As you may well know, we have been hard at work behind the scenes to upgrade the Audiokarma server. Well this was done Oct 7th, at which time we moved the database to verify vBulletin was up and running. The next step was to upgrade the software to the new vBulletin 3.0 from our old 2.3. This meant I had to capture all the data and move it to the new server where it was recompiled to work with the new 3.0 code. What this all means, is any data since between Oct 7th and the resync of the nameserver will not appear on the new server.

Ahhh....a breath of fresh air! :D

Everyone will notice things are going to look a *bit* different from now on......may take some getting used to, but there are a lot of new features to explore :)

Wow, hate to say it guys - but I'm not impressed at ALL.

Slow, and cheesy - I thought this was supposed to be an upgrade, no?

It's so bad, I don't know if I even care to use it anymore. Is this temporary, or the way it's going to be now?

Please clarify: accessing the site is slow, the site is running slow, etc... I do know the switchover is not complete as most members are still directed to the old server. Even I have to type in the IP address to get there.

OK, I am confused... e.g., looking at the "Turntables and Tape" forum, the listing of posts by "last date posted to" is completely different on the "old" vs. "new" link. Will this normalize itself, or am I missing something?

Come on Rusty give things a chance to work themselves out. This new server will be really cool once the changeover is complete. Nice work, Luther. :)


Mike

oop... I think I know what it is: "new" is apparently 10/4/04 for the new server...
As if the intervening 14 days never happened

(cue Twilight Zone music... or "Let's Do the Time Warp Again")

Will the stuff missing in between the dates eventually get put in here?

Looks great!

It'll take a few days to catch on, but I like it!!

Will the stuff missing in between the dates eventually get put in here?

As stated in the annoucements and post on the old server any data after the 7th will not be here. Once the old server is termintated the data will be lost forever. In the annoucements here, you can access the old server to save anything you want to keep.

I likey!! Everything nice and organized and a lot easier to read for me... new color scheme, layout and all.

In no time we'll be used to the new format and it will be business as usual... you'll see.

Great job you Web gurus! :thmbsp:

Wards:

What exactly do you mean by "data". Just pictures, or are we going to lose the old threads?

I hope not the latter; there's too many treasures there :cry:

Wait a minute, you mean just the stuff AFTER the 7th will be gone??

If so that's much better! :)

Well, the first thing other than that which I noticed is that I reverted to my old password (musta changed it during the transition period), my current avatar also split along with any CP information prior to the seventh. My PMs are still on the old site too. I just saw somebody registering on the old server...will that cause them any problems? I will not alter any CP information until the board is fully operational.

Maybe one last nitpick that I looked at concerning PMs on the new board--

The icon for unread is an OPEN envelope while read is CLOSED? Sounds like the new math to me...

Hey...there is no Question icon for the title line!

Anyway, Luther has his steam iron going and extra bleach for the whites. Like I told him, the spider thing bites...I just hope everybody knows to use my email address if they have PM troubles. I assume it's in my profile still?

Steven

****This just in! Apparently you cannot use the links in the email notification to access the old site when somebody follows up on a subscribed thread. The new board will state you are not following a valid thread! Do not use the links and go directly to the forum page. My guess is that since the new server coordinates the old but does not carry the affected traffic and any replies made to the old files are not forwarded, the new server CANNOT see the page you are looking for (it is not on the new server). To summarize the little I know about servers, When you request the old AK, you are redirected by the new server but it does not receive feedback. Any traffic on the old AK will still trigger it's board functions so it will respond but none of its commands work on the new server. If that's confusing, it's still better than no AK for a day or two, and Luther and all at AK have been pretty great about it. Kudos to you guys for extreme service in a time of great stress! :thmbsp: :yes: :banana:

Looks good, but tis a bit slow right now, guess that will improve? Folks are still posting to the old site - guess those posts are lost as well?

-Dave

Some questions and concerns......have seen a thread which now only has the original post and none of the replies that were on the old server. Is this something that will correct itself or will it stay this way? Can't help but thing that this has occurred with other threads, perhaps some have completely disappeared too?

What about that crazy thread with all the insane photos we had awhile back.....might that disappear? On a more serious note, what about the invaluable informative posts? Of course, I'm in no way referring to any of mine! LOL

I cannot find the "Mark All Forums Read" button.....am I just blind or does this no longer exist? I can't bear to be without that function!

Will the URL revert back to "Audiokarma.Org" or will it remain this non-descript number? 65.219.61.150

I fully expected an adjustment period for both users and moderators so am not complaining, just want/need clarification. So far, it looks purty good!

Anthony (puhleeze fix the "Mark All Forums Read" button!)

As stated in the annoucements and post on the old server any data after the 7th will not be here. Once the old server is termintated the data will be lost forever. In the annoucements here, you can access the old server to save anything you want to keep.

OK I'm looking and can't seem to find the thingy for moving stuff from the old server to here can you help me out? No rush I won't be able to do anything till later anyhoo ;)

I cannot find the "Mark All Forums Read" button.....am I just blind or does this no longer exist? I can't bear to be without that function!

Look at the navagation bar at the top of the page, click on quick links. There is a lot more in the new navagation bar, just start clicking.

OK I'm looking and can't seem to find the thingy for moving stuff from the old server to here can you help me out? No rush I won't be able to do anything till later anyhoo ;)

You can't move anything from the old serve to the new server. You can copy and past into notepad and save on your computer anything you want to keep.

Other than being unable to find a "Reply" button to post, methinks it is all very kewl. Excellent work, guys.

-Edit- I also can't seem to change my avatar, but it may just be me being dumb.

eric

If Google can archive entire Usenet groups and these things are far smaller than the files we post being mostly TEXT ONLY and some dating back to 1999, why are these 11 days gonna end up like the Honeymooners lost episodes?

Are the two servers even in the same location (the "easiest" way to do it)? I would figure it would take one-two days per forum but you could insert these by cut and paste or something?

It took twenty years to reassemble Doctor Who (minus an entire serial) but they did it? Is this a storage issue? If we can't restore 11 days of data for lack of storage then we're in trouble (I seriously DOUBT it too)...

Obviously some people really value those files now and some of the data would be of use to others later. AK cannot become twins then. The data needs to have one base.

My .02
Steven

Anthony

Mark Forums Read, among other things, is under Quick Links at the top /right of the page.

I think this is what your looking for.

Edit: Wards got you to the right place.

That quick links is a nice little feature, everything you need in one place.
Me likey, me likey! :banana: :banana:

Even the dancing bannana is happy... then again he's ALWAYS happy!
I want to be on what he's on!

You can't move anything from the old serve to the new server. You can copy and past into notepad and save on your computer anything you want to keep.

We could take each post and cut and paste to reconstruct it as new threads if we wanted to, but really, why can't you insert it later?

Apparently the integrity of our database seems to be on more than a few minds! We're not even asking for it today...after all you've been though, but I think it's clear that for a group that's only two years old continuity for 11-12 daze is a big issue. Better YOU than us to plug it in, Luther.

PS You need to consider disabling the reply feature on the old server at some point anyway.

In order to bring all the posts that are not on THIS server over here would require Uploading the ENTIRE old site.

That is Not a task that is easy nor quick. Sorry but if you want something from the old server Copy and paste it to your hard drive and be quick about it. The old site will not be up for that much longer.

Hey, I like the printable thread feature!! :yes:

-Dave

You can also point at a thread title and a little window will pop up with the first few lines of the thread. Neat!

-Dave

You can't move anything from the old serve to the new server. You can copy and past into notepad and save on your computer anything you want to keep.
This mornng I just went in to AK as usual and somehow ended up here.

How do I get to the old server without getting re-directed back here again?

Steve

All is working fine on the "right' coast. Great job guys! :thmbsp:

Great job, smooth fast cruising here :thmbsp:

Very nice, Great job!

