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freemanxp
03-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Hello all JBL L100 owners and everyone else)

I recently acquired JBL L100A speakers in very good condition.
Now I'm in a process of choosing proper speaker stands for them.
I found online vintage JBL wooden stands for L100 series
but they seem to be to low or I am wrong?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4121/newstandwithlogo.jpg

What is the proper height (min-max), weight and design (metal) of speaker stand
that is intended to carry L100?

Thanks for advise

eedork
03-13-2010, 12:36 PM
Hi -

I am in the same boat with a pair of L166s which are the same size as your L100s. I like the replica JBL stands, but they definitely seem too short. I think they are only 3 or 4 inches tall, which basically puts the speakers on the floor. I have to think that JBL thought of this back in the day when they first made these stands available though.

I now have my L166s on some ~24 inch stands that I had lying around. In my opinion these are too high. I think 12 to 16 inches would be just about perfect (in my opinion).

-Matt

131east23
03-13-2010, 01:04 PM
I had those for my L112's which weigh about 55 pounds each, mine broke about 4 years ago. I loved them. They were low but slightly angled up and the bottoms of my speakers were pristine until the stands broke and I started sitting them on the floor. Ask the guy if they come apart or if they are stuck together. Mine eventually became so tight I couldn't get them apart. While trying to separate them I broke them.

Cactus Bob
03-13-2010, 01:34 PM
I have a pair of those and they are suppose to come apart and do. I think they are just right and look cooler than heck with my L50's or L56 on them.

Tarl Of Gor
03-13-2010, 01:38 PM
I would like to find a couple pair of those stands for my L112s and L50s.

freemanxp
03-13-2010, 01:56 PM
All right, these vintage or replica JBL wood stands do look cool and add charm
no doubt but how about the rule that the center of the tweeter should be on ear level?
The distance between L100 bottom and the tweeter is about 20 inches.
The distance between the seated person's ear and the floor is about 45 inches
So to match the 45 inches ear level you have to put L100 on 25 inches speaker stand
But there is an opinion that it is too high (25inch) for L100 so can anyone explain why?

rdgrimes
03-13-2010, 02:01 PM
The right height is the one that puts the tweets and mids at or about ear-level from the listening position. I use these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_051SFC18B/Sanus-SFC18-Center-Channel-Speaker-Stand-Black.html?search=center+speaker+stand&ssi=0

They are solid steel and have a top platform suitable for large speakers. My L112s will sit perfectly on them. You can also fill the tubes with sand or shot.

Using the lower stand that's tipped back is an option but the bass won't be as clean.

bassnutt
03-13-2010, 05:28 PM
I just use my Sansui SP3500s for stands for my L100s just the right size and I don't listen to them anyways, look cool though.:D

freemanxp
04-02-2010, 03:30 PM
Yesterday I got some kind of crazy idea of making a cheap speaker stand.
What if... to put L100 on a couple of bricks? (red bricks)?
Just stack two bricks. 2 stacks for each speaker. That makes 8 bricks total.
What would it sound like in your opinion? Is it worth testing?

Thank you.

Coolhandjjl
04-02-2010, 04:37 PM
Yesterday I got some kind of crazy idea of making a cheap speaker stand.
What if... to put L100 on a couple of bricks? (red bricks)?
Just stack two bricks. 2 stacks for each speaker. That makes 8 bricks total.
What would it sound like in your opinion? Is it worth testing?

Thank you.

I've got some vintage paver bricks from city streets circa 1890 I'll sell you for $30 each plus shipping. :D

24HACKER
04-02-2010, 05:16 PM
I just made a pair of stands out of walnut - turned out really well.

Freemanxp - send me your e-mail, I will send you the prints to make these.

navydiver
03-13-2011, 12:42 AM
Attached are the designs from another site.

hspLOBO
03-13-2011, 01:12 AM
Attached are the designs from another site.


Looks really nice.....what type of wood ?

