View Full Version : Hey you, change your signature now....


donberry
10-07-2009, 10:49 PM
this was brought up in a different post, another topic, but i believe is something that would really be useful - no need to list it all as many probably have too much to list, but if everyone would list at least their main equipment used in their signatures. Only takes a minute to do it, is pretty painless and in my humble opinion, can be some very useful information. Is not for comparing or bragging rights (however good you think your stereo is, chances are there are a whole bunch of people on here with something better as many have some absolutely amazing equipment that I would normally drool over but would be afraid the drool would land on their equipment). Is just information that i often find very useful when reading opinions etc.....

fastbike
10-08-2009, 08:34 AM
My home theater setup is fixed. But many of the other 50 or so pieces of electronics get rotated.

I'm still working toward my favorite. Doesn't even consider the 6 tube kits waiting to be built or the 2 in process speaker build or, or, or.

I'm a bit short on tube gear but frankly, as much as I love my vintage stuff, none of it has made me think the Parasound 7100/5250 combo in the H.T. should be replaced.

similost
10-08-2009, 08:38 AM
Even nicer than having a sig with your gear in it, would be if more people would at least list a state or country for a location if nothing else..

ec1st
10-08-2009, 08:53 AM
It looks like you're getting a lot of readers but no responders. You deserve a response. I can only speak for myself on this issue, so here goes.

Your idea would be very interesting in a world populated with honest and honorable people. However, this is the internet, and I personally cannot believe that everybody that cruises through this and other similar sites is just passingly curious about treasures amassed, modest though they may be. There has to be a reason we have to log in to sites and fortify our 'puters with antivirus software and spyware detectors. Personally I don't make a practice of posting a list of my acquisitions. I mean, how am I supposed to protect my complete collection of vintage assorted 1970s Tarzan paperback novels? I hope you understand.

spartanmanor
10-08-2009, 08:55 AM
Agreed. The more info the better when trying to help your fellow man......or woman.

Redboy
10-08-2009, 08:59 AM
Okay, but mine changes a bunch...

Earlier today:No worries, just music.
...

Prior to that:Now Playing:
Tannolks (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180935) > Doorbell wire (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195776)> Pilot SA-260 > S&B TX-102 > CA 640P > Empire 208 (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1148) > Clearaudio Satisfy Ebony (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196315) > Grado Reference Sonata


You'll notice that you can embed links within your signature, which is something I wish more people would do.

devnull
10-08-2009, 09:03 AM
Sometimes I glance through sigs, but more often I do not. As much as anything else I'll check out a sig to see if it matches the tone of the opinion being offered. The gargantuan ones where people create an image and attempt to extract as much area from the screen as possible are annoying. I use a screen resolution of 1900x1200, and if an image is annoying at that resolution, I can only imagine what it looks like on a 1024x768, 1280x1024 or whatever. It must look *huge* there.

Hmmnn...I haven't looked, but I believe that Adblock could probably be used to block sig images. Might be the way to go.

In my little slice o' reality, AK would be the same whether sigs are here or not.

John

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 09:03 AM
I completely agree. I often look for advice and information on this site and knowing somebody's general taste in gear really helps put any information in context.

That said...mine's not up to date! The preamp listed is at my tech, the tube amp on the shelf...but it's what I would be running if the preamp were back home where it belongs.

Redboy
10-08-2009, 09:16 AM
Hmmnn...I haven't looked, but I believe that Adblock could probably be used to block sig images. Might be the way to go. Hey John, you could just change your preferences in your User CP. I don't like those giant pictures, either.

71Challenger
10-08-2009, 09:19 AM
I've been looking for an excuse to change my sig. Just need a kick in the ... now and then.

botrytis
10-08-2009, 09:23 AM
I have too much too list and really like the sig I have.

RayW
10-08-2009, 09:28 AM
Is just information that i often find very useful when reading opinions etc.....

Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?

I figure each opinion counts as one opinion. What a person happens to own at this particular point in time doesn't tell the whole story, or even enough to really know where they're coming from. Take for example, Tom Brennan. Looking at his sig you would see that he has Martin Logan electrostatic tweeters. If he were to trash some horns you would be tempted to think "well, he's a planar guy and just hates all horns". However, that doesn't tell the part of the story where he ran big Altecs for years, loved them, and only gave them up because he moved to a smaller living space (a deeeluxe apartment in the sky). He knows tons about horns and his opinion should carry weight on that topic but you wouldn't know it based on what he's listening to right now.

I find it more useful to read and get to know the poster rather than his gear. I put song lyrics in my sig because I think they give a lot more insight into who I am than what I happen to be listening to, equipment wise, at the moment.

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 09:34 AM
Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?

