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ninetynine 08-10-2005, 08:45 PM any fans of the doors? Recently I've been in a doors phase, bought the first album, strange days, waiting for the sun and la woman. Rented the collections dvd which is incredible as well. I can't think of anyone like Jim Morrisson , he was so a head of his time! Did anyone here actually get a chance to see them live?? Also, what about the live in europe (1968) dvd that is out, is that worth checking out? I watched live at hollywood bowl and I was a bit let down I was expecting Jim to dance around and go wild!
Charivari 08-10-2005, 08:59 PM Yep, I'm a fan of The Doors. In fact, I just, just finished spinning L.A. Woman.
- JP
Andyman 08-10-2005, 09:03 PM First rock concert I ever saw was the Doors. I think it was 1968 and "Waiting for the Sun" had just come out.
Damn, THOSE were days.......................
bully 08-10-2005, 09:06 PM They made some nice music in the time they had together. I wasn't a fan, but they were easy to rock out with. I liked them well enough. Too bad their albums tunes were edited because they had to edit for airplay, and that called for about 3 minutes.
In fact, I can remeber my first listen to their first album, and was kinda put out that the songs didn't exactly match what was playing on the FM.
For example Light my fire was about 3 minutes edited for the radio play and 6 minutes or so on the album.
macaltec 08-10-2005, 09:18 PM I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan but I do like them pretty well. I missed them in concert. Jim never made it back to the states for the closest tour for me to see. That and I was less than 6 months old when he died.
mac
Andyman 08-10-2005, 09:28 PM Back in Milwaukee in the late '60s we actually had a couple of sources of "underground" music, including WZMF-FM and WTOS-FM, so we got to hear quite a bit "good" stuff straight from the LPs. Doors, Cream, Airplane, Dead, Hendrix, etc.
I even remember my brother buying a Lloyd's AM/FM radio so we could listen; all my folks had was an AM, and most car radios were AM only too, unless you sprang for those cheesy FM adaptors that you could stick into your 8 track deck.
Boy, kids these days don't realize how good they got it!! :yes:
WildWest 08-10-2005, 10:18 PM I've been looking for the Soft Parade on new vinyl for a while now. I know you can find it used on E Pay but I don't do business anymore there.
"Back in Milwaukee in the late '60s we actually had a couple of sources of "underground" music, including WZMF-FM and WTOS-FM, so we got to hear quite a bit "good" stuff straight from the LPs. Doors, Cream, Airplane, Dead, Hendrix, etc. I even remember my brother buying a Lloyd's AM/FM radio so we could listen; all my folks had was an AM, and most car radios were AM only too, unless you sprang for those cheesy FM adaptors that you could stick into your 8 track deck.'
Wow...that made me think about days gone. When the first FM rock station popped up around here it was full of the "good stuff" and in stereo no less. OMG that was soooooo awesome at the time. We had to really work at it to hear it though cause as you said, cars only had AM radios at the time. My dads receiver could get it but he didn't want us playing "that crap" on his equipment. He used to say, "I have to fumigate my stereo now". everytime we would sneak in and tune to our FM station. LOL
OvenMaster 08-10-2005, 10:23 PM Fan here since 10 years old/grade school (late 60's). The two lp's I spin most often are L.A. Woman and the Quad The Best of the Doors. "Love Her Madly", while their arguably biggest hit, is still my all-time favorite tune; whenever it comes on the radio, I will literally stop whatever it is I'm doing to hear it all the way through. I also remember precisely where I was when I heard on the radio that he'd just died. Profoundly sad. The Doors were IMHO a rung up the ladder from most of the late 60's rock groups.
Tom
tentoze 08-10-2005, 10:41 PM Had good seats to see them in what would have been the show after Morrison dashed his doodle in Miami. Show cancelled- I remember being pissed off more at Morrison for being a moron than at "The Man' for cancelling the show. In what remained of his unfortunately short life, he continued to live up to that assessment. I don't think Doors' music has aged all that gracefully, either, but I'm not a huge fan of much fossil rock these days.
