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Wardsweb 06-15-2005, 10:46 PM Artist - Dave Brubeck
Title - Time Out
Year of Release - 1959
Record Label - Legacy Recordings
Genre - Jazz
This is one of the all time greats. I'm sure you have heard it. If you haven't your missing something very special. For you vinyl guys, the album takes this recording to the next level. Take Five is truely breath taking.
CarlV 06-15-2005, 10:53 PM Have you heard the 45 edition Wards? I've been contemplating pulling the trigger on a set.
Carl
One of my all time favorite albums. Got hooked on it when I was a little boy. My brother has the 45 set. Well worth the extra bux. :yes:
OvenMaster 06-16-2005, 05:38 AM I found a cd of this at the library a month ago and liked it so much I burned my own copy. At 46, it's my first jazz album and I love it. I found "Love Songs" (2000, Columbia Legacy) just yesterday afternoon and will be burning that one too!
Tom
VintageNut 06-16-2005, 07:12 AM I At 46, it's my first jazz album and I love it.
You been in jail or something? first jazz album at 46? you best be catching up. It's practically un-American not to like Jazz, and I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of the Patriot Act to listen to at least one jazz album by the age of 18
lfender 06-16-2005, 07:15 AM I have been listening to Take Five the last couple days. Sonically pleasing in every way. The instruments sound so live. I bought the 20-bit re-mastered cd version when it came out and ran across it the other day and started listening again. I don't have it on vinyl but I would certainly recommend this re-mastered version. :D
OvenMaster 06-16-2005, 07:21 AM You been in jail or something? first jazz album at 46? you best be catching up. It's practically un-American not to like Jazz, and I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of the Patriot Act to listen to at least one jazz album by the age of 18
Nope, just finally discovering jazz as I mature. I've already branched out into a bit of opera and classical, so here's one more area I'm discovering. Most of my life I've enjoyed pop and rock music, but maturing does have advantages:D. Next up on my list is Jimmy Smith, Miles Davis, Lionel Hampton, Joey DeFrancesca, and a whole lot more.
Tom
lfender 06-16-2005, 07:23 AM Oh, and also, it was released the year I was born and I've always connected with things from that year. This album's as old as I am!
And Donald Fagen mentions Brubeck in his song "The New Frontier" on his first solo album from 1982. Anybody else familiar with this reference?
Donald Fagen mentions Brubeck in his song "The New Frontier" on his first solo album from 1982. Anybody else familiar with this reference? Yep. :yes:
Justen 06-16-2005, 07:49 AM It's practically un-American not to like Jazz, and I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of the Patriot Act to listen to at least one jazz album by the age of 18
Nah, the Patriot Act requires we only listen to Southern Gospel (none of this namby-pamby middle of the road Protestant hymns) and certain country artists. Introspective, thought provoking music are certainly not allowed...you might develop a thought!
OvenMaster 06-16-2005, 09:19 AM Heaven forbid THAT happens! :lmao:
Tom
jcmjrt 06-16-2005, 10:29 AM That's the main album that turned me on to Jazz years ago. I loved it then and I love it now.
Drybasement 06-16-2005, 11:27 AM I think this was my first jazz album other than a jazz fusion rekkid. I was really into the whole jazz/rock fusion thing prior to buying this. Anyway, I bought it because I knew Take Five and wanted to hear it again. Turns out the whole thing is wonderful. I've gots lots of Brubeck now. Jazz at Oberlin is great. The sequel to Time Out, Time Further Out is a must. Even his recent stuff is very good.
If you like jazz on the "cool" side of things Brubeck is a must.
I found a cd of this at the library a month ago and liked it so much I burned my own copy. At 46, it's my first jazz album and I love it. I found "Love Songs" (2000, Columbia Legacy) just yesterday afternoon and will be burning that one too!
Tom
if you like an artist (or record label), why not go out and buy the album? After all, the sale of their music is how they stay alive to make more of it...
I know, I know, that's crazy talk!
ProAc_Fan 06-16-2005, 04:03 PM if you like an artist (or record label), why not go out and buy the album? After all, the sale of their music is how they stay alive to make more of it...
I know, I know, that's crazy talk!
Huh its always been my understanding that artists make money touring and record companies make money selling CD's.