I figure each opinion counts as one opinion. What a person happens to own at this particular point in time doesn't tell the whole story, or even enough to really know where they're coming from. Take for example, Tom Brennan. Looking at his sig you would see that he has Martin Logan electrostatic tweeters. If he were to trash some horns you would be tempted to think "well, he's a planar guy and just hates all horns". However, that doesn't tell the part of the story where he ran big Altecs for years, loved them, and only gave them up because he moved to a smaller living space (a deeeluxe apartment in the sky). He knows tons about horns and his opinion should carry weight on that topic but you wouldn't know it based on what he's listening to right now.

I find it more useful to read and get to know the poster rather than his gear. I put song lyrics in my sig because I think they give a lot more insight into who I am than what I happen to be listening to, equipment wise, at the moment.

But those song lyrics don't clue me in to the fact that you can build speakers shaped like toad stools. That's info I can really use. :)

Those are all good points, Ray...nobody would know that I've owned 30 1970's solid state receivers by my sig, they'd think I was a tube guy when I really kind of like everything.

donberry
10-08-2009, 09:45 AM
Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?
well, it could just be me, but in a way, yes it does. It does not mean that persons opinion is not as valid as the rest, but it could weight my opinion.
Example - maybe I am interested in buying a Sansui amp and I get a bunch of opinions about it - I glance thru the sig and notice that a few of the people who say it is great own nothing but Sansui - or on the flip side, they own all Pioneer, Kenwood etc....I believe audio is a pretty subjective matter and what I like you may not. Would I give more weight to the person who owned various types of gear then to someone who owned nothing but Sansui ?

Has happened to me a few times. I asked about various things(not sansui, I just used that for an example) and just got absolute raves about it, best thing I will ever own. Turns out I did not care for it at all. I would guess that the majority of people responding were collectors of that specific brand. Not saying they were wrong, could be the best thing I ever had and I jst have a tin ear.

Also, how many people come on here and ask about buying something. Usually the first few responses are, what type of speakers do you have, what type of amp etc etc - pretty much follows a pattern. After a bunch of questions determining what they own, then people start recommending good or not, unless it is a collector of that type of gear.
If someone asks me if a Spec 2 is worth buying, I am going to drool all over it and say yes, run, don't walk. But if they glance down at my sig, they may notice I have all Pioneer gear - chances are I am going to say yes, go get it.But if another person has reservations, and they happen to own say sansui, kenwood and Pioneer gear - his opinion may be a little less biased then mine

Just my opinion and I am often wrong.

doucanoe
10-08-2009, 09:46 AM
Using the same logic, one would have to make the assumption that the gear listed in their signature was really what they were running.

One suggestion, maybe message the individual in regard to a response you have read. Most here would be pleased to tell you how they they came to that opinion. I would have to believe that it would be a much more reliable method to gather info. as opposed to relying on a list of equipment shown.

I do know what you are saying though, it does help put things into perspective, somewhat.

RC

Brett a
10-08-2009, 09:49 AM
Funny you should start this thread.
I raised the same issues last spring:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219762
but recently took my gear off my sig, (but left a link to pictures and info about it). I guess i just got sick of looking at it.

Just last night, i was planning to put it back up. i think I will now.

...

JoeESP9
10-08-2009, 09:53 AM
Well, I do both. My gear selection is quite stable. I don't have a stack of things to switch in and out. One good sounding system is my goal.
If you're in or near Philadelphia stop on by.

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 10:01 AM
Well, I do both. My gear selection is quite stable. I don't have a stack of things to switch in and out. One good sounding system is my goal.
If you're in or near Philadelphia stop on by.

I was recently thinking of buying a pair of Dyna MKIIIs to mate with my ARC Sp-3...and by your signature, if I asked opinions about that combo, I'd really pay attention to what you had to say.

Just one instance of how it can help.

golana
10-08-2009, 10:17 AM
I had mine up there, but I agree with Ray. Took mine off awhile ago, what I have hooked up now is of no consistancy to what i listened to last year or 5 years ago. I might coment on your Sansui as crap and falling apart, you look down and say "what does he know, does'nt own a thing" I might be more have a ton more wheight to my insight, than someone who "scroed[ugly word"] last week and thinks it is the monkeys snot, because he owned a York reciever with Craig speeks, before this. I don't mind large pictures in threads, but can't stand them in signatures.

just to add, I like Sansui, Craig, York. If it makes music...

Hyperion
10-08-2009, 10:23 AM
Just updated mine - before I read any of the threads on the subject :yes:


There you go..... :thmbsp:

JoeESP9
10-08-2009, 10:30 AM
I was recently thinking of buying a pair of Dyna MKIIIs to mate with my ARC Sp-3...and by your signature, if I asked opinions about that combo, I'd really pay attention to what you had to say.

