Saw "Walk The Line" Tonight

[2DualsNotEnough]

My wife and I went to see the Johnny Cash biopic tonight.My wife knows very little about him,and has only heard a few songs of his when I play him in the car.
I think Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon do a wonderful job.I think Phoenix gets pretty close to the spirit of his singing style,while Reese nails Carter right on the head.
The movie on the whole is standard biopic fare.I think they spend way too much time on Cash's addiction to pills.It reminded me too much of the story arc in last years RAY.My wife kept asking me about his life and music after the film,and I told her I think they could make three or four really good films on different aspects of his life:His years and experiences while at Sun records.His friendship with Bob Dylan over the years.His years of touring and evangelizing all over the world,etc.
My biggest disapointment was that the Folsom Prison concert sequence was way too short.But the duet there on Jackson is just amazing stuff.
And I really would have loved to hear him,at the end,do Man In Black,which I think gets at a lot of the major contradictions in his life.

Overall,not a bad film.And it made me want to take out all my old Cash records.
Jimmy

[fotno]

I've been kind of afraid to go see it Jimmy... I admired Johnny as a man, and adored his music. I've been scared of seeing it, for fear of being disapointed with the portrayals. Still "fence sittin" this one, but I'm feeling more inclined with every good review from "music people" I hear.

[Celt]

Gonna go see it this afternoon at the "5 buck matinee". Yep, I'm like Fotno, will probably hate to see *the reality behind the mask* of Johnny...but like "Ray" (Ray Charles movie), it's based on the truth and there's no sense of skirting or re-writing history (or herstory).

[dbwinger]

Overall I think it was a pretty good movie. Joaquin Phoenix did a really good impersonation of Johnny as far as guitar style and maneurisms.

I too think they concentrated way too much on the pill addiction. I would have liked a better balance between the drugs and the music. I knew drugs would be some of the focus of the movie, but it didn't bother me because I knew that was part of his life.

If you are sitting on the fence go see the movie. You will like it. I didn't think it was as good as Ray, but still very entertaining. The music scenes made me want to get up and dance.

[schoolboy]

He was an ADVOCATE of drug use in some of his songs so you have to assume the movie would address this. I am going to a special screening in a couple weeks at the Rock Hall. I'm not a Cash expert, but definitely a fan. I saw him once, and some of my favorite 78's are Johnny Cash 78's on Sun.

[mg196]

I am not going to see it, but not because it is "good or bad." I like my biographies to be of the PBS nature: complete non-fictionalization. Here is an article from the Tennesean.com:

Kathy Cash couldn't stay in her seat at a family-only screening of Walk the Line, a biopic about her dad, Johnny Cash.

"I was very upset," she said. "I walked out on that film five times."

Kathy Cash of Hendersonville, one of Johnny Cash's five offspring, thinks the movie is good and that performances by Joaquin Phoenix as her dad and former Nashvillian Reese Witherspoon as her stepmother June Carter Cash are Oscar-worthy. What troubles her is feeling that the film unfairly portrays her mother, Vivian Liberto Distin, Johnny Cash's first wife, as a shrew.

And Kathy Cash, in an interview with The Tennessean, says Walk the Line fails to show the pain that she and her three sisters endured during their father's fight with drugs or their parents' divorce. The film fails to include any meaningful scenes at all with the children, for that matter, she said, and also portrays Johnny Cash's father too negatively.

"Anyone who wants a good sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll movie is gonna love it," she said. "I'm anticipating dyed-in-the-wool fans objecting to a lot of stuff."

Of Cash's five children, two have not seen the film; Rosanne Cash has but couldn't be reached yesterday for comment.

John Carter Cash — Johnny and June's only child together and an executive producer for Walk the Line — says his half-sister's criticisms have merit. But he says it's OK to take some license and that, in the bigger picture, the movie succeeds in telling his parents' love story.

"Kathy grew up in a household I was never in. I'm compassionately understanding," John Carter Cash said. "The point of the film is my parents' love affair. That's the lasting light that lived through their lives. The most important thing for my parents on this Earth was their love for each other."

Kathy Cash understands that point, she says, but doesn't think it's OK to sacrifice people's reputation to tell the story.

She is most disappointed that the film seemingly ignores much of Johnny and Vivian's happy time together before her father started using drugs. Vivian was the woman Cash pledged to remain faithful to in his song I Walk the Line, after which the movie is named. "Mom and Dad had a very happy 13-year marriage, including four girls until the pills, etc., got in the way," she said.

The film at first shows Vivian worried that Johnny's music career couldn't support the family. Later, it shows her angry and bitter as her husband battles his demons and as he gets closer to June.

"My mom was basically a nonentity in the entire film except for the mad little psycho who hated his career. That's not true. She loved his career and was proud of him until he started taking drugs and stopped coming home," Kathy Cash said.

She said there were more happy years than not.

"I have a lot of really fun positive memories of my parents, doing stuff at my grandparents, picnics, barbecues, doing silly things and having fun. They left out any good part. That's what bothers me so bad. She was his first love."

Kathy says she's particularly sensitive about how her mother is portrayed because her mother died earlier this year in California as a result of complications from lung cancer.

John Carter Cash concedes the film has few happy moments between Johnny and his first wife. But he also suggested there wasn't much cooperation on that front.

"Vivian is, of course, not here to say for herself, sadly, but Vivian chose not for her character to have any in-depth portrayal in the film," he said.

Kathy Cash said her mother was hesitant to cooperate with writers and producers because she had for most of her life been tight-lipped about her marriage to Johnny. Kathy Cash said her mother also felt that movie producers might portray the marriage in a negative way and that they wouldn't agree to provide Vivian a script when she asked to see one.

Kathy and John Carter Cash say they get along well, as do all the Cash children, but both say they didn't talk much directly to each other about the movie.

Kathy Cash said film writer Gill Dennis spent time with everyone in the immediate family, herself included, and together they wrote a scene about a time, when Kathy was 9, that her mother put the girls in the car to leave Johnny.

"Dad was pilled up, and she said, 'I'm not gonna do this, I'm leaving.' All four of us were in the car, and she locked the door," Kathy said. Johnny came out to the car, then parked in the driveway and tapped on the window.

"He said, 'Kathy, honey, open the door.' My mom said, 'Don't you dare open the door.' I finally pulled my hair over my ears and shouted, 'Stop it! I hate both of you!' "

They wrote that scene while her father was still alive, and Kathy Cash said Johnny Cash thought it was painful but that it should be in the movie. After he died, the scene was pulled.

John Carter Cash said of that episode: "Maybe that scene was there and it was taken out."

Why?

"If all the girls had said was 'I hate you' and that's all that was left in the movie, there wouldn't have been any light there."

The movie instead showed Johnny, during the day, chasing the car as Vivian drove away.

Johnny's father, Ray Cash, appears in the film as cold and verbally abusive. Kathy Cash says that's unfair to her grandfather.

"He wasn't the sweetest person in the world back then, but …. Dad did have his problems with him. Some of it was true, some wasn't. It was blown up to high proportions."

Again, John Carter Cash doesn't necessarily disagree.

"The fact of the matter: If there was angst between my grandfather and my father, it was unstated. My father never showed anything but tolerance, love, patience. … I never saw him talk back to (his father.) That's the reality.

"But to shed light on who my dad was, some of the struggles between my father and my grandfather were dramatized. And I do think it was necessary for the movie."

John Carter Cash concedes overall that there are omissions and dramatizations, but that they were necessary to tell the love story. "Nobody can ever see totally eye to eye. I respect the film for what it is, and I love it for what it is. There are great holes. And there are solid fans who'll say, what about this and what about that? Look for one thing: Look for their love. Look where their love lasted. That's the message."

[2DualsNotEnough]

Non fictional?Have you seen many documentaries?
Jimmy

[mg196]

A TRUE documentary is NON fiction. Present things as they are (DOCUMENT): no "artistic license." I know this was a Hollywood production, which is why I'll pass. May be a good movie, just not my type.

[Mr. Snoid]

mg196...thanks for providing the article....interesting perspective...i am looking forward to seeing the movie..a

[2DualsNotEnough]

I apologize to Mg196 for coming off nasty in my previous post.I guess Ive just seen so many documentaries,even ones that Ive enjoyed,that slanted things,or left out information to make a point,or to streamline the story.
I had read a similar story about Kathy Cash,and I really dont know where shes coming from.I thought his first wife didnt come off unsympathetic at all.They showed him gone on the road all the time,and then on pills later,and I wouldnt blame her at all for being upset.You have to realize that they had to give her short shrift so that they could get to the Cash-Carter love story.The story arc revolves around them,not earlier or later parts of his life.
That said,I didnt go to the movie to see facts up on the screen,I went to see a dramatazation of his music,which I think they did very well.The rest of the movie just came off as a very average biopic.
Jimmy

[mg196]

2Duals, no offense taken! Like I said, it may be a very enjoyable movie, but I'll hold off. There is an old Cash documentary (70's?) that floats around cable all the time. I think it was on the Independent Film Channel last I saw and it is pretty interesting. Cash visiting the old house he grew up in...no real story line...just lots of footage and him talkin' about the past.

[Chad Hauris]

Went to the Drive-in last night and saw this movie, it was the second feature of the double feature (first was "Chicken Little").

[jguzman21]

Went the other night to see it and loved it. J. Phoenix did a great job!

john

[Andyman]

Watching "Johnny Cash at San Quentin" on CMT right now if you want to really see Johnny sing. It looks like Carl Perkins on guitar too.

It's repeated tonight at 11:00 PM EDT 7/3/2006

Saw "Walk the Line" a few days back on DVD, and while I thought Phoenix captured Cash's phrasings and style very well, it was hard for me to believe that Cash was that "mixed up" as Mother Maybelle said near the end. All that wacky guitar playing seemed a bit over the top too.
Overall, a decent flick, but I don't know about Academy Award worthy. Witherspoon seemed much more believable.

[wesley1959]

J Phoenix was robbed of a best actor award by PS Hoffman. No way he should have won over the performance Juaquin put into Walk the Line. I was really shocked when the best actor was anounced. What a rip.

[junkaudio]

just watched the movie on dvd .great movie ,good music ,good sound
:thmbsp:

[Tubejunke]

Good movie, great band sound, bad singer. To me that is a turn off because althought Johnny was very interesting for many reasons, his voice is what America grew up on. I never saw him in person but there hasnt been a time I can remember in my life that that voice was not 100% recognizable and pleasing to the ear and mind.

[doctorbongo]

I've been kind of afraid to go see it Jimmy... I admired Johnny as a man, and adored his music. I've been scared of seeing it, for fear of being disapointed with the portrayals. Still "fence sittin" this one, but I'm feeling more inclined with every good review from "music people" I hear.

In 1967, I went back to the aunt and uncle's farm in iowa.
was trooping around with the 8 year older cousin, and
fell in love with my first song: Light My Fire.
I was perfectly fine with Oliver Stone's "The Doors."
AND, my gf had "Walk the Line" for six months, and when we
finally watched it, I thought it was excellent.

Reese Witherspoon is OUTSTANDING. Joaquin Phoenix nails it, too.

Worst case: you see it once, and perhaps learn a factoid you didn't know.
That's one of the bright spots; I think it was fairly faithful to the story.

[thedelihaus]

Joaquin Phoenix did a great job, I think Phillip Seymour Hoffman did an excellent job in his roll too, however- totally different styles of movie, and completely different roles.

Both deserve awards.

As for Reese Witherspoon- well, I've never complained about her in the past, but she practically, single-handedly ruined the movie for me.

Sorry- just didn't like her portrayal of Miss Cash at all.

That's just my opinion though.

[jonman]

I am hoping they will do a sequel and cover the later part of his life including the snubbing from Colombia Records and mainstream country radio, and the time of his comeback with the American recordings.

[Tubejunke]

I am hoping they will do a sequel and cover the later part of his life including the snubbing from Colombia Records and mainstream country radio, and the time of his comeback with the American recordings.

YES! They could very, very easily do a sequel. First they could elaborate more on the things that happened between 1955 and the time frame the movie begins and ends in (I think) 1965 or later. Unless I missed dates at the bottom of the screen the story kind of spans a wider range of time than the average viewer may realize. I am a fan so I could tell that they were at much different times of his carreer. One minute you are in Sam Phillips studio where Johnny is being discovered, the next you are in the HEAVY drug use years hearing him mention Bob Dylan and having dinner at his mansion. He and June are then performing Jackson which I thought was a 1969 hit (?) They could have done a better job making you more aware of how much time had passed. A 15 year old might find Johnny's story fascinating but think that it all happened in 4 or 5 years. Maybe some folks don't know that Bob Dylan was not big on the scene in the late 50's. To me THAT was the clue that I was now in maybe 1963 or 1964.

I guess in only a couple of hours you can only hit the high spots and there is a lot of story to tell about Johnny Cash. They should have made it as long as JFK or something. The still could do a sequel after 3 hours I think. I'm not saying the movie stunk at all. I like it by and large, but being a fan kind of makes you real critical of the portrayal.

I guess the actor did about as good as anybody could do. My second viewing actually made me see more of Johnny in him. I wasnt as busy noticing the weird timeline portrayal and the overdone body movements.

Still in all it a good thing and a sequel again would be very easy. I would like to see something about his interest and work with the couterculture (The Johnny Cash Show), Bob Dylan, and Jesus Christ.

[soundmotor]

My wife and I went to see the Johnny Cash biopic tonight.

~10 years ago I flew to CES out of Boston. My coworker spotted a guy sitting up ahead of us and said it was Johnny Cash. Sure enough it was, but I barely recognized him. He was in real tough shape like he'd had a stroke. When we got off the plane he had stopped to wait for some others. We thanked him for his music and he seemed genuinely appreciative.

[Tubejunke]

He had some kind of nerve damaging disease. I forget the name of it. I had thought for a while that he had a stroke because it looked like half of his face was numb. His speach was a bit slurred. Shortly before he died he came on Larry King Live and explained his situation. Many say that he tortured his body into an early grave but Johnny stated that he didnt think any of the ailments that were big issues later in his life were related to drug abuse or whatnot.