View Full Version : Acoustic Research AR18, - any good???


ToTo Man
12-08-2005, 09:03 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ACOUSTIC-RESEARCH-AR18-not-yam-ns10m-MONITORS_W0QQitemZ7372236300QQcategoryZ23794QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone have any freq. response specs on these babies? :scratch2:

acronym
12-08-2005, 09:59 AM
user manual : classicspeakerpages.net (http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/ar/ADD/ADD.htm)

may help

ARguy
12-08-2005, 10:08 AM
The AR18 is a fine bookshelf speaker in my opinion. It's an update of the classic AR7 which is much coveted. I can't view the auction right now but will take a look when I get home after work. My first pair of ARs were the 7s and I still own them and continue to be played right along with everything else I have. The 18 is a nice neutral speaker that you should be happy with playing most types music.

juncers
12-08-2005, 10:33 AM
If they're like the AR7's ( and ARguy would know!), they are definitely worth getting. I have 3 pairs of AR7's and are always looking for more ( at the right price). They have a balanced sound with good bass and are small enough to take anywhere ( I take them across the pond to my summer house in Maine frequently). I wouldn't pay any more than 35 quid/pr. for them and much less if they need to be refoamed.

Ray

mhardy6647
12-08-2005, 11:26 AM
VERY nice small bookshelf speakers.

The attached scan from the "Truth in Listening" brochure probably isn't legible, but it's also available at the aforementioned "Classic Speaker Pages"... Also, I can e-mail a high(er)-quality scan of the page if you wish (send me a PM).

kfa888
12-08-2005, 12:29 PM
The drivers look the same but the placment and cab are different in the pic and the Epay auction.

mhardy6647
12-08-2005, 12:51 PM
The page I posted are the original, unsuffixed AR-18's. There were a number of later versions (generations). I am really only familiar with the originals, FWIW.

txsviking
12-08-2005, 01:14 PM
If they're like the AR7's ( and ARguy would know!), they are definitely worth getting. I have 3 pairs of AR7's and are always looking for more ( at the right price). They have a balanced sound with good bass and are small enough to take anywhere ( I take them across the pond to my summer house in Maine frequently). I wouldn't pay any more than 35 quid/pr. for them and much less if they need to be refoamed.

Ray

Hey Ray, pardon my lack of knowledge (I'm from Texas) but
whats a quid? :scratch2:
Terry

mhardy6647
12-08-2005, 01:21 PM
"quid" is a UK pound (money, not weight)

ToTo Man
12-08-2005, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the scan mrh. If i'm not mistaken, they look to be about 35hz to 20khz +/- 10db, right? My current monitor speakers are 'Gale Gold Monitors' and I really like them, particularly for the high-freq. 'airy presence' they seem to give :). Gale quote them as being 60hz to 20kHz, with no +/- indication. But I've ran a test tone CD and they go down to 40Hz with not much drop in volume. The following website gives a pretty glowing review of my Gales (though it may be a biased one!):
http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/gale.htm

So, I was wondering whether the AR18s would in fact be better than what I've currently got? Its times like these when I really wish I had a freq. response graph for the Gales so that I could easily compare them on paper to the AR18s!...

ARguy
12-08-2005, 03:14 PM
I would hazard a guess that the Gales are probably a better sounding speaker...

ToTo Man
12-08-2005, 03:22 PM
FWIW The Gales retail in the UK for around 80GBP new. I got mine off ebay last year for 30GBP and it's the best 30GBP I've spent so far. I was looking at those AR18s in hope that they might capture some of the magic which the AR9s supposedly have, but I suppose I'm being a bit optimistic there! :)

ady
12-08-2005, 03:33 PM
i have a pair of AR18LS speakers, i was given for nothing, which i'm in the process of refoaming...

are these later models than the 18's discussed here?

do they have a similar sound?


thanks

MarkAnderson
12-08-2005, 03:51 PM
I was looking at those AR18s in hope that they might capture some of the magic which the AR9s supposedly have, but I suppose I'm being a bit optimistic there! :)

I don't know. If the model numbers are any indication, the AR18s should be twice as good as AR9s, right?........No? Okay, maybe not. - Mark

kfa888
12-08-2005, 04:02 PM
That makes my AR94's 10.4444444 times better than AR9's... WoooHooo

MarkAnderson
12-08-2005, 04:13 PM
Does your wife know about this "falling in love with Maggie" thing?

kfa888
12-08-2005, 04:31 PM
Does your wife know about this "falling in love with Maggie" thing?

Yes, I think it is obvious when I ask her to please move out of the sound stage :D

yosl
12-08-2005, 05:29 PM
I had a pair of 18Bs which apparently were the last of the Teledyne's. They were very impressive for their size particularly given their vintage, i.e.: they came out long before the current generation of compact speakers. However, when faced with the choice of keeping either the 18Bs or a pair Energy ESM-3s, I kept the ESM-3s. The ESM-3s were just more dynamic at lower volumes (more efficient??).

Would you get some of the AR magic if you got a pair of 18s? I could hear the family resemblence, faintly. Not having heard the Gales I nevertheless suspect that the 18s will sound quite different. Consequently, it isn't a question of better or worse, it's one of personal taste.

ARguy
12-08-2005, 06:34 PM
I took a look at the auction and noticed that they had been refoamed and it looks like one of the tweeters' dome is pushed in (right speaker in picture). I would be asking who did the work and if anything is physically wrong with them. I would prefer to buy them as is in original condition and do the work myself. It's a big stretch from 18s to 9s...if you can get them cheap them give them a try and if you don't like them sell 'em. Good luck!

ToTo Man
12-09-2005, 03:13 PM
Well, I decided to leave them given the circumstances. They sold for 50GBP, which, as you say, is a bit high. Looks like I'll be waiting with baited breath to see if a set of AR9s pop up :)

marktdj
12-15-2008, 05:09 PM
I have 2 pair of the Ar 18s and a pair of the AR 48s. Personally, I love the sound of both, but I'm from the school of "you can never have enough speakers!"

javelin79
12-15-2008, 06:14 PM
The AR9 is the pinnacle of AR speakers as I have a pair. The only problem is they are very very power hungry. I have a set of DH-500's powering them of course the 500's are in mono. At an estimated 800wpc in 4ohm it still isn't enough. The odd part is while there running they have a nasty habit of dropping down to 2ohms. I have the 9's a pair of AR-11's and AR-10pi's not to mention the 18b's. The 18's and the 18b's are very nice and a great value. Nice mids and highs not to mention great high bass. The 8 inch driver in the 18 is very simiiar to the 8 inch midrange in my AR-9's. Hope that helps.

jaybird
12-15-2008, 07:35 PM
I have a pair of 18's and 18b's and the sound great in a small room. These speakers I usually loan to friends and the last time an 18 came back it was missing a woofer, still haven't found one to replace it! The 18b's are still out, the guy loves them !