Just one instance of how it can help.

At one time I was running an SP-3 with the MK-III's into a pair of Maggy MG-1's. They worked quite well together. That combination had a major effect on everything I've had since then. This is evident by looking at my current gear selection.

In their present state my MK-III's have only the transformers in common with their original condition.

KeninDC
10-08-2009, 10:46 AM
I should do it, especially since I pontificate about what sounds good in the Music Forum.

That being said, I have two different systems (three is you count work, four if you count the garage) and I always tell you if I listened in my car (got two of those).

I think an equipment profile link on each user would be cool.

Ken

devnull
10-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?

I figure each opinion counts as one opinion. What a person happens to own at this particular point in time doesn't tell the whole story, or even enough to really know where they're coming from.

I am in total agreement here. Someone who supports their opinion with a well written explanation as to why they feel the way they do about a particular topic are the ones I will lend consideration.

When I mentioned I glance at a sig to determine if it reflects the tone of someone's post, it is just that, as I put far more credence into their opinion than what they own. Then again, the OP wasn't really indicating it was an either/or proposition, either. Some will use sigs as a guide, some won't.

I find it more useful to read and get to know the poster rather than his gear. I put song lyrics in my sig because I think they give a lot more insight into who I am than what I happen to be listening to, equipment wise, at the moment.

That plays quite a role in how I interpret what I read on AK. Knowing various users' preferences and positions from their previous posts forms a context from which one can understand their opinions.

Hey John, you could just change your preferences in your User CP. I don't like those giant pictures, either.

I'll have to check that out. I have to admit I haven't really looked at the user CP very closely. Thanks!

John

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 10:59 AM
I should do it, especially since I pontificate about what sounds good in the Music Forum.


Ken

I think in the music forums it might help more to list what kind of music you're into. When somebody that likes, say, Diana Krall recommends something to me, I'd know to be wary because I don't like her. And they wouldn't listen to my recommendations for the same reason! :music:

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 11:00 AM
At one time I was running an SP-3 with the MK-III's into a pair of Maggy MG-1's. They worked quite well together. That combination had a major effect on everything I've had since then. This is evident by looking at my current gear selection.

In their present state my MK-III's have only the transformers in common with their original condition.

Thank you for the info. Yeah, my opinion on MK-IIIs is also based on a modded pair, and the pair I'm looking at are stock so I don't know if it's even apples to apples.

Brett a
10-08-2009, 11:02 AM
Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?

I am in total agreement here. Someone who supports their opinion with a well written explanation (...)

You guys make some good points, but how many people down-grade their systems as time go by? I mean, your current set up may have different brands or even styles of gear in it now, but I'd assume the overall level of refinement is consistent.

I find gear lists useful in getting a general sense where someone's point of reference is. When a person talks about openness or dynamics, i like to know if they are running a Soundesign all-in-one system or a Mark Levinson set-up powering Wilson Watt Puppies.

Also, as others have pointed out, there are many of us here who don't make changes to our systems very often.

Brett a
10-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I have too much too list and really like the sig I have.

"Resentment is like taking poison yourself and waiting for the other guy to die."

-Carrie Fisher


That's a good one. It reminds me of the analogy of holding a hot ember; If you're standing there seething with judgment about someone or something YOU"RE the only one suffering; it's likes standing there holding a burning ember. You can choose to set it down and stop hurting yourself.

Excellent sig, thanks.

MunkeyQ
10-08-2009, 11:07 AM
I find it useful to know someone's setup if they post about a future purchase of gear for example...that way you can tell the person if it's likely to work well with their existing setup.

Which reminds me...I need to update my signature as my setup's changed!

thevic24
10-08-2009, 11:45 AM
ok i changed it.

i just got my gfa 555II back from having it restored/upgraded.
i was using the hk 3940 for the upper end on the kappas but now iam using the gfa 545II for the upper and the 555II for the low end duties.
the sound is outstanding and i seem to have more head room than a box van.
i also have a minty set of infinity cs3006's that i put into use for the extended jamming sessions.

ive been trying diffrent equipment for a while and think i have found the one for me now.:smoke:

SpeakerLabFan
10-08-2009, 11:58 AM
I try to list everything that I have that I think is tasty gear. I have 4 rooms setup but I'm not running everything in my signature. I've thought about changing the signature to a listing of a current system or two. :scratch2:

Even nicer than having a sig with your gear in it, would be if more people would at least list a state or country for a location if nothing else..

:yes: geez, at least a state or geographic region. I think location information at times helps provide context and insights - depends on the discussion of course.

hobie1dog
10-08-2009, 11:59 AM
I have tried to put it on there but the message keeps coming back saying i have too many lines or characters , when I know I don't......I'm doing something wrong.

