View Full Version : Need help and advice to get a high-end CD player at the price range $500-600 USD
tommydoan84 10-31-2009, 11:12 AM Guys,
I'm always into Analog world with high-end amp and turntable and barely know anything about digital world especially CD Player.
Finally, i decide to put down money to buy a decent high-end CD Player but don't know what is a good brand that give me a true and good sound of music, like my Thoren and Technics turntables, to buy around my budget of 500 to 600 bucks.
Any advice and recommendation would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance, guys :)
Suzuki 10-31-2009, 11:51 AM I suggest you visit TEAC's home page and go over TASCAM CD-01U. TASCAM is a TEAC's brand for their equipments for professional use. This model is sold for around $500 as its market price. THere's an English page. Let me know what you think of this model, please. :scratch2: TASCAM products are introduced at recording studios and broadcast stations in Japan, and their products' reliability is established, I think. =Taihei Suzuki
niklasthedol 10-31-2009, 04:19 PM Guys,
I'm always into Analog world with high-end amp and turntable and barely know anything about digital world especially CD Player.
Finally, i decide to put down money to buy a decent high-end CD Player but don't know what is a good brand that give me a true and good sound of music, like my Thoren and Technics turntables, to buy around my budget of 500 to 600 bucks.
Any advice and recommendation would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance, guys :)
What do you consider high end?
$500 will at least buy you a high end LP dust brush.
"dolph"
Art K. 10-31-2009, 05:37 PM Used Rega Apollo. They go pretty reasonable on Audiogon. Also a trade in deal presently on them brings them down to $845 brand new. Nothing at it's price can touch it IMO.
guiller 10-31-2009, 06:08 PM Real "high-end" machines go into prices with 4 or even 5 digits. An excellent (new ) CDP in your price range is the Cambridge Audio 640 C v2 (http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=99) , much praised in this and other forums for its great quality/price ratio. Some Arcam, Rega and Music Hall excellent models are also (more or less) within your budget.
Real "high-end" machines go into prices with 4 or even 5 digits. An excellent (new ) CDP in your price range is the Cambridge Audio 640 C v2 (http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=99) , much praised in this and other forums for its great quality/price ratio. Some Arcam, Rega and Music Hall excellent models are also (more or less) within your budget.
:thmbsp: Good advice. Also Rotel makes some good sounding cd players. And, surprisingly, Onkyo made an audiophile grade player last year that is in that price range, though I have not heard that one myself.
JoeESP9 10-31-2009, 06:35 PM Guys,
I'm always into Analog world with high-end amp and turntable and barely know anything about digital world especially CD Player.
Finally, i decide to put down money to buy a decent high-end CD Player but don't know what is a good brand that give me a true and good sound of music, like my Thoren and Technics turntables, to buy around my budget of 500 to 600 bucks.
Any advice and recommendation would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance, guys :)
I think you need to revise your estimation of the cost of "high end" gear. A "high end" power cable can cost >$1500. The Ayre CD player that is very popular with the high end crowd costs more than $6,000. The new Sony SACD player at $1500 is considered by many high enders to be an absolute bargain and pretty close to a steal.
chadnliz 10-31-2009, 06:51 PM You may be surprised how well a Lexicon RT10 performs, its an excellent SACD, CD, and even DVD player...........dont let the DVD fool you, this is a sleeper and used runs at or less then your budget. 2 friends of mine with "higher" end models (Marantz, Rega) have swapped their units once they did a home demo of my Lexicon.
exedotbat 10-31-2009, 06:56 PM Real "high-end" machines go into prices with 4 or even 5 digits. An excellent (new ) CDP in your price range is the Cambridge Audio 640 C v2 (http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=99) , much praised in this and other forums for its great quality/price ratio. Some Arcam, Rega and Music Hall excellent models are also (more or less) within your budget.
I picked up the 640c from audio advisor for 350.00, so far I have been really happy with it especially for the price.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CA640CV2%20%20BLK
guiller 10-31-2009, 07:13 PM I picked up the 640c from audio advisor for 350.00, so far I have been really happy with it especially for the price.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CA640CV2%20%20BLK
Yes, it is on sale down from 500 $, the regular price, due to the appearance of the new model, the 650.
Mr. Lin 10-31-2009, 07:36 PM I don't think it's necessary to dwell on the "high-end" language since he already knows what his budget is. You can spend thousands, or tens of thousands if you go the separates route and get the best transport and DAC money can currently buy. But in the OP's price range there are some wonderful sounding CD players.
