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VinylHanger
07-11-2005, 09:54 AM
After years of paying and refinancing my work truck, '91 Chevy 3/4 ton 4X4, I finally bit the bullet and payed it off. The day I payed it off, of course it had to develop a tick. Oh, well I figured a stuck lifter. The engine only had 90,000 mostly highway miles on it, with fairly regular oil changes. Run a synthetic oil change through it in the as I realize now pointless hope that it would loosen the lifter. No go.
Gearhead buddies come over, we figure it is a bad cam since both rockers on one port are loose. Looking back, this was a mistake.
So, I go and order a nice mild performance cam, lifters, and roller chain which comes a day after I had kept the weekend open to fix it, it was overnighted, which makes sense it took 4 days to get to me. Did I say this was my work truck, and it is the busy season. Anyway, it finally got here. And work commenced.
Out comes old cam in goes new cam. Lots of cussing GM engineers as to why you need to drop the pan to take off the timing cover, but then the pan won't drop because the tranny pan is in the way as well. Which was ok, since once I broke the front of the oil pan gasket, I could get it right in :thumbsdn: Oil pan gasket is now temporarily fixed, I hope. Since to get it out, the front axle of the truck needs to come off, which is no fun doing on a gravel drive in the front yard. anyway, I get it together. Go to start it. Backfire, no running... No compression, nothing crap, I gotta be 180 off, with missadjusted valves. Open the whole freakin' thing back up, this is 3 days later by the way. Yep, 180 off. Luckily friend volunteered to get underneath and deal with the pan, which I wasn't in the mood for.
Another day gone but it is all back together. Loosen valves, get ready to start it, with a bigassed grin, 'cause I know it is right this time. Start it...... fire shoots out the throttlebody and sits there like a tiny sterno stove..... I do debate just letting it go up in smoke, but it is too close to the house. So I figure the valves are way too loose, so I commence toadjust them. Pop, what the Fk. One of the studs comes off right in my hand. Then I start looking at the other ones. Most of them are showing at least 2 more threads than they should. And it is a taller cam than original, I would expect them to be the same or slightly less thread. I have at least 4 that are pulling out, which would explain the ticking.
So now we are out the 5 days I spent working on it which this time ofyear tends to be a bunch. Then the 300 bucks for assorted parts, Cam, etc. Plus 15 for a 1 1/16 inch socket that I most likely will never need again, 35 bucks for a new heater hose, 8 for a new upper heater hose fitting that is the reason for the socket. And the best part, I am going to be out an additonal 2 days and a hundred more bucks to pull both heads and take them to a machine shop to have all the rocker studs tapped and replaced with screw in studs, because this whole freaking thing started because the company I got the Reman'd engine from decided that since the heads were over machined, they needed to pin the studs instead of putting in threaded ones in the first place.
Thank-you for letting me get this off my chest, I feel soooo much better. So you ain't the only one with car troubles Thor. And believe me, I would be enjoying this if it I was putting this much effort into getting the Buick running, it's always nice to learn new things, but it's the only truck I have, and it has to be running. Ever try to run a construction company out of a Jeep Cherokee. It don't work :no:

If you made it through this whole post, I hereby post the this is a rant disclaimer, and yes I do feel much better. :D

Vintage TX
07-11-2005, 10:25 AM
That really sucks.. :(

bolly
07-11-2005, 10:41 AM
I hope the machine-shop's not backlogged vinylhanger! :worried:

SPL db
07-11-2005, 10:51 AM
So it sounds like the original problem was the rocker studs then? :rolleyes:

Ya got to hate it when a company cuts corners! :thumbsdn:

If the engine doesn't burn oil, you should be in pretty good shape
once it's all back together! :yes:

Jstas
07-11-2005, 12:26 PM
You know what you shoulda done now, right?

GET NEW HEADS!!!! WOOHOO!!!!

Nah, I know how it is, been there done that. Had my fun. Glad you are getting it back together.

EchoWars
07-11-2005, 02:12 PM
Gimme heads or gimme death...

luvvinvinyl
07-11-2005, 05:47 PM
Should that 's' be in there?

grumpy
07-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Should that 's' be in there?

Multiple heads are a dream of mine.. More places to set my beer down :)

Reel 2 Reel
07-11-2005, 07:34 PM
That'll learn ya for gettin a 'GM' product!!! LOL!

An I live in a GM town!!!!...go figure!!!!

THOR
07-11-2005, 08:30 PM
Wow that sounds like a lot of unfun work! I woulda just driven it tick and all ;)

VinylHanger
07-11-2005, 11:38 PM
Yep, it is unfun work. but if I had driven it with the tick, though only after opening it up I know this. It most likely would have blown out the stud and then backfired at 65 mph, then I would have really had problems. Hope to have it in the shop this week and running by Sat.

Jstas
07-12-2005, 09:35 AM
Wow that sounds like a lot of unfun work! I woulda just driven it tick and all ;)

Nah, that would be bad. Driving around with that kind of problem would just lead to something nasty like dropping a valve or bending a pushrod and it just gets ugly from there.

VinylHanger
08-15-2005, 01:38 AM
Well, I thought I'd rehash this thread and give an update. The lucky thing is I'm remodeling the house right next to mine, so I haven't needed the truck too often. So I was able to borrow one when needed.
So I figure a couple friends of mine could use some cash, so I offer to let them do the tear down. They got it apart, but it took about about 3 weeks for them to get to it, and then when I went to put it together, I had to make many trips to Napa for bolts, nuts, studs....... things were just gone. Besides all being basically thrown in one of 2 buckets, so i spent 2 days playing, which bolt goes in which hole....... and not the fun kind with the old lady game. :no:

But 400 bucks later, it is finally running, sort of. Just need to time it a bit, and open the plugs, recheck wires, that sort of thing. I am thankful I have done a ton of work on this truck and know it pretty well. Did you know that .35 on the plugs doesn't work at all. We have always had to gap it around .45-.60 to get any power out of it, and to get it to run smooth. So there it is in a nutshell. I have decided to take it to a muffler shop, and if the pan gasket decides to leak, there ain't much chance I'll be changing it myself. I've had enough mechanical fun for this summer. Well, except for the Jeep needing a water pump. That's easy stuff though.
However, Now that I finally own it, I will keep on running this old truck til the cows come home before I straddle myuself with a 500-700 dollar payment like most of the other contractors I know. I really don't want to work that hard for a truck. I'd take a picture, but I don't think it has a good side anymore. Though the paint is still great. :)

CUlater
08-15-2005, 08:30 AM
Your original post reminded me of my 87 Shelby Lancer - they very day I paid it off, on the way home off came the timing belt. No serious damage done, but still, odd timing (no pun intended)...

THOR
08-16-2005, 06:39 PM
That did not sound like fun at all VH :( Glad it finally worked out ;)