JohnVF
10-08-2009, 12:11 PM
I have tried to put it on there but the message keeps coming back saying i have too many lines or characters , when I know I don't......I'm doing something wrong.

You can put a longer signature on when you're a subscriber than you can as a member, not sure what the member limit is but it's just a little shorter than what mine currently is.

botrytis
10-08-2009, 12:13 PM
That's a good one. It reminds me of the analogy of holding a hot ember; If you're standing there seething with judgment about someone or something YOU"RE the only one suffering; it's likes standing there holding a burning ember. You can choose to set it down and stop hurting yourself.

Excellent sig, thanks.

Well, I saw her in a one woman show - Wishful Drinking and it is a quote from the show. It really stuck in my head. Great and funny show!!

BigManAndy
10-08-2009, 12:38 PM
I think its a great idea!

A similar thread earlier in the year talked me into doing so.

fotno
10-08-2009, 12:50 PM
Nothing against gear siglines or those who have them, but they're just not for me. I much prefer a humorous anecdote or profound (or even silly) quote. For me, gear sigs tell me no more about another member than reading their grocery lists.

Holst
10-08-2009, 12:53 PM
I like Nates idea about linking your gear sig to pictures.

HandyHamlet
10-08-2009, 12:57 PM
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/hhamlet/Picture-1-1.jpg

I know I did.

House de Kris
10-08-2009, 01:05 PM
I tried to a long time ago, but it was over the 400 character limit. I think that limit has since been downgraded to 100 characters for us non-paying members. And, I wasn't listing everything I own, just the main system.

Brett a
10-08-2009, 01:29 PM
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/hhamlet/Picture-1-1.jpg

I know I did.

I don't get it. You know you did what? Who is this guy, what's he doing, and what
s it got to do with putting your gear in your sig?
:dunno:

HandyHamlet
10-08-2009, 01:40 PM
I put my gear in my signature. I edited my location per suggestions posted here.

Mel Gibson.
He is yelling for you to obey the title of this post.

I am lightly making fun of the thread while complying with the OP at the same time.

Brett a
10-08-2009, 01:41 PM
I put my gear in my signature. I edited my location per suggestions posted here.

Mel Gibson.
He is yelling for you to obey the title of this post.

I am lightly making fun of the thread while complying with the OP at the same time.
Thanks. I really was curious.
:)

HandyHamlet
10-08-2009, 01:52 PM
My pleasure.

I don't get me either.

motorstereo
10-08-2009, 03:36 PM
There's a vintage audio place right down the street from me. Just yesterday 3 pieces went out and 2 different ones came back. Last weekend 4 pieces left and 2 new ones came back. I think I'll pass on trying to keep a sig updated.

Dr. Music
10-08-2009, 04:34 PM
Why? Does someone's opinion hold more weight because they have expensive gear? Or vintage gear? Tubes or SS?

I figure each opinion counts as one opinion. What a person happens to own at this particular point in time doesn't tell the whole story, or even enough to really know where they're coming from. Take for example, Tom Brennan. Looking at his sig you would see that he has Martin Logan electrostatic tweeters. If he were to trash some horns you would be tempted to think "well, he's a planar guy and just hates all horns". However, that doesn't tell the part of the story where he ran big Altecs for years, loved them, and only gave them up because he moved to a smaller living space (a deeeluxe apartment in the sky). He knows tons about horns and his opinion should carry weight on that topic but you wouldn't know it based on what he's listening to right now.

I find it more useful to read and get to know the poster rather than his gear. I put song lyrics in my sig because I think they give a lot more insight into who I am than what I happen to be listening to, equipment wise, at the moment.

I like looking at fellow AKer's sigs, regardless of whether they post gear or a quote or whatever.

To me, basing the worth of someone else's opinion on what they have in their sig is snobbish. For instance, looking at my sig people can see I'm a Technics fan and have been since the 70's. Those who hate Technics stuff might sniff their noses in the air and conclude what I have to say is is 'unworthy' of their attention. Some people base their opinions on a brand from having owned one representative of that brand, and in some cases it might be BPC or the brand's BOTL equipment. I own and use equipment made by Technics, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony, Sennheiser, Paradigm, Infinity, Velodyne, Sanyo, Nakamechi, Pinnacle, Definitive Technology, Klipsch and Onkyo. I've tried or have been around lots of other brands of equipment in 50 years, too, but since that isn't in my sig, it would appear I never did or never was. Just because I don't own, say, Carver, Philips, Hitachi, Yamaha, Harmon Kardon, McIntosh, Akai, DCM, Dahlquist or Sansui doesn't mean I wouldn't like to or never have.

