Guitar effects, all in one or separate?

[GibsonLesPaul]

Digitech is my foot pedal (for the time being). Love a thick chorus, slightly distorted. Man I seem to come up with reems of stuff with that. What do you use?

[Urizen]

As little effects as possible, but when needed, a bit of reverb from my M/B Quad (two tanks) or if echo or chorus is needed, a Chandler digital echo, and of course my crybaby. :D

[motaboy]

I'm still on the beggining of my effects trip, but I got a Boss MT2 in to a 535Q Crybaby.. (all behind my amp's overdrive and reverb). I usually keep the Wah on with the toe down, even when I don't use it cuz I adore the tone. It's got a Range knob so you can really get that freq' you want.

I think there's nothing like getting your own effects and slowly building your sound rather then rummage through all those menus all that digital b-s.

[theodoric]

I have a Klon Centaur and a Kendrick Buffalo Pfuz, a Kendrick ABC and ABCDEF box, and two Trainwreck Climax combos (based on the Vibrolux Reverb circuit), and a Kendrick Do-Awl. No digital nuthin' in my rig, and all tube. 10x10" and 2x12" speakers (Jensen, JBL, Kendrick, Weber, Fane) make a mighty racket.

[Urizen]

Boss MT2 in to a 535Q Crybaby..


Shakes the walls, eh?

:thmbsp:

[motaboy]

Yew becher a$$ :D

[Sansui Louie]

RP-200 digitech, fed into a Silvertone 1484 plugged into a closed back 2x12 loaded with Vintage 30's.

I mod all the patches myself...the canned ones are too cheesy.

[WhiskeyRebel]

My main gigging amp is an ART DST eighty / eighty which is an analog amp with a built in multi-fx unit.Like Louie, all my settings are custom because the factory presets are sort of overblown. That covers reverb, delay, chorus, flange and octave. In addition I use a Rocktron HUSH noise suppressor pedal, a Dunlop wah, and a Morely stereo volume pedal. For playing slide i kick in a Peavey compressor for extra sustain.

What follows is likely to make some guys say, "you keep saying that but when the hell you going to do anything about it?" I know I wonder myself...

One of these days I want to switch over to using a couple tube amps I have along with some individual pedals. I have an Ampeg Revereberocket and a Crate VC3112 I'm thinking of pulling from their cabinets and mounting together in a single cabinet. Along with the Hammond HR40 chassis I'd like to use for my "acoustic" piezo signal if I ever figure out how to make the necessary mods to its circuit.

Needless to say, casters will be a must when this rig is done.

I've got some pedals that I really like, but my songs have developed around the ability to switch patches instantly. I have a Rolls Patchwork loop switcher that I got specifically for that purpose but it has just sat around without being programmed or connected. One of these days, eh? It will take some planning because the Rolls has only four loops which means I can't just plug in the whole arsenal of pedals. Unless I can get my hands on another Patchwork. Or a Rocktron Patchmate at a price I can afford (yeah right).

[GibsonLesPaul]

Yeah, what he said! No seriously, I've owned tube amps; 2 Fender Super Reverbs
(silver face) and a Peavey with twin twelves ( forgot which one). There is just
nothing like the tube sound and I'm thinking that it would do justice to slide
playing.... :thmbsp:

[Sansui Louie]

Tubes is where it's at! My Silvertone 1484 hails from 1964, is schematically a copy of the old Fender Twin of that era, puts out about 50 watts with it's dual 6L6's and is ribcage-crushing loud thru those Celestion Vintage 30's. Actually, the 30's are slightly different...one is the reissue of the original spec 30, and the other is the current 30. Read about that somewhere online, that they complimented each other well, so went with that arrangement.

Had the amp recapped and had an output jack and a 3 prong plug installed (no more mic zap!)

[Bogframe]

I run a Vox Wah-Wah and a Boss Compression Sustainer through a Crate Vintage Club Series amp with either my Strat Squier or my Jay Turser hollow body. I also have a late 60s vintage Baldwin Professional Amp with a spring-loaded reverb that has a wicked ground problem that I need to get someone to fix.

[fotno]

15 watt Fender tube - Peavey Classic 30 watt tube - Gibson Spirit II (Highly Modified w/SG pickups) - 67 Gibson SG - Fender Prodigy - Fender Strat (modified with Texas Specials) - Crybaby - tank reverb - and that's about it. I played around with some Zoom & Boss stuff years ago, but in the end I thoought it sounded kinda plastic. I find that just about all my sound now comes from my hands and a decent amp.

[bellavoce]

I love to run in stereo. My signiture rig is made up of (2) silverface Fender Deluxe Reverbs that i had my amp tech modify by converting the vibrato circuits into parallel FX loops. I run a old RAT pedal on the front end with a splitter on it's output. That slightly boosted signal feeds the input #1 on the vibrato channel of each amp. The speed and intensity controls now are send and recieve controls over each amps FX loop. The send conrols become your L-R signal lines to go to whatever best quality stereo digital processor for Stereo reverb and stereo echo effects. Sounds like a lot of trouble for some subtle effect....right? WRONG! The net effect is transforming! I have found that these tube FX loops make all the difference. There's a whole lot going on here with the gain structures etc. I get this huge imaging with size of sound increased not the loudness. I like subtlety with effects but you can get dense FX and still maintain the original character with this set up.
I'm always in pursuit of "THE" sound and achieving "IT" it just feels so good there. One of my last gigs was sitting in with the band at my son's church.
I had an improvised solo and it was a natural for using those intense effects.
Man it was beautiful! I looked over at a couple of the chicks that sing in the front line. They were weeping! They were smileing and cry'n at the same time. One of them told me she could feel me talking with the guitar. Never underestimate the power of a great FX!
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[Urizen]

I run a stereo rig and can testify to it's versatily.

