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CarlV
07-20-2005, 10:26 AM
I was wrong and they are going to tour. Anybody else hear anything about this? Official announcement Saturday allegedly.
http://platinumentertainment.us/creamtickets.html

Carl

Celt
07-20-2005, 11:34 AM
Wonder if they'll be sitting in "Wheelchairs Of Fire"? :lmao:

Balthazarr
07-20-2005, 01:26 PM
Good golly, $450 per seat at MSG minimum. :eek:

mg196
07-20-2005, 01:42 PM
Holy crap - I wonder what kinf of tour it will be with prices that high. It isnt like they could head to Pittsburgh and fill the stadium!

piece-it pete
07-20-2005, 02:07 PM
That's a scalper site right?

Living up to their name! I would pay A LOT to see Cream, though, if'n I had it.

Pete

CarlV
07-20-2005, 02:12 PM
With a name like platinum entertainment and they are pre-selling tickets I'm pretty sure there is a convenience fee ;) included. I did post that link just to show some validity to the rumor I heard.

Carl

piece-it pete
07-20-2005, 03:10 PM
"convenience fee" - lol!

It's a shame they don't do a full blown tour (even 8-12 dates), realistically I can't go to NYC to see them.

Pete

CarlV
07-20-2005, 03:16 PM
I was wrong and they are going to tour. Anybody else hear anything about this? Official announcement Saturday allegedly.
http://platinumentertainment.us/creamtickets.html

Carl
It's a shame they don't do a full blown tour (even 8-12 dates), realistically I can't go to NYC to see them.

Pete


From what I understood in the rumor it will be a "full blown" tour. It should/will
be officially announced Saturday.

Carl

piece-it pete
07-20-2005, 03:39 PM
:banana:

Thanks!

Pete

Drybasement
07-20-2005, 03:54 PM
You see, that's what pisses me off.

Why are these ticketing agencies allowed to cherry pick the best seats and then sell them for huge amounts of money?

The average person could never get a front row seat to an event like this. They're already taken by ticket agencies and radio stations and promoters and........

end of :rant:

clint e.
07-20-2005, 04:02 PM
You'll see what kind of people goes to that Cream reunion. :naughty:

clint.

fropiler
07-20-2005, 04:06 PM
You see, that's what pisses me off.

Why are these ticketing agencies allowed to cherry pick the best seats and then sell them for huge amounts of money?

The average person could never get a front row seat to an event like this. They're already taken by ticket agencies and radio stations and promoters and........

end of :rant:

I don't know how they "aquire" these tickets, but on ticketmaster, there is a random word generator that you have to enter in a box or you can't proceed. This is supposed to keep bots out.

I will say that I don't enjoy being that close to the stage anyway (For a number of reasons). I'd rather be right next to the sound board :yes:

piece-it pete
07-20-2005, 04:14 PM
Here in Cleveland I heard tell that at least one year there was an agreement with the promoters - they got the entire best block of floor seats as payment.

And like Lennon said - "rattle your jewlery" lol.

Pete

mg196
10-25-2005, 07:19 AM
Review of last night's show on NYTimes.com:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/25/nyregion/25cream_span.jpg

Cream Returns, Mellowed

By BEN RATLIFF

When venerable rock bands mobilize their management, their lawyers, their crews and matériel, and go back on the road, there's usually some degree of padding in their shows. A horn section, backup singers, an extra guitarist or keyboardist in the shadows all buttress the sound, firming it up.

The major attraction of Cream's limited reunion is that it's only the three of them, as forceful or sludgy or spindly as they may be. You must factor in their age, the encroachment of mellower temperaments. But still, the band was recognizable last night at Madison Square Garden in its heavy greasiness, its stomp, its throaty singing and some of its blare.

Cream existed only briefly in the late 60's and so is fixed in history a certain way, as purveyors of intense, long-form playing. Last night's efficient, more formalized set didn't conform to the historical record, but if you've been watching closely, you already know that. The band put on a series of shows in London in May, and the concert at the Garden generally adhered to those shows' set lists - and to the exact track order on the live album and DVD from those shows, "Royal Albert Hall" (Reprise), released three weeks ago.

Like the London shows, the concert heavily reinforced the notion of Cream as an overdriven blues band, with the band's versions of Skip James, Willie Dixon and Robert Johnson mixed in with its better-known originals, from "White Room" to "Sunshine of Your Love." ("Tales of Brave Ulysses" was the only surprise, a deviation from the new live album. "Never before done onstage," Eric Clapton declared when it was finished.)

But blues is Mr. Clapton's bread and butter, and he played it well, superbly at times; if there were few frenetic outbursts, he still played riffs beautifully, like the one in "Born Under a Bad Sign." Except when Mr. Clapton overpowered the sound with high-note soloing, Cream is a band with a low center of gravity, reinforced by Jack Bruce's bass playing and Ginger Baker's drumming. Holding his sticks at the bottom to wield maximum thump, Mr. Baker displayed a version of rock drumming that was at least half tom-toms.

Cream was at its best when cruising in mid-tempo or slower. In "Sweet Wine" there was a feeling of settling in, and the band did what great groups do: subtly adjust the dynamics around what you're supposed to hear, which in this case was one of Mr. Clapton's better solos. In "Stormy Monday," the audience adjusted its own dynamics: when Mr. Clapton sped up his licks, organizing them into hectic focus, there was a rising, calibrated roar.

As a bonus in a clockwork show, there were even a few longueurs, like Mr. Bruce's extended harmonica solo in Muddy Waters's "Rollin' and Tumblin'," and "We're Going Wrong," full of slow, sticky dread.

You couldn't afford a ticket? It's really all right. Watch the DVD.