Hey, when will we be able to update avatars?

This mornng I just went in to AK as usual and somehow ended up here.

How do I get to the old server without getting re-directed back here again?

Steve

There are direct links to the old site in the annoucement at the top of every category.

Will the URL revert back to "Audiokarma.Org" or will it remain this non-descript number? 65.219.61.150


Heatkit tv, this is temporary. It takes awhile for the DNS (domain name servers) to update. A name server is what resolves a name to an IP address. In this case it says that AudioKarma.org resides at IP 65.219.61.150. When you make a change to your domain it has to replicate out through all the nameservers in the world. Usually takes 24 to 48 hours.

So more than likely by tomorrow, typing in www.audiokarma.org will bring you to the new server. The old one will not be accessible except by typing in the OLD IP address and then not at all once they take the old server down.

Rich

How do you change your avatar? The change avatar option just shows you the current one? :dunno:

-Dave

How do you change your avatar? The change avatar option just shows you the current one? :dunno:

-Dave
Yup, me too...would like to add mine as well and cannot.

There are direct links to the old site in the annoucement at the top of every category.
I had managed to find them.

Thanks anyway.

Steve

Nice work Guys, Thanks. At the same time as this server upgrade is happening, I just built a new computer and started with Win XP, so I am suffering from disorientation everywhere. I know it's for the best though.

Great job guys.

I don't remember anyone getting paid to do all this IT, so cut the guys some slack you whiners (Where's my avatar, sniff; How come I can't get my old data, pout). Somebody busted ass with no/minimal pay to make this all happen, and I for one appreciate it. Jumping servers isn't like hooking up a set of speakers (which some of us have FU'd), so give it a few weeks to settle in.

Just save the old data and figure it out later. It's Nixon's tapes or the Honeymooners right now and a lot of good &&&& went into the old system in that period much less it would save some disorientation to newbies later on.

I might be a pack rat...I have maybe 1500 font files I burned, copied to disc or bought/archived from programs, as well as graphic files and elements and programs I downloaded for utilities and drivers. I have maybe 70 burned discs and 150 floppies. Yet I estimate I may have lost 30% of my files to lack of archiving or loss of hard disk and floppy data. I have possibly 10 backups going back 3 years and enough redundancy to replace most of it.

Wornears, I don't believe that any of us are whiners. I think that a lot of people have believed that the data would be added later when Luther wasn't so badly taxed. I don't want to see the data lost like an old DuMont program or virtually all videotape of Doctor Who until 1971 or so. Certainly nobody, myself included, is unappreciative. I saved my mobo the other day when the PS started smoking, the next day Norton found CIH (Chernobyl) in an outside copy of an OEM driver I had a friend make (it saved me too). I can't overlay the thing and a dual BIOS won't let me, so it's 2 gig or less a drive (try finding them). A PS died and took it's intended replacement last June, and I've put almost $500 into pulling through a fiasco (on benefits even). I do not need the definition of MIRACLE and I know they know it too.

I repeat, please dump the archived server to a backup set and learn how to use it later. That seems to be what most would like at least. It's not a vanity thing at all...I have 1.2/1.0 and 850 MB drives and will not see a replacement (13 GB) until after the server closes. I cannot archive the way Grumpy and Luther ask. I don't even have a burner on this (everything's at the computer shop waiting for a mobo).

That is the ONLY point I've ever wished to argue concerning AK. In no way is this an angry letter either. I see few problems with the new board and think this will be much easier and fun to participate in. I just think valuable context is being lost and something has to be saved. This is my vote now that the GF and I have cast our mail ballots for national, state and local issues.

{You will know who when I do too :lurk: just like having a baby, eh?}

Steven

Paul has lost maybe 100 serial no. in his Sticky. Well, no, HE isn't missing them, but for the rest of us, they're toast. :no:

Great job guys.