I recommend you take a hard look at the Jolida 100 tube CD player. I just got one a few months ago and I love it. Although most reviews online are overwhelmingly positive, there are some detractors, which made me nervous. Having lived with the 100 for a while now I cannot understand how anyone could listen to this thing and not find it enjoyable and very musical.
My previous CDP was a used original Rega Planet. That's another good one, and I'm still upset that the transport kicked the bucket, but the Jolida is on a whole different level, that's for sure.
fastbike 10-31-2009, 09:48 PM Get an Oppo DV-980H. www.oppodigital.com. A universal player with great sound. Dare to spend less money.
djnagle 10-31-2009, 10:02 PM Might try a music server into a DAC Magic.
Dark Knight 10-31-2009, 10:08 PM Onkyo DX 7555 is in that exact price and I am VERY happy with it after about a year. However, I almost regret spending that much money on a CD system. The reason is that I can not tell the difference between that and the various systems I auditioned in the 200-300 range, as long as it has a good DAC. I must admit that as a newbie, I got caught up in the hype surrounding the release of the DX 7555. Don't get me wrong, it is fantastic. I just think I could have spent less money and not noticed the difference if I had shopped more carefully. A tough admission.
DK
nolan 10-31-2009, 10:37 PM I don't think it's necessary to dwell on the "high-end" language since he already knows what his budget is. You can spend thousands, or tens of thousands if you go the separates route and get the best transport and DAC money can currently buy. But in the OP's price range there are some wonderful sounding CD players.
I recommend you take a hard look at the Jolida 100 tube CD player. I just got one a few months ago and I love it. Although most reviews online are overwhelmingly positive, there are some detractors, which made me nervous. Having lived with the 100 for a while now I cannot understand how anyone could listen to this thing and not find it enjoyable and very musical.
My previous CDP was a used original Rega Planet. That's another good one, and I'm still upset that the transport kicked the bucket, but the Jolida is on a whole different level, that's for sure.
I agree,why is it everyone pounds their chest...look at me? Look at the stuff I own. You can be anyone on the internet,some real /some fake.:D
My ultmate CDP is the rare Sony Playstation scph-1001 in grey.:thmbsp:
nolan 10-31-2009, 10:43 PM Get an Oppo DV-980H. www.oppodigital.com. A universal player with great sound. Dare to spend less money.
That looks like a quality rig,at a great price.
djnagle 10-31-2009, 11:05 PM I just looked at the Oppo site and they say the 980 is unavailable.
nolan 10-31-2009, 11:15 PM I just looked at the Oppo site and they say the 980 is unavailable.
If you Google it,there are plenty out there.
avionic 10-31-2009, 11:20 PM One word...........Cambridge nuf said.
Cornbread 11-01-2009, 10:10 AM I just looked at the Oppo site and they say the 980 is unavailable.
Unfortunately, Oppo has discontinued the 980 and other DVD players to concentrate on Blu-ray. The 980 is an excellent sub $500 CD, SACD, DVD-Audio, and DVD player. I have A/B'd it with several first gen players and would say it is more refined and dynamic. Others who have both the 980 and "better" $500-$1,000 CDPs say the Oppo gets within 5% of what they offer, all for under $200. There are plenty that will be available on the used market.
That said, Oppo does offer the BDP-83 for $499. It does all that the 980 does and more including Blu-ray. According to many, the audio is even better than the 980 which was Oppo's top audio performer.
Tinman 11-01-2009, 10:23 AM Everyone has their opinions, and all are valid. Here's mine:
Combo players that play DVD, Bluray, etc. have a generally short (in some cases VERY short) laser life span. If you want to spend a lot of money on a CD player, do research and buy one you can get a spare optical block for. Otherwise it's a $500 throw-away.
This goes for ANY player. Find the best possible that uses an available laser assembly, and buy a spare. You'll be happier for many years.
Google is the best tool for discovering which player uses what laser and if it's "buyable".
Example: Original Rega Planet CD player. Laser is still available almost everywhere for $20. Good investment.
The Oppo decks are great, but you cannot get a laser for them. Throw-away machines. The exception to the chinese players are those that use a plain IDE PC drive as a transport. Can be fixed forever.
Take this thought with you when shopping. It's a valid one.
tommydoan84 11-03-2009, 02:01 PM wow, thanks for a lot of useful advices and recommendations for my CD player system. I just got back from a business trip so couldn't reply to all of you in time.
Yes, you're right, it's impossible to find a REAL "high-end" CD player in this price range. I totally know this fact. What i'm looking for is just another big bang of our my bucks.
After doing a little research on the recommended players in this thread, I spot out 3 of my fav systems:
1) Jolida 100A Tube CD player(My new found favourite)
2) Cambridge Audio 640 C v2 (Higly in the target)
3) TASCAM CD-01U (Still considering and compared to #2)
I really love the Jolida, but the price is roughly $950 for a used one and this is way over my current budget. This leaves me with Cambridge and Tascam.
Do you have any ideas or recommendation for me b/w these 2 choices? I kinda lean toward more to the Cambridge since i read all the good reviews about it plus it has 2 DACS for 2 channels.
For Tascam, i barely found any reviews online on this unit so i'm still a bit skeptical and put it into consideration.
Have anyone ever had experience with the TASCAM CD-01U player ?
Thanks
Panotaker 11-03-2009, 05:02 PM Since you like to play CD's, you should consider using an old computer and ripping your CD's into lossless Flac files and using the computer as a music server. That is what I do. I have my whole CD collection on a tera bite hard drive and can play any song without having to get up. I started off with a Squeezebox 3, which will sound better than most $500 CD players. I now upgraded to a Logitech Transporter which is their top of the line model. I use my Iphone as the remote running Ipeng software. That has all the album artwork on the display, and you can play whatever you want. I never even use my CD player any more.
Extra Big Al 11-09-2009, 09:18 PM Tommy,
You will likely get maximum bang per buck by buying a separate DAC and any mass market CD player with digital output that will work with your DAC. Several years back I bought a Pioneer PD-F906 100 disk player on ebay for $100. I figured it would sound crummy, but I knew it had optical digital output. It didn’t really sound crummy, just ordinary. I called the MSB Company and asked if they had any returned, sampled, scratch and dent, or "B" stock DACs that would work with the Pioneer. They sold me a "used" (looked brand new) MSB LINK DAC for $200 and they paid the freight. To my ears the MSB/Pioneer combo sounded as good through my Audio Technica Electrostatic headphones as anything I've ever heard. To my surprise, I've now put over 1,000 hours on the old Pioneer Juke Box player and it is still working good as new.
I figured since a DAC has no moving parts it will probably last a couple of decades and it will work with hundreds of CD player models. If my cheap Pioneer craps out, I'll just go to Craig's List and buy another cheap ordinary used CD player with digital output for $100, hook it up to my MSB DAC, and have great sound again. My experience with the CD players, mainly Denon, Magnavox, Pioneer, JVC, and Philips models is that they break a lot.
The main thing that makes a CD player sound good or not is the DAC section. Any really great sounding CD player must have a very good internal DAC section; hence it will probably be priced above your price range. If the mechanical CD player section fails you also lose your internal DAC. You need to first be shopping for a great DAC in the $400 or less range. If you shop carefully you can probably find a used MSB LINK for $200 or less. There may be better deals on DACs, but I'm not up to speed on what the best deal on DACs would be. I've seen new DAC's from China advertised on ebay for less than $200. You should post again and ask the Forum what the best deal on DACs might be. If you get a good DAC then you will love the sound of nearly any cheap mass market CD player even if it's dirt-cheap. You just need to be sure your DAC and CD player are compatible.
Sony Playstation One, the older one withthe L,R audio jacks on the case. $30 at a thrift.
I second what everybody is saying about a DAC and computer. The Benchmark DAC-1 used is 'in the hunt' on price and is a high end performer.
aldoallen 11-10-2009, 09:13 PM I second the DAC + DVD/CD player. I have a DAC and bought a couple of Sony DVP-S7700's off e-bay for $100+/- each. One for playing and another for backup. These were $1,200.00 machines new that I understand actually have two lasers, one for DVD and one for CD. Most people selling them do so to get a better (newer) DVD player and probably rarely used it as a cd player. They make an excellent transport for the money and are very well built. Of course if you have a DAC, you could always go the DAC + computer route in the future also.
Al
Tinman 11-11-2009, 01:17 PM The Tascam is a good choice because it uses an off the shelf (usually sony KSS) pickup.
Then throw an external dac on it and enjoy.
But pretty much ANY DCP will sound exactly the same using an external DAC.
Boonaroo 11-11-2009, 05:38 PM Used Rega Apollo. They go pretty reasonable on Audiogon. Also a trade in deal presently on them brings them down to $845 brand new. Nothing at it's price can touch it IMO.
I second Rega. I have both the Planet and Jupiter and they are rock solid. You can get one of them for a few bills and buy you a few extra cds with the life over change.
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