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BongoBill279
11-16-2009, 08:15 PM
I am looking to put together an inexpensive vintage stereo system & am very interested in Pioneer SX Receivers. Does anyone have any advice on which one to look for on eBay?

Thanks, Bill

moinau
11-16-2009, 08:23 PM
The 750 and 780 from the mid to late 70s are excellent receivers and shoul be quite inexpensive.

MAXZ28
11-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Welcome, Bill!

Alot of factors play into the equation. What size room are you setting up in? What size speakers are you going to drive? What's your idea of an inexpensive system? Budget?

In all honesty, I don't think you can go wrong with any 70's era Pioneer SX. It just depends on alot of unanswered stuff.

Please help us out by defining some more elements to your interest in vintage Pioneer...I'm certain you'll get plenty of recommendations.

A happy medium Pioneer receiver that won't break the bank would be the SX-750 or SX-850.

moinau
11-16-2009, 08:28 PM
Or you could go the Integrated Amp route with the SA 7800 and SA 8800 again from the mid 70s. Myself I presently run the SA 8800, very nice sounding Amp.

onepixel
11-16-2009, 08:35 PM
SX-1050, PL-570 and HPM-100s. The SX-1050 is less in cost than it's well sought out big brother the SX-1250, but just as beefy.

http://onepixeldesign.com/stereo/pioneer_PL570.jpg

moinau
11-16-2009, 08:44 PM
SX-1050, PL-570 and HPM-100s. The SX-1050 is less in cost than it's well sought out big brother the SX-1250, but just as beefy.

http://onepixeldesign.com/stereo/pioneer_PL570.jpg
Your PL-570 is one nice looking TT and I bet, also good sounding.
I have the same speakers and like them very much.

onepixel
11-16-2009, 08:48 PM
Your PL-570 is one nice looking TT and I bet, also good sounding.
I have the same speakers and like them very much.

Thanks, it sure was a beauty and sounded very nice with the rest of the Pioneer gear. Unfortunately I don have it any longer. I sold it after I acquired a Pioneer PLC-590.

SoCal Sam
11-16-2009, 08:49 PM
Without question, the SX-1250 and the SX-1050 are the best. The SX-1280 and the SX-1980 have output modules that if they blow are unobtanium.

moinau
11-16-2009, 09:02 PM
Thanks, it sure was a beauty and sounded very nice with the rest of the Pioneer gear. Unfortunately I don have it any longer. I sold it after I acquired a Pioneer PLC-590.
Remember those quite well from the 70s. While stationed in Germany in the 70s to early 80s, I acquired the Pioneer SA-8800, the AR10Π, the AR91, a Sansui tuner 719, and a CS704 Dual TT. I had a good look see at your ex TT but decided otherwise. Who knows if I made the right choice???

patokapirate
11-16-2009, 09:03 PM
I have a 780 and it sounds great. They were middle of the line when new and are still cost effective when compared to the much more highly sought after totl units.(the 10xx and 12xx series) And if you can get by with a lower end sx series you will have lots of bucks left over for the rest of your system. and the 450's and 650's I've heard sounded pretty good too.

Mark W.
11-16-2009, 10:03 PM
The best sounding of the big receivers IMHO is the SX-1010 100 watts and a slightly warmer sound akin to a SA-9100 Amp.

johnda
11-16-2009, 10:21 PM
I have a 780 and it's a solid unit running the sound system for a local maritime museum. The tuner needs work, but since I'm using it to play tape audio, that's not important. It plays from 11am-4pm on weekends without a break for the summer, then the museum shuts down for the winter. Every spring, I put it back in action without any problems. Going on year three!

lico
11-17-2009, 12:13 AM
Any of the mid range units are good, like the SX-780. However... if you are patient and willing to spend a bit more I think the SX-1050 is best value. Sometimes you see them sell under the radar at very good prices. Pound for pound compared to the littler guys there is no comparison, the SX-1050 is a beast.

jocko_nc
11-17-2009, 12:18 AM
Which ever of those you can find cheap. Move up when if and when you can.

Duffinator
11-17-2009, 12:47 AM
I am looking to put together an inexpensive vintage stereo system & am very interested in Pioneer SX Receivers. Does anyone have any advice on which one to look for on eBay?

Thanks, BillDo you want the best inexpensive Pioneer SX receiver? If so I'd look for an SX-850. The build quality is a step up from the 750 and it has a real wood veneer cabinet vs. vinyl on the 750.

Wolverine
11-17-2009, 05:40 AM
Do you want the best inexpensive Pioneer SX receiver? If so I'd look for an SX-850. The build quality is a step up from the 750 and it has a real wood veneer cabinet vs. vinyl on the 750.

I would second the 850 but I am biased because it is the only SX I own. Plenty of power in there that drive just about anything you throw at it. There is some debate but some people say you only consider anything 750 or higher in the SX line.