I don't remember anyone getting paid to do all this IT, so cut the guys some slack you whiners (Where's my avatar, sniff; How come I can't get my old data, pout). Somebody busted ass with no/minimal pay to make this all happen, and I for one appreciate it. Jumping servers isn't like hooking up a set of speakers (which some of us have FU'd), so give it a few weeks to settle in.

Started working up a response to this, but decided it was not worth my time.

end up as a tall box that blinks so fast that it can never be read. Win 98SE, OE6, usually 18 pt fonts for that feature in Windows (tool tip). Just waiting for more new content to come in (sigh).

While I hail all the new features and increased performance, I definately prefer the older look!

My main gripe about the new format is that the nicks, avatars and personal info, and the time of the post are stacked above each post's text, instead of it all being tucked nicely to the left. So it's "time, nick/avatar/info, text, time, nick/avatar/info, text," etc. That makes for more scrolling because of the physically longer pages (add the signatures and it gets even longer). More importantly, IMO, it disrupts the flow of many threads which have great back-and-forth amongst the members. It needlessly clutters up the look of everything. I also don't like having the members' info all the way on the opposite side of the page from the nick and avatar. It's great when both are clustered together, right where they can have the most effect. Again, it's a needless change in the look, and is actually a step backwards in design! :no:

I'm kind of reminded of when Sansui first went from their wonderful black and/or silver metal look to the tacky plastic crap everyone else was selling. The internal parts were actually excellent - some of the best they ever designed, according to many experts. Yet the cheap exterior, with the trendy-at-the-time rectangular buttons, sliders and LED meters, and the quickly-dated multi-colored graphics (:puke: ), will never hold the kind of allure for collectors that the "old school" metal-faced Sansuis do, with their beefy milled knobs, smooth switches, and lovely analog meters. The "old" AK arrangment is comfortable and works beautifully. Why try and fix it? :screwy:

Add all the cool features and performance enhancements you like; they're always welcome (and I can quickly get used to the "soothing" XP-ish colors and graphics). Just don't screw around with a great overall visual design - especially when what replaces it is not as good! Sorry, but while the new place has some great engineering, this architectural design major is a tad disappointed with its ergonomics. :thumbsdn:

[Editor's note: the smilies' positions in relation to the text seem to be back to normal. Thank you. ;)]

-Alphalima

Just save the old data and figure it out later. It's Nixon's tapes or the Honeymooners right now and a lot of good &&&& went into the old system in that period much less it would save some disorientation to newbies later on.

I might be a pack rat...I have maybe 1500 font files I burned, copied to disc or bought/archived from programs, as well as graphic files and elements and programs I downloaded for utilities and drivers. I have maybe 70 burned discs and 150 floppies. Yet I estimate I may have lost 30% of my files to lack of archiving or loss of hard disk and floppy data. I have possibly 10 backups going back 3 years and enough redundancy to replace most of it.

Wornears, I don't believe that any of us are whiners. I think that a lot of people have believed that the data would be added later when Luther wasn't so badly taxed. I don't want to see the data lost like an old DuMont program or virtually all videotape of Doctor Who until 1971 or so. Certainly nobody, myself included, is unappreciative. I saved my mobo the other day when the PS started smoking, the next day Norton found CIH (Chernobyl) in an outside copy of an OEM driver I had a friend make (it saved me too). I can't overlay the thing and a dual BIOS won't let me, so it's 2 gig or less a drive (try finding them). A PS died and took it's intended replacement last June, and I've put almost $500 into pulling through a fiasco (on benefits even). I do not need the definition of MIRACLE and I know they know it too.

I repeat, please dump the archived server to a backup set and learn how to use it later. That seems to be what most would like at least. It's not a vanity thing at all...I have 1.2/1.0 and 850 MB drives and will not see a replacement (13 GB) until after the server closes. I cannot archive the way Grumpy and Luther ask. I don't even have a burner on this (everything's at the computer shop waiting for a mobo).