I'm like Ray in the respect that I base my opinions not on what they are currently running but also who they present themselves to be in the forum. I love most ALL vintage equipment that is made well and sounds good, and enjoy learning about their stuff. Hell, people have been posting threads about 8 track players of late and its been fun reading them, because it was a medium people like me used 30 and more years ago. I don't have a turntable up and running because I don't want to deal with vinyl, but I ran vinyl for 30 years. Sure, I like seeing what other people have up and running, but I'm not going to scoff at what they have to say because they don't have a Holy Grail piece in their system. Just because someone else is using equipment that I'm not doesn't mean they have no clue what does or doesn't sound good. How much money someone has or doesn't have isn't relevant to me, and a person's sig may be nothing more than one way for a person to show how wealthy they are. I have all the regard in the world for great equipment, but thats not going to influence my opinion of this or that AK poster. We make an impression by what we have to say. All this might sound a little Utopian, but I think that's the idea behind this site, all members being equal and respecting each other regardless of what they use to listen to music.

kdbgoat
10-08-2009, 06:20 PM
Might as well throw in my .02 I think it's a matter of preference weather or not a person lists their equipment. Some of us don't have the money some others have, or simply like a more moderate system that suits their ear. I hardly have time to read new posts and be able to reply once in a while, the lack of an avatar goes with this. When one asks for another's opinion they have to realise they will be getting an opinion, and that answer may not be based on facts (that's why they call it an opinion). As for my equipment list none of it would probably impress a lot of people, but it suits my ear and plenty of others as well. I don't invest a lot of money in my stuff. The most I've paid was $100 for a pair of CV D-7s that needed refoaming. Most of my stuff comes from dumpster diving. Another case in point is that people that like a particular brand can be prejudiced. Found a Marantz 2215 in trash that needed work, opinions that I read said it was a good sounding unit. A friend of a friend brought one to my place to listen to. Hooked it to JBL L40s, DA D-6s, And Soundcraftsmen Lancers. Wasn't impressed. He though I was crazy until I ran a Marantz Sr 325 (considered junk) and a Technics SA 150 (both are just used to test stuff) through the same speakers and they both sounded better to us than the2215. Note I said US, not everybody would agree. The 2215 I have will now be used for trading material. If one listed junk such as this with sig, would anybody pay attention to that that person, I don't think so.
Sorry about the lengthy post, but just giving my opinion!:D

Justen
10-08-2009, 06:23 PM
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else owns. Or if you approve of what I have.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 06:41 PM
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else owns. Or if you approve of what I have.

Armageddon is nigh- I agree with this.

Justen
10-08-2009, 07:53 PM
Armageddon is nigh- I agree with this.

My feet are getting cold. Surely hell is freezing over.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 07:56 PM
My feet are getting cold. Surely hell is freezing over.

They should warm up nicely when the Molotov cocktail lights up the old trailer house, bucko.

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:02 PM
They should warm up nicely when the Molotov cocktail lights up the old trailer house, bucko.

Like you'd pry your hands off the likker bottle long enough to light and toss it.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:03 PM
Like you'd pry your hands off the likker bottle long enough to light and toss it.

Exactly why I always have two, Einstein.

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:16 PM
Exactly why I always have two, Einstein.

You know, you have to leave alcohol in the bottle to make a Molotov. Not much of a chance of THAT happening in you're involved.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Dear Lord, try to keep up here, sport- one gets EMPTIED, then refilled with avgas; the other gets the seal cracked to watch the festivities. I know multi-stage processes overwhelm you, but try, at least.

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Take one drunk, cranky old bastard, add two parts avgas and one lighter and I'm going to be the one watching the festivities. Remember to stop, drop and roll. Don't worry, I'll piss on you to put out any extra flames.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:27 PM
You have a better chance of seeing God tonight.

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:28 PM
And it's common knowledge you only ever piss in your own pockets.

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:30 PM
You have a better chance of seeing God tonight.

Why? You going to be too busy molesting MarkAnderson again?

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:34 PM
Now you've gone from your usual dull-normal all the way back to creepy delusional. Your mama really DIDN'T want you, did she?

markus
10-08-2009, 08:38 PM
There's a vintage audio place right down the street from me. Just yesterday 3 pieces went out and 2 different ones came back. Last weekend 4 pieces left and 2 new ones came back. I think I'll pass on trying to keep a sig updated.

hey I resemble that remark . . . .

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:41 PM
Your mama really DIDN'T want you, did she?

C'mon up to the trailer park so I can kick your ass for that one, skin smoker.

kermit z
10-08-2009, 08:44 PM
Anywho.....Post up in your sig if you want to, if you don't then don't.

I like looking at the sigs to see what folks have. Thats not to say I want to see if my stuff is better than anyone elses (Its not)

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:44 PM
C'mon up to the trailer park so I can kick your ass for that one, skin smoker.

