View Full Version : a-Ha! I knew McIntosh was up to something
Cleve 01-13-2005, 12:14 PM Well, our Mac4200 friend has returned....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14992&item=5742765712&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Importantly, he says the following...
This McIntosh 4200 Receiver is Like New and Performs Exactly the Same as All Brand New Tuner Equipment Units of this Mfr - However - "None Equal Broadcast Sound" - [It has been "Discovered" - That All Equipment with Tuners of this Mfr - Intentionally Have - "Limiting Adjustment Coils" - Preventing Final Performance Alignment to Reach Broadcast Sound - All Units of This Mfr Because of This - Are "Uniformly" All the Same - And Do Not Vary in Sound Performance.
"Limiting Adjustment Coils" - So the cat's out of the bag, eh? :lmao: Of course, I demand that McIntosh tell me how to remove these nefarious, performance sapping limiters from my 4100 and 2205 immediately!!!!
Ron-C, just what do you have to say in McIntosh's defense? ;)
Rich Andrews 01-13-2005, 04:32 PM I can come up with the truth about this situation. The seller is a nut.
Catswold 01-13-2005, 08:53 PM Oops! He has escaped from the mothership again. Will somebody PLEASE get this guy his meds? :nutz:
audiomaniac 01-13-2005, 10:12 PM Calling Nurse Ratched...of course this is the Asylum! :lmao:
stereofisher 01-14-2005, 04:20 PM [QUOTE=Clevanator]Well, our Mac4200 friend has returned....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14992&item=5742765712&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Importantly, he says the following...
This McIntosh 4200 Receiver is Like New and Performs Exactly the Same as All Brand New Tuner Equipment Units of this Mfr - However - "None Equal Broadcast Sound" - [It has been "Discovered" - That All Equipment with Tuners of this Mfr - Intentionally Have - "Limiting Adjustment Coils" - Preventing Final Performance Alignment to Reach Broadcast Sound - All Units of This Mfr Because of This - Are "Uniformly" All the Same - And Do Not Vary in Sound Performance.
What the h*** is he talking about? Does this mean I have to take back the MAC 4100 I gave my son? Hmmm? :scratch2: He won't be pleased. Love that receiver. Like his Dad, he does not do HT stuff. Check out the price. If you buy it, do you leave it in the box? Or take it out? Will it work? Anyone got $1800? I think thats what I have in 3 systems and stuff sitting around waiting to get fixed. Unit one (the livingroom) has a Mac MA 6100.
Eric
dshoaf 01-14-2005, 05:12 PM have to pay eBay to do this? Seems that the eBay's recent price increases would keep people like this from breaking out of their cells.
Cheers,
David
stereofisher 01-14-2005, 05:17 PM Too pricey for me. Hello David. Happy New Year. Hope all is well by you.
Eric :D
Rich Andrews 01-15-2005, 07:25 PM If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' 'till you do succeed.
I thought it was "If at first you don't suck seed, keep on suckin' 'till you do suck seed". Curley Howard as he eats an orange.
rich
Vinyl Rules! 01-19-2005, 10:43 PM Well, our Mac4200 friend has returned....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14992&item=5742765712&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Importantly, he says the following...
This McIntosh 4200 Receiver is Like New and Performs Exactly the Same as All Brand New Tuner Equipment Units of this Mfr - However - "None Equal Broadcast Sound" - [It has been "Discovered" - That All Equipment with Tuners of this Mfr - Intentionally Have - "Limiting Adjustment Coils" - Preventing Final Performance Alignment to Reach Broadcast Sound - All Units of This Mfr Because of This - Are "Uniformly" All the Same - And Do Not Vary in Sound Performance.
"Limiting Adjustment Coils" - So the cat's out of the bag, eh? :lmao: Of course, I demand that McIntosh tell me how to remove these nefarious, performance sapping limiters from my 4100 and 2205 immediately!!!!
Ron-C, just what do you have to say in McIntosh's defense? ;)
It is my medical opinion that our Mac4200 friend is unfortunately suffering from a non-operable rectal/cranial inversion that has resulted in the "Limiting Adjustment Coils" being permanently engaged in his central nervous system. There is, unfortunately, no cure for him.
Wait! There's more! He was just hired as an equipment reviewer by(insert the name here of the audio publication you most hate) :naughty:
gearhead 01-19-2005, 10:59 PM You guys don't understand what he's saying-here's the key part-
" - Not the Relentless Discerning Audiophile That Absolutely Demands to Hear All and Everything That There is to Hear in Each and Every Radio Broadcast Transmission And Will Not Settle For Anything Else!"
See, he's hearing things in his broadcasts that nobody else does.
Cleve 01-20-2005, 07:24 AM See, he's hearing things in his broadcasts thay nobody else does.
"What's the Frequency, Kenneth?!!!"
Bill Allan 01-20-2005, 10:16 AM Apparently this guy has a marginal understanding of the sales process. He has not had a single bid in all the time its been listed!
Perhaps if he becomes an audio reviewer we will no longer be subjected to the endless stream of glowingly positive reviews ..."Is the Krell Current Tunnel technology stolen from the Wurlitzer audio wizards?? .. This much and more in next months issue of 'Weird Audio Expose'. :lmao: :lmao:
Well at least we know what he looks like!
Cleve 01-20-2005, 01:08 PM Apparently this guy has a marginal understanding of the sales process. He has not had a single bid in all the time its been listed!
Not only that... I just realized he's got it listed under SPEAKERS rather than stereo receivers. Talk about not missing a trick!
:scratch2:
Cleve 01-26-2005, 09:29 AM Now it's been relisted - under the questionably appropriate category of "Center Channel Speakers" LOL You know how popular those vintage two channel receivers are with the HT enthusiasts!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5746725816
2DualsNotEnough 01-26-2005, 11:10 AM "Sounds comparable to a very expensive Wurlitzer Jukebox"?And never any pics.I figure if he can splurge for a boatload of unbid on auctions,he could swing a pic of his link to the mothership.ANIMAL CRACKERS!
Jimmy
Bill Allan 01-26-2005, 03:11 PM I haven't broken the code yet.... but I think these listings are actually secret communiques to Al Qaeda operatives... :dunno:
Tks For Your Inquiry On This McIntosh 4200 Receiver-This Receiver Has
Been Unused Since Purchase From The Authorized McIntosh Dealer-Unit Was
Also Sent Directly After Purchase-With Incurred Additional Expenses-To
The Factory for Special Factory Optimizing To Make This Unit Be Like
Brand New and Perform the Very Best a MAC 4200 Unit Could Possibly Be
Made To Be Only By the Factory-Unit Has Also Not Been Used Since Return
From The Factory- New Panels are still sealed in the Mfr Box by The
Factory-Unit Is Being Sold for Funds To Purchase a New Interest KD34XBR2
or Other Item-No Pctures Are Available of This Unit-Payment for This
Receiver Is By Certified Advance Money Order Or Cashiers Check-Because
This Unit Is Still Factory Sealed In The Mfr Box-Unit Will Not Be
Removed From The Box-And Will Only Be Shipped Direct To The Customer By
a Shipper-Many Inquiries are being Received For This Unit-This Unit Will
Be Sold For Best Firm Offer Received-Some Current Offers Are For The
Advertised Amount-But Are Not Confirmed And Are Indefinite-You May Make
a Positive Firm Offer-If Your Offer is the Best Offer Received And
Accepted-Contact Arrangements Will Be Made to Receive Payment For Your
Offer-And Proceed With Shipping The Unit To You-Shipping Charges To
Customer- $5000. Unit Insurance-Return Delivery Receipt Will Apply-Unit
Is Complete with Owner- Service Manuals-Original Full Color Advertising
Literature. ICUSA@webtv.net
DO YOU HAVE OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE A SONY KD34XBR2 OR KD-34XBR2 TV CAN BE
OBTAINED? [LOOKING FOR STILL SEALED UNOPENED MFR BOX TO AVOID ANY
MISSING PACKAGING CONTENTS ETC...][ALSO LOOKING FOR FULL RECEPTION
OPTOELECTRONICS SPECTRUM X SWEEPER GPS][ALSO MCINTOSH 4200 RECEIVER FOR
SALE] ICUSA@WEBTV.NET
Cleve 02-10-2005, 05:57 PM Tks For Your Inquiry On This McIntosh 4200 Receiver-This Receiver Has
Been Unused Since Purchase From The Authorized McIntosh Dealer-Unit Was
Also Sent Directly After Purchase-With Incurred Additional Expenses-To
The Factory for Special Factory Optimizing To Make This Unit Be Like
Brand New and Perform the Very Best a MAC 4200 Unit Could Possibly Be
Made To Be Only By the Factory-Unit Has Also Not Been Used Since Return
From The Factory- New Panels are still sealed in the Mfr Box by The
Factory-Unit Is Being Sold for Funds To Purchase a New Interest KD34XBR2
or Other Item-No Pctures Are Available of This Unit-Payment for This
Receiver Is By Certified Advance Money Order Or Cashiers Check-Because
This Unit Is Still Factory Sealed In The Mfr Box-Unit Will Not Be
Removed From The Box-And Will Only Be Shipped Direct To The Customer By
a Shipper-Many Inquiries are being Received For This Unit-This Unit Will
Be Sold For Best Firm Offer Received-Some Current Offers Are For The
Advertised Amount-But Are Not Confirmed And Are Indefinite-You May Make
a Positive Firm Offer-If Your Offer is the Best Offer Received And
Accepted-Contact Arrangements Will Be Made to Receive Payment For Your
Offer-And Proceed With Shipping The Unit To You-Shipping Charges To
Customer- $5000. Unit Insurance-Return Delivery Receipt Will Apply-Unit
Is Complete with Owner- Service Manuals-Original Full Color Advertising
Literature. ICUSA@webtv.net
DO YOU HAVE OR DO YOU KNOW WHERE A SONY KD34XBR2 OR KD-34XBR2 TV CAN BE
OBTAINED? [LOOKING FOR STILL SEALED UNOPENED MFR BOX TO AVOID ANY
MISSING PACKAGING CONTENTS ETC...][ALSO LOOKING FOR FULL RECEPTION
OPTOELECTRONICS SPECTRUM X SWEEPER GPS][ALSO MCINTOSH 4200 RECEIVER FOR
SALE] ICUSA@WEBTV.NET
Waitamminit! His beef has been that the unit doesn't deliver "broadcast" quality from the tuner, whatever that is. Yet now he says its never been out of the box???? How the heck would he know WHAT it sounds like? Something doesn't add up.
Did anyone notice "our friends" last descriptive comments about his refurbished receiver? :lmao:
"Sound of This Receiver is Comparable to a Very Expensive Wurlitzer Jukebox."
missing_eric 03-24-2005, 06:01 AM I never did understand the 1st listing he had on it...but it looks as someone might have bought it? Still don't know but I did get a chuckle outta this!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14992&item=5769215596&rd=1
MCINTOSH 4200 RECEIVER - SPECIAL MAC 4200 RECEIVER - S/N DP 1784 - Boxed - Sealed In Factory Mac Box - Pristine - New Wood Panels Still Sealed In Box By Mfr - Chassis - Windows - All Illuminated Displays - Knobs - Buttons- Jacks - Feet - Etc.. All Clean - Clear And Perfect Throughout - No Dust Anywhere - All Like Brand New Condition - Performance On This Receiver Has Been Personally Gone Over - Okayed - Approved - By The VP Of Engineering And Technicians At The Mfr Factory - This Receiver Has Been Fully Factory Calibrated - And Fully Factory Optimized - Even Remote Cable Input Operation Checked- Everything Has Been Fully Factory Cleaned - Everything Routine Factory Service Fully Checked - Everything Performs Perfect - Just Like New 4200 Specification - VP Of Mfr - Is Quoted - Says This Unit Is The Same As A Brand New 4200 Receiver - This Receiver Was Acquired From An Authorized Mfr Dealer - This Receiver Was Sent To The VP Of Engineering At The Mfr Factory - This Receiver Has Never Been Used Since Purchase From The Authorized Mfr Dealer - This Receiver Has Also Never Been Used Since Return From The Mfr Factory - This Receiver Is Complete With Owner - Service - Manuals - Original Full Color Advertising Literature.
VintageMac 04-21-2005, 11:46 AM I'll bet the "VP Of Engineering" had fun dealing with this guy!
:no:
VintageMac
mike175gr 04-21-2005, 11:18 PM I am glad you guys are out there flagging this BS! I really hate it when these scamms go on!
Has somebody contacted Ebay to let them know?
mike175gr 04-21-2005, 11:23 PM It is also interesting to see ebay bidders with zero ratings aggressively driving up the price of certain items...
Vinyl Rules! 04-22-2005, 12:34 AM I don't think this is a scam, just an auction from someone who's elevator is permanently stuck between floors! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
30 years ago, he would have been institutionalized. Today, if they're not dangerous, they just turn them loose.
Did anybody notice the eBay catagories he listed the receiver under? *LOL*
Listed in category: Consumer Electronics > Home Audio > Speakers & Subwoofers > Center Channel Speakers
Holst 04-22-2005, 11:04 AM I've found the danger of Ebay over they years, it's not just the scam artists, and yes they are out there. But it's the hoplessly confused who have no idea what their selling and doing that probably make up the bulk. Or the victims of scams themselves who don't know it and turn around and try to profit off what they think is a windfall. On the other hand, how about a scam where the seller pretends no to know what they are doing, hopeing someone gets greedy and takes advantage of them.
"Quando omni flunkus moritati" If all else fails, play dead
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