EchoWars
11-17-2009, 06:22 AM
Sx-939, sx-1010, sx-850, sx-950, sx-1050, sx-1250

bre's dad
11-17-2009, 07:43 AM
I've had a few sx-780's and loved them dearly. I upgraded to a 980 and honestly wish I'd have kept the 780. The 780 was a much warmer sounding unit. If you want something a little out of the ordinary, look for aan SX-5580. Its the black face version of a 1050. Same on the inside (including massive torroidial transformer you didn't see much back then). They go for a bit more then the 1050 but are more rare. I have one I've pretty much decided I'll be buried with.

audiojones
11-17-2009, 09:05 AM
IMO - the great ones are the SX-850 through the SX-1250. The SX-850 and SX-950 are the same size, the SX-1050 larger (deeper and wider) and the SX-1250 is slightly larger yet. For a basic high quality starter I would go with the SX-850 or SX-950. The build quality is unbeatable, plus they are easy to work on should you ever need to.
The older "blackout dial" versions are excellent too. Models include the SX-727, SX-939 and of course the SX-1010. I don't care for the SX-X80 series (the ones with the power meters) as they're just not my cup of tea and I don't particularly like the design, but YMMV!

PS - I own and use all of the SX-850 - SX-1250 models, so if you have any questions or want measurements just let me know!

analog addict
11-17-2009, 10:11 AM
No love for the SX-828????

budgetaudio6
11-17-2009, 10:28 AM
The SX 1500td amp section is no slouch. I know because it outperforms my M70 yamaha in so many ways, In driving my infinity RSa. A very neutral sounding speaker and hard to drive to satisfiying levels. Unless driven with at least a hundred WPC RMS. Whcih the 1500td is rated conservatively at 60 WPC.

stereofanboy
11-17-2009, 12:39 PM
The best sounding of the big receivers IMHO is the SX-1010 100 watts and a slightly warmer sound akin to a SA-9100 Amp.

+1. Also, top of the line in it's day, and, I believe, the first 100WPC receiver. Because the power went up with the later big ones, it is less sought after and less expensive today.

AngelRa
11-17-2009, 01:17 PM
I would decide more on condition over model. These old receivers can become a small nightmare to fix, plus there is plenty of unobtanium in them. My SX-850 took two weeks of work and still have some small problems.

AnalogDigit
11-17-2009, 04:03 PM
I would choose the SX 950 or the SX 980. They have enough power for any speaker system, and they are less expensive then their more powerful brothers. Pioneer did not skimp on build quality on any of their receivers, including their BOTL ones, so I don't think you will go wrong in choosing anything in the Pioneer line.

barkerd
11-17-2009, 04:09 PM
I would decide more on condition over model.
Well said : Someone mentioned the 780 being "warm" compared to others : compared to my sx-737 my sx-780('s) sound way colder ... way more SS (imho) ...but I'd be just as concerned about matching speakers : you don't need the power if you have the efficiency. I know there are a lot of 737 fans out there (and I have become one) . I refoamed some freebie run-of-the-mill '70's acoustic suspension 12" 3-ways for the cottage : and it blows my mind. I have about $75 into the whole setup and it blows the doors off of just about any < $1k system Ive heard ... every once in a while components and rooms match by accident and the results are no less than miraculous ..you gotta love vintage : the joke is when my "home theater" friend heard them , his jaw hit the floor (and I know EXACTLY what he was thinking : " I thought spending lots of $$ guaranteed my system was tops" .... WRONG :)

Rybeam
11-17-2009, 04:25 PM
The SX 50 series is the heaviest of the Pioneer receiver lines. Weight often equals build quality.

The SX-950 has twin 21K main caps, bigger than the SX1010.

But, the real sleeper IMO is the SX-850, twenty less watts than a 950 at 65 per, likely more like 75+ in real life. Same exact features as the 950 for less money.

I own a 950 and an 850 and honestly cannot hear the difference unless you really crank it up, than those 20 watts begin to be noticed.

ddragg1
11-17-2009, 04:29 PM
Your PL-570 is one nice looking TT and I bet, also good sounding.
I have the same speakers and like them very much.

Hey Moinau! Does this look familar to you? We have or had the same set-up:)

The 1050 is the only Pioneer receiver I have listened to and I love it.

AngelRa
11-17-2009, 04:41 PM
Do you think these SX receivers sound good or they just look and feel so cool that we cannot judge the sound objectively?

For me, I do not like radio, but find myself searching for radio stations... for the feel of the knob! It is addictive! I use the SX receiver a lot more than my 400W/ch separates!

audiojones
11-17-2009, 06:07 PM
Do you think these SX receivers sound good or they just look and feel so cool that we cannot judge the sound objectively?

For me, I do not like radio, but find myself searching for radio stations... for the feel of the knob! It is addictive! I use the SX receiver a lot more than my 400W/ch separates!

Well, speaking for myself, it's all about the sound, build quality and convenience. I'm going to be packing up my 200 wpc Adcom system (GFP-555 II, GFA-555 PRO, GFS-3 and a Pioneer TX-8500II tuner) and replacing it with my SX-1250. I like having the high quality components all coupled together and the controls right at my fingertips rather than spread out all over a shelving unit.