That is the ONLY point I've ever wished to argue concerning AK. In no way is this an angry letter either. I see few problems with the new board and think this will be much easier and fun to participate in. I just think valuable context is being lost and something has to be saved. This is my vote now that the GF and I have cast our mail ballots for national, state and local issues.

{You will know who when I do too :lurk: just like having a baby, eh?}

Steven
Exactly. This is nearly two weeks worth of vibrant AK activity we're talking about. I could probably archive eveything I want on my machine, but heck, I can't even remember all the great stuff - including whole threads - that have accumulated in that time! At least keep the text and the links; the photos obviously take up a lot of space and (most of them) can be retrieved from various members and sources again, but the text is most important. Otherwise, you're breaking too many eggs for this otherwise tasty omelette. :worried:

BTW, what is it with the lock on our avatars and titles? :confused:

-AlphaLima

There's going to be some changes to come yet...tweaks, more or less, but this is it.

Give it time for the dust to settle for cripes sake everyone! Let's not have a bitch session about what you don't like for about 2 weeks. It's been HELL trying to get this up in the first place, and it's not over for us as we're trying to get all the bugs worked out.

This is really beginning to feel like a thankless job.

Hi All,

This is really beginning to feel like a thankless job.

I certainly hope not. I for one thank you guys! The upgrade was neccessary. Change takes adjustment and some folk don't do that well. I'm truly appreciative of the work you, Luther, and Dave continue to pour into this place.

I reviewed my new Tannoys in the transition period so I just cut and past the review over to the new server. It took me all of 30 seconds.

:banana:

There's going to be some changes to come yet...tweaks, more or less, but this is it.

Give it time for the dust to settle for cripes sake everyone! Let's not have a bitch session about what you don't like for about 2 weeks. It's been HELL trying to get this up in the first place, and it's not over for us as we're trying to get all the bugs worked out.

This is really beginning to feel like a thankless job.

Press on and be proud of all the time and effort, Kam. Some people would bitch if ya hung 'em with a new rope.


:D

Press on and be proud of all the time and effort, Kam. Some people would bitch if ya hung 'em with a new rope.


:D

Hmmm.. Maybe we should and see if they bitch :thmbsp:

Great job! I like the new look, and so much is at one's fingertips. Quick and easy.

Thanks

Another vote. I like the new site too. Feels fresh, crisp and I personaly feel its was about time for a new vista. Love the cool new features.

Good job Gents-

And thanks

J

I am surprised at the amount of complaints so far! I think everything is totally groovy...like TO THE MAX!

With any upgrade there are going to be some things that people don't dig, but most everything else kicks anus!

Who is going to be the first to post an Old Site vs. New Site poll?! Not me! I like this a lot. :thmbsp:

Even Mars is happy about our new server!!

Dave

:thmbsp: :D

Luther, Tim, Dave, and any other anonymous folks who may have lended a hand over the last few weeks, thanks for a terrific job!

I just logged on for the first time this morning, and maybe I was just in exactly the right frame of mind after my usual pissing and moaning about how much I hate trying to follow a thread in that crappy s/w that AA uses, but I think this new version is absolutely terrific.

I love the crisp, new colors and look. Certainly some things are in different places, but looking around and clicking on all the links to see what they do is half the fun of exploring new web sites! Besides, it ain't that different!

This willingness to bust your humps to keep the site growing and improving is one of the reasons this is the best audio site on the net.

Thanks again!
Clay :yes:

well said!

Well, I am smart enough never to complain about free food, but maybe not smart enough not to complain about a fine, free forum! The posters who reminded us that this is a labor of love for Tim, Luther, etc., etc. are of course exactly correct.

I do hope folks will cut 'n' paste some of the 'time slip' posts from the last couple of weeks from the old server to the new before it's too late.

Finally, and sincerely:
Thanks, gentlemen, for providing this forum for us all!

it's good enough for me!

Wow, gone 5 days and new look, new software, new server - great job guys!!