4343
03-13-2011, 01:27 AM
Hi -

I am in the same boat with a pair of L166s which are the same size as your L100s. I like the replica JBL stands, but they definitely seem too short. I think they are only 3 or 4 inches tall, which basically puts the speakers on the floor. I have to think that JBL thought of this back in the day when they first made these stands available though.

I now have my L166s on some ~24 inch stands that I had lying around. In my opinion these are too high. I think 12 to 16 inches would be just about perfect (in my opinion).

-Matt

Actually, 24" is just about right for L166 "Horizons". Think about that name for a bit, it's a clue as to how they should be placed...

Despite the labels trying to convince you that they are meant to be stood up, they are in fact designed to sound best laying down. The tweeter and mid should be aligned one above the other, exactly as a lot of JBL studio monitors are. 4412's for instance, which have the labels oriented to be read when they are horizontal.

navydiver
03-14-2011, 01:03 AM
I did a rough mock up using pine from a spare wooden shelf just to do a proof of concept (attached photo). It turned out so so for sturniess so I am still playing with some techniques before attempting to make the final stands in Oak. Couldn't get Walnut at Home Depot and I didn't want to go searching far and wide. Not really fussed that they have to be Walnut anyway. Plan is to fabricate from Oak pieces I bought for $25 and then use a Walnut Stain - I will use a craft wood burner to replicate the JBL logo on the front. Will post images when complete and only if it turns out half decent.
The speakers sound much better off the ground - As most folks say, the mids and tweeters are best at ear level for optimum sound. With CINCHOMEFLEET though, that will not be an option for me in our living room since looks are definately more important to her and these stands will make them look real good. Can't wait to receive the Ultra Blue Quadrex inserts and tweeter foams I ordered now...

navydiver
03-15-2011, 01:32 AM
Well, I did spend a few hours today (Flex day off) making the stands and must say I am really happy at how they turned out. Here is where I departed from the original design:
1. I used Oak instead of Walnut (used a Walnut stain though)
2. I did not round off the the wood cross-brace ends (wife likes them squared off and besides I don't really have a tool to properly round them off just yet)
3. Made the back support slightly higher
4. Cross members are not quite flush (may have to cut a little bit deeper notches to get them even - if the speakers sit on them sturdy I probably won't bother
4. Made the JBL Label slightly bigger using a craft wood burning iron
5. I did not router the tops of the front and back wood pieces (may yet do that but is not really visible when speakers are on the stand anyway.
Attached are some photos at different stages. Stain is drying right now and I plan on putting a coat of varnish overtop to protect. Once fully complete I will post more photos....

navydiver
03-15-2011, 01:54 AM
Here they are - rock solid and fit perfectly. First 2 photos are with the pine (unfinished) mock-ups under speakers and the new stands beside. Now I can't wait until my Ultra Blue Quadrex Grill Inserts to arrive...

tboat4
03-15-2011, 02:12 AM
They look very nice. You've convinced me, so when the weather changes I'll make myself a pair.

24HACKER
03-15-2011, 08:18 AM
I made a pair from walnut - an easy afternoon project. Navydiver - yours look great - especially the 'JBL' wood burn in. Great job.

70salesguy
03-15-2011, 09:24 AM
That's a nice looking pair of stands that you have made!

Back when my L-100s were new (in the 70's), I wanted stands to place them higher, so I made these from a pair of damaged lab chairs.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/winnabowflash/Vintage%20audio%20album/MVC-012S-1.jpg?t=1300198855


They have a very slight "tilt", are height adjustable and rotate. They are also very heavy duty.

