View Full Version : What do you guys think of the Brian Wilson Smile release?


centaurus3200
10-23-2004, 06:00 PM
hi all,

i actually still need to buy the cd, but my friend brought it over for a preview. it was lots of fun to compare brian and van dyke's take on the project in 2004 compared to my bootleg of the smile recordings circa 1966.

we both had no idea what to expect. brian has never been one to discuss hardships of his past, let alone immerse himself purposely in it for a year. it does seem he has put his demons to rest and revisited smile with the goal of vindicating the project as visionary and not the rambling of a depressed drug addict. no, i am not saying this about him, just paraphrasing some old criticism of his smile sessions.

the most exciting part was comparing certain "experimental" pieces on the bootleg such as fire, wind, etc. to the finished piece, mrs. oleary's cow and blue hawaii. for 38 years people have either thought these songs were sounds of a lost soul or really advanced. don't know if what we hear today would have been brian's intention all that while ago, but i bet it's not far off. point being many were hypothesizing about NOTHING. these "odd sounds" were no more than "modular" recordings intended for the finished oleary's cow and blue hawaii. so, of course they sounded wierd by themselves and not together.

on the down side, brain's voice is obviously not what it once was. rolling stone magazine called the recording a classic (5 stars), but questioned whether brian should have left the vocal duties to darian and crew and just produced it instead. i disagree. sure, there are lots of people who can evoke a young brian better than himself, but this was something he HAD to do to lay the pain of smile to rest. besides, he still sings beautifully and can hit the notes, allbeit with a little more grain.

one can only imagine how the finished smile orchestration would have sounded with the original beachboys, but this SMiLE is still a gift to us all.

which brings me to the most important aspect. smile was always intended to be a fun pop record recorded in a disjunct modular sort of way to create a roller coaster of sound. meaning there are so many different musical verses within each piece that it's like a aural coaster ride! beyond anything else, smile was supposed to make you smile! whereas the bootleg of piecemeal images almost created a tortured and saddened experience, brian wilson presents SMiLE is pure joy!

what do you all think?

see ya,
Robby

Celt
10-23-2004, 06:59 PM
I got my copy a few weeks ago. Sure, some of the material hasn't aged all that well, but it's a fun romp! His current band plays great, his voice is still charming and youthful given his years and what has happened to him. I'm glad he finally got around to finishing Smile. If anything, the new versions of "Heroes and Villians" and "Good Vibrations" is worth the price of admission. Oh! The HDCD encoding is great too!

Jace
10-23-2004, 07:43 PM
Great take on the cd Bobby! I still have not bought Smile yet, but I think I will soon. I was disappointed with "Getting In Over My Head" so I think that's why I've delayed buying Smile.

centaurus3200
10-24-2004, 03:39 PM
sure, it's sounds like hippie dippy 60's psychedelia. however, i really don't pay much attention to whether it sounds current on not, the orchestration is simply amazing.

there are a lot of young cats, even famous ones who sound quite influenced by brian and crew (radiohead, coldplay, beck, etc.), who can learn a lot about arrangment from this release. not saying those guys need help, but smile is definitely one of those albums for today's artists to study.

the thing that strikes me most is that most people equate self absorbed melencholy music with artistic intellect. where's the humor? smile is an artistic tour de force that's complete joy!

see ya,
Robby

I got my copy a few weeks ago. Sure, some of the material hasn't aged all that well, but it's a fun romp! His current band plays great, his voice is still charming and youthful given his years and what has happened to him. I'm glad he finally got around to finishing Smile. If anything, the new versions of "Heroes and Villians" and "Good Vibrations" is worth the price of admission. Oh! The HDCD encoding is great too!

dmax99
10-24-2004, 06:39 PM
I was at the store the other day,I picked it up for a moment then I put it back down.I guess I shouda bought it.David

Celt
10-24-2004, 06:45 PM
I was at the store the other day,I picked it up for a moment then I put it back down.I guess I shouda bought it.David Ah, it'll be there waitin' on ya the next time you're there!

Bob R
10-31-2004, 07:15 PM
I've given this disc a few spins and I'd recommend it to everyones collection.

Perhaps it's a little late 60'ish, but the harmonies and production are flawless.

These old fart ears think it's the cat's meow. :thmbsp:

Bigerik
10-31-2004, 09:37 PM
I was out the day it was released, TRYING to find a copy in downtown Toronto. All of the big record stores (that sell almost no records nowadays, but I digress) had been sold out within hours of it hitting the shelves. Finally found one, in a small store and paid a fortune for it. Ahhh, capitalism!
Anyway, it was worth every penny of it. great, Great GREAT album. Just couldn't get over what an awesome job he had done. I was so afraid that it would be an embarassment. That he might not be able to actually pull it off. But, boy how he did. Wow.
Then to actually experience it live too. Made it all complete. Amazing experience. Undoubtedly the finest concert I have ever attended.
Never thought I would live to see the day....
Erik

back alley
11-04-2004, 01:47 AM
yeah, i was uncertain if this would be good or not but i was sure about buying it.
first listen and i was thinking maybe a wate of money. but then i sat down and really listened and the genius of brian wilson spoke to me.
sorry, no visions or revelations, just pure enjoyment on my part.

great sound, great band.

joe