toyed with the idea of soldering them into the receiver, but I'd rather have something a little more.... classy.

Charles.

You'd have to remove the whole speaker plug blocks. Then fabricate a plate to cover the holes to attach the Banana plugs to. Go for it and show off some handiwork.

My 424 has all of the plugs. I keep them taped in a bag to the back, which helps keep the spring contacts from wearing out.

Larry
Larry

Battra92
02-07-2013, 07:40 AM
You know, as much as we whine about these proprietary parts, I think these are a pretty good idea. I mean, speaker shorts are nothing to sneeze at and plugging something in is so much better than twisting (and maybe tinning) wire and putting it in a hole. A good set of banana plugs will run you $5 so I don't find the price from Pioneer direct to be that bad.

My Allied amp I use in my workshop uses these. I guess that pretty much proves it was made by Pioneer.

jsg1469
03-29-2013, 03:08 PM
Male spade wire terminals work really well and a 4 pack will cost you .79 cents.

Dave1384
03-29-2013, 10:54 PM
http://www.sourcingmap.com/pcs-gold-tone-male-spade-crimp-terminals-78mm-wiring-connectors-p-250707.html

Marcio
03-31-2013, 08:03 AM
Salesguy, I thought that replace the connectors would be a better option and used these parts-express connectors.
https://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=090-475

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/Marcio73/AUDIO/Imagem050_zps9785cee5.jpg

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/Marcio73/AUDIO/Imagem044_zps4ebcbe6b.jpg




They should, they fit on the SX-6000.

shepdotcom
10-22-2013, 10:57 PM
Pioneer no longer stocks AKM 003. :((

SteveTeo
04-21-2014, 06:34 AM
Just found this type of replacement AC plug at my local Ace Hardware. A perfect part to use for SX plugs! For about $4.99 each!!! At Amazon they're $2.95 plus $4.99 shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-White-Cord-Plug-016-00101-WP/dp/B00JJU1XVC
Grind the plug sides to be more narrow, slice off the plastic sides (they fold on a thin hinge that's easy to slice clean away with a razor knife), twist one lug, and you are good to go. I plan to smooth/polish the plug faces so they don't scrape the inner walls of the receptacles. My Pioneer SX-2500 sounds great! And the finished part is narrow enough to have two side by side.

ChopperChas
04-21-2014, 08:38 AM
Do note, that by using a non-standard connector, you can bend the contacts in the receiver out, and cause a situation where the connection is not made well. My QX4000 had this issue - the rear speakers would drop out and crackle like I had a deoxit problem, seemingly at random. Ended up being loose speaker connections. So be wary of using anything that's not an original connector -- if you ever get the OEM connectors and want to use them, you may have damaged the receiver.

Charles.

pioneernut
04-21-2014, 09:53 AM
I used the Cinch Jones connector recently because you can't buy the originals from Pioneer anymore and I'm not paying 30 bucks on ebay for them. For just under 4 bucks each from Mouser you can solve the problem quite easily. Doesn't look bad either.

SteveTeo
04-21-2014, 12:48 PM
Same for me. These are fine. And they're about the same thickness as the vintage.


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Old HiFi Guy
04-22-2014, 03:34 PM
It would be appreciated if you could post the Moouser part #. Thanks.

markthefixer
04-23-2014, 03:12 AM
mouser.com

538-P-303H-CCT @ 3.66 ea 10 @ 3.41

I'm surprised...


addendum

there's a
538-P-303H-CCTL that is $6.73 ea,
it is a
538-P-303H-CCT that has an additional locking mechanism installed which will not be used, in fact, it would be in the way.

Old HiFi Guy
04-23-2014, 12:10 PM
Thank you.

ChopperChas
04-23-2014, 06:14 PM
Now if only there was a solution for the too-close-together Pioneer RCA jacks...

Charles.

pieinear
04-24-2014, 06:43 PM
thanks for the mouser link but how about this one
http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Power-Connectors/Jones-Plugs-Sockets/_/N-axivw?Keyword=538-P-304H-CCT&FS=True

have not measured it but look like it my take the place of 2 of the other ones (303H)

markthefixer
04-24-2014, 11:02 PM
thanks for the mouser link but how about this one
http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Power-Connectors/Jones-Plugs-Sockets/_/N-axivw?Keyword=538-P-304H-CCT&FS=True

have not measured it but look like it my take the place of 2 of the other ones (303H)

I saw that before posting... and decided against mentioning it.