Now, we both know you'd be at least 6 counties away by the time I hit the Georgia line. And, for the record, I'm very ashamed of you for hijacking this thread.

derekva
10-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Change the signature rules to allow > 150 characters and I will. As it stands, I can't fit my system into that pigeonhole.

-D

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Now, we both know you'd be at least 6 counties away by the time I hit the Georgia line. And, for the record, I'm very ashamed of you for hijacking this thread.

It's going to take a while for you to get here on your likkercycle.


And I'm sure you are.

markus
10-08-2009, 08:53 PM
Justen - dude - you should hang out over on AA - you'd fit right in . . .

Justen
10-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Justen - dude - you should hang out over on AA - you'd fit right in . . .

You sayin' I don't fit in here?

tentoze
10-08-2009, 08:55 PM
Justen - dude - you should hang out over on AA - you'd fit right in . . .

I've tried to convince him of that over and over- boy's thick as a wedge.

markus
10-08-2009, 08:57 PM
You sayin' I don't fit in here?

I'm saying you're being a troll and aren't actually contributing to the thread

HandyHamlet
10-08-2009, 09:00 PM
:lurk:

Justen
10-08-2009, 09:10 PM
I'm saying you're being a troll and aren't actually contributing to the thread

I gave an honest opinion, and I'm a troll?

All the rest is verbal backwash.

Art K.
10-08-2009, 10:00 PM
I'm saying, that's the funniest exchange I've read today...I think I pissed my pants twice reading it...or maybe I just spilled the liquor bottle!

sipuser
10-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Man I haven't laugh this hard all week, too funny guys.

thanks for the laughs.

Mike Gibson
10-08-2009, 11:10 PM
The reason I list my gear in my signature is I feel validated by letting others know what I own. I own, therefore I am.

~Maxx
10-08-2009, 11:24 PM
Man I haven't laugh this hard all week, too funny guys.

thanks for the laughs.

Yep... I just woke the baby up laughing at that exchange. I'll expect the two of you here within the hour to sing her back to sleep! :D Funny stuff guys!

As far as the OP... I always considered the sig space more an opportunity to add a personal touch to your posts. Weather you choose to do that by listing gear, quoting songs, or telling jokes has never made any difference to me. I enjoy reading it all the same. Besides - unless this forum suddenly becomes a hot spot for out-dated digital mixing boards, control surfaces, drum machines, and MIDI controllers my sig would just be full of gear that most folks here wouldn't know or care about anyway. But I do like the idea of linking to a photo album. Perhaps I'll do that...

Art K.
10-08-2009, 11:43 PM
The reason I list my gear in my signature is I feel validated by letting others know what I own. I own, therefore I am.

Absolutely. I wanna be like Mike!

Mike Gibson
10-08-2009, 11:48 PM
Absolutely. I wanna be like Mike!

Me too Art, the only time I can dribble is after I've seen the Dentist.

Art K.
10-08-2009, 11:50 PM
Me too Art, the only time I can dribble is after I've seen the Dentist.

I do a bit after I've had a few or I burn my mouth on a burrito...like tonight...after a few.

mulester7
10-09-2009, 12:00 AM
.....I wish all members would put their age on their public profiles....it could only help what you post to be understood....but hey, I wish a lot of stuff.....

HandyHamlet
10-09-2009, 12:25 AM
.....I wish all members would put their age on their public profiles....it could only help what you post to be understood....but hey, I wish a lot of stuff.....

Jeeze... How's this mulester7?


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blackfly
10-09-2009, 08:27 PM
Personally I think the idea is grand. I think looking at someone's gear gives great insight to the what/where/why of points of view. Someone who is a dedicated tube fan or vinyl fan is going to be so with reason, and the gear will show this. If someone is using gear that is REALLY bottom of the barrel then suggestions on improvements/audio philosophy should be taken with a grain of salt. I have found that some of the retorts to post I made were not in my agreement and that is fine. But if it is due to reason, logic and tempered with a bit of wisdom then it adds the same. Someone making a point of view with no idea of what they are talking about only amounts to diatrabe, and sometimes it is hard to tell which is which. It is easy to say whether vinyl is better than digital, and perhaps to give a reason for it, but if you are a dedicated vinyl fan with gear to show it the point of view is hammered more solidily. Sad to say it, but what some call "bragging rights" actually can show careful decision, judgement and tempered with experience from years of being an audiophile, where certain things are learned only with time, not reading or browsing webpages.

Just me.

