View Full Version : "Return of the King" or "Revenge of the Sith"??
Andyman 05-21-2005, 10:28 PM I asked my 13 year old this and she unhesitatingly replied Sith. She may have done it only to get me to take her to see it again (I haven't seen it yet), but it made me wonder.
So, which one did you like better?
Could be like asking prime rib of filet mignion; no losers either way :yes:
PS. Hold the spoilers please for us who haven't seen both yet.
Filmboydoug 05-21-2005, 10:41 PM Special effects were a tie. Acting, story, screenplay all go to return of the king. Plus, Lucas really is not a very good director. But I did really enjoy Sith and will see it at least twice more.
And George Lucas absolutely positively cannot write a love scene.
I haven't seen Sith yet but I am sure I'll agree with Doug, people who have seen the movie all say the same thing, bad acting, bad story, great action and special effects ;)
Filmboydoug 05-22-2005, 11:21 AM I don't think the story was necessarily bad, but then again it isn't from excellent literature either.
VinylHanger 05-22-2005, 12:28 PM If the last 2 Star Wars movies were any indication....... I will have to force myself to get through Sith as well. Too much special effects, the first ones looked like you could build an X-wing and fly it, now it is all obviously fake and intangible. How much fun would Chewie be if he had started out as a computer animation? Anybody remember the movie Zulu? All the Zulu's storming Roarke's Drift (sp)? How much fun would it be to see a remake of it and know htat they were all sitting in a studio and all that was charging them was..... well, nothing? Or a John Wayne movie where they are shooting at Indians that aren't there, or charging Iwo Jima and there isn't really a beach there? They say that digital special effects are the wave of the future, well I suppose I will have to keep watching Barney, at least the Barney show has a real person in a fake dinosaur :D
Anyway, rant over. I'm going back to watching Ghost in the Shell, I expect fake effects when it's a cartoon. :yes:
Fast_Eddie 05-22-2005, 01:34 PM I don't think the story was necessarily bad, but then again it isn't from excellent literature either.
I think that's what's cool about the whole Star Wars deal. They didn't exist before. That's not to diminish the acomplishment of TLOTR. Amazing movies, but they got a pretty fair head start with some pretty cool books. Lucas brought something into the world that didn't exist before. Somehthing that could be said best with technology that didn't exist before. Is it great literature. I'd have to say no. But I'm glad he made it!
Ed
Andyman 05-22-2005, 06:02 PM I just got back from "Sith" and will have to give my vote to "King", mainly for all the reasons cited above. "Sith" really is the best of the first three, and the effects are overwhelming, but effects aside, "King" is just on a totally higher level. "King" just seems to be more real and much less cartoonish; if that's possible from a fantasy pic. Try as it may, the actors in "Sith" still don't warm up to me like Luke, Han, Alec Guiness's Obi-Wan, and Leia, although Yoda still rocks.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll see "Sith" several more times and buy the DVD, but the entire LOTR series has set such a high standard for excellence that I anxiously await ANY film that measures up to it.
Oh, is it just me, or does Hayden Christensen got some Steve McQueen scowls/looks or what???
And the guy who's leading the troops on that planet with the big pit is Commander Cody??? Well, Beat Me Daddy, 8 to the Bar!!
BTW, no "War of the Worlds" trailer at my showing, but lots of sci-fi/fantasy/adventure eye candy including "Narnia", "Sharkboy and LavaGirl" (yep??), "Fantastic Four", and "Stealth"
Narnia looks interesting, I tried reading them books several times as a teenager but just could never get into them. Hope it's better than Lemony Snickets, I watched that this weekend and was very underwhelmed :yes:
You know that Jackson will make a prequel all his own just like Lucas, you just know he is going to do The Hobbit at some point ;) He's going to have to to save his reputation after King Kong turns out to be a turd just like Godzilla ;)
Andyman 05-22-2005, 08:06 PM He's going to have to to save his reputation after King Kong turns out to be a turd just like Godzilla ;)
It's quite possible Jackson has set the bar so high with LOTR he'll never be able to eclipse it. :yes:
BTW, I thought the new Godzilla was entertaining. It also appears that the original was re-released as it was cut for the Japanese audience, where it was a bit more graphic and pointed in it's ecological commentary. It really was quite a serious movie over there, not the camp flick it became over here
As a HUGE Godzilla fan growing up, I still catch the old ones on cable sometimes, I actually love the new Godzilla up to a point, I think the movie rocked up until the whole, it's female!, where are the eggs?, and then the little godzillas hatching thing was totally aburdedly done, shame that a 50 story tall godzilla can look more realistic and believeable than a bunch of man sized ones.
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