Pete

Thanks for the quick job of getting things moved over and converted to the new "still in flux" package. The old format had gotten comfy like an old shoe, but when it gets too tight, ya gotta take it off.

I suppose we could have saved that interrum data by having the site down for two weeks........ think anyone would have wanted that (not me :no: )? I know from experience, ya can't always simply back it all up and make custom inserts and updates without an extensive, prohibitively time consuming expenditure. (got a couple weeks vacation to give away for it?)

Anyhoo...... It's all about the music..... and people. We seem to have a good portion of both here, and good leadership. That's why I'm really pleased to be a part of this group - as we go through these changes.

Thanks Kamakiri and all those working on this. :thmbsp: :D

Looks good so far. I'm sure there will be some bugs, but they'll get worked out in time.

:thmbsp:

Thanks for the quick job of getting things moved over and converted to the new "still in flux" package. The old format had gotten comfy like an old shoe, but when it gets too tight, ya gotta take it off.

I suppose we could have saved that interrum data by having the site down for two weeks........ think anyone would have wanted that (not me :no: )? I know from experience, ya can't always simply back it all up and make custom inserts and updates without an extensive, prohibitively time consuming expenditure. (got a couple weeks vacation to give away for it?)

Anyhoo...... It's all about the music..... and people. We seem to have a good portion of both here, and good leadership. That's why I'm really pleased to be a part of this group - as we go through these changes.

Thanks Kamakiri and all those working on this. :thmbsp: :D

I'm afraid Luther's the one to thank here. All I was able to do during this extensive process was to bother him to ask how things were going.....

Kam,

So, you were just like the rest of us!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :lmao: :lmao: :D :yikes:

Dave

Humm, what a long strange journey it's been here at AK...

:banana: :banana: :banana:

keep up the good work..

Lefty

Even Mars is happy about our new server!!

Dave

That ain't Mars, that's Uranus :lmao:

And to the mods who revamped the server:
:yippy: :grnbounce :yippy: :grnbounce :yippy:

Hi All,


I reviewed my new Tannoys in the transition period so I just cut and past the review over to the new server. It took me all of 30 seconds.

:banana:

Brad:
How'd you do that?

Just cut and paste the text in a new thread? Does that drag all the other posts in the thread over?

There's a couple classics I don't want to lose, and I'm not quite sure on how to do it.
Cut and paste into what and save? Will they save as stand alone files or do I need to make a Word file and save them.

You could use Word or Notepad to do it. Just copy and paste in to Notepad - than copy and paste into a new window on the new server. Pretty easy really!!

Dave

Thanks so much everyone who worked on this. You all are the best :thmbsp:

Thanks for the clarification on who's to blame....... errrr I mean..... Who's been handling the nuts and bolts - I know the changeover is no simple task.

Thanks Luther!
:yes:

I gather the (admittedly promising-looking) search function is not working, either? :rolleyes:

Is it the hardware or the software that's responsible for this significant increase in performance? Is the obvious headache of moving everything to a newer BB OS truly necessary? This is all feeling kinda beta to me. The new bells and whistles are nice, indeed, but I have yet to see any that are vital to AK, at least on the user interface side of things. I also haven't seen a proper explaination of why everything from the last two weeks has to be consigned to the dustbin. This is probably the most troubling aspect of the switch, one I've never seen when other BB's have been upgraded. :worried:

I also resent the accusation or implication that I'm some kind of ungrateful asshole for not breathlessly fawning over everything. This is AK, not the Moonies. I would be remiss in my responsibilities to AK by not pointing out things that I honestly feel are not right about the new system. This is constructive criticism, not the mindless trashing of the powers that be. They don't :bs:, and neither do I.

Let me be clear - I really do appreciate the great effort in all this, and I'm sure things'll get ironed out, shortly. I just hope such a huge leap is truly worth it, when all is said and done.

-AlphaLima

If you can do a better job then do it ! I am sure that Ward, Kam and I could use a nice long break from your incessant whining and from the HUGE aggravation of keeping this site up !!!!