But as to personal info I will refuse to post anything, unless it is relevent to the conversation. How old a person is, where they live has NOTHING to do with it. Regardless of where one lives or age if they are passionate about audio they will show it with their gear in their own way.

markus
10-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Personally I think the idea is grand. I think looking at someone's gear gives great insight to the what/where/why of points of view. Someone who is a dedicated tube fan or vinyl fan is going to be so with reason, and the gear will show this. If someone is using gear that is REALLY bottom of the barrel then suggestions on improvements/audio philosophy should be taken with a grain of salt. I have found that some of the retorts to post I made were not in my agreement and that is fine. But if it is due to reason, logic and tempered with a bit of wisdom then it adds the same. Someone making a point of view with no idea of what they are talking about only amounts to diatrabe, and sometimes it is hard to tell which is which. It is easy to say whether vinyl is better than digital, and perhaps to give a reason for it, but if you are a dedicated vinyl fan with gear to show it the point of view is hammered more solidily. Sad to say it, but what some call "bragging rights" actually can show careful decision, judgement and tempered with experience from years of being an audiophile, where certain things are learned only with time, not reading or browsing webpages.

Just me.

But as to personal info I will refuse to post anything, unless it is relevent to the conversation. How old a person is, where they live has NOTHING to do with it. Regardless of where one lives or age if they are passionate about audio they will show it with their gear in their own way.

YES ! what he said . . . . :yes:

RayW
10-09-2009, 09:06 PM
If someone is using gear that is REALLY bottom of the barrel then suggestions on improvements/audio philosophy should be taken with a grain of salt.

Have you kept an eye on the unemployment lately? I know a lot of guys who have had to sell of some top shelf gear in order to pay the rent and buy groceries. They may be left with "bottom of the barrel" but that does not diminish the fact that they have a head full of knowledge.

ricohman
10-09-2009, 09:17 PM
OK. Done and done.

NumbDiver
10-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Done. But nearly creative as my previous sig...

elgato8905
10-09-2009, 10:52 PM
I'll pass... In my opinion someones post count in combination with how long they've been a member here tells a lot more than what kind of gear they're using at any given time.

Personally my gear can switch from week to week but it's all usually really good stuff.

mulester7
10-10-2009, 12:45 AM
How old a person is, where they live has NOTHING to do with it......BlackFly, I'm only going to say, whatever.....

markus
10-10-2009, 10:04 AM
Have you kept an eye on the unemployment lately? I know a lot of guys who have had to sell of some top shelf gear in order to pay the rent and buy groceries. They may be left with "bottom of the barrel" but that does not diminish the fact that they have a head full of knowledge.

Amen !

also, you'd be SURPRISED what 'bottom of the barrel' equipment can do . . . 'course I count anything 'FREE' as bottom of the barrel :D so my current clapped together system:

Ampex fullrange drivers on JE Labs Open Baffles, running off a recapped Magnavox 93-00 P/P EL84 amp stuffed with Mullards, and running off a curb find single disc Yamaha CD Player.

The only thing in there that cost ANY money was plywood and tube amp parts (switch, fuse, etc).

Anyone that heard this setup at fcarpcarp's place last weekend knows of what I speak :music:

zenith2134
10-10-2009, 11:34 AM
I'm in. But, I quit listing my gear in the sig because some people feel that it's kind of pompous and/or annoying to do so.

AudioSoul
10-10-2009, 11:40 AM
My equipment changes so often, it does'nt make sense to post it.
I would be changing my sig all the time......:scratch2:

donberry
10-10-2009, 11:54 AM
If someone is using gear that is REALLY bottom of the barrel then suggestions on improvements/audio philosophy should be taken with a grain of salt.
I would imagine there are a whole bunch of people who have what you may consider "bottom of the barrel" equipment that know a whole lot more then I will ever know.
Again, for me has been just how unbiased opinion am I really getting, even unwittingly. Even if someone has 10,000 posts, if he owns all Pioneer gear, he may say that Sansui I am looking at is a waste of money (and vice versa). Is tube or ss gear their thing, planar or box speakers etc etc etc....
while you can often tell on something like a planar speaker, there are pieces of equipment where it ca be hard to discern.
Plus, "hey, are these speakers/amp/receiver any good" "well, what amp/receiver/speakers are you using it with"
Usually the first 3 posts after the question is asked.
I do not really want to recommend a pair of magnepan speakers if he is using a 30wpc Pioneer amp, but those HPM-100.JBL/whatever may do the job just great.

Just thought it would make life easier and save a bunch of questions. Never really expected everyone to list everything they own, mainly what they normally listen to. As many said, if some listed everything, would take an entire page just to list it all. I just list what I listen to on a daily basis, and from there if a question is asked about something I own but is not listed, I will mention I have it and my opinion on it.
Guess I thought wrong tho, tho that does happen frequently, just ask the wife....