Oven Master pretty much summed it up for me. I have a few of the original Elektra NYC pressings and all the studio albums on Pioneer-Japan vinyl, as well as the remastered Elektra CD boxed set. Their 45's were special little gems to me. Yes, they were edits, but often they were very different in mix and many had b-sides that you just couldn't find anywhere else. I also got to see them on Ed Sullivan when Morrison sang "can't get much HIGHER" after being told NOT to by the network brass. :naughty:
ninetynine 08-10-2005, 10:50 PM Back in Milwaukee in the late '60s we actually had a couple of sources of "underground" music, including WZMF-FM and WTOS-FM, so we got to hear quite a bit "good" stuff straight from the LPs. Doors, Cream, Airplane, Dead, Hendrix, etc.
so the doors was actually considered an "underground" band? I never really understood if there were actually "underground" bands back in the late 60s and early 70s cause bands like doors, zeppelin etc are very well known now. So you are saying they were actually considered underground?
OvenMaster 08-10-2005, 10:55 PM I myself was under the impression that "underground" defined anything that wasn't top 40 fare, and mainly played on "progressive" FM rock stations of the time. I may be wrong. :stupid:
Tom
Lefty 08-10-2005, 11:05 PM I saw them live in Hawaii in 1969/70 while I was serving there in the Air Fource. At the time I loved the Doors music, it was great to drink or smoke with :banana:
HOWEVER live it was one of the worst live performances that I have ever attended, no energy, no connection with the crowd. Honest I was so board that I couldn't wait for it to end. Only thing that keep me in my seat was the occational joint that would be passed down the row :thmbsp:
Lefty
clint e. 08-11-2005, 09:32 AM I'm a big fan of The Doors and Jim Morrison's Poetry. :yes:
clint.
I myself was under the impression that "underground" defined anything that wasn't top 40 fare, and mainly played on "progressive" FM rock stations of the time. I may be wrong. :stupid:
Tom
The Doors, like Jefferson Airplane were one of those groups that straddled the AM-FM fence. Back then AM was Top 40's domain and what few FM rock stations there was, were "underground" type formats, playing AOR (album oriented rock). In other words, JA and The Doors were successful with their singles and at the same time, progressive enough, experimental enough, to warrant play on the cool rock FM stations. Radio was a lot different back then. AM had manic DJ's and the playlist was strictly from Billboard's Hot 100. FM's DJ's were much more laid back and the playlist could include Top 40 singles (if deemed cool) and they played cuts from whatever albums were in vogue at the time. For instance, CCR's "Born On The Bayou" would get FM play, but not "Proud Mary"...the latter being a runaway 45 hit single on AM.
OvenMaster 08-11-2005, 10:14 AM Drat. I'd totally forgotten the term AOR, CELT. You're right, of course. Sometimes I think the Alzheimers' is kicking in early.
Tom
Drat. I'd totally forgotten the term AOR, CELT. You're right, of course. Sometimes I think the Alzheimers' is kicking in early.
Tom
Don't feel bad Tom. I went to the store yesterday specifically for a few items and by the time I got there (2 blocks away) I had forgotten what I went there for! :worried:
TommyC 08-11-2005, 10:47 AM HOWEVER live it was one of the worst live performances that I have ever attended, no energy, no connection with the crowd. Honest I was so board that I couldn't wait for it to end.
Lefty
This was pretty much my experience seeing them live. I Loved their music, but live, they were dead boring!
shrinkboy 08-11-2005, 11:46 AM i was crazy nuts for the Doors, and like andyman, they were my first big rock show the summer of 68 at memorial auditorium here in big d. opening was a band called 'the moving sidewalk' who left the stage after their set in a very 'heavy' way: they set up the guitars to play feedback into the marshall stacks leaning against the cabs while thick dry ice smoke covered the stage... we 17 y/olds were all gobsmacked at the 'heaviness' of the gesture....moving sidewalk became, are you ready for this? yes, someone out there guessed it: ZZ Top.
anyway, His Black LeatherTrouserness was spellbinding and awesome. i am sure i changed that night. rock concerts were real rites of initiation for us in those days. are they still? i don't know....saw 'em again at State Fair Music Hall, December 1970, 6th row center, Morrison drunk out of his mind and drinking schlitz tallboys one after another and wearing a pretty obvious paunch. he was crazy out of his mind that night, but my gosh, an unforgettable performance of doomed, who gives a shit? i don't care anymore, i'm gonna burn in hell so WTF? let's give 'em what we got, over the f'ing RAWK music. shattering. do people believe in rock like that nowadays, or do they just pretend to?
i wanted to be a 'poet' like morrison, i wanted wear black leather trousers like morrison, i wanted to ....ah, you get the idea. do i listen to the doors nowadays? not much, but coming out of the blue, a lot still sounds great: break on through, crystal ship, midnight ride....yeah.
Andyman 08-11-2005, 02:11 PM Here's an interesting spin on "underground" radio. I found this interview with Bob Reitman, who was THE counterculture DJ back in Milwaukee in the late 60s early 70s. Now he's on a boring morning drivetime slot with the usual happy chatter, so take that into consideration.......
"Listeners to eclectic and alternative radio in the late 1960s, rock radio in the 1970s and contemporary radio since 1980 know Bob Reitman as one of Milwaukee's most visible, popular and long-standing broadcasting personalities.
OMC: I assume working at WUWM didn't pay the bills. How did radio become a career?
BR: I moved to a new station, WZMF, about 1968, '69, somewhere in there. It was my first full-time radio job. The station was pretty much free-form radio, and we broadcast out of this house in Menomonee Falls -- it was way, way out there at the time. We only had 3,000 watts of power, and we were hard to get in. People used to stack up their stereos, put up rabbit ears ... one of our best ads featured a guy with all this equipment trying to pick us up, and the slogan said, "WZMF ... We're Hard To Get, But It's Worth It" or something like that. The station was privately owned, and we could pretty much play what we wanted, within reason. I'd try to use the music that was coming out to weave a theme. We had all these great cuts from Jefferson Airplane, Bob Dylan, Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Quicksilver Messenger Service and on and on. We weren't "personalities" on the air that much; we barely talked. WZMF was purely about the music. Between full- and part-time, I was there for about six years.
"OMC: How would you say radio is now versus 30 years ago?
BR: I'd say now radio is more democratic. There are more stations, targeted at more people, and the station's programming is based on input from many people through research and more sophisticated methods. Back then, it was almost like a ... well, like a benevolent dictatorship, because I played what I wanted to play. It was fun for me, but a lot more erratic for listeners and we always ran the risk of alienating everybody. Here's another analogy: radio now is more like a fast-food restaurant, serving up what we know people want more often; before it was more of a specialty gourmet restaurant where it was more esoteric and although there were more unique flavors, it was more hit-or-miss."
I think he's right and I think I prefer the speciality gourmet restaurant
e2e4c7c5 08-12-2005, 07:42 AM The album-oriented FM station that began in 1968 in Cleveland was WMMS. It was the standard in Cleveland until the mid-80s when they started playing Madonna & MJ!! :puke: :puke:
And in Dallas/Ft Worth the best station IMO was KZEW!! I got hooked on the station when I was stationed at Ft. Hood and would drive to DFW on the week-ends. Q102 was pretty damn good too!!
Oh Yeah, The Doors are awesome!! :thmbsp:
Around here it was KISR-FM in Little Rock and WMS-FM 100 in Memphis. Both turned to absolute dreck in the 70's. In Memphis, WEGR Rock-103 picked up the groove for a little while, but was eventually bought out by Clear-asil Channel Commie-cations...and that was pretty much that. I have three radios in the house and all stay tuned to my local NPR station.
clint e. 08-13-2005, 10:04 AM What you think about the "remaining" Doors touring live with Ian Astbury (ex-The Cult)?
clint.
OvenMaster 08-13-2005, 10:06 AM Blasphemy.
Tom
Blasphemy.
Tom
agreed. :no:
Andyman 08-13-2005, 10:31 AM All about the Benjamins.
What a surprise,eh??
clint e. 08-15-2005, 12:48 PM I found this picture but i'm not sure if his Morrisson or not?! :scratch2:
clint.
shrinkboy 08-15-2005, 02:04 PM yeah,that's him-- mug shot taken on a drunk and disorderly charge when he was in college
Won a EBAY for 5 DOORs listed below... Will have to wait and see what condition they are when I get 'em... If LUCK is with me they will be at least VG+ (I hope!!!!)
THE DOORS LOT OF LP RECORD ALBUMS......
"THE DOORS" (EKS-74007)......
"13" (EKS-74079)......
"THE BEST OF THE DOORS" (6E-5035)......
"ABSOLUTELY LIVE" (2 LP's - GATEFOLD - EKS-9002)......