I love the radio around here and I couldn't live without it - lots of Jazz, college and independent stations from all directions to listen to. IMHO Pioneers have the greatest tuners, excellent and well thought out pre-amps with all the right ins, outs and switches, plus outstanding amplifier sections with very effective speaker / output protection. The Pioneers just can't be beat.

I spent an entire afternoon A/B ing the 200 wpc Adcom system and the 165 wpc SX-1250 at all different volume levels from the same source split off to both systems (tone controls disengaged). I assumed that there would be a large difference in the Adcom system's favor. I listened and listened going back and forth between the two, then listening to one for an hour and switching to the other for an hour. I found absolutely no difference whatsoever. I really was looking for something, any difference whether good or bad, brighter or more bassy, ANYTHING...but not even the slightest difference.

So for me it's about the sound, build quality and convenience. If I can get the same results from a high quality receiver with all of the controls right at my fingertips that I can get from the components that are currently spread out all over the place then give me the receiver - I'm in. :yes:

Dave1384
11-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Sx-939, sx-1010, sx-850, sx-950, sx-1050, sx-1250

I've had a few sx-780's and loved them dearly. I upgraded to a 980 and honestly wish I'd have kept the 780. The 780 was a much warmer sounding unit.

Why I no longer own my 980

moinau
11-17-2009, 06:23 PM
Hey Moinau! Does this look familar to you? We have or had the same set-up:)

The 1050 is the only Pioneer receiver I have listened to and I love it.
Hi 'ddragg1",
Thank you but I think you mean 'onepixel", I don't have the 1050 nor the PL-570 TT although I wish I had this nice TT. The only equipment that we have in common are, the HPM 100 speakers.
Cheers.

JHS2RT
11-17-2009, 06:38 PM
Give me a 1250 anyday!!! Get it in good condition ---send it to one of our Pioneer gurus for a full recap and switch cleaning and you won't look back.
James

patokapirate
11-17-2009, 07:12 PM
Hey Guys BONGOBILL orig. post was for an inexpensive system and Pioneer SX options. With out a dollar limit specified, I'm guessing a 1050 or 1250 are not in the budget class. Unless it's for BONGOBILL Gates. LOL.

motorstereo
11-17-2009, 07:14 PM
Don't overlook the nice sounding sx9000 reciever from the early 70's.

patokapirate
11-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Also need to know how much you can bench press these things gain about 5 pounds with each higher number.

sixtys guy
11-17-2009, 08:45 PM
sure like my sx1010 and good man minister speakers: very strong and solid

onepixel
11-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Hey Guys BONGOBILL orig. post was for an inexpensive system and Pioneer SX options. With out a dollar limit specified, I'm guessing a 1050 or 1250 are not in the budget class. Unless it's for BONGOBILL Gates. LOL.

These things take a life of their own.

Interesting though, how in only two posts he mentions buying a SX-650, THEN starts this thread.

patokapirate
11-17-2009, 09:17 PM
Wow, that's correct. And the 650 is a nice budget choice.

turbomustang
11-17-2009, 09:26 PM
I know it has been mentioned but for the money a SX-1010 will be something you will never regret buying .they sell for less than the SX-1250 (my other favorite.but of the 6 units I have purchased of the model SX-1010 not one needed service of any kind,they were built well and sound fantastic

audiojones
11-17-2009, 10:04 PM
Hey Guys BONGOBILL orig. post was for an inexpensive system and Pioneer SX options. With out a dollar limit specified, I'm guessing a 1050 or 1250 are not in the budget class. Unless it's for BONGOBILL Gates. LOL.

Yep. Like I said before, start with the SX-850 or SX-950 and you can't go wrong. The only reason I mentioned the SX-1250 and the comparison was because someone was asking if the SX series really sounded good or if it was just a tactile thing - didn't mean to get off track.

tarior
11-18-2009, 11:01 AM
Which ever Pioneer receiver you go for, save yourself a giant headache and don't buy one on eBay.
Keep in mind that you are buying a 30+ year old piece of gear, and it will need work.
Watch your local Craigslist/newspaper/yard sales, you'll get one that you can inspect up front and avoid shipping damage. Plus, the $50-$60 you didn't spend on shipping can go towards a refurb.

ZeroJunk
11-18-2009, 12:53 PM
I have an SX 750 running a pair of Infinity Kappa 6's and it sounds PDG to me.

I'm not sure that I would notice that much difference in the SX 1250 blindfolded at reasonable listening levels.

TAGO MAGO
11-18-2009, 12:54 PM
I recommend anything SX-x50 and before. I also have to agree on not particularly being a fan of the SX-x80's or the "flouroscan" series after it. I am not sure why, but I have owned a few and they never did much for me like the earlier series. I currently own a SX-950 which I actually found at a thrift store for $10 in fully operational condition (and I have had it for about six or seven years now). I do like the blackout dial units, but the SX-x50 series has been more reliable. Keep in mind, though, there is a little bit of quality difference between the entry and mid-level units and the high end units since Pioneer still made the upper ones in Japan and the lower ones were starting to be manufactured in Korea starting with the SX-x50 series.