Because the two databases are not compatible, the only way to move the last two weeks of data would be to tar the entire database again and do a vB3 install from scratch. To recompile the 2.0 database alone takes about 18 hours, then I still have to add all the tweaks, hacks and changes so it looks similiar to the old site. All the while I would have to totally shutdown the site to everyone including admins and mods. No one can be in the site while I'm changing it. One I don't think many would like to be locked totally out of AK for a week (maybe less now that I've done it once) and not to mention, I don't get paid for this. It's all done after hours and late nights, as I do have a real day job.

Alpha,

These are all volunteers working on this site - they put there hearts into it!! You ingratefful whippersnapper!! (I could have used worse words, but thought better of it).

Give them time to tune the site - which has to be done while under load.

JUST TAKE A CHILL PILL!!!

Dave

It will take some time to get used to the changes but what the hay - AK is well run and the crew has done a good job on the updates.
Just remember AK is a privilege not a right.

Thank You for the privilege of being a member.

Anymore whining and it's 40 lashes with a wet noodle!

Anthony

To me the upgrade process has been seemless and the result is amazing. Sure there may be a kink here or there but I bet most of this is with the user.

Some people get what they pay for. Some people get more. Some people aren't happy with what they get no matter how much they pay (or don't).

OK, OK, OK, I'm shuttin' up about this, Grumpy. Yeesh. I may not like some of the changes (primarily the way the threads look), but like when I changed from Windows 98 SE to 2000 Pro, a few years back, I lost a few things (running certain apps and games), but I gained a heckuva lot of great things in return (namely efficiency and comparatively rock-solid stability). The new board promises to offer the same kind of net gain. It is coming to full fruition, if a bit fitfully. (Keep the hamster well fed and everything will be fine. :D)

Thankyou, Wardsweb, for your concise explaination of the practical impediments to saving the inevitably doomed data from the last couple of weeks of the old board's tenure. You're correct, it is preferable to have a slightly disrupted AK available to all of us, than nothing at all for who knows how long (though the net result is the same). Besides, you have enough plates spinning as it is. I'm grateful for the diligence and dedication you, Kam and the others have exhibited throughout the move. :thmbsp:

I dunno. Maybe my gripey-ness comes from the fact that I joined AK a little over 4 months ago and have become very comfortable with it, not realizing that the BBS has been around for quite a spell and was getting very long in the tooth, and that the poor server hosting it is about ready for the glue factory! I hate to say it, Grump, but you're right - I couldn't come close to doing a better job (besides, the commute to the server site would be a real bitch), and I'm essentially whining about a free, gourmet feast, and we're only in the middle of the first course. :beer:

My only hope is that the old server stays online for a little while longer than planned. I'm going to be rather busy for the next few weeks, and I don't know if I'll have enough time to browse the new board and search all the forums on the old server for doomed threads and posts that I want to transfer or keep. Thanks. ;)

Anymore whining and it's 40 lashes with a wet noodle!

AnthonyOh, Anthony. :whip: You're such a flirt! (Heh, heh, 'pasta S & M' :naughty: )

:beerchug:
-AlphaLima

Thank You AlphaLimaXray - This thread could have gone bad easily. Your reply brings us all back down to "it's cool".

Thankyou, Wardsweb, for your concise explaination of the practical impediments to saving the inevitably doomed data from the last couple of weeks of the old board's tenure. You're correct, it is preferable to have a slightly disrupted AK available to all of us, than nothing at all

I hate to say it, Grump, but you're right - I couldn't come close to doing a better job


I second that emotion!!!!!!! :thmbsp: :thmbsp:

Ah, the new site having a bit of birth trauma. It's taken me a few days to figure my way around it too, but I think it looks awesome and a big Thank You! goes to everyone who made it possible! :thmbsp:

Looks great. So far it has worked great for me also.
Thank you

My turn to complain!! I know I said I wouldn't, but now with so many others doing it, I am adding my 3 Centavos:

I am really irritated that I am forced to click my mouse on every page. I expect the cursor to follow the path of my retina and select an option when I blink! When you move to an OS that can handle that, please let me know.