Mike
dmax99 06-16-2005, 04:55 PM I love "Time Out",another one from the "Time" series that I really like is "Time In"....David
nitrous 06-16-2005, 06:13 PM I've got 2 vinyl copies of Time Out and the cd version (thanks to my local library.) And I happened to find a radio station promo copy of the Dave Brubeck Quartet at Carnegie Hall 2 LP set from '63 in excellent condition.
Nice!
OvenMaster 06-16-2005, 10:21 PM I don't want to turn this into a thread on buying vs. ripping, but I'll buy a CD if I can't borrow it from the library to burn a copy because I am on a very tight budget. I refuse to pay full price for any CD if I can possibly help it.... to get my money, it had better be damn good! I hate buying a cd that ends up sucking or there's just two or three good tunes on it. Just because it's an artist I like, or MIGHT like, that doesn't automatically mean it will be great. Not all cd's or lp's from artists are gold. I've bought far too many that were disappointments, and I want to keep my losses to a minimum. To me, music is not some throwaway thing, but an investment. I cannot afford to just casually say "Oh, well, that CD sucked. But at least I got a $15 coaster!"
Just for laughs, I bought Jimmy Smith's Finest Hour tonight for $13 at Barnes & Noble. THAT was worth paying for!
Tom
Huh its always been my understanding that artists make money touring and record companies make money selling CD's.
Mike
It's true artists make money touring.
It's also true that record labels make money selling CDs.
But, while there are a million variations on artists' deals with their label, they almost always include a royalty to the artist based on sales of the album.
In any event, I personally find it a funny way to show appreciation of the artist, songwriter (yeah, they get a slice too) and the label that manages them to deny them the income they deserve, and earned.
"And that's all I've got to say about that."
VinylHanger 06-17-2005, 04:33 AM I've always wondered why nobody got upset when we used to buy an album and record it for our friends on tape. Or dub one tape to another in our dual cassette decks. I don't remember anybody saying that "all these darn cassette dubs are the reason we aren't making any money"
Anyway, sorry to thread crap Wards,I was just wondering.
Back to Brubesk. I found this album at a garage sale and it is in my always played rotation. I have the HDCD as well and it is great, but the vinyl is awesome indeed, and clean vinyl is thrilling to say the least.
OvenMaster 06-17-2005, 04:53 AM What amazes me about Time Out is that it sounds just as great as the stuff that's new, even though Time Out is as old as I am. Either he was WAY ahead of his time, or else it shows how good music never ages. I'd like to think both. It's really fun to discover this stuff. :yes:
Tom
grumpy 06-17-2005, 05:11 AM Its so easy to find a decent 6 eye version of this LP that will easily stomp any CD out there. You owe to yourself to find one and listen !
My wife and I went to hear Brubeck at the Newport Jazz Festival a few years ago (co-headlining with Bobby Short...what a night!). It was a marvelous concert.
Inspired by this thread (thanks Wardsweb) I just bought the Time Out LP, which had hitherto been a missing link in my jazz library.
tcdriver 09-03-2005, 11:08 AM Time Out is also available on SACD that make use of the three front channels. This album is indeed a classic. Even the cover art is great.
Andyman 09-03-2005, 02:28 PM Look what I snagged this week!!
Time Out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=4762901322)
Too bad it's not 7 1/2 ips, but this should be a nice treat an the Akai. :thmbsp:
grumpy 09-03-2005, 02:39 PM Oh Man. You lucky dog !!!!
Congrats :)
uofmtiger 09-03-2005, 02:50 PM Love this album. I recently bought the heavy vinyl version and it sounds fantastic. :banana:
scubaguy10 03-02-2007, 02:08 PM Not only is this album great, but some of the solo Desmond stuff is also fantastic. I found a used copy of the Paul Desmond album "Skylark", that includes "Take Ten", a version of Take Five in 10/8 time (whatever that means, I'm not a musician). Great record.
mhardy6647 03-02-2007, 02:36 PM 10/8 is "the same" as 5/4 time; 5 beats to the measure.
slow_jazz 03-02-2007, 02:41 PM one of my all time greats there.
i have the remastered cd edition and really love it.
BULLWINKLE 03-02-2007, 08:13 PM One of the landmark albums. Have both the 6 eye mono and stereo. Love it! Can't decide which sounds the best; maybe.... both.