AngelRa
11-18-2009, 01:13 PM
Which ever Pioneer receiver you go for, save yourself a giant headache and don't buy one on eBay.
Keep in mind that you are buying a 30+ year old piece of gear, and it will need work.
Watch your local Craigslist/newspaper/yard sales, you'll get one that you can inspect up front and avoid shipping damage. Plus, the $50-$60 you didn't spend on shipping can go towards a refurb.

Actually watching CL can take too much time, better place a WANTED add.

reneborg
11-18-2009, 01:19 PM
I recently acquired a SX-1000TW and really like it. The tuner is very good, but the phono section is a bit noisy. I'd like to get it up to 'snuff, especially because of the reception of its tuner, but lately every time I turn it on it blows the main fuse right away.

I have some pics of a capacitor that looks weird to me ... I will post some pics of that. Should I do it here or start another thread in the Vintage or Pioneer forum?

DaWoofer
11-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Start another in the Pioneer Forum.

kydog
11-18-2009, 02:16 PM
I am looking to put together an inexpensive vintage stereo system & am very interested in Pioneer SX Receivers. Does anyone have any advice on which one to look for on eBay?

Thanks, Bill

The SX 450-750 with it's counter part, SX 780 and below,Will fit into 99% of todays cabinets. ANY Sx line above those are beefy and will need a cabinet of at least 25" w&l to fit. The Sx 780 ( 45 wpc) and the Sx 750 (50 wpc) is a good deal any day of the week and will compliment speakers as small as the
Minimus 7w's or New large Advents.

My son who is 21 has been using a Sx 780 since high school, His friends look at that receiver and laugh.......Until he turns it on:yes::jawdrop: My personal favorite is the Sx750/ Sx 650. More then enough power and clarity to please.
without the worry of limited space. The Sx 750 though smaller then it's big brothers, Is one hefty receiver:yes: Be carefull when lifting.

pioneeramp22
11-18-2009, 06:34 PM
SX-939 with that deep blue lighted tuning dial looks great, and the sound is warm, too.

budgetaudio6
11-19-2009, 02:11 AM
mmmmm....wheres the pics? dont make me say it.

BongoBill279
11-25-2009, 04:33 PM
Well, thanks for the posts! I did originally post something about obtaining a Pioneer SX 650. I found a real nice one on eBay and I really expected to win the auction, but then, with seconds to go, I was outbid. I looked at it as "a sign" to do some more research and that led me to this post.

So, to the question of how much I want to spend... I don't want to spend more than $100.00 to $150.00 on a reciever and $50.00 to $100 on speakers; no more than $200.00 in all.

Thanks Again!!!

Bill S
11-25-2009, 04:54 PM
I am running a SX-838 with a pair of Sansui SP2000 speakers in my garage and the thing just plain rocks. I'd recommend the 838 because they typically go for less than a 728 or 828, yet they sound just as nice or better IMO. Look for a working model and get a refurb on it and you'll have less than $150 in it and you'll rest knowing it has been gone through. The receiver is rated at 50 wpc but puts out more like 65. The tuner is nice and the tone is great. There are even bass and trebel frequency turnover toggles to allow you to shape the sound. The Sansui speakers are discussed here often but I paid $25 for my pair and you can't go wrong for that price. They typically sell for $50-$75. Nice speakers but a little shy on bass. I was listening to some Firefall the other day and it sounded awesome. Those bullet tweets really let the highs shine.

Wolverine
11-25-2009, 04:57 PM
Well, thanks for the posts! I did originally post something about obtaining a Pioneer SX 650. I found a real nice one on eBay and I really expected to win the auction, but then, with seconds to go, I was outbid. I looked at it as "a sign" to do some more research and that led me to this post.

So, to the question of how much I want to spend... I don't want to spend more than $100.00 to $150.00 on a reciever and $50.00 to $100 on speakers; no more than $200.00 in all.

Thanks Again!!!

Its doable on your budget but probably not through E-Bay. Anything above the SX-750 will probably get involved in a bid war and may go above your budget. I would check CL in your area or thrifts and you might get lucky. A good pair of speakers in your price range are easier to find but I would not trust to have them shipped. You could on E-Bay and narrow the search to what is available in your area and pick them up locally. Advents, earlier KLH's or Dynaco A-25's are fairly common and within your budget.

AnalogDigit
11-25-2009, 05:38 PM
I would look on Cragislist or the AK classified and even thrift stores. I seen a SX 750 on Craigslist during the summer for $40.

Arkay
07-05-2010, 06:44 AM
Do you think these SX receivers sound good or they just look and feel so cool that we cannot judge the sound objectively?

For me, I do not like radio, but find myself searching for radio stations... for the feel of the knob! It is addictive! I use the SX receiver a lot more than my 400W/ch separates!

To answer your first question... BOTH! :D (They do sound good, AND they look and feel so cool that it's hard to judge their sound objectively. :yes:)

And the feel of good knobs is addictive, too, but if that is driving you to use your receiver more than your separates, then you need to upgrade your separates to ones with nicer-feeling knobs! :D

Caminokid
07-05-2010, 06:58 AM
The best? In my opinion is the SX1980. Not the cheapest...but the best. More power that any other SX series receiver. But for the cheaper units the 7XX and 9XX series is a great unit. Good power for the average listener. Excellent sound and clarity.

HomeBody
07-05-2010, 07:39 AM
Plus One for a 1010 or a 939...currently on my radar, money wise.
I've located both, but the price/shipping is another matter at this point.
838 @50wpc might suit your fancy just as well.

Spellbinder
07-05-2010, 08:26 AM
...838 @50wpc might suit your fancy just as well.
That's my primary receiver at the moment. Love it. And unless the listener knows ahead of time, those 50wpc sound like much more than they are. Excellent receiver.

kermit z
07-05-2010, 11:31 AM
I wonder if the OP found what he was looking for?

Omegaman
07-05-2010, 05:17 PM
I wouldn't get any gear that had vinyl coated plastic fake wood veneer. Pioneer's higher end gear (after 1972) had real wood veneer.

Axcel
07-05-2010, 05:26 PM
Without question, the SX-1250 and the SX-1050 are the best. The SX-1280 and the SX-1980 have output modules that if they blow are unobtanium.

agreed:thmbsp: I have owned a SX1050, 2 Sx1980's and own a SX1250 all things considered cost/performance the SX 1250 win's:thmbsp: by a mile

Fletch
07-05-2010, 10:14 PM
I guess I got lucky with my $10 SX-780 then. I thought it was a good price. Works perfectly.

Caminokid
07-06-2010, 05:42 PM
The SX 450-750 with it's counter part, SX 780 and below,Will fit into 99% of todays cabinets. ANY Sx line above those are beefy and will need a cabinet of at least 25" w&l to fit. The Sx 780 ( 45 wpc) and the Sx 750 (50 wpc) is a good deal any day of the week and will compliment speakers as small as the
Minimus 7w's or New large Advents.

My son who is 21 has been using a Sx 780 since high school, His friends look at that receiver and laugh.......Until he turns it on:yes::jawdrop: My personal favorite is the Sx750/ Sx 650. More then enough power and clarity to please.
without the worry of limited space. The Sx 750 though smaller then it's big brothers, Is one hefty receiver:yes: Be carefull when lifting.

I have the same problem with both my Kenwood KR-9940 and the Pioneer SX-1980, People ask why I dont have surround...then I show them. The power these put out totally amazes everyone.

blhagstrom
07-06-2010, 06:20 PM
I wouldn't get any gear that had vinyl coated plastic fake wood veneer. Pioneer's higher end gear (after 1972) had real wood veneer.

Excellent, just leave them for me.

It's weird how wood makes them sound better.

:D


Grab an SX-650. Cheap enough (see above) and more power and sound than you can use in a normal room.

OLDisGOLD
07-06-2010, 06:46 PM
Excellent, just leave them for me.

It's weird how wood makes them sound better.

:D


Grab an SX-650. Cheap enough (see above) and more power and sound than you can use in a normal room.

Exactly .......... I like wood as much as the next guy .......... but wood covered vinyl has no bearing whatsoever on the sound. :D

blhagstrom
07-06-2010, 06:53 PM
Exactly .......... I like wood as much as the next guy .......... but wood covered vinyl has no bearing whatsoever on the sound. :D

Yeah, I really wish hey would have gone with real wood. Pealing vinyl sucks.

Artie
07-06-2010, 08:44 PM
People ask why I dont have surround . . .

I tell them . . . when I go to a show, I don't sit in the middle of the band. If my room doesn't provide enough "acoustics", then I have my trusty DSP and reverb. :thmbsp:

jleon92f
07-06-2010, 09:01 PM
SX-850..:D

Thanks,
John.:music::D

boreas
07-06-2010, 09:15 PM
Let me put in a vote for the SX-828. I miss mine but my SX-780 tries hard to make me forget. :)

John

Susurus
07-08-2010, 09:20 AM
Which ever of those you can find cheap. Move up when if and when you can.

I did that! :D

I would decide more on condition over model. These old receivers can become a small nightmare to fix, plus there is plenty of unobtanium in them. ...

Wisdom. One of my 1050's sounded better than the other two. My 1080 was very dynamic, even on Maggies, which are not friendly to amps.

audiojones, my 1250 benches 190WPC so I'm not surprised at all. Better would be to compare it to the Adcom 585 sig II, since it's dual mono like the 1250.

I've heard every one of the SX's mentioned here, had a dozen off and on, but in the end kept the 1250.

Big Tuna
07-08-2010, 09:29 AM
Without question, the SX-1250 and the SX-1050 are the best. The SX-1280 and the SX-1980 have output modules that if they blow are unobtanium. originals are unobtanium, however, there are suitable replacements that are available, if I'm not mistaken.

Big Tuna
07-08-2010, 09:33 AM
try finding the Euro equivalent, SX-5580(1050) or SX-5590(1250). They are nicknamed "blacksilver"

My 5590 is picture attached.

