sorry redbook, SACD, DVD-A but...

[WildWest]

The future of digital will be more like

BLU RAY

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/new_media/1829241.stm


So as many invest in that new digital player of the month with it's limited selection of titles, I'll just stay with my vinyl "dun right" until they can show me two simple things:

A. A better sound
B. A standard for longevity leading to title selections

aaaaannnnnndddddd that's my story an I'm stickin to it!

:wave:

[VinylHanger]

Geez, I don't even have a DVD player yet and it is already on it's way to being obsolete. I think this is one of the reasons it is hard to get people to adopt one technology over the other. As soon as you start getting into it, it moves on for another expensive peice of gear. VHS has been around for like 20+ years and it still is going strong. What other format can I cheaply record Dr. Phil on to watch when I get home. So I am with ya, I will just keep spinning my vinyl and when they put The Fabulous Harmonicats on a digital format, then I may move into the modern age:D

[Thatch_Ear]

There is a LOT of great music out there that you can only get on CD. Some of it is recorded great and plays back great too. Keep your head in the sand but you are missing out on some great stuff. And you can get an hours worth without having to change it, it is easier to maintain and I can use the same machine for movies. Win, win.

[ProAc_Fan]

I'm in your camp Thatch. Although vinyl is nice try to find what you really want on pristine vinyl. I think anyone who doesn't have a digital source is really missing out. The percieved harshness of CD's can be rectified with a good DAC or even better a tube DAC or amp. Just my .02.

Mike

[WildWest]

Yea without a doubt, the vinyl selections drops off at around the year 1980 or so. And if I look hard at my LP collection only maybe a third of it is real pristine. If one wants anything current the redbook CD is the way to go. Since I have gotten my new Panny RP 82 player I have found it sounding damn good too. Alas though, when I drop the stylus on an LP and have the same track playing on the CD then toggle between source and phono its striking the sound differance. Great DAC or not, sampling rate is sampling rate and it hasn't changed since the day it was invented. My highest level of quality sound reproduction remains the vinyl LP but I wish it wasn't so. It's so much work extracting it...

[grumpy]

I think you guys are counting out Vinyl way to soon. Hell just this weekend alone i got Floyds Echos, Hendrix Wild Blue angel and The animals greatest hits all on Vinyl and all brand new. Just in the past couple of weeks I scored Mudhoney, Tracy Chapman, Kidrock, Buddy Guy, Tool and tons of freaking more NEW sealed vinyl. Most of what I bought was from local stores but If you guys aint finding what you want on Vinyl then i suggest you use this thing called the world wide web. Ya know its pretty easy :p: Sides I have all the drink coasters I need in the house already ! :D

[Rob Babcock]

Well, no format will take off if everyone's afraid to pull the trigger. I'm by no means a rich man, but for me SACD/DVA-A are 1) Awesome sounding, better that CD AND LP, and 2) already here. I think that, like HDTV, anyone that gets to experience HiRes Digital, especially in a well set up surround rig with a good recording (emphasis on "well set up"-that's key to good results), will have a hard time going back.

I can certainly understand getting gun shy, but I don't think BluRay will affect audio standard in the slightest. We really don't need more room for audio, although it will be the Big Thing that breaks the floodgates open for HDTV.

You can get in on SACD & DVD-A pretty cheap, and in all likelihood be able to buy a player for many, many years. Hell, you can still buy 'tables & tape decks today, even Minidisc decks are still available.

But if you don't plan on getting into the new formats, you better be sure you never listen to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" on a good SACD surround rig. You'll have a tough time shaking it off and going about your Flat Earth ways after that!:ntwrthy:

Just my 2 cents worth!:D

[BrianB]

While theoretically superior, blue-light laser poses even less of a threat to standard CD playback than do SACD or DVD-A.

[zakezuke]

Originally posted by BrianB
While theoretically superior, blue-light laser poses even less of a threat to standard CD playback than do SACD or DVD-A.

I'm somewhat excited about ultra violet (aka blue laser)
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1001033.html

I could care less if it becomes an accepted audio / video standard, as in the 21century, it doesn't really matter as it looks like it will be an accepted data standard. In fact, in many ways I hope it doesn't become an offical data standard as of the issues we've had with the DMCA regarding the end user's ability and right to create backups of media. In the old days fair use permited us to back backups of vinyl / CD onto cassette, an accepted portable format. I rather thought the advantage of this digital revolution would be that end users like my self could copy data from one format, let's say CD, to another format, let's say DVD, and enjoy the benifits of not nessicarly having to buy a copy of let's say the Beatle White Album again. But alas, it's a crime to circumvent copy protection, even if your application is an honest one. In my case, to watch DVDs on my linux box, or other networked PC which includes the telivision, I have to rip them.

DVD isn't maxed out quite yet... single sided is like 4.7gig, double layered doubles that, double sided doubles that. I think it maxes out at 15gigs of data or roughly 22 standard audio CDs.

The appealing aspect of "Blue-ray" technology, for me, is just the 36gig per disk size. This would be single sided, not sure if it's single layered, that seems likely that a 100+gig limit to the 5 inch blue-ray disk is possible.