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TheRed1
08-22-2011, 07:37 PM
I made a pilgrimage up to the National Capital Radio and Television Museum yesterday to scan a couple of Fisher catalogs. The folks there have been extremely helpful with their time and patience. Standing around in their cramped foyer/office, they helped me figure out how to work their scanner just as a terrific thunderstorm commenced. A couple of the bolts of lightning were so close that they tripped their alarm system. There was speculation that one may have hit the building. Fortunately, the computer I was using was not affected although some of the scans did cut off sections of the page.

The new catalog is copyrighted 1970; I'm pretty sure it's for the 1971 model year. I've just completed an extensive review of Fisher sales literature 1966 through 1972. All of the catalogs from this period appear to have been released at the beginning of the model year, i.e.: the September of the year preceding the actual model year. So, with some new dates for the old catalogs it would seem that between my 1966, 1967, and 1971 catalogs and Larry's 1969 and 1970 catalogs; we've got almost continuous coverage.

I've just updated an old post in the Fisher Consoles 1958-1965 sticky with links to all of the Fisher catalogs as well as a price list from 1968: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3009237&postcount=182

(Note that most of the '68 models are repeats of the '67s with a "B" at the end of the cabinet code. This trend of carrying over models into the next year intensifies through the end of the 1960s and into the early 1970s.)

If anybody has ANY Fisher price list for 1969, 1970, 1971 or later - I encourage you to scan and post.

larryderouin
08-24-2011, 04:54 AM
Nice job Carter. I noticed that a lot of the model #'s got carried over, and the wattage got increased (again). Avery got a lot of mileage out of quite a few pages on those brochures (the endcaps, and the who's who, the factory shots,etc.).

Larry

TheRed1
08-24-2011, 11:10 AM
Submitted for peer review is the preliminary data for a future expansion of coverage on the Fisher Consoles (http://fisherconsoles.com/) website. I know Jon is very busy running his magazine so it might be a while before he has time to update.

As usual much credit should go to the Fisher Professor for all the work he put into compiling the database he has very kindly shared. A tip of the hat also to Larry Derouin for his unflagging enthusiasm for rescuing and rehabilitating later model Fisher consoles.

Please note that the model order is determined by price and/or stated output watts for the years I don't have price lists for: 1969, 1970 and 1971. Fisher used Peak EIA watts in their advertising literature. I have only included that information as an indicator of the model hierarchy; I am not making the claim that those numbers are realistic. The prices listed for 1969 and 1970 are the ones that were handwritten in Larry's catalogs so their authenticity is uncertain. They do appear to be plausible figures, though.

1968


ALLEGRO A-192 (W) CHASSIS: 11-R (35 WATTS) $389.50

PHILHARMONIC P-293 (W, EA, T) CHASSIS: 22-R (50 WATTS) $429.95

DIPLOMAT D-393 (W, PF, PI, EA, MD, IP) CHASSIS: 22-R (50 WATTS) $549.95

CUSTOM ELECTRA E-492 (W, CE, EA, MD, AT, ATM) CHASSIS: 21-R (90 WATTS) $649.95-699.95

REGENT R-592*B (W, CF, IP, MD) CHASSIS: 31-R (150 WATTS) $949.95-999.95

STATESMAN S-692*B (W, CF, IP, MD, MDD) CHASSIS: 31-R (150 WATTS) $1145-1195

EXECUTIVE 972*B (W, P, IP) CHASSIS: 31-R (170 WATTS) $1795-1845

PRESIDENT 9012*B (W, MD) CHASSIS: R-200-B/TX-300 (200 WATTS) $2495

DESIGNER SERIES ET-892*B (MD) CHASSIS 31-R (150 WATTS) $1995
DESIGNER SERIES WL-892*B (MD) CHASSIS 31-R (150 WATTS) $1995

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1969


ALLEGRO A-192 (W) CHASSIS: 11-R (70 WATTS) $389.50

PHILHARMONIC P-294 (W, CF, MD, EA, CE) CHASSIS: 125 (80 WATTS) $499.95-529.95

METROPOLITAN M-394 (W, IP) CHASSIS: 125-6 (80 WATTS) $650

ROYAL ELECTRA R-494 (W, EA, CF, MD) CHASSIS: 23-R (110 WATTS) $750 UP

FUTURA F-594 (EA, IP, CE, MD) CHASSIS: 24-R (160 WATTS) $895

STATESMAN S-692 (W, MD, CF, IP) CHASSIS 31-R (160 WATTS) $995

EXECUTIVE 900 MODEL 973 (W, FP, IP) CHASSIS: 550-T (200 WATTS) $1435

PRESIDENT 9013 (MD) CHASSIS: R-200-B/TX-1000 (260 WATTS) $2495

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1970


METROPOLITAN M-399 (W, IP, CF, MD) CHASSIS: 20-R (75 WATTS) $399.95-429.95

PHILHARMONIC P-294 (W, MD, CF, EA, CE) CHASSIS: 125 (90 WATTS) $499.95

CUSTOM PHILHARMONIC CP-294 (W, MD, CF, EA, CE) CHASSIS: 125/RC-70 (90 WATTS) $699.95

ROYAL ELECTRA R-494 (W, CF, MD, EA) CHASSIS: 23-R (130 WATTS) $795

FUTURA F-594 (MD, IP, FP, EA) CHASSIS 24-R (200 WATTS) $895

STATESMAN S-694 (W, MD, MDL, CF, CFL) CHASSIS: 24-R (200 WATTS) $1095 ($1195 w/ CASSETTE)

EXECUTIVE 900 MODEL 974 (W, IP, FP, MD) CHASSIS: 25-R (300 WATTS) $1595

PRESIDENT 9014 (MD) CHASSIS: 500-TX (400 WATTS) $2495

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1971


METROPOLITAN M-399 (W, IP, CF, MD) CHASSIS: 20-R (75 WATTS) $429

PHILHARMONIC P-294 (W, EA, CF, MD, IP, CE) CHASSIS: 125 (90 WATTS) $579

CUSTOM PHILHARMONIC CP-294 (W, EA, CF, MD, IP, CE) CHASSIS 125/RC-70 (90 WATTS)

ROYAL ELECTRA R-494 (W, CF, MD, EA) CHASSIS: 23-R (130 WATTS) $795

REGENT R-495 (W, CF, CFL, MD, MDL, IP) CHASSIS: 202 (150 WATTS)

STATESMAN S-695 (W, CF, CFL, MD, MDL, IP) CHASSIS: 24-R (240 WATTS) $1195

EXECUTIVE 900 MODEL 974 (W, MD, IP) CHASSIS: 25-R (300 WATTS) $1595

PRESIDENT 9014 (MD) CHASSIS: 701/CP-100 8-TRACK PLAYER (400 WATTS)

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1972-73


PHILHARMONIC P-294 (W, MD, MDL, EA, CF, CE, IP) CHASSIS: 125 (90 WATTS) $549.95-579.95

CUSTOM PHILHARMONIC CP-294 (W, MD, MDL, EA, CF, CE, IP) CHASSIS: 125/RC-70 (90 WATTS) $729.95-749.95

SQUIRE 864 (P, R) CHASSIS: 35-A (100 WATTS) $795

REGENT R-495 (W, MD, CF, IP) CHASSIS: 202 (150 WATTS) $795

PHILHARMONIC 4 MODEL P-295 (W, MD, MDL, EA, CF, CE, IP) CHASSIS: 125/TX-420 (200 WATTS) $899.95

SQUIRE 4 MODEL 865 (P, R) CHASSIS: 40 (200 WATTS) $995

STATESMAN S-695 (W, MD, MDL, CF, CFL, IP) CHASSIS: 25-R OR 250-TX (240 WATTS) $1195

EXECUTIVE 4 MODEL 975 (CF, MD) CHASSIS: 601 (300 WATTS) $1995

PRESIDENT 4 MODEL 9015/9016 (PECAN) CHASSIS: 701/CP-100 8-TRACK PLAYER (400 WATTS) $3500


The letters in parentheses after the model number are what I refer to as Fisher's "cabinet codes". They indicate the style, wood and sometimes the finish of the cabinet.

W = CONTEMPORARY IN WALNUT
T = TRANSITIONAL IN PECAN
P = PECAN
R = ROSEWOOD
EA = EARLY AMERICAN IN MAPLE
AT = AMERICAN TRADITIONAL IN CHERRY
ATM = AMERICAN TRADITIONAL IN MAHOGANY
CE = COUNTRY ENCLISH IN MAHOGANY
FP = FRENCH PROVINCIAL IN CHERRY
PI = FRENCH PROVINCIAL IN ANTIQUE WHITE
CF = COUNTRY FRENCH IN CHERRY
CFL = COUNTRY FRENCH IN LIGHT CHERRY
MD = MEDITERANNEAN IN PECAN
MDL = MEDITERANNEAN IN LIGHT PECAN
MDD = MEDITERANNEAN IN DISTRESSED PECAN (DARK)
IP = ITALIAN PROVINCIAL IN LIGHT PECAN

EDIT: I was able to fill in most of the missing prices using contemporary advertising from the NYC market which is probably valid for the East Coast. West Coast prices slightly higher.

thorenstd124
08-26-2011, 11:39 PM
So was the '73 model year,the last of the old school Fisher consoles? That seems kind of late,I thought they had turned Japanese and were all cheap components by then.

