offer pre-out/mains in?

ones I own that have this feature include
2000x
3300
qr4500
qr6500
My 8080 is buried in a cabinet, but I think it does, I think the 4000 does too....
casey :thmbsp:

:) My Sansui Eight has 'em.

Is the wattage from the 2000 conservatively rated?
I have my eye on one, but know nothing about these.
Haven't owned a receiver since mid 80's.

Balthazarr,
Don't hold me to this exactly but seems it's around 35 watts rms. It's adequate unless you're driving something very ineffecient. The biggest thing to me about most of the "pre-Eight Deluxe" receivers is the difference of sound between them and the "direct coupled" amps. Sound more "tube-like" to me which I enjoy personally. The older receivers had as well mediocre fm tuners but in the case of the 2000 thru the Eight, really decent am tuners compared to what followed. Don't know if this is of interest to ya or more than you want.

Ron

Most Sansui receivers have pre outs main ins. What model were you considering?

- Pete

Most Sansui receivers have pre outs main ins. What model were you considering?

- Pete


2000A.
I went to Sansui site to read up on this and I see THD is supposed to be less than 0.8%.
Isn't the threshold for human audibility about 0.1 %?

That's a fairly early solid state receiver. There were lots of improvements during the 70's. The receivers from the mid to late 70's are worlds better that the receivers from the early half of the decade. Keep in mind that a nice 2000A should set you back no more that $50. It is a lot of receiver for the money. Don't get too caught up in technical specifications. Just get it and use it.

- Pete

Does that include shipping?

Maybe, it just depends on what you find.

- Pete

Hi Balthazarr
Specs from brochures

2000 2 x 32W/8 ohms
2000A 2 x 35W/8 ohms
2000X 2 x 39W/8 ohms

Isn't the threshold for human audibility about 0.1 %?

No, such a good ears no one can have

Stene, correct it is about 1%.
I knew there was a "1" in there though. lol

The 2000 doen't have pre outs, but he 2000a does. Funky thing about the 2000a is it has two phono inputs, but they have different impeadance, one is the standard 47k ohm, forget what the other was, but it one of the hair brain ideas they came up with in the early days.

X

Back in 1971 I got my first Sansui, a 2000A. It still works, and sounds fine. According to the Operating Instructions (Specifications) the Input Sensitivity of Phono 1 and 2 is 2.5 mV (50k ohms). The input Impedance of Phono 1 is 50k ohms, Phono 2 is 100k ohms, Quote:"creating different tone colors from each other. Use them according to your taste and preference".

My big G-9700 did NOT have pre in/main out plugs. That was the one thing I held against it. Otherwise, a super receiver with 200 clean clean wpc. Maybe they figured with 200 watts on tap, who would need an outboard amp.
BTW, I believe I have heard the figure 0.7% THD is the threshold for hearing distortion.

I have a 2000 and a 2000A both are good receivers. Built very nicely, and a lot heavier than the power ratings suggest. I use the 2000A as part of one of my living room systems, which considering some of the stuff I have, should give you an idea of how I regard its performance.

As far as getting them cheap? I paid $12 or so for the 2000A and got the 2000 for free.

The different input impedences were put there to allow you to match up with your choice of phono cartridge. If I remember correctly a Shure was typically rated at 47K ohms for optimum. Others were different.
Each person has different criteria as to what is optimum for a tuner. But I have had and used my 5000A since 1968/69 when I bought it in Nam. I have no complaints. The tuner is better than the signal from most stations these days.....
And as for the amplifier section and seperates from the same era, they do not suffer from the excessive negative feedback found in the newer units made during the "spec wars".
But your choices and tastes will also depend on what you like to listen to. I am into jazz, but not hard rock.

I like detail with strength.
Quality is what I'm interested in.

I listen to fusion and prog rock as well as "alternative" and stuff from Windham Hill. (Ackerman, Shadowfax etc)
This piece I want is for a 2nd system and I want versatility so if not satisfied with power, I can use a dedicated amp to boost.

My Sansui Six, and 1000x both have pre-outs and main-ins.

"And as for the amplifier section and seperates from the same era, they do not suffer from the excessive negative feedback found in the newer units made during the "spec wars"." That's along the lines of what I've read. When Sansui went to SS they did so with "Tube Sound" in mind. They supposedly wouldn't release a SS that sounded inferior to TS, to maintain their reputation. When the "Watt Wars" started, the SS sound did suffer.

Does the X0X0 series have this jumper feature?
I know somone posted the 8080 ( currently in a cabinet) might have them.

Yes the 8080 has pre outs mains in.

Ron

How about the rest such as 7070?

I cant tell with that model I would think so.

Ron

OK, are the inputs marked pre-out/mains in on yours or dolby 4 ch?

Its marked pre/out Main/in the 4ch Adp is separate.

Ron

Thanks alot, needed that info badly.

Your vary welcome.

Ron

g-9000db has pre in / main outs

You mean pre-out/ mains in?