"WAITING FOR THE SUN" (GATEFOLD - EKS-74024)......
EVERYTHING IS IN NICE CONDITION......
mhardy6647 08-15-2005, 04:29 PM Andy... you must be older than you look!
(and that IS meant as a compliment!)
clint e. 08-16-2005, 08:29 AM i am sure i changed that night. rock concerts were real rites of initiation for us in those days. are they still? i don't know....saw 'em again at State Fair Music Hall, December 1970, 6th row center, Morrison drunk out of his mind and drinking schlitz tallboys one after another and wearing a pretty obvious paunch. he was crazy out of his mind that night, but my gosh, an unforgettable performance of doomed, who gives a shit? i don't care anymore, i'm gonna burn in hell so WTF? let's give 'em what we got, over the f'ing RAWK music. shattering. do people believe in rock like that nowadays, or do they just pretend to?
i wanted to be a 'poet' like morrison, i wanted wear black leather trousers like morrison, i wanted to ....ah, you get the idea. do i listen to the doors nowadays? not much, but coming out of the blue, a lot still sounds great: break on through, crystal ship, midnight ride....yeah.
The way you describe it make me think " i would like to be there ". :thmbsp: :thmbsp:
clint.
TrexT 08-16-2005, 09:33 AM yeah,that's him-- mug shot taken on a drunk and disorderly charge when he was in college
Going to Florida State University, who the hell wasen't drunk and disorderly!?!?! :yes:
bob adams 08-18-2005, 08:28 PM My favorite band back in the late 60s. I was going to see the Doors in Jax, FL sometime in the summer (I believe) of 1969. I was stoked. BUT the week before the Jax concert Jim Morrison exposed himself onstage in Miami and the state of Florida had a warrant for his arrest. He fled to L.A. and never gave a concert in Florida again as I recall.
Yeah I missed the Beatles concert in the Gator Bowl too!
bob adams 08-18-2005, 08:32 PM Also "Strange Days" was the second release of the Doors. I think the first album was "The Doors" and had "Light My Fire" on it!
tentoze 08-18-2005, 08:33 PM My favorite band back in the late 60s. I was going to see the Doors in Jax, FL sometime in the summer (I believe) of 1969. I was stoked. BUT the week before the Jax concert Jim Morrison exposed himself onstage in Miami and the state of Florida had a warrant for his arrest. He fled to L.A. and never gave a concert in Florida again as I recall.
Yeah I missed the Beatles concert in the Gator Bowl too!
See post #9 of this thread- at least we both missed the same show.
bob adams 08-18-2005, 08:43 PM tentose,
I read yours right after I posted mine. Where did you go to school in Jax and when did you graduate? Did you ever get to see the free Allman Bros concerts out at the Jax Beach Coliseum or over in park (which I can't remember the name of)?
tentoze 08-18-2005, 08:48 PM tentose,
I read yours right after I posted mine. Where did you go to school in Jax and when did you graduate? Did you ever get to see the free Allman Bros concerts out at the Jax Beach Coliseum or over in park (which I can't remember the name of)?
I replied in the Vassar Clements thread about school biz. And, most definitely, before the Allmans were the Allmans, I used to catch The Second Coming for free all over town.
bob adams 08-18-2005, 08:54 PM Saw your other post. Rebault 69 huh? Didn't Lee used to beat you guys in football all the time when we weren't getting our tails kicked by N.B.Forrest High? Wow it is indeed a small world. Now tell me you surfed at the end of Oleander St. in Neptune Beach and I'll be stunned. :yes:
tentoze 08-18-2005, 08:57 PM Saw your other post. Rebault 69 huh? Didn't Lee used to beat you guys in football all the time when we weren't getting our tails kicked by N.B.Forrest High? Wow it is indeed a small world. Now tell me you surfed at the end of Oleander St. in Neptune Beach and I'll be stunned. :yes:
No doubt- we were always shit on the field, but won the mass brawls under the bleachers....and my surfing days were always at the North Jetties where all rowdy N'Siders went.
bob adams 08-18-2005, 09:05 PM Amazing. All us pothead surfers went down A1A to Crossroads to drink 99 cent sixpacks of Bohemian beer. Then down to the Vilano Beach jetties for northeasters. That ferry ride cost way too much (50 cents). Hell you could buy two gallons of gas for the old 68 Beetle for that much money!!!!
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