Strangeband
10-27-2005, 09:01 PM
Rock n' Roll has become a corporate commoditiy, it seems. I only know one person going to the Cream reunion, and he is a music writer. Still, I don't begrude Jack Bruce or Ginger Baker getting a boat load of money to carry them forward. Though I've disliked most of Clapton's music of late, I respect his decision to participate with the reunion.

I wonder if Ginger will eventually give in to the temptation to pelt Jack up side the head with a drum stick like he used to in the old days. Those two didn't get along.

mg196
10-28-2005, 12:04 AM
I wonder if Ginger will eventually give in to the temptation to pelt Jack up side the head with a drum stick like he used to in the old days. Those two didn't get along.

I think it is rare when two music geniuses in the same band can get along, let alone three. I think in the pantheon of Rock musicians, Jack and Ginger are easily within the All Time Top 5 in their respective fields.

schoolboy
11-17-2005, 06:46 AM
A friend of mine went to one of the MSG shows and enjoyed it tremendously.

I've listened to recordings of the MSG and RAH shows and although the RAH shows are sonically fantastic, everything seems a little slow. The playing is tighter than you would expect (if you listened to old live Cream shows they could be very loose). The singing was surprisingly good for some older guys.

I was quite envious of my friend. Great band.

doucanoe
11-17-2005, 09:54 AM
I would'nt see the Cream reunion show for that kind of money but I would love to see them live. Clapton would be great but to see Jack and Ginger working it again would be fun.

I get a kick out of these old rockers out there drawing in huge numbers for their concerts. Some are a joke but these guys would be worth the effort if you have the cash. The draw that they get is a direct reflection on the state of R&R today. Much hype and marketing, but not a lot of talent or originality.

The last live show I saw was Steely Dan and I remember thinking to my self that if everyone would just sit down, we could all enjoy the show better. I guess Im getting too old (45) to appreciate live shows and the energy that they create. :D

RC

mg196
11-17-2005, 11:04 AM
Thankfully I was able to see Clapton twice in the 80's (his tour in '89) just before he slid into Adult-Contemporary sludge.

Balthazarr
11-17-2005, 06:34 PM
A tour...wow.
Guess I'll wait for the DVD. Would love to see them, but I'm sure the price would be outrageous.
Concert for the well-heeled instead of die-hard fans.

Andyman
11-20-2005, 12:36 AM
Well here in Detroit our local PBS TV station will be broadcasting the performances 11/30/2005 @9:00PM. It's part of the "Great performances" series. check your local listings.
It's a 2 hour special from the Royal Albert Hall shows. An added bonus is that they'll be broadcasting an hour special on the Concert for Bangladesh right after it.
Looks like I'll be rolling some more tape.

CarlV
11-20-2005, 01:46 AM
Cool, thanks for the heads up Andy.

Carl

Andyman
11-29-2005, 06:24 PM
Just a friendly reminder for all the olde hippie phart types

nitrous
11-29-2005, 09:08 PM
Spoke with a good friend who attended the Cream show at MSG (were there 2 shows?) He said it was one of best concerts he ever witnessed. Cream were tight. Clapton played great (but was "laid back" compared to Bruce & Baker.)
And that they appeared to "run out of gas" about 3/4 into the show. Old farts? :fart:

carpinus7
11-30-2005, 11:38 PM
What a concert ! Their music was good 35 years ago and is better today . Life has added more to their music in the way that Bruce turns a phrase or Clapton decides what chords/notes to string together, and Baker in the intensity and volume of his drums. To bring all of their life experiences into their music can only improve it and make it that much more enriching.

There is nothing to prove at this point but only to do something you really enjoy( and if you can make a buck at the same time, why not.)and they appeared to be enjoying it.

Yes they are older but does rock and other forms of music have an age limit(we use to think so.)? You have to remember that when they began to play they helped to define the genre even further and today they have again defined and pushed limits of how we perceive rock icons. Good music is good music where ever it comes from.

markthefixer
11-30-2005, 11:49 PM
Yep, Saw it on PBS, was the first music in a LONNNG time that I was tapping my feet along to the beat.

piece-it pete
12-01-2005, 08:53 AM
I am a witness. Old guys can rock.

They were great. Long live cream!

Pete

Andyman
12-01-2005, 03:41 PM
Well, 90% of it was what I expected, but "Rollin and Tumblin" and this little jam at the end of "Sunshine of your Love" were very pleasant surprises.
That jam is the Cream I remember; it's the best 3 minutes in the show!! 2 hours of THAT kind of energy would have been killer!! :yes:

nitrous
12-01-2005, 08:57 PM
That jam is the Cream I remember; it's the best 3 minutes in the show!! 2 hours of THAT kind of energy would have been killer!!:yes:

According to Clapton, that's the #1 reason he broke up Cream in the 1st place- too many unending jams that they didn't know how to end. He said that he felt "lost" in the music. Ya gotta admit that his current concise playing & Cream's "mini jams" certainly come off great. A throughly enjoyable RAH show!
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

CarlV
12-02-2005, 01:18 AM
Well, 90% of it was what I expected, but "Rollin and Tumblin" and this little jam at the end of "Sunshine of your Love" were very pleasant surprises.
That jam is the Cream I remember; it's the best 3 minutes in the show!! 2 hours of THAT kind of energy would have been killer!! :yes:
I just got done watching it and you are dead on.
So I made myself a tape of it and will watch it again sometime. I think the
stealth bootleg I have is aptly named even moreso now, The Three Old Farties. ;)

Carl

packratt
12-02-2005, 06:39 PM
Both that show and the Crossroads Guitar Festival are availible on DVD from Blockbuster. I taped them just in case then checked on DVD availibility.