View Full Version : Sex Pistols in the RR HOF


3-LockBox
12-02-2005, 01:37 AM
Excuse me if this has already been discussed but I'm having a problem with two of this years inductees to the Rock-n-Roll Hall Of Fame. SexPistols and Miles Davis.

Miles Davis may have had a little influence on R-n-R, but he's getting a full induction. Why? He was a great musician...of jazz. And if he gets an induction, where's Herbie Hancock's nomination, or Dave Brubeck, or Thelonius Monk...maybe there should be Jazz Hall Of Fame...yeah, I thought so.

The Sex Pistols certainly had an influence and maybe deserve some sort of honorable mention, but they only made one album. One frikkin album. This feels more like a pop culture thing to me. And if that's ok - inducting a group or person based on their influence on pop culture as a whole, then where's Charles Manson's or Son Of Sam's nominations. Oh, does it need to be a positive influence. Ok, back to my original question...why the Sex Pistols.

At least Lynard Skynard and Black Sabbath got in, but does Sabbath get in if Ozzie doesn't become the TV whore he is now? Does all of the Skynard clan occupy the stage at once without a brawl?

The RR HOF is a sham. There are so many acts that deserve to be there that will never make it in their lifetimes, its a shame to see space available misused to this degree.

Mark B
12-02-2005, 02:47 AM
The RR HOF is a sham. There are so many acts that deserve to be there that will never make it in their lifetimes, its a shame to see space available misused to this degree.
IMO the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has lost it's credibility due to its bias against some performers. For other artists who have been inexplicably ignored check this thread (http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43334&highlight=hall+fame)

3-LockBox
12-02-2005, 03:35 AM
IMO the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has lost it's credibility due to its bias against some performers. For other artists who have been inexplicably ignored check this thread (http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43334&highlight=hall+fame)

Thanx for that!

clint e.
12-02-2005, 09:02 AM
In my opinion, RRHOF is a decadent institution that have nothing to do with Rock'n'Roll. :nono:
The Sex Pistols were a Rock'n'Roll Comedy created by Malcolm Mclaren and Vivian Westwood.
...But,at the same time was the sparkle of something very important in music and cultural terms that began in mid 70's till nowadays.
The media call it Punk. :guitar:
...But,the whole idea were to take the spirit and inspiration of the moment and do your own thing with it. :yes:

The emerge of new bands, like :
Joy Division, Television, Talking Heads, Gang Of Four, The Clash, The Fall, The Jam, PiL, The Specials, The Pogues, The Cure (and the Goth) Bob Marley (and the jamaican Dub and Reggae) and the RE-birth of bands such as, Iggy & The Stooges, Patti Smith or the Ex-Velvet - John Cale, only to name a few...and the REvival of 50's Rock'n'Rollers (Link Wray) and Heavy Metal (Motorhead), this was not possible if The Sex Pistols impact on the music industry never exists.

clint.

Drybasement
12-02-2005, 09:47 AM
Miles Davis ushered in the whole fusion movement, that is, the combination of rock and jazz. Many of his band members went on to form some very well know fusion bands. I'd list those bands and their members who played under Miles Davis but what's the point. I do agree that Miles Davis was first and foremost a jazz musician. His induction into the RoRHoF is most likely based on his contribution to music and not "rock" music in general. The RoRHoF is not for everyone. I've visited the museum twice now. First with my dearly departed best friend Jim and second with my wife only because she really wanted to see it. Now that her (and mine) curiosity is fulfilled I doubt I'll ever visit that place again. In fact, the RoRHoF never even enters my mind until I see these threads pop up.

Oh, can't comment on The Sex Pistols. I never was a fan of punk music and didn't follow the culture.

shrinkboy
12-02-2005, 09:55 AM
i could care less about the RR HOF, but surely the pistols belong there, because even if they only did one album, rather than scads of albums that all sounded alike, and even if they were a band put together as a joke, that one album is a monumentally great distillation of all that is good and little that is bad in rock music. it is one of those one's i can listen to today and like as much now as i did back then. and clint gets it right with pointing out that they cut the turf for other great bands, most importantly joy division, whose music holds the same power now that it always has, and always will.