Posted this so you might start thinking about what other items might be converted to a nice pair of speaker stands.

navydiver
04-05-2011, 01:04 AM
With ultra blue Quadrex grills

jlovda
04-05-2011, 06:06 PM
My L-100's sit on original, 1970 walnut AR speaker stands and they seem to be just the right height for my ears.

brad6285
04-05-2011, 07:12 PM
i have l112s, l65bs, and l166s and maybe some people wouldnt use these but i did and you can even spike them. i bought the small round top bar chairs maybe 20 to 24 inches high the legs are black with a stained round top. i bought speaker stabilizers (theyre urethane i think) to set the speakers on the round top and you can spike the legs easily because theyre wood. the speakers seem to be very stable and when setting in my lounge chair the tweeter is approx at ear level. they are also cheap 25.00 a set. thanx brad

drillher
04-05-2011, 08:22 PM
Will having the speakers closer to the floor and tilted up be better for bass response vs.having the speakers up on higher stands?Nice wood working on those stands.
Dave

24HACKER
04-05-2011, 09:00 PM
Looks really nice.....what type of wood ?

Black Walnut

navydiver
05-08-2011, 11:18 PM
Next speaker stand project is in the works.
I dare not say the company name here for fear of being ostracised for life but also feel they really do belong in this thread since they are in fact JBL L100s with a different name plate IMHO. see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_HPM-100
They were also the very first speakers I ever bought brand new as a teenager in Europe back in 1978 (50/100 watt version) when I was a military dependant. Thank god for summer jobs and no TV over there which got me into audio big time. So here they are next to my L100A treasures but with my daughter's music tatste (before they were relegated to the sons room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0P1kdq2i-s
With different music see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMiMa0GDZYU

So back to the thread topic - you have to know I'm going to build stands for these puppies! - the ones that came with them are just OK. I will likely be building an up-scaled set just like the JBL ones but, yeeesh, a different logo.

Obankenobi
05-09-2011, 10:16 AM
I bought a pair of Decades late last year from the original owner. He got these stands from the stereo shop where he bought them circa 1976. They're not JBL, but a perfect match for the JBL finishes - oak veneer with a black MDF pedestal. I spiked them, and put Blue Tack at the contact points. Puts the mids & tweets at 28", same as the 240Ti's next door, with the pedestals angled back about 5 degrees.

navydiver
03-04-2012, 03:59 PM
I had to scale these ones up because the speaker is a bit bigger than my L-100 speakers. Some may argue that anything related to Pioneer HPM-100 Speakers doesn't belong in a JBL thread. My arguement is that since Bart Locantahi (engineer formerly of JBL) was the driving force behind these puppies as direct competition to the L-100/43XX series of speakers, then the stands for the HPM-100 should belong.
https://picasaweb.google.com/101466465643939737377/Pioneer#5716164058213011090
https://picasaweb.google.com/101466465643939737377/Pioneer#5716164051823427842
https://picasaweb.google.com/101466465643939737377/Pioneer#5716164042086571938
https://picasaweb.google.com/101466465643939737377/Pioneer#5716164038340350786
https://picasaweb.google.com/101466465643939737377/Pioneer#5716164034956460866

Moon_Man
03-05-2012, 07:33 AM
This is an interesting and timely thread for me. I am in the process of changing things around in the MB, including putting a flatscreen on the wall, moving out a lot of stuff that was taking up floor space, and putting a system in. Sony STR-7035, Denon DCD-1500 and my bought-new beloved little JBL L15's. I have a soft spot for all these pieces and love having quality audio in the bedroom. However, little bookshelfs like the L15's look silly on the floor and I know the wife will be very unhappy (translation - not happening) if I go back to the "stands" I used to use with these - antique chimney flue pipe (6" round, 32" high, a dark kiln-fired finish). They were perfect - heavy and interesting looking - but I think I'm going to go with something less obtrusive. So I'm thinking about making stands to get them about 6" off the floor and tilted a bit - not sonically perfect but good enough. I'm going to go with a square-ish concrete base maybe 2.5" thick for heft, solid black steel rods up into an oak base. I'm going for a simple, "industrial" look. When I start the process, I'll take some pics and post.

Rob.
04-16-2012, 05:54 PM
Those stands are nice indeed !