Big Tuna
07-08-2010, 09:39 AM
I guess I got lucky with my $10 SX-780 then. I thought it was a good price. Works perfectly.nahhh, you paid $9.99 too much. :D

Axcel
07-08-2010, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=Susurus;3827686]I did that! :D



Wisdom. One of my 1050's sounded better than the other two. My 1080 was very dynamic, even on Maggies, which are not friendly to amps.

audiojones, my 1250 benches 190WPC so I'm not surprised at all. Better would be to compare it to the Adcom 585 sig II, since it's dual mono like the 1250.

I've heard every one of the SX's mentioned here, had a dozen off and on, but in the end kept the 1250.[/Q


had many of the Sx's 750-780-737-727-1050 1980x2 and a few more I still have the 1250:music:

Metalownz
07-08-2010, 03:40 PM
I would go with an SX-838, 939, 1010, or an SX-980. Honestly though, like alot of people said here, the whole SX line is amazing!

Shayne_Black
07-08-2010, 06:07 PM
I was recently in this same exact situation and I arrived at my decision to seek out an SX-780 by using the following criteria: function/features, looks, availability, price, reputation, and reliability. I knew I couldn't afford a top end receiver so that capped it around an SX-980. I knew I like the looks of the SX-#50's and SX-#80's the best, so that narrowed it down more. I liked the look of the black-faced meters and toggle switches, so that narrowed my choices to a 780, 880, or 980. I then looked at all the functions and features available on those three models and I decided a 780 was the right mix for me. I found a very nice 780 on Craigslist, which I purchased for $75, and I could not be more pleased. Now I'm not suggesting you should buy a 780 because I bought one. Your criterion for choosing a receiver may vary from mine. What I'm suggesting is that you try the same process I tried, because I think you'll be much happier with your final selection. here is a great resource to get you started: http://www.silverpioneer.netfirms.com/receivers.htm

Good luck!

toxcrusadr
07-08-2010, 06:52 PM
Somebody should have suggested that the OP spend a few bucks for an AK subscription and hit Barter Town. OR, since he's in CT, maybe there are some AKers up there who get together to swap junque. I would think the streets would be paved with receivers in that part of the country.

I have 2 780s and love em (one a free dumpster dive), and a 1250, which is not eligible for sale until pried from my cold dead fingers.

Cactus Bob
07-08-2010, 07:07 PM
I have a mint SX 950 and liking more & more each day. I found mine at a thrift at a sick price less then a year ago. The sound seems less colored than my beloved 9090db. It certainly has impressed me. Good Luck :thmbsp:

I also have a SX 580 & SX 680 both work well.

Hman
10-11-2010, 09:55 PM
Hello, my first receiver was the SX1250 and my neighbors hated it. I bought it while I was in the USAF at Harvey's Wharehouse in Columbia, SC. I bought it in 1978 and it must have been right when the 80 series was coming out because I still have both brochures in the folder that I keep all supporting documents

larryderouin
10-11-2010, 10:31 PM
Out of all the Solid STATE receivers I have, SX1010, QX,747A, QX9900, Sx790, Sansui 2000A, Fisher 500TX and a Realistic STA65C, I keep coming back to the SX790. It's got the right combination of style, functions, and power. Never have I had a unit that was so trouble free. Granted it's been recapped, but so has everything else. It acts like a unit 1/2 again it's size (power wise) and it's just so damn good looking. Re-did the cabinet in GUNSTOCK Stain, with Tung oil over it. The side panels are Solid Maple and the original top was stripped and sanded, stained and oiled.

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/torskdoc/Vintage%20stereo/100_1667.jpg

ccheath
10-11-2010, 10:38 PM
Try SX-636. I found it to be very musical with SX-737 close behind. My main rig is the SX-1250. My favorite for my bedside is the SX-780 with 2nd SX-780 for backup(880 sounds very close with more power-yes I have it too). I also use SX-1010 in my bedroom (not bedside though).


EDIT: By my bedside, I kept going back to SX-780 after trying other brands and models. 780 seems to be more detailed and easy on my ears along with the Polks for my bedside.

dumptruckz36
10-11-2010, 10:58 PM
ok i personally love the black dial sx-x3x line myself. i have an sx-1010, my best friend has a sx-636, and my brother has an sx-950. i saved for about a month and a half to buy my 1010 (i just graduated from highschool last year and now shes blasting in my college dorm room). anyway, if i was going to buy a lower end model, i would buy the sx-737. it really annoyes me when there is only one button to the right of the tuning knob. the 737 is the only other one in that line with the 2 buttons besides the 939 and the 1010. they usually go for alot less than the x50 line because when new people think "awesome vintage pioneer", they think of the x50 line.

Edriz
10-12-2010, 10:42 AM
I have a SX-980 and really like the sound. Nice mid size receiver,plenty of power and its built like an SX, to survive me!!!

chromehunter
10-12-2010, 01:34 PM
I picked up a sx-950 a month ago and the sound is amazing.Has the power to lite a small city and has pretty much replaced the family tv.