TheRed1
08-27-2011, 09:11 AM
There doesn't seem to be a real hard and fast cut-off date marking the end of "the good stuff" from Fisher during the period when it was a division of Emerson Electric Co. (which was itself a subsidiary of National Union Electric). I'm not certain when Emerson shifted production overseas or if it was the entire product line or just the less expensive models. This is Sanyo's take on it (which admittedly has some inaccuracies):
In 1973 the American company Emerson Electric asked Sanyo to help revive its subsidiary the Fisher Corporation. Fisher, acquired by Emerson in 1965, [WRONG! It was 1969!] had moved its manufacturing operations to Hong Kong due to high labor costs, but continued to suffer from quality problems. The cooperation between Emerson and Sanyo continued until May 1975, when Sanyo, which still had no American manufacturing affiliate, engineered the transfer of several Fisher product lines to Japan and rehabilitated a Fisher speaker plant at Milroy, Pennsylvania. As 50-50 partners, Sanyo and Emerson were unable to resolve numerous differences of opinion in regard to Fisher. Finally, in May 1977 Emerson agreed to sell its share in Fisher to Sanyo. That year the new, profitable Fisher Corporation moved its headquarters from New York to Los Angeles.

I know one Fisher collector who believes that 1972 was the last year for the REAL Fishers. However, it seems that a number of the '72 models carried over into 1973. So who knows? The trademark rights were transferred from Fisher Radio Corp. to Emerson Electric Co. in Apr. 1970 and then to the "Fisher Corporation" (a Delaware corporation) in Apr. 1976. It wasn't until 1988 that the trademark rights were transferred to Sanyo Fisher (USA) following some sort of merger and name change in 1987. But clearly Sanyo was behind the Fisher Corporation long before they added their name to Fisher's.

Kyluckyman
08-27-2011, 11:11 AM
My family had a Fisher console system back in the early 1960's. I recall it had a Garrard turntable and a big arm and was made to stack records. When it was taken out of service in the late 1970's I took the speakers out and made seperates out of them. Worked great for a number of years.

thorenstd124
08-31-2011, 11:21 AM
There doesn't seem to be a real hard and fast cut-off date marking the end of "the good stuff" from Fisher during the period when it was a division of Emerson Electric Co. (which was itself a subsidiary of National Union Electric). I'm not certain when Emerson shifted production overseas or if it was the entire product line or just the less expensive models. This is Sanyo's take on it (which admittedly has some inaccuracies):


I know one Fisher collector who believes that 1972 was the last year for the REAL Fishers. However, it seems that a number of the '72 models carried over into 1973. So who knows? The trademark rights were transferred from Fisher Radio Corp. to Emerson Electric Co. in Apr. 1970 and then to the "Fisher Corporation" (a Delaware corporation) in Apr. 1976. It wasn't until 1988 that the trademark rights were transferred to Sanyo Fisher (USA) following some sort of merger and name change in 1987. But clearly Sanyo was behind the Fisher Corporation long before they added their name to Fisher's.

I was talking to someone at a record show a few weeks ago,who told me that he thinks anything that says "THE Fisher",says "Fisher Radio Corporation",has a Long Island address,and has no mention of Japan on the back,is worth picking up.Which was sort of what I thought.

I am not that up on the components they made, other than the classics,the 101,the 100,what have you.I am still learning about the speakers,obviously.I saw a thread here,from 2006,that implied that there were models of Fisher gear,especially speakers,that were made after Emerson took over the company,and for the speakers going by weight,is the best clue if they are any good or not.

TheRed1
09-01-2011, 12:33 PM
I was talking to someone at a record show a few weeks ago,who told me that he thinks anything that says "THE Fisher",says "Fisher Radio Corporation",has a Long Island address,and has no mention of Japan on the back,is worth picking up.Which was sort of what I thought.Using the "The" as an sign of worthiness is problematic. Beginning with the Technical Analysis brochure that Avery Fisher donated to the Smithsonian (along with a 701 4-channel receiver and 4 WS-80 speakers) that is copyrighted 1970 and may refer to the 1971 model year; some Fishers had the "The Fisher" badge and some just said "Fisher". For instance, the flagship 701 just said "Fisher" but the 500-TX, 450-T and 250-TX are all pictured with "The Fisher" badges. Also the 701 is described in a Smithsonian condition report from 2003 as having "Fisher Radio - N.Y." printed along with the power requirements on the back panel.

The push to remove the "The" from "The Fisher" actually started while Avery Fisher was still at the helm. It may have been an attempt to freshen up their image or perhaps they just wanted their corporate identity to reflect how most of the public all ready referred to them as just: FISHER. They filed to trademark "FISHER" in 1965. They were turned down twice. It wasn't until Dec. 3, 1968, after Avery himself filed an extensive affidavit (recommended reading for Fisher fans: pages 13-16) (http://tdr.uspto.gov/jsp/DocumentViewPage.jsp?72210115/UNC20081106065820/Unclassified/24/04-Nov-2008/sn/false#p=13) explaining how all his customers referred to his products as "Fisher" and then fighting off an "opposition" from Aeolian American Corp.; that the trademark was finally granted.

I don't have much information from 1972 but it does appear that by 1973 the "The" was finally laid to rest and it was just "Fisher" from then on. I do not know if that corresponds with the end of classic Fisher gear or not. I suspect it does, though - more or less.

Side note: The "Studio-Standard" trademark was filed for on Dec. 18, 1972 and registered on Oct. 18, 1974.