At $4.28 it's a gamble, and it's not good odds that the spacing is correct.

THEN if it doesn't fit, it's a complete loss. I refrain from giving questionable advice.

pieinear
04-25-2014, 05:47 PM
agree'd. but next time i order from them i think i'll take the chance, i'll post when ever that is. maybe this year?

markthefixer
04-25-2014, 08:26 PM
I sincerely hope they fit. I will be watching... :D

But then four speakers will boil down to one connector. :scratch2:

PapaGino
04-26-2014, 04:43 PM
Hey there, I'm new to the group - I've just recently got my hands on a nicely working sx-525.

Bought it off ebay, and of course, no speaker plugs! So I tried the DIY solution that Oerets posted, and later markthefixer summarized - with the AC plug. Bent one prong, filed it down, attached my speaker wire to the screw terminals, and wrapped electrical tape around the whole shebang for insulation.

My issue is, theres a constant loud snap crackle and pop coming out the speakers along with my music - is this a bad connection for that speaker?

snacky
04-29-2014, 04:51 PM
Hi. I'm the new guy. Great site/resource.
I'm in the process of doing the cinch inline connectors solution for my Pioneer SX 440. The modification of those things to two-prong was a piece of cake.
Haven't hooked up the speakers yet, but am wondering, with the two "plug screws"/speaker wires mounted to the same metal brackets, will there be a phasing issue? Any need to introduce a separation between where the two wires connect for each speaker? Just don't want to risk harming my speakers.
Thanks for any advice.

markthefixer
04-29-2014, 11:12 PM
I don't understand, there should NOT be any conduction between the pins except for the actual speaker, metal between the two contacts making contact with both would be a damaging direct short.

snacky
04-30-2014, 10:31 AM
Thanks for the quick reply. And yes, as you'll see in the attached photo, both screws of the cinch plate connect the same two metal plates, without any interruption/separation of contact. Am I misunderstanding where the speaker wire should connect, or is there a need to introduce a gasket or something to keep the two separate?

snacky
05-03-2014, 02:37 PM
I've got the cinch connectors in there, seems like a great solution. Question about hooking up speaker wire: The two metal plates out the back of the cinch connector are held on by the two screws I would have thought the speaker wire should be attached to. Only problem is, with the screws and plates touching, the two wires would both be on the same connection. How did you hook your speakers up using the cinch connector?

markthefixer
05-03-2014, 11:55 PM
no no no those are outside strain relief clamps.

they have NOTHING to do with electrical connections. They are purely mechanical. To keep the wires from being ripped out of the connector.

The little pin on the opposite end of the black body, stuck in the side?

That pulls OUT, allowing the hood of the connector to be pulled away from the piece holding the connector blades sticking out the front. You will find places to connect the speaker wires INSIDE, which will be exposed when the hood is released from the pin.

snacky
05-05-2014, 10:32 AM
Ah ha! Thanks, Mark.

markthefixer
05-05-2014, 04:50 PM
Ah ha! Thanks, Mark.

When you open them,
(again? they were THREE pin connectors and they ARE plugged in, or did you cut it off from the outside?)

would you post a picture of them open and inserted in the Pioneer's connectors?

Would be a GREAT addition to the thread.

snacky
05-06-2014, 12:40 PM
These were three-pin cinch connectors. Removing the hood (by pulling the tiny pin on the outside side), the middle pin was easy to twist and slide out. No need to cut it off from the outside.

Without the hoods, the backs of the connector-pins even have a hole to thread your speaker cable through. Hoods are pictured off to the side.

bktheking
05-06-2014, 01:49 PM
Solder them wires!

Bogframe
05-06-2014, 04:00 PM
I thought you meant these
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-Pcs-44-8mmx21mm-2pin-Red-and-Black-Push-Type-Speaker-Terminal-Board-Connector/637089583.html

pieinear
06-13-2014, 06:38 PM
thanks for the mouser link but how about this one
http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Power-Connectors/Jones-Plugs-Sockets/_/N-axivw?Keyword=538-P-304H-CCT&FS=True

have not measured it but look like it my take the place of 2 of the other ones (303H)


these DO NOT fit. gunna have to go another week without a 6 pack to pay for them. oh well