May I make a suggestion about the quote feature?

In the old BBS, other than "quote:" at the top, quotes were preceded and ended by just a horizontal line, the "Originally posted by [member name]" was in simple italics, and the text was in bold, preserving the italics of the original post. This was necessary since, besides everything being slightly indented to the right, there was nothing else to distinguish it from the quoter's text.

However, in the new BBS, the quotes are not only framed, but have a differently colored background to distinguish it from the rest of the post. Thus, there's really no need to alter how the quoted text looks. Bold and italics are usually used for emphasis (I use it all the time ;)) and it would be best to preserve such subtleties from the original post now that the quote appears in its own, very distinct field. The original poster took the trouble to include it, why needlessly override it? Likewise, I think the quote intro should read "Originally posted by [member name]:" (notice the colon at the end) to distinguish it from the quote, itself (and to make it more grammatically correct).

I hope such a change merely involves a little tweaking, not some major undertaking. Thanks. :thmbsp:

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-AlphaLima

My turn to complain!! I know I said I wouldn't, but now with so many others doing it, I am adding my 3 Centavos:

I am really irritated that I am forced to click my mouse on every page. I expect the cursor to follow the path of my retina and select an option when I blink! When you move to an OS that can handle that, please let me know.Sorry, mg, but AK deals with (among other things) quadraphonics, not quadriplegics! :tongue:
Hey, when I read Leticia Casta's book, I wanted her to marry me and be the mother of my children, but that's... not likely to happen. :sigh:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
(ahem) Excuse me. (sniff)

Anyway, we all must deal with life's not-so-little disappointments, from time to time. ;)

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-AlphaLima

As i discover more new features, i must say that i have not thanked the administrators and staff enough.

Thank you, you are the life force of AK(obviously) and you deserve more credit and thanks for your work. Major thanks to all the admins and staff that worked on this upgrade! you are the best of the best of the best. So....Thanks again! :banana:

Hey, all. I was wondering how members can alter their avatar titles/status names (i.e. "Registered User," and the like), an available option to all but junior members in the old BBS? I want to put something other than "Digital-to-Analog Convert" up under my name, but I can't find any way to do this. :dunno: Is this option available or on the agenda? Thanks for all your hard work! ;)

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-AlphaLima

If you keep along the same path I'm sure that your "digital-to-analog" will change. :smoke:

I am a registered user. I was a senior member. I could be illustrious potentate. It wouldn't change a thing.

If you keep along the same path I'm sure that your "digital-to-analog" will change. :smoke: Wow, Ski, that sounds perfectly ominous. Changed to what, "Forum Malcontent"? :saywhat: I'm merely asking a question, not launching into a diatribe. :rolleyes:

And, yes, it would be a real pity if members were no longer afforded the option of customizing their status/avatar titles. : :worried:

Besides, the designation "Registered User" seems more appropriate for a methadone clinic than in a highly-regarded audio forum. ;)

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-AlphaLima

I agree. We're going to have to come up with some clever user titles :yes:

I didn't mean for it to sound ominous. It sounded funny and slurred to me at the time. :beer:

I agree. We're going to have to come up with some clever user titles :yes::eek: (gulp!)

I mean, :thmbsp:

(Please be gentle with me.) :D
It sounded funny and slurred to me at the time. :beer:Heh. "I'm not as think as you drunk I am!" :huge:
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-AlphaLima

So what are the "Reputation Points" all about? How do you earn and award them?

-Dave

I agree. We're going to have to come up with some clever user titles :yes:

"dangling participant" is a play on --- participle I think, and I ought to put Harold Lloyd in my avatar, except I swear Andyman found him already :cry:

I can think up a new signature without much trouble but then I tend to write better closing lines that ought to be signatures too. What really matters are the words that fill each post and how good/useful/encouraging they are.