60's Electric

[dderat]

Thatch gave me this guitar -- in pieces; completely disassembled, did I say "completely", even down to the logo on the peg head.

Now, some time later it is pretty much back together. I am waiting on a bridge piece - essentially a set-screw rod collar -metric, that I know I could have bought new for a dollar if I'd been able to find one, but which I am having machined. It should be out of gold for what I am being charged, but that is another show, as Oprah would say.

Thatch gave me two instruments; the other needs major structural work. I believe it to be a 335 clone.

Since I am not at home, I don't know which is which, but one is a "PRESTIGE" and the other is a "MARQUIS".

Here are a couple of pix. Any information will be appreciated.

Oops. File size too large. I will see if I can shrink it. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in seeing them send me an email address.

Derat'

[dderat]

Here are two pics, one showing off an Altec 511B/802-D on top of a 7.25 cu ft box with an ALtec 416 in it. I can take other pix if anyone interested.

[Rockmonton]

basically those are your two stencil line japanese guitars, i have fun hotrodding the crap outta them, its fun!

[dderat]

"Stencil line" ??

New term to me. Can you help me out with it?

Hotrodding...am I to assume their value lies in what you can make of them and not what they are? I was going to lengths to keep them original, tho I must admit that keeping the old, worn, crappy gears was going to be a challenge.

[Rockmonton]

basically the same sorta japanese companies, all making similar guitars but having your department store be able to contract them and get whatever name you want put on them, these are nice old bodies, the necks are usually crap along with the electronics, i love hotrodding these though as i said earlier, they can make some of the craziest things you've ever seen

[dderat]

I should have been thinking better. I used to work for a depratment store that sold Crucianelli (the maker) guitars. Same as VOX. Pretty decent stuff, and cheap..

The neck on the one in the pic actually is pretty good, now that I straightened it with the truss rod that actually worked. \

I found a site 60Guitars, or something like that. Boy do they show a lot of them.

[Sansui Louie]

I love kooky old 60's guitars.

Here's a couple GREAT sites for finding originals, repros and hotrods:

www.myrareguitars.com
www.fatdawg.com

[dderat]

Wow! So many guitars, so little time.

[pjweeks]

Now that's alot of switches!

Sometimes I go to fatdawg just for entertainment and ideas...

[Rockmonton]

i LOVE westone thunders, you find any II basses, i NEED another one or two!

[Thatch_Ear]

Those guitars had been in pieces in a friends warehouse for years. I think he was on the verge of tossing them so I snagged them and mailed them to my buddy Derat and he has done a great job getting them back together. I really thought he was just going to put them together enough to use them as wall decorations but I bet they end up being better than new before he stops.

[dderat]

Saying "those guitars had been in pieces" doesn't even come close to describing how they were. They were completely disassembled; not one screw remaining to be removed, not even those holding the logo in place, or the tuners. What I can't understand is why one would do it, unless planning to refinish, something I don't see as being necessary in the least. The Mosrite clone is done.

The fun part on the 335 clone was getting the four potentiometers- still interconnected- back into the body through the f-holes, and getting the shafts into holes with not even a millimeter of wiggle room, something I was certain I would give up on as a result of going mad. The wires to the pickups were cut, and I suspect I am going to have trouble figuring which goes where. I may just end up rewiring from scratch. But once I get the major separation on the body glued (it looks like the guitar could have been leaning against something and then fallen into), it will be all downhill.

But it has been fun..........and therapeutic.

Thatch, you're a good friend.

Derat'

[Rockmonton]

heh, with those hollowbodies, dont know if you know, but tie strings to them going through the holes, makes life soo much easier

[dderat]

That was part of the method, but when pulling on the string, the shaft wouldn't pull straight into and through the hole. I think I ended up crimping - maybe even soldering- a piece of copper wire between the slots in the shaft so the pull was centered. That enabled me to pull it straight through.

The next one will be easier :yes: