View Full Version : 2 guitars on "Getz/Gilberto" ?


FoolForARadio
11-16-2005, 10:47 AM
Are there two guitarists playing together at some points on this record? Gilberto is listed on guitar. The reason I ask is that I auditioned some bookshelf speakers yesterday. I heard drum work and mids and highs a lot better on JM Labs Chorus 706's than on Paradigm Minimonitors, but then I listened to JM Labs Cobalt 806's and I swear I heard 2 guitars somewhere about Corcovado or So Danco Samba, and I think one of them was an electric guitar! Speakers so good you hear things that aren't there? Does anyone know?

Wornears
11-16-2005, 12:59 PM
Fairly amazing speakers to be able to add an electric guitar to that recording!

I have the original Verve album and the Verve "Desert Island Disc" (Master Edition = meticulous restoration, high-resolution, 20-bit digital transfer, bonus liner notes, etc. according to the packaging) of this recording. Also lived in Brasil in the '70s, if that helps <G>. One of my all-time faves.

I didn't recall ever hearing another guitarist, even an electric one on this entire set -- but got out the album and re-mastered CD to check the liner notes, and it's only Joao Gilberto on there.

I fired up the CD and listened to the two cuts you mentioned on my (relatively) lowly JBL-L-36s, and modified Dynaco A-25XLs and think you may have been hearing some piano fills by the masterful Antonio Carlos Jobim. Gilberto is loud and clear on the right speaker to my ears.

Hope this helps. YMMV.

FoolForARadio
11-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Thanks, Wornears. I see you are also from NC. I googled "Getz/Gilberto" and couldn't find anything definitive, but I did see a source that listed Jobim on guitar and also piano. Which fueled my speculation. I must listen some more, it's a great album. But I've listened to it for years, and I never thought I heard 2 guitars before.

Wornears
11-17-2005, 04:13 PM
Yes, live North of Charlotte in Kannapolis, "Towel City," birthplace of Dale Earnhardt and home of "Lint Heads" (a name of blue-collar honor and fighting words to some. Comes from all the -- former -- Cannon mill workers here who produced Cannon towels and other cloth products.)

It is a fact that Jobim was also classically trained on guitar along with piano, and was an outstanding guitarist, but I've never seen any reference to his playing on this album. Not to say he didn't! Maybe he did and just didn't get the credit -- given how it was Gilberto's prime instrument, and the piano was Jobim's. Also given Stan Getz's ego and general contrariness, it's a bit of a wonder anybody but him got credit on the album <G>.

If you like this record, get "Jazz Samba" with Charlie Byrd/Stan Getz (Amazon has the remastered Verve CD version of it on now sale for an incredible $10.00.) Then get "Elis & Tom", which is Elis Regina and Jobim together in 1974.

Elis was an amazingly gifted, volatile, insecure Brasilian singer/vocalist, a real rags to riches story, politically controversial (her taking on Brasil's military military junta of the time took titanium ovaries -- she makes Madanna look like a schoolgirl), who tragically died of an accidental cocaine overdose. Her singing is just amazingly alive on this recording with Jobim. Another "must have" if you have any interest in this sort of music. I have it on vinyl, and have to get it on CD because I play it so much.

For a quick overview of Elis Regina [called in Portuguese Furacao (hurricane) and Pimentinha (little pepper)] see this link:

http://www.caravanmusic.com/Articles/ReginaE_StLouis.htm