Here's what the originals looked like.

tnsilver
04-17-2012, 11:52 AM
...
What is the proper height (min-max), weight and design (metal) of speaker stand
that is intended to carry L100?
Thanks for adviseAccording to Danish L100 DIY site (http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/JBL_L100.htm) by Troels Gravesen:

One last thing: The L100s need stands, at least 45 cm in height to bring the 123A drivers off the floor. Remember, the 123A is handling most of the midrange and a 5 deg. tilt is doing even better. I used the stands I made for the L26-3W.


I also remember reading somewhere that the speakers should be placed at least 2 meters apart from each other

DIY stands for the L26-3W

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/JBL-L26-3way_files/JBL_L26_3W_final_3.jpg

I hope this helps

jlovda
04-17-2012, 12:01 PM
I use a pair of original AR walnut stands. The tops are about 15" above the floor.

majick47
04-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Get the L100 up high enough so that the tweeter and midrange are at ear level when seated. This will eliminate any low end boom, also make sure they are out of the corners and a good foot from the back wall, they will sound excellent.

ggeorge
04-22-2012, 12:46 AM
Is anyone familiar with the stands that would have been available for the L19? Or how to go about copying them?

Bachphoto
02-11-2013, 05:58 PM
Hello all JBL L100 owners and everyone else)

I recently acquired JBL L100A speakers in very good condition.
Now I'm in a process of choosing proper speaker stands for them.
I found online vintage JBL wooden stands for L100 series
but they seem to be to low or I am wrong?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4121/newstandwithlogo.jpg

What is the proper height (min-max), weight and design (metal) of speaker stand
that is intended to carry L100?

Thanks for advise


Can you tell me where to get a set (or two) of the stands you had pichuted in this post? They are exactly what I'm looking for..


Thanks

tboat4
02-11-2013, 06:10 PM
Very difficult to find. Many people nowadays make them themselves, pretty easy to do.

wu6fiend
02-11-2013, 06:49 PM
Can you tell me where to get a set (or two) of the stands you had pichuted in this post? They are exactly what I'm looking for..


Thanks

The originals will occasionally pop up on eBay. They can be very expensive, which is why many will make their own. I've seen the exact dimensions on the net, I can't recall what site though.

daveg3588
02-11-2013, 08:08 PM
I have my original set purchased with the L166 (1976), and still used with them. I also copied them for my 4311's.

forekast
02-11-2013, 08:32 PM
The originals will occasionally pop up on eBay. They can be very expensive, which is why many will make their own. I've seen the exact dimensions on the net, I can't recall what site though.

not sure it they are exact dimensions. but on the first page of this thread, someone posted some dimension with the stand taken apart

tnsilver
02-12-2013, 01:44 AM
I found these original JBL stands to be a perfect match for my spoiled brats pair of 4311 monitors. The secret is their 1' height and 5 degrees backward tilt. It makes all the difference in the world. I use them for my L65A's too and they are so much better than those low cut wooden L100 series JBL stands. I think a foot off the ground is the minimum for L100's

Original JBL 1' high, 5 degree tilted stands

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uKHD1x34MvI/URnqxNn2g4I/AAAAAAAAFyk/WjxgRs8OO9w/s611/IMG_0028.JPG

Here's that tilt with the 4311's

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ID7zgf8bnj8/URnsD5Jch8I/AAAAAAAAF3s/TrUS1buWZnY/s458/IMG_0079.JPG

and here it is again, side up:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s0l2cGkLzEo/URnqrLTd_3I/AAAAAAAAFyI/LJp1QQmRx8Q/s611/IMG_0025.JPG

The L65A's like them too:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DxWqBfxMkMw/URnrTO3tV9I/AAAAAAAAF0k/zWtsdwv6uBA/s458/IMG_0043.JPG

So, I guess, if you're gonna build some DIY stands, build those instead of the low cut wooden type. If you're not convinced, just have your L100's sit on a foot high timber log or some kind of raising platform and slide some paper folds underneath to give them a 5 degree angle. Then see for your self... :yes: