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smokinone
02-04-2011, 10:45 AM
I am curiuos about the differences between the ATN3100 and ATN3100E stylus. I have a JVC MC-200E which I beleive is a rebadged Audio Technica AT3100 cartridge.
I have seen both the ATN3100 and the ATN3100E stated as being an Eliptical stylus, which the JVC originally came with. LPTunes lists the ATN3100 as an eliptical and Premium Parts (?) lists both a 3100 and 3100E. I beleive they are both MC cartridge stylus.
Can any one help me out here?
Thanks

ahardb0dy
03-07-2011, 03:16 PM
I would like to know this also as I need a replacement stylus for the JVC cartridge, thanks

lini
03-07-2011, 10:49 PM
Unfortunately I don't know have an exact answer either: For the majority of AT carts and (at least their newer) needles no further suffix means it's just a spherical, but I'm not 100 % sure, whether that also applies to the ATN3100. Nevertheless, if one want's to make sure it's an elliptical, it's probably safer to go for an AT3100E - though I'd suggest to consider an upgrade to the ATN3100XE as well...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

woodbend
03-27-2012, 01:29 PM
From what I have seen and derived from the Net.
The good is each Stylus features a new set of moving coils as part of the assembly.
ATN3100 Conical - I have this one about $70 -Amazon/eBay
ATN3100E Elliptical - Bonded - A guess
ATN3100XE Elliptical - Nude diamond - I have this one from a German vendor about $130
ATN3100XEII - Special Elliptical - A guess

wualta
03-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Wow, user-replaceable moving coils, in your choice of low output (the 3100s) or high (the 3200s). There's a photo of a 3100S stylus here. (http://www.woodang.net/miscellaneous.htm) NOS styli/coils still available. Why haven't we heard more about this one?

Balifly
03-27-2012, 06:09 PM
The Audio Technica AT 30E may be a very close relative. :music:
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/audio-technica/at30e.shtml

lini
03-27-2012, 08:42 PM
Earl: Similar design, but not compatible - i.e. the AT31E, AT30E (low output) as well as the AT30HE and AT50MC (high output) are a family of their own.

wualta: AT actually made quite a few different MC families with user replaceable needles. Besides the two that were already mentioned in this thread, there were at least four more (AT-UL, 312P, 3050 and 3230).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

Balifly
03-27-2012, 09:45 PM
Earl: Similar design, but not compatible - i.e. the AT31E, AT30E (low output) as well as the AT30HE and AT50MC (high output) are a family of their own.

wualta: AT actually made quite a few different MC families with user replaceable needles. Besides the two that were already mentioned in this thread, there were at least four more (AT-UL, 312P, 3050 and 3230).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

lini,

You answered my question before I had even asked !!!

Scary, scary ......... :eek: :eek: :D

lini
03-28-2012, 12:09 AM
Earl: Well, I just gave my trusty old crystal ball a good polish yesterday... ;)

Oh, and btw, there were plenty of OEM variants of these AT MCs, e.g. the Yamaha MC705 (AT3100/3200 family) - but also some incompatible ones like the Dual MCC110 and MCC120, which were pretty similar to the AT30E and AT30HE, but not quite the same, so that unfortunately the AT bodies won't accept the Dual-AT needles and vice versa.

Gretings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

wualta
03-28-2012, 01:58 AM
Cool! Now, the question is, do they offer something rilly special sonically, or are they mostly notable for having replaceable styli?

lini
03-30-2012, 02:22 AM
wualta: Completely forgot to answer that. Anyway, that's a question of taste to some degree. However, in any case most were comparatively light (compared to the majority of other MCs), not overly expensive and in most cases at least moderately highly, but in some cases also pretty highly compliant. So one of these thingies can nowadays come in pretty handy, if you're looking for a decent, not overly expensive MC or MCHO for a moderately light to very light arm. For example, for a Dual 505-2/-3/-4 an AT31E would be a pretty good choice.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

Balifly
03-30-2012, 02:34 AM
My old Audio Technica AT 30E and the AT 630 SUT came with the Luxman PD-277.

The previous owner had made a very good choice for that time period.:music:
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/audio-technica/at30e.shtml

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/luxman/pd-277.shtml

lini
03-30-2012, 03:21 AM
Luxman also offered at least one AT3100/3200 OEM rebadge btw, the 320C - I'm not sure anymore whether that was a 3200E or 3200XE, though. Iirc, Williamthakker still offered these for 99 Euro a couple of years ago, but unfortunately I've passed on the opportunity - whereas I'd grab one of these within a second now, because I know a source for a very interesting upgrade needle for these...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

Balifly
03-30-2012, 10:22 PM
Luxman also offered at least one AT3100/3200 OEM rebadge btw, the 320C - I'm not sure anymore whether that was a 3200E or 3200XE, though. Iirc, Williamthakker still offered these for 99 Euro a couple of years ago, but unfortunately I've passed on the opportunity - whereas I'd grab one of these within a second now, because I know a source for a very interesting upgrade needle for these...

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
lini,

Thanks for the information concerning the AT 3100/3200 and the re badge 320C.

Let me know if and when you see any in-expensive AT 30E replacement stylus. :D

I will keep my eyes open for some AT3100/3200 cartridges (Yamaha MC705) when I go internet window shopping. :music: