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thedelihaus
02-07-2006, 12:32 AM
A few posts on ebay you may be interested follow this breif inquiry.

Any sites or fanclubs of this brand? I'd like to learn a bit more about them. I do know it was the house brand of JC Penney, and NEC and Matsushita (Panasonic/Technics) made some of the gear, with claims possibly Pioneer as well.

I personally dislike the generic MCS (Modular Component Systems) name, but have to say I've been impressed with some of the offerings, for example, the MCS 6500 faux-wood based turntable below (average eBay price for this model in my experience has been $9 to $40 though this model with Grado stylus is up to $44 as I write this) and this MASSIVE MCS 3253 receiver I had planned on bidding on for my brother-in-law (one of many systems I've been working on with him) UNTIL he took a shine to the black-face Sansuis this weekend.

MCS 3253 receiver
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5861524247&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT


MCS 6500 faux-wood based turntable-
http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-NICE-MCS-TURNTABLE-MODEL-6500-GRADO-CARTRIDGE_W0QQitemZ5862469867QQcategoryZ3283QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Damage
02-07-2006, 01:59 AM
For looks, I'll keep my 3250 (50x2) and 3260(60x2) over any others.... well I haven't seen a 3285/3265 yet.

thedelihaus
02-07-2006, 02:18 AM
I'm passing on both, though at some point I wouldn't mind one of those turntables just because of the faux-wood finish. Nifty. I thought someone out there in the forum might however be interested in these auctions. But thanks for the advice.

I'm just checking on who are fans, and if there are any site out there dedicated to the brand. I'm quite happy with the stuff I currently run, but I'm always interested in other less popular makes, such as the neat Nikkos, these MCSs, and Mitsubishis, three of which I don't see or hear much of. I really like hearing of these less spoken of, for pure reading enjoyment.

cheers,

paul

Oldsf85
02-07-2006, 06:24 AM
I picked up a complete Mcs system last summer at a yard sale for 20 dollars,the system consisted of a 3684 integrated amplifier,65 watts per channel, 3701 tuner ,6601 direct drive turntable and 8245 three way speaker system.
Also came with the owners manuals for all components including the speakers.Its realy not that bad of equipment.

bolly
02-07-2006, 06:41 AM
I'll go out on a limb and say that MCS Guy likes MCS. :)

thedelihaus
02-07-2006, 08:40 PM
vintagestereo,

I look forward to seeing those mitsus!

MCS Guy
02-07-2006, 09:47 PM
If you wish to know more about the 3125's and the 3285's, check out my pages on them.

http://hometown.aol.com/fhpatrooper/MCSwebpage.html

The other receivers that are on my good to own list ar ethe 3275 and the 3253.

The 3260 is a nice digital tuner receiver that works great as well.

I have a MCS 6500 TT, its not a bad table, but its not high end material. With a good cartridge and stylus, they do sound pretty good. Mine still has the banner on the lid that lists the specs.

mattybumpkin
02-07-2006, 09:54 PM
that a guy was selling local about a year ago, at the time I didn't care for the looks. Little did I know then... :cry:

Oh well....

thedelihaus
02-07-2006, 10:00 PM
Thanks, Sonny (MCS Guy)!

MCS Guy
02-08-2006, 10:23 PM
Sonny -- Thanks for sharing the MCS pages with us. But, let me make sure I understand. The 3125 and the 3285 both have 4 filter caps. However, it appears from your write-ups that the filter caps in the 3285 have larger capacity. Is that correct? Also, a correction about the price of the 3285, it was $699.00 and I have an ad to prove it. The 3125 has hit the radar, but the 3285 is still available for peanuts and, I agree, an exceptional performer. Everything works very smoothly and I've never had any problems with mine.

1) yes, the 3285 is 8200mf and the 3125 is 6800mf.

2) That was the price off orion blue book.

ukfan4sure!
02-14-2006, 08:40 AM
When I was first married, I drooled over the really cool looking 3260 top of the line receiver. I settled for the 3245. I can't remember the price, but I also bought the cassette deck and speakers to boot. Not bad stuff! I kept the receiver for over 20 years! Worked fine for my needs. I still have the cassette deck, but gave the receiver to a friend....

jacksonalan
06-21-2006, 07:25 AM
mcs guy...you seem like the guy to ask ...got a mint 3125 with a bad left channel...what would be the most likely problem here and do you know a good repair center for this type of receiver....any help with this would be great....it seems like a pretty good receiver from what I have read..thanks

Joey1127
06-28-2006, 10:57 AM
Yes,

MCS made some really NICE stuff as they were mainly a combo of Technics, Hitachi, and JVC. MCS was a house brand much like Quadraflex was the house brand to Pacific Stereo. Quadraflex originaly comrpised Pioneer, Sansui, and a few ROTEL bits.

I can tell you about the Turntables... The MCS 6500 was a re-bagged HITACHI HT-250. The Direct Drive version, the MCS-6600, was a re-bagged HITACHI HT-350. They are somewhat of a budget wonder you could say in their price point. The later MCS Turntables were mostly JVC and Technics units and, IMO, not nearly as good as the 6500 or 6600. Quality started to go down shortly after the 6500 and 6600 Turntables were discontinued.

I had a friend that was in the Marines in the 1970's and he purchased an MCS Receiver, 6500 turntable, real-to-real, and a cassette player from the BX back in 1977. This was GREAT stuff for the money and hey, it was made by the same companies that were selling a much higher priced unit similar to the MCS.

Enjoy your Music!

Joey

cp2buy
06-28-2006, 05:18 PM
Any ideal about who made the MCS 6700 and the quality?

Joey1127
06-28-2006, 05:56 PM
Hey cp2buy,

The Fully Auto MCS 6700 is essentialy a Technics SL-1950 with the switches and buttons used on the upper end Hitachi Turntables. Has the GOOD Technics tonearm and the ability to accept a changer spindal. Overall, I would say if you needed an auto deck with changer capability, this is a nice unit. However, from a Direct Drive stand point, the MCS 6600 would be a better unit, but it cannot stack records.

Joey

brownplus
06-28-2006, 08:37 PM
have a minty fresh 3323 mcs 3323 but am too dumb to insert pic...though i tried with the address and the hoy and the heffer etc..

anyone fill me in on it? other than it sounds better than my akais and not as good as my intamp NEC. That silver face is about the best i ever seen other than pioneer sx series. I LOVE telling peeps its jcpenny...then turning up some flaming lips onnit....

i knew technics but did not know nec may be involved? they make incredible stuff...or did.

cp2buy
07-03-2006, 11:17 PM
Thanks Joey, I have not given my mcs 6700 much playing time, due to lab 400, and sansui 535. I will in the future. Is there a vintage web sit for mcs stuff. I have some mcs speakers 8320 and 3249 receiver (i believe i loan it to a friend) that i feel are nice quality units.

Joey1127
07-06-2006, 10:04 AM
Ya know, there is not a web-site dedicated to MCS gear that I'm aware of. As it was an in-house brand, it was everywhere, and then it was gone. A lot like Quadraflex. MCS had some GREAT stuff (re-badged Hitachi, Technics, and JVC) but hey are now but a timespace in history. Not a lot of followers like with Sansui or Pioneer.

Maybe someone should start an MCS Page???

joey

dr*audio
07-06-2006, 12:36 PM
I'm listening to my 3253 right now! Picked up for $5 at a garage sale. :tresbon:

shstrang
07-07-2006, 04:15 AM
My parents bought this one for me for Christmas one year. I had originally wanted a Pioneer PL112d but they thought I'd like this one better.

http://www.oaktreevintage.com/web_photos/Stereo_Turntables_CD/MCS_6500_Stereo_Turntable_collage.jpg


I had tried Ortofon, Acutex, Azden, various Shures and Audio Technicas with this MCS table and never could get distortion free sound.

I hated this table and replaced it with a Yamaha tt 300 which sounded drastically better if you can believe that. I could actually hear tape hiss on vinyl with the Yammy that I never heard with the MCS.

tankdonovan
07-07-2006, 06:56 AM
I saw a MCS 3125 at an Estate Sale about a year ago. I knew it was a Pennys house brand but didn`t know anything else about it. They wanted $25. I checked it out and one channel was real weak. I didn`t buy it. When I got home I posted on AK about seeing it. I told was a little about it and that the weak channel probably needed cleaning. I was told I should have bought it. Well, I went back to the Estate Sale the next day{Sunday} and it was still there. Price had been reduced to $18. I bought it and the AK`ers were right it was just dirty controls. I was and still am amazed at the sound and power of this receiver. I can`t remark on other MCS products but the MCS 3125 is an outstanding preformer.

I would also like to see a web-site dedicated to MCS gear. But like someone said "it was everywhere then it was gone". It may be a hard web-site to make.

TankDonovan

dr*audio
07-07-2006, 07:57 AM
I had tried Ortofon, Acutex, Azden, various Shures and Audio Technicas with this MCS table and never could get distortion free sound.

I hated this table and replaced it with a Yamaha tt 300 which sounded drastically better if you can believe that. I could actually hear tape hiss on vinyl with the Yammy that I never heard with the MCS.[/QUOTE]


Did you align the cartridge geometry with an alignment tool?

shstrang
07-07-2006, 10:07 AM
Did you align the cartridge geometry with an alignment tool?

Absolutely. I even tried a different headshell. It came with a flimsy plastic one so bought an aluminum Acutex shell. No different.

That table had a lot of trouble with "pinching" distortion. Maybe the tonearm had something wrong with it.

As far as appartent build quality, the MCS was far better made than the Yamaha.

jacksonalan
07-22-2006, 06:05 PM
ok all you MCS fans...got a 3125 that I am selling....no blemishes a 10.0 easy...if anyone knows of someone wanting one of these please tell them...don't want to part with it but oh the foolish things we do to keep peace...also have some pioneer and concept....this is really a beautiful machine and perfect....any texas people in or around dallas can see it in person....my cell 214-755-1839...alan jackson

Joey1127
09-22-2006, 05:05 PM
shstrang,

That's funny... I saw this MCS 6500 you got for sale at OAKTREE ENTERPRISES website. It was about $350.00 or so as it was fully serviced out! I had this very deck (in the late 70's) and had GREAT results with SHURE and ORTO carts. Has the better Hitachi arm than later MCS decks.

You have to remember that these are all very, very OLD record decks. To get the performance today that they offord to those of us that were alive in the late 70's, they would have to be fully restored with new tonearm cable, interconnects, and on and on. I passed on this one because all OAKTREE had done was polish it and replace the stylus. WHOOPY!

Joey1127

gfreed
05-10-2010, 06:46 PM
Hi folks!

I have a MCS 3265 Digital Synthesized Receiver. I've been trying to find schematics on the power supply and power distribution. Specifically the +|- 5 volt power distribution. I have a cold solder joint somewhere and i need a schematics to help me find the problem. Sams doesn't have a schematic on my receiver! "shock and horror!!!." I have a great of trouble believing that Sams doesn't have photo-facts on a MCS 3265 and they do have photo-facts on my old 1942 Scott Labs 800 phantom radio.

So anyone out there have schematics on a MCS 3265 receiver? If you do can you email me?

thanks

Rome
05-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Hi & welcome to AK, gfreed!

I would post a separate thread in the General Audio forum about your query. Since this one is quite old it may get passed by.

Just a suggestion,
Rome

BTW: I have a 3275 receiver that is very nice.

xupernaut
05-11-2010, 02:40 AM
A few weeks ago I picked up a 3872 integrated off of freecycle. I wasn't even gonna take it at first as free to this guy meant $10. Very 80's looking built in 5 band eq,slider controls funky light up display for all the functions. But I noticed the power meters went up to 150 wpc and it had massive heat sinks pretty heavy too for its size.

I'm very impressed with this thing puts out 110 wpc and sounds great. I'm using it hooked up to my computer. not the prettiest thing to look kind of sleeper imo. As a bonus it also came with a Mcs 3050 digital tuner and a Sony cdp 505 changer.

Ghoulardi
05-12-2010, 09:53 PM
I use the MCS 6500 TT in my current set up with a Stanton 727E cartridge(if I remember the model number correctly)and I really like it. Sounds great and has been problem free.

cgutz
05-13-2010, 11:23 AM
Absolutely. I even tried a different headshell. It came with a flimsy plastic one so bought an aluminum Acutex shell. No different.

That table had a lot of trouble with "pinching" distortion. Maybe the tonearm had something wrong with it.

As far as appartent build quality, the MCS was far better made than the Yamaha.

Interesting reference - "pinching" distortion. Can you elaborate? Thanks.

jabbo5150
05-13-2010, 11:49 AM
I just got an MCS 3230 for 415 at a thrift store. The light for the FM mute is burned out and it needs a cleaning, but it seems to work well otherwise. Nice little receiver. Had the manual. Didn't say who made it, so I don't know what it is a rebadged version of, if any

george62
05-29-2011, 05:56 PM
I have an MCS 6600(Hitachi HT350)direct drive turntable that was having erratic speed changes.I took the bottom of the base and used de-oxit on the speed control and strobe contacts.It seemed to do the trick.There's a lubrication cap on the motor, on removing the cap there is a spring loaded ball bearing that allows it to be lubricated .My question is what kind of lube and how much?Thans guys I'm a newbie on this site so be gentle!

HTHMAN
05-29-2011, 11:05 PM
You will probably get better responses if you post in the turntable section of this forum. Also try Vinylengine.com for turntable advice and manuals.

mrkmpn
03-17-2014, 09:24 PM
I picked up a complete Mcs system last summer at a yard sale for 20 dollars,the system consisted of a 3684 integrated amplifier,65 watts per channel, 3701 tuner ,6601 direct drive turntable and 8245 three way speaker system.
Also came with the owners manuals for all components including the speakers.Its realy not that bad of equipment.


Dude... Do you have the manual for the 6601? I have been looking all over for it. If so, do you have the knowledge/ability to scan it to a pdf?

**Or maybe take high resolution pics of it?**

Hifirob2
03-17-2014, 09:44 PM
What info. are you looking for? I have the specs for the 6601 if you need them.

holyman772
03-17-2014, 09:49 PM
Grabbing the Technics sl-2000 manual will get you 90% of what u need. the 6601/2 added auto return.

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/technics/sl-2000.shtml