Arkay
10-12-2010, 02:00 PM
If you want a slightly warmer sound on a slim budget, look for the 636/737/838/939 ones. Great classic receivers that are very affordable.

If you want to move up a step above those with still a warmer sound and a very attractive "vintage" look, get the 1010. It's one of my personal favorites for its overall balance of looks, power and sonics.

For a slightly more detailed sound, look for the 850/950/1050/1250 series, but expect to pay a bit more for the 1250. If your budget is limited or your listening space is smaller, you'll probably be quite happy with one of the smaller units in this series.

If you save up more money and want to impress your friends with something that grabs visual attention and sonically blows out the windows just before their ears start bleeding, but still with great Pioneer sound, then get the 1980. It's definitely the king of the hill, but NOT cheap at all (unless you are VERY lucky!).

Of course, the European blackface equivalents of any of these are nice, but usually command a slight premium, since they are rarer.

I guess what it comes down to is... there are A LOT of GOOD old Pioneer receivers to choose from. Whichever you get, you'll probably be quite pleased, as long as you don't torture yourself with doubts about whether some other model would have been a little bit better. I'd start looking at what is available locally that you can inspect (so you know what you are getting and don't risk shipping damage or fraud). and buy whatever shows up in decent shape at a good price, that appeals to you. Then enjoy listening to it! If the upgrade bug still makes you itch, then keep looking, but otherwise just be happy to have a nice vintage receiver! :music:

mfhale
10-12-2010, 02:07 PM
Dang, Larry, that is gorgeous! Love the black tuning dial. :thmbsp:

larryderouin
10-13-2010, 08:14 AM
Dang, Larry, that is gorgeous! Love the black tuning dial. :thmbsp:

Thank you. The Black Dial is the BEST Feature of the X90 series. I really do believe that PIONEER made a BIG MISTAKE when they went ALL SILVER. The biggest problem is/was that there isn't enough contrast in the all silver dial face to see the actual dial pin without getting up and getting close to the unit. With the 790 I can see what channel I'm on from across the room.

Plus the contrast kinda reminds me of the X3X series.

Larry

DonQuixote99
10-13-2010, 09:52 AM
Pioneers form the backbone of the collection here. I'm most pleased with my SX-770 that currently holds down the bedroom slot, along with some Baby Advents. Detailed and warm sound match or exceed the output quality of my HK-330B, and FM reception is much better. Like the blackface styling as well. This one, IMHO, is a low-power gem.

A rather new arrival is an SX-828. It's still awaiting attention (deoxit and cleanup much needed, along with a tuning meter bulb), but it's now doing main duty nonetheless in the basement listening area with the Advent Graduates. Once I get it into shape, I'll have to do a living-room shootout between it and the Sherwood S-7200.

Though not an SX, honorable mention must go to the SA-750, that pulls backup duty in the mancave when it's betters are out of action.... http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=213339&d=1275445221

chefg1
10-13-2010, 11:56 AM
I like the sx-9000 so much i bought three, hope to get them refurbished cant find a tech.:music:

seesolo
10-13-2010, 08:30 PM
I got an SX-550, if you want it give me an offer, go ahead, i do not mind lowballers!:banana:

kydog
10-23-2010, 11:50 AM
Pioneers form the backbone of the collection here. I'm most pleased with my SX-770 that currently holds down the bedroom slot, along with some Baby Advents. Detailed and warm sound match or exceed the output quality of my HK-330B, and FM reception is much better. Like the blackface styling as well. This one, IMHO, is a low-power gem.

A rather new arrival is an SX-828. It's still awaiting attention (deoxit and cleanup much needed, along with a tuning meter bulb), but it's now doing main duty nonetheless in the basement listening area with the Advent Graduates. Once I get it into shape, I'll have to do a living-room shootout between it and the Sherwood S-7200.

Though not an SX, honorable mention must go to the SA-750, that pulls backup duty in the mancave when it's betters are out of action.... http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=213339&d=1275445221

I agree that the SX 770 is one good looking and sound wise great little receiver. This under the radar Pioneer needs to be included in a serious collectors stash :music::yes:

DonQuixote99
10-23-2010, 12:22 PM
I agree that the SX 770 is one good looking and sound wise great little receiver. This under the radar Pioneer needs to be included in a serious collectors stash :music::yes:

:thmbsp: Kydog. Good to see another 770 in action.

markallen
10-23-2010, 05:49 PM
The Black Dial is the BEST Feature of the X90 series. I really do believe that PIONEER made a BIG MISTAKE when they went ALL SILVER. The biggest problem is/was that there isn't enough contrast in the all silver dial face to see the actual dial pin without getting up and getting close to the unit. With the 790 I can see what channel I'm on from across the room.

Plus the contrast kinda reminds me of the X3X series. Larry

As the attached picture testifies, I also am a big fan of the SX-x90 black dial series. I currently have two each of the SX-590, 690, 790 and 890.

Also in the collection are black dial counterparts to the SX-3x00 series, the SX-620, 720 and 820. Finally, the middle of the pic shows an SA-708 amp and ST-608 tuner, which (I think) are alternatives to another Pioneer series and could be considered black dial as well.