Welcome aboard! :D

[bellavoce]

I run a stereo rig and can testify to it's versatily.

Welcome aboard! :D

Any opinions on stereo FX processors?
I'm wanting high quality stereo reverb and stereo echo and i guess chorus.
My son recomends Yamaha SPX. Anybody used TC Electronic?
I really get burned out with these guitar processors that have a gazillion gimmick effects that an old analog type guy like me doesn't the stomach or the time to screw around with. Rocktron made what seemed like the ideal unit in the intellifex. But someone told me now outdated and my not have the processing power i need? Would appreciate the help, digital stuff is not my area of expertise. Thanks
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[WhiskeyRebel]

You want to hear an expansive stereo effect AND maintain your "old-analog-guy" esthetic? Don't run the same pedals into both amps. Here are two tricks I've tried that sound very spacious.

1. Split your signal and use a frequency-vibrato (NOT a volume-pulse tremolo) pedal into one of two amps, leaving the other clean. I've done this with a Dunlop Rotovibe set on the "red" vibrato setting. Electronic chorus is generated by electronically mixing a clean signal with a signal whose pitch fluctuates. This set creates a chorus by acoustically blending a clean signal with a pitch-bent signal. The soundstage created is very broad.

2. Split your signal and run a delay into one of the two amps. Set the delay for maximum depth, 100% wet if possible. Set the regeneration to zero so you only have a single repeat. Turn the delay time all the way down and slowly increase the time until you can just barely detect the separate attack of the dleayed note. Then either leave it there or back off the delay just an RCH so you can't quite hear the delayed attack. The sound is as though the guitar was double-tracked with an overdub. Instant arena, especially if the clean amp has its reverb off and the delayed amp has its reverb maxed.

[Urizen]

Any opinions on stereo FX processors?
I'm wanting high quality stereo reverb and stereo echo and i guess chorus.
My son recomends Yamaha SPX. Anybody used TC Electronic?
I really get burned out with these guitar processors that have a gazillion gimmick effects that an old analog type guy like me doesn't the stomach or the time to screw around with. Rocktron made what seemed like the ideal unit in the intellifex. But someone told me now outdated and my not have the processing power i need? Would appreciate the help, digital stuff is not my area of expertise. Thanks
bellavoce

If you wan't to stay "analog", the T.C. Electronics Chorus pedal is the best sounding chorus I have heard from a pedal. I don't use much chorus, so I sold mine. :worried: As far as analog delay goes, a vintage Echoplex sounds glorious but is expensive and prone to break down. Fulltone has a great looking clone of one but it is unreally expensive. I like my Chandler Digital Echo. If you can live with a rack unit, it sounds as analog as any echo I have heard and is versatile with many output options. I really can't recommend a floor multi-processor for I have never used one, and don't plan on it! :naughty: Btw, I have heard great things about the Intellifex. A used one may be the way to go, or a used Lexicon MPX-500.

Good luck!

[bellavoce]

You want to hear an expansive stereo effect AND maintain your "old-analog-guy" esthetic? Don't run the same pedals into both amps. Here are two tricks I've tried that sound very spacious.

1. Split your signal and use a frequency-vibrato (NOT a volume-pulse tremolo) pedal into one of two amps, leaving the other clean. I've done this with a Dunlop Rotovibe set on the "red" vibrato setting. Electronic chorus is generated by electronically mixing a clean signal with a signal whose pitch fluctuates. This set creates a chorus by acoustically blending a clean signal with a pitch-bent signal. The soundstage created is very broad.

2. Split your signal and run a delay into one of the two amps. Set the delay for maximum depth, 100% wet if possible. Set the regeneration to zero so you only have a single repeat. Turn the delay time all the way down and slowly increase the time until you can just barely detect the separate attack of the dleayed note. Then either leave it there or back off the delay just an RCH so you can't quite hear the delayed attack. The sound is as though the guitar was double-tracked with an overdub. Instant arena, especially if the clean amp has its reverb off and the delayed amp has its reverb maxed.
Wow, i know what your talking about. I have a VOX sound lab SE. Intresting all-in-one tube/digital modeling prossesser thing. Anyway one of the effects is some kind of combination between the delay and the modulation that sounds just like what you described. It was capable of some wacky wide spacial stuff but just couldn't seem to get it just quite right, could never stop messing with it. I finally just stopped completely. I'm selling the VOX pedal but must admit it is an interesting piece. Very versitile for recording but doesn't get what i want for live sound.
URIZEN, you mentioned the Echoplex. I've got an old beater i've had for about 25 years. Was beat up when i got it. Is not currently working but i'll never get rid of it. I'm sure one of these days i'll pour more money in it and get it working again. Hopefully for more than the 4 or 5 hours the last $100 got me! But, i do love that noisey old SOB! Maybe i will try an Intelifex next.
Well thanks,see you guys later.
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