If you like Time Out, you'll like the Carnegie Hall concert album too.
KentTeffeteller 05-04-2008, 12:36 PM Hi,
One of my first exposures to good jazz when I was young. Essential album which blazed new trails with unusual rhythm and drums. Superb recording and one of the best demo records ever. Recorded at Columbia's 30th. Street NYC church studio by Fred Plaut. Excellent in both mono and stereo. I like the mono vinyl in 6-eye best. The mono was also recorded at 30 IPS. If you love this, you'll love "Time Further Out" which was the followup.
vinyldavid 05-04-2008, 01:46 PM I got it at the GW because I had heard of it, and I loved it...been buying jazz whenever I can now.
BTW, anyone else have the 7.5ips Factory R2R (it's in stereo)? THAT is some serious sound quality. beats the LP by a mile.
jazzwolf 05-04-2008, 02:21 PM I got it at the GW because I had heard of it, and I loved it...been buying jazz whenever I can now.
BTW, anyone else have the 7.5ips Factory R2R (it's in stereo)? THAT is some serious sound quality. beats the LP by a mile.
You have to listen to an original clean 6 eye as opposed to the later reissues. I've never heard a R2R version but I doubt that it's as good as the original.
vinyldavid 05-04-2008, 02:28 PM You have to listen to an original clean 6 eye as opposed to the later reissues. I've never heard a R2R version but I doubt that it's as good as the original.
I have the 2 eye....
jazzwolf 05-04-2008, 03:44 PM Never heard the 2 eye but they are generally very good. I have an original 6 eye (and another is on the way) that sounds beautiful and I have a twice played early 80's copy that sounds like crap. You can actually hear the tape hiss on it.
KentTeffeteller 05-04-2008, 04:56 PM Hi,
The 4-track 7 1/2 IPS tape is very fine. You need an early duplication with pie-shaped labels. The 2 track 7 1/2 IPS tape is even better. It's also severely expensive now and has fewer tracks than the LP.
Here is a keeper for you, the Blu Ray dvd - Legends of Jazz with Ramsey Lewis it has a very good version of "Take Five" by the duo of Al Jarreau/Kurt Elling. Excellent picture quality and very good audio. :thmbsp: Check it out, you will not be disappointed. :yes:
Zeromancer 06-11-2008, 10:32 AM Dave Brubeck - Concord On A Summer Night is an amazing album as well!!!
It is also on SACD format.
KeninDC 06-11-2008, 10:44 AM Have both the 6 eye mono and stereo. Love it! Can't decide which sounds the best; maybe.... both.
I vote for stereo on this one, but it is close. I have the original pressing six-eye mono w/o the big lettering after "Take Five" was a hit.
Millions of copies were sold, so anyone with a TT owes it to themselves to locate a six-eye stereo. So alive. So real.
Jazz Goes to College, which I just picked up on CD, is an excellent insight into Brubeck's early work.
Huh its always been my understanding that artists make money touring and record companies make money selling CD's.
Mike
Close, the good ones make money on both. In fact, the main reason for touring is to sell the album in most cases...
The bad ones never cover their advance or initial costs to record. Advance!? What was I thinking of?? :D That's sooo last Tuesday!
Speaking of "Take Five", I ran across the original mono 45 edit of it the other day. Columbia was about the only label that could do decent editing without ruining the flow of a song.
jazzwolf 06-14-2008, 10:11 AM Speaking of "Take Five", I ran across the original mono 45 edit of it the other day. Columbia was about the only label that could do decent editing without ruining the flow of a song.
Never heard the 45 version but I wouldn't be surprised if it was edited by Teo Macero. He could do amazing things when he edited. All you have to do is hear Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew" and "In A Silent Way" and then hear the "Complete" recordings. The man was a real genius on the cutting room floor.
Jack Lord 06-14-2008, 08:47 PM Great stuff and Dave Brubeck is still out there and touring. I saw him a couple of years ago at the National Cathederal. An atmospheric experience. The man has not lost a step.
wajobu 06-14-2008, 09:00 PM An incredibly "live" recording. I love it.