I also have two SX-980s and an SX-3700 (which will be sold off once refurbished).

Both SX-890s came with infamous cold solder situation in the power supply, and were easily repaired. The 880/890 series is my favorite receiver. To me it represents the ideal combination of power and features in the slightly smaller form factor. The signal strength meter and function indicator lights gives it a clear edge over the 780/790 series in the looks department.

kydog
10-24-2010, 12:00 AM
I like the sx-9000 so much i bought three, hope to get them refurbished cant find a tech.:music:


Again I concur:yes::music: The SX 9000 is a stylish piece of work:thmbsp: I need to put it into rotation one day:scratch2:

toxcrusadr
10-24-2010, 09:11 AM
As the attached picture testifies, I also am a big fan of the SX-x90 black dial series. I currently have two each of the SX-590, 690, 790 and 890.

Also in the collection are black dial counterparts to the SX-3x00 series, the SX-620, 720 and 820.

No fair Bogarting all the black stuff. I wondered where it all was. :D

jleon92f
10-24-2010, 09:32 AM
I like the SX-850.

Thanks,
John.:music::D

markallen
10-24-2010, 01:51 PM
No fair Bogarting all the black stuff. I wondered where it all was. :D

Now you know where it is. I prefer to think of it as "specific category hoarding", but hey, bogarting works for me (actually had to look that up in the Urban Dictionary). I've had many Pioneers through here and sold all the "standard", more common counterpart series and yet hang on to these. They are worth no more than their common brethren (if auction prices are any consideration), so my attachment is not value based. I keep thinking that maybe someday their relative rarity will come into play - and to me they are just the most attractive receiver series ever produced.

I'd still like to know why Pioneer decided to make the dial color and model number change from the mainstream series, and then make only a limited number. I'd also like to know why it was only the lower end models and why they didn't run the black dial style up into the top end of the lines. Imagine a black-dial 1280 or 1980!

zenith2134
10-24-2010, 02:06 PM
Hi-out of all of the SX Pioneers I've used, my favorite is the 737-1010 series. I feel that they are the sweet spot for vintage Pioneer receivers. They sound very full and rich, have superb tuner sections, and are well built without output ICs.

NAM JAMMER
10-24-2010, 04:36 PM
I have to say I love my 1250 that has been rebuilt by Paul79.

Caminokid
10-25-2010, 09:15 AM
The best is the 1980...but not the cheapest.

fiddlefye
10-25-2010, 10:10 AM
I don't know the Pioneer receiver line really well having never owned one, but if they are like the other receivers I do own the best bang for the buck usually comes one or perhaps two models down from the flagship of the day. You almost always get the same tuner and most if not all of the features and the power output is seldom far off.

Ricktptman
06-22-2014, 06:30 PM
1050's, 1250's, 1280's and 1980's are the top of the pot, both in quality and expense. The '80 systems did (above the small receivers) have those STK-Power modules, but as long as you don't blow them, they're as or more reliable than discrete output transistors. Just don't buy a pig in a poke.

PapaBear
06-23-2014, 12:02 AM
My first Pio was an SX-1010 back in 1975. After 40 years (and a Kenwood and a Technics later), I just got an SX-737. Astounding receiver! I can't find any difference in the sound quality and the 1010. It's like meeting up with a long-lost friend. And, for the first time in 32 years (since I got the Kenwood), I don't have to use an equalizer except for a tiny touch in the midrange because of my room acoustics.

SX-737. Boston A40s, Polk PSW10 sub. Makes me feel 21 again listening to it. :D

JarredCrowe
06-23-2014, 01:09 AM
I've long been a fan of SX receivers. Probably my favorite of the ones I've heard is the 737 but my choice for MVP is the 850. Good looks, solid build, plenty of power and not crazy big or over priced. I'm still waiting to hear a 1250 though and I long for a 5590. Easily in my top 3 of best looking receivers. Especially with some lights like The Yamahas with the sorta teal color.

tubed
06-23-2014, 02:02 AM
The iconic SX-828
The receiver that started it all back in 1973.
I can't believe the FM sounds it still produces after all these years.

ryuuoh
06-23-2014, 02:23 AM
Handsome looking beast. Those tuning meters look familiar.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6956743706_14d1994948_b.jpg

Daunia 70
06-23-2014, 03:37 AM
The 1980 Pioneer SX-D5000/D7000 receivers.. These two often tend to get overlooked most likely due to their odd looking twin digital displays/design,but they sure sound excellent!

deadphish
06-23-2014, 12:47 PM
There's a recapped 780 on bartertown right now, check it out. looks pretty good.

operaman
06-23-2014, 01:08 PM
I'll be the one to vouch for the SX 880, which is warm sounding and powerful - I've been very happy!

It does have the wood vinyl instead of real wood, but if you find one for $40 like i did, don't pass it up!

sax6
06-23-2014, 01:27 PM
Only one I've got is an SX-820 Very nice, paired to some Celestions