Eagle1
10-10-2009, 12:58 PM
I'll pass... In my opinion someones post count in combination with how long they've been a member here tells a lot more than what kind of gear they're using at any given time.
I have to disagree with that opinion, but then that's your's not mine or others. Post counts and member join dates make no difference to the knowledge or contribution to the forums by fellow Aker's. That's what AK is all about, helping each other out, and any useful info in regard to their gear and location is quite benificial to troubleshoot their problem. When I'm trying to help someone with a problem I look at their gear that may cause a problem also and their location. Hell they maybe a close neighbor and I can PM them and we can get together and solve it. Good way to make new friends and hear something you haven't.

Mike Stehr
10-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Have you kept an eye on the unemployment lately? I know a lot of guys who have had to sell of some top shelf gear in order to pay the rent and buy groceries. They may be left with "bottom of the barrel" but that does not diminish the fact that they have a head full of knowledge.

Yup. A guy with knowledge can take a chance with BOTL stuff, (vintage or other) and try some things to see what happens. You never know......

For example, a good audio friend Dan when he lived up here picked up a pair of Lafayette/Criterion 100B bookshelf speakers at a yard sale or whatever for 5-10 bucks.
He listens to them, hates the sound, throws them on the back porch destined for the trash.
Before he decides to throw them away however, he figures he should pull the ten inch drivers and try them in his homemade 3.5-4 foot internal volume cabinets. See what happens.....
He had front baffles already made for ten inch drivers for use with 10" HF1016 Whiteley Stentorians. He had the Stentorians port tuned to around 35HZ with dual ports.
He swaps in the Criterion 100B woofers, and is soon explaining through emails about how these cheap Alnico Lafayette 10" drivers are kicking out amazing bass in a large cabinet tuned way below the driver's fs.

I soon visited and listened to them myself. He was right, these little 10 inchers kick out bass like a 12" woofer....or a 15" in some cases.

He and I started scrounging up more of the Criterion 10" drivers, and we went through four or six pair to get each of us a pair with matching fs.
They are around late '60's vintage, and I would guess depending how and where the speakers are stored will effect fs of the driver. Because fs between drivers can vary quite a bit.

My signature has Klipsch Cornwall and LaScala, but I also have a pair of 3.5-4 foot DIY cabinets for tweeking.
I was using B&C 12CXB's as a woofer, the Cornwall's midhorn/driver/xover, with Crite's CT125 tweeters.
I just swapped back to my Criterion 100B's in my homebrew cabs the other day. I got different baffles for 12" and 10" woofers.
I had to drop to a lower attenuation tap on the Klipsch Cornwall network autoformer, so the midhorn isn't too overbearing.

While not quite as sensitive as the B&C, the bass is just as strong and gets lower. The B&C's didn't sound too great until they were tuned around 50Hz, up around fs. (54Hz?)
The Criterion 100B's in the cabinets are port tuned to around 36Hz. The fs of each driver is in the 50-55Hz area.
And they do get lower in frequency. One would think there would be strange peaks tuning way below fs, but I can't hear any sort of strange peaking.
I did when I had the B&C's tuned below fs at around 35Hz, they just didn't sound right until tuned higher towards fs.
I left in the same amount of polyfil in the cabinets. 2.5-3 pounds for each cabinet.

The Criterion 100B runs right up to 8kHz, they can be used as a two-way.
I think I prefer them as a woofer.

The 10" woofers to mesh up better with the Cornwall midhorns and Crites tweeters from a tonal standpoint to me, more lively with lower bass.

Nonetheless, you never know what happens.

Without the knowledge, I'd still be listening to a boombox.

Sir MLS
10-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Decided to sell my Pro-Ject and going to make due with a Technics SL-5 for a while.

Scott

blackfly
10-10-2009, 07:36 PM
[QUOTE=elgato8905;3096555]I'll pass... In my opinion someones post count in combination with how long they've been a member here tells a lot more than what kind of gear they're using at any given time.

QUOTE]

Totally irrelevant. You are saying that someone of 80 years of life who only finds out about this site has nothing to say? You forget everyone was new to this site at one time, including themselves. And some people spend HOURS posting to rack up the numbers...

"That which counts often cannot be counted, but that which can be counted seldom ever counts" Albert Einstein.

gonner
10-11-2009, 06:27 AM
keeps tellin me i cant use more than 150 characters, thats why i dont list my gear

JoeESP9
10-11-2009, 08:15 PM
Some of you are missing the point of Donberry's original post. It wasn't about listing every single piece of gear you've collected and socked away over a 10 year period. It was about what you use on a daily basis to listen to music. I to have several closets full of gear I've collected in 43 years of involvement with this hobby. I wouldn't even try to list any of it. A want people to know what I actually use to listen to music. It helps validate and explain some, if not all of my NSHO's.

Changing gear really frequently says you aren't satisfied with what you have and/or use IMNSHO.