Sondek 10-13-2008, 10:31 PM Nope, just finally discovering jazz as I mature. I've already branched out into a bit of opera and classical, so here's one more area I'm discovering. Most of my life I've enjoyed pop and rock music, but maturing does have advantages:D. Next up on my list is Jimmy Smith, Miles Davis, Lionel Hampton, Joey DeFrancesca, and a whole lot more.
Tom
As a former jazz-hater, I want to recommend to you the album that go me into jazz when I was about 10-years younger than you are now...
'Kind of Blue'
Miles Davis
Still one of my favourite albums; period. Enjoy...
:D
-Sondek
Like "Time Out", "Kind of Blue" is essential. :yes:
ablethevoice 10-14-2008, 10:01 AM I'm loving this thread. It was Brubeck that broke me away from being a R&R only kind of guy when I was about 13. Now, I have more jazz than R&R in my collection ('course, I'm a few decades older than 13 and can appreciate all music a lot more than in 1973)
I gotta ask though: You guys are saying 2-eye and 6-eye... WTF?? I have no idea what you are referring to with this eye talk.
Indeed, a Classic Album!
Rome
KeninDC 10-14-2008, 10:11 AM A "two-eye" ought to be self-explanatory.
ablethevoice 10-14-2008, 10:17 AM OK... it's the label. What's the significance of the various eye count? Honestly, I don't know. I'd never realized there was a difference. Is it a later pressing? Different amount of vinyl? different grade of vinyl? It has been literally decades since I owned any vinyl. I now have 2 LP's and nothing to play them on but I never really paid much attention to an album's label even in the day when I did have a lot of vinyl.
NikkoUser 12-06-2008, 06:09 PM Originally Posted by lfender
Donald Fagen mentions Brubeck in his song "The New Frontier" on his first solo album from 1982. Anybody else familiar with this reference?
That's wierd. I just bought that album today. I didn't even know who Donald Fagen was until 5 hours ago!.
OK... it's the label. What's the significance of the various eye count? Honestly, I don't know. I'd never realized there was a difference. Is it a later pressing? Different amount of vinyl? different grade of vinyl? It has been literally decades since I owned any vinyl. I now have 2 LP's and nothing to play them on but I never really paid much attention to an album's label even in the day when I did have a lot of vinyl.
Six Eye's are earlier than the Two Eye's. Earlier pressings have a better chance of having been mastered from the actual master tape, rather than a second generation backup tape.
RT Fan 12-18-2008, 11:01 AM Alto sax player Paul Desmond, when asked to describe his playing, said it sounded "Like a dry martini." An apt description if I ever heard one. I have always found Desmond's playing soothing and an essential component to the Quartet's sound. I like the song "Three to get Ready" from the Time Out album, which is a must have record for any jazz collection.
Dr. Music 12-21-2008, 03:03 PM Here is a keeper for you, the Blu Ray dvd - Legends of Jazz with Ramsey Lewis it has a very good version of "Take Five" by the duo of Al Jarreau/Kurt Elling. Excellent picture quality and very good audio. :thmbsp: Check it out, you will not be disappointed. :yes:
Actually all of the Legends of Jazz with Ramsey Lewis DVD releases are great; I wrote reviews for them on the DVDTalk website. What's very cool about them is the standard DVDs come with an audio only CD disc as well. You get Brubeck doing Take The 'A' Train with Billy Taylor :)
jn229 12-21-2008, 04:13 PM When I got back into vinyl, I knew there were 3 jazz albums I would be buying new rather than chancing used.
Oscar Peterson’s Night Train
Miles Davis’s Kind of Blue
Dave Brubeck's Time Out
‘Time Out’ arrived this past Friday. Xmas coming early!
:music:
beans 12-21-2008, 04:22 PM I have Time Out on the greates-tits album. Excellent track :yes:
Yes, though I think the quote was, "I thought that I had it in the back of my head that I wanted to sound like a dry martini."
I am quite fond of the "Storyville: 1954" album. Though the sonics are not very good, the playing is elegant, sophisticated, and impeccable and is most befitting of Desmond's analogy. :)
Alto sax player Paul Desmond, when asked to describe his playing, said it sounded "Like a dry martini." An apt description if I ever heard one. I have always found Desmond's playing soothing and an essential component to the Quartet's sound. I like the song "Three to get Ready" from the Time Out album, which is a must have record for any jazz collection.
chicks 01-21-2009, 10:27 AM When I got back into vinyl, I knew there were 3 jazz albums I would be buying new rather than chancing used.
Oscar Peterson’s Night Train
Miles Davis’s Kind of Blue
Dave Brubeck's Time Out
My top three choices, too, in that order!
If you like to spin vinyl, the Classic Records 45rpm reissue of Time Out is phenomenal. Four single-sided LPs (seems a bit wasteful) means that you're changing LPs frequently, but I've never heard another version on CD or LP sound as good.
Wickedly expensive at $100. Ask for it for your birthday. :music:
jimdandy 01-21-2009, 10:52 PM I've got to chime in on this thread -- I only got the jazz bug about six months ago when I made it a point to try and broaded my musical horizons. I printed off a list of the Top 100 Jazz albums of all time and started from there.
My first two purchases were Time Out and Kind of Blue. I was hooked after those two albums. Since then, I've added:
Coltrane: Giant Steps, Love Supreme, Blue Train
Miles Davis: A Silent Way
Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage, Emperyian Isles
Art Blakey: Moanin
Charles Mingus: Ah Um
And a few others.
I feel like I owe the albums Time Out and Kind of Blue a big "thank you" to reeling me in to music I had no idea existed a year ago.
SpeakerLabFan 01-21-2009, 11:14 PM I feel like I owe the albums Time Out and Kind of Blue a big "thank you" to reeling me in to music I had no idea existed a year ago.
Great choices. Man, if Time Out and Kind Of Blue don't open up the jazz horizon, it might be time to have the doctor check the ear canals.
i've played 'time out' twice in the last 2 weeks. sometimes i just cant get enough of it.
Arkay 01-21-2009, 11:48 PM Time Out has been a favorite of mine for YEARS... I think I fell in love with "Take Five" the first time I heard it, when I was only about five myself. I STILL love it, decades later. Musical tastes usually change over the years, but there is just something 'special' about that timeless classic. Sheer genius!
Not long ago, when I went to buy my NS-1000Ms, the guy in the shop first demo'd them with some Canto-pop thing that had been in his CD player. When I commented that I hoped part of what I was hearing on the highs was in the recording, and not the speakers, he was smart enough to pop in "Time Out" and punch it over to "Take Five". I knew within seconds that the drivers were all fine, but listened through the song and had him play it again "to make sure"... because it just sounded so GOOD, even in the digital version.
The vinyl at home? Just heavenly soul-balm, IMO...
After reading this thread, I think I'll go look for a couple more of the mentioned versions I don't have, to compare! :thmbsp:
Oh, and "Kind of Blue" is another favorite classic. They don't come much better than these for all-round Jazz music quality!
I first listened to the "Take Five" track on the radio quite a few years ago. I didn't catch the artist or track name but the tune got imprinted in my mind. I was looking for it for years, until it appeared in a late night radio broadcast with an extensive introduction about Dave Brubeck. And when the tune eventually started - I had no idea what to expect other than some carefuly selected tune - ... revelation. I found my rainbow's end.
Next day I went out and bought the CD. And now, almost two decades later, I still enjoy the full album as well as everything Brubeck.
Alas, no vinyl version. But I do have an SACD version still waiting for a proper room and speakers to enjoy.
monitor3 03-04-2009, 01:43 AM My vinyl copy of Time Out is one of my favorites. I have only been collecting vinyl for one short year and this record sounds the best of any I have. The performance and recording are both so pleasing!
I'm glad somebody else asked about the "eyes" because I am just now learning about all of the different pressings available in vinyl. My copy is a stereo mix and it doesn't have any eyes - well, there are 6 - but not in the way that they are referred to here! It's a little lightweight too . . . anybody have any insight on this pressing?
70/80's era pressing David.
KeninDC 03-04-2009, 10:34 AM I listened to my six-eye in stereo (I prefer the stereo version) last night. My wife commented on how good such an old LP sounded.
dokblues 03-12-2009, 09:26 PM I too love this album and have had it for years. I play it alot and it still impresses me.
Divotdog 09-02-2009, 10:00 PM I have the six eye version, an absolutely magnificent recording and a must have for any music lover! :yes:
Sam Cogley 09-03-2009, 09:46 AM My copy is a two-eye (thanks, Finnbow!) and it has incredible sound quality. I have the two follow-ups in the original 6-eye pressings, and I always have my eyes open (so to speak) for a 6-eye "Time Out" in great shape.
KeninDC 09-03-2009, 11:32 AM I accidently put on one of my two six-eye mono copies (I'm bragging) last night, thinking it was my stereo copy.
If you like Morello's drumming, WOW! Right smack in the center during "Take Five."
Ken
TNRabbit 09-03-2009, 11:49 AM Oh, and also, it was released the year I was born and I've always connected with things from that year. This album's as old as I am!
And Donald Fagen mentions Brubeck in his song "The New Frontier" on his first solo album from 1982. Anybody else familiar with this reference?
Yep. :yes:
Absolutely; Fagen is another STELLAR perfomer/recording artist~
Time Out is also available on SACD that make use of the three front channels. This album is indeed a classic. Even the cover art is great.
I have this SACD and it is AWESOME.
john72953 09-03-2009, 11:51 AM I have the original European pressing (Dutch) that my father gave me years ago. It was my introduction into Jazz. Must dig through my vinyl and check on the catelogue # and issue date for authenticity.
John
Dynacophil 09-03-2009, 11:57 AM You been in jail or something? first jazz album at 46? you best be catching up. It's practically un-American not to like Jazz, and I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of the Patriot Act to listen to at least one jazz album by the age of 18
not only un-american, I'd say un-human!
toxcrusadr 09-03-2009, 12:22 PM Got to see Brubeck about 5 years ago. He walked a little slow to the piano but there was no arthritis in those hands once he began to play. At one point he was introducing one of his odd time tunes and he started by saying, "Some of you know I have always been interested in odd time signatures." Full ovation! He's a legend for that, it changed the face of jazz.
stoutblock 09-09-2009, 09:37 PM Time Out is also available on SACD that make use of the three front channels. This album is indeed a classic. Even the cover art is great.
A great SACD!
33&athird 10-26-2009, 06:01 PM I accidently put on one of my two six-eye mono copies (I'm bragging) last night, thinking it was my stereo copy.
If you like Morello's drumming, WOW! Right smack in the center during "Take Five."
Ken
Are the mono six-eye pressings rare?...I got one not more than 3 weeks ago for $5 or so. Best $5 I have ever spent. That recording is not only one of the formost of jazz, but of recording as well. I am not sure about the stereo version (is it true stereo or split-channel mono?), but my mono copy is in great shape, and still has phenominal sound. Considering when it came out, it must have really been something. Of my 4 jazz albums (hey, we all start somewhere) its in the top 3 (first is "Pete Rugolo plays Stan Kenton", and 2nd and 3rd are tied with "Time Out" and Pete Rugolo's "Music for hi-fi bugs"), and some weird zenith jazz:red hot and cool compilation.
I gotta say, you tell some people you like Brubeck, and they don't get it, you tell them you like "time out", they don't know what it is...you ask if they have heard "take five" and they say they haven't...then you play it and they go "ohhhh that song". I think that proves how influential it is, even if a person doesn't know jazz, they know "take five".
KeninDC 10-26-2009, 06:06 PM Are the mono six-eye pressings rare?
No. Neither are stereo versions. That's the beauty of this LP.
Ken
toxcrusadr 10-27-2009, 12:08 PM Funny this thread popped up. I was just listening to this in the car today. Well, it was a cassette, so I don't know how many eyes it had. Sounds great though.
greenmark59 10-27-2009, 12:16 PM You been in jail or something? first jazz album at 46? you best be catching up. It's practically un-American not to like Jazz, and I'm pretty sure it's a requirement of the Patriot Act to listen to at least one jazz album by the age of 18
I just turned 50 this year and started for the first time to listen to older jazz (still like my smooth jazz) especially more Bop style jazz.
Dave Brubeck - Time Out is a MUST, MUST have for any jazz lover and you also need to read up on why the album was so different and instrumental in changing jazz attitudes.
daza152 02-14-2010, 01:52 AM I have an original on the original cover without the Take Five on cover. Picked it up for $7 US very good condition. Plays well